Thanks for your great video, that's just what I needed. I couldn't find the google drive file that you are talking about. Where can I find it? I need some videos like this to practice.
Thank you for the very helpful video.. But I have a question, how to keep the tempo align to the beat mapping, when i have to change previous tempo? I've tried it and everytime I change the previous tempo, the alignment is also change, so I have to re align it manually.. And the tempo is really messed up.. Thank you in advance..
Thanks for the great video. there isn't much content on RUclips relating to beat mapping with movies.. awesome work.. thanks again for the useful information... shout outs from Australia! :D
I want to learn how to add sounds from Logic Pro to my audio from a movie and reattach it back to the movie. (Example, adding drums to a film where the drummer wasn't there) I have Filmore, iMovie and Pinnacle 25. Thx
Sorry I didn't see this comment sooner. Not sure I fully understand the problem and don't have any experience with 2 of those three apps! I'm afraid I'm no help. What I would do if I needed to add a drummer to a movie would be create a click track using some of the beat mapping tips here and have them play along with the click track in headphones
QUESTION: I'm trying to adjust my beat map for a certain section. The midi events are all changing when I adjust the tempo. They aren't SMTPE locked so I don't know how to fix it. I'm using a Marker that is SMPTE locked and dragging the beat map bar over to change the tempo to match the marker, then all the midi events in that section are shifting over instead of staying on the beat. Any ideas?
I didn't know you were the composer for The TMNT 2007 Teaser Trailer, but I'm not surprised that the music wasn't from Klaus Badelt, trailers always have Original Music that's somewhat similar or at other times drastically different to the final product. Great insight.
Hi! Thanks for the video, it was really helpful! I have a question though. In my case, I don't want the tempo to change between markers. (The tempo change in your example in between the three sections was apparently your artistic choice) but when you do beat mapping, Logic kind of enforces you to adjust the tempo according to that. How can I line up the markers with beats and bars and NOT change the tempo of the music that I will be writing? Thanks!
Sounds like you don't need beat mapping, as it's the tempo adjustment that moves the measures to hit the markers. Do you just want to create markers that align to measures? If you want markers on a particular part of a film to align with beats in Logic, either the music will have to change tempo (slow or speed up) or the video will have to be time remapped (which would have to happen in a different app). Something has to give in order for them to line up!
Great video! How do you handle recording count in? If you start the recording at the new tempo, Logic counts in at the previous section's tempo. If you move the new tempo to a few bars before the marker, the marker becomes improperly aligned. Does this makes sense? Just wondering how you workaround this...
Ah, sorry I didn't see this sooner....honestly, I haven't run into that but totally can imagine the problem. I might find myself recording the new section a measure late OR, setting the count-in a couple bars longer and practicing the feel of the switch to the new tempo
Thank you so much! It helps me a lot. I have one question about it. If the original video file has a 44 sample rate, should I change this to 48 at first? Or just work on that sample rate and change it when I export?
Hey Man! I realize this videos a bit old, but at around 9:30 you beatmapped without it changing the tempo of the whole project by adding a node just before it. However, when i do this it deletes my node and proceeds to change the whole project to one tempo. Am i doing something wrong? Thanks!
Oh man, I wish I had the answer to that! It seems like something happened to the Beat Mapping feature between 10.3 and 10.4 -- here's someone with a similar problem: logic-users-group.com/threads/10-4-1-beat-mapping-not-behaving-as-expected.10673/ For the record, I submitted feedback from the "Logic Pro X> Provide Logic Pro Feedback" menu. I do know that real human people read those! :-)
I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
Great video, I'm surprised it doesn't have more views! I haven't checked your channel yet but I'm about to. I think the Logic Pro community would appreciate more videos like this from you. Personally, I would love to see more tutorials regarding film scoring in Logic Pro. Most the ones on RUclips are sort of confusing or more about composition so more technical/ editing--type stuff like this would be great. Well spoken and organized, all around great job!
Thank you much. I will say a warning that we've discovered (see Isaac's comment below) is that the beat mapping seems to be....broken....in the current version of Logic! It definitely doesn't work the way it did in this video.
iMovie is a video editing program (as you know) and Logic is not. You might consider an upgrade from iMovie to Final Cut Pro if you're looking for advanced features that you can't seem to find in iMovie. You could do all of your editing in FCP & all Logic audio plugins are included in that. I actually think FCP is a brilliant podcast editing program -- audio or video podcasts. FCP does the job like a champ and the magnetic timeline makes cutting a podcast a breeze.
Great video Shawn! I have a question.... can I see the video window with the actual video quality (size) in another monitor? To project the trailer for the musicians to play seeing the video in a big screen?!
Yes, for sure. A secondary display works almost splendidly -- however, the logic video playback window doesn't project full-screen very well. You can resize the video for full screen, but it still has this kind of distracting border around it like it's a Logic window (which I guess it is!). Also, higher quality videos tend to playback a little less smoothly, potentially.
is there anything else you could teach us in terms of film scoring in logic? I really enjoyed this video and have been using beat mapping more and more now. Thank you!
I have a few more videos for my students on my channel, but sometimes there is some context missing. This masterclass is the king of all Logic Pro X masterclasses when it comes to film scoring, check it out: ruclips.net/video/_1XkBHT_6Nk/видео.html
This video has really taken on a life of its own. It was a video for my class and the Google drive folder is just shared within our school network -- however, I can tell you how I put together the files for the students to use for their projects. It's a little hit or miss, but can be fun to search through trailers to find ones that are mixed in 5.1 and the center channel is dialogue only. As I said, it can be a little hit or miss, but it's kind of like a scavenger hunt. Here's how I explained it to the students in a later year (ruclips.net/video/e2bWNupLZlo/видео.html)
I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon those who follow the guidance. When I cut and delete part of the audio clip, the part associated with it is not deleted, but the audio is deleted and the video remains as it is. What is the solution? Thank you
Logic is an audio editing application, not a video editing application. It's designed to mix and write music and sound after the video is already cut and doesn't have the ability to modify the video in any way. Pop over to iMovie or Final Cut Pro and revise the video, then open the new movie in Logic! :-)
Hello! First of all, many thanks for this video and your way to teach which I found really understable. I would like to know if You does a complete film score course! It would be really interesting!! thanks a lot!
Thanks. I have a few more videos on my channel that I've made for my students over the years, but they're not well organized. Perhaps I'll do that some day. You may enjoy this masterclass. I know I did: ruclips.net/video/_1XkBHT_6Nk/видео.html
@@STADigitalMedia Many thanks! I've a question and I'm trying to find an answer and I didn't found. How can I know which is the tempo of the film? I mean: always in Logic the tempo is 120 when you open it. How can I know in which tempo is the video? Cause I'm traying to put music in a short film and I'm getting crazy! I used the marks and it's ok, but I've the sensation that video goes faster or lower, is it possible? How can I know that is 4/4 and not 2/4? I just calculate it by heart counting. I discovered that the main tempo isn't 120 but it was just a feeling, there is some kind of method to count it really perfect? Many thanks again!!!
I am trying do the same as shown in your video. But I failed. I followed all the steps as you showed. But when I am clicking and holding the mouse and trying to make the beat mapping work, it does not work the way you showed in the video. Please advise....
Beat mapping is BROKEN in the current version of logic it seems. :-( See this comment: In version 10.4 of Logic, the beat mapping behavior affects ALL the markers, unfortunately. This video is not the way it behaves in current versions. I submitted and was working on a help ticket with Apple before the release of 10.5. Perhaps 10.5 fixed the very destructive way that beat mapping removes all previous and following tempos. What's the point of that!? I believe it's a bug. Like I said, I haven't updated to 10.5 so I'm hopeful it behaves normally (as shown in this video) now.
@@CrazyGuavaMusic I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
I'm about to start 2 big projects and i don't want to do the upgrade as i've heard 10.5 has some glitches of its own. i'm on 10.4.8 so if you solved it on that version please share. much appreciated. :-)
It's possible the newest version of Logic has made some changes. It's not at all intuitive, you really have to click and drag blindly because nothing seems to happen in the interface until you finish dragging into the bottom to line up with the beat.
...also make sure you have a marker and that the marker is selected. That's what you're dragging from the beat lane to the beat of the marker. Also Logic definitely did change with the recent update and it overwrites tempos when you beat map. No Good!
I like your teaching style, you have a calm demeanor that brings down my tech anxiety :)
ha! Thanks, hopefully it doesn't put you to sleep
This is exactly what I needed! Super precise and helpful.
The first tutorial that shows it as it should be presented. Thank you Sir.
Perfect video i was looking for...awsome
Put out more videos related to this please...
Thanks for your great video, that's just what I needed. I couldn't find the google drive file that you are talking about. Where can I find it? I need some videos like this to practice.
Thank you for the very helpful video.. But I have a question, how to keep the tempo align to the beat mapping, when i have to change previous tempo? I've tried it and everytime I change the previous tempo, the alignment is also change, so I have to re align it manually.. And the tempo is really messed up.. Thank you in advance..
When I change the beat map all my midi items go off grid. What's up with that? I'm using a marker that is smtpe locked but the regions aren't locked.
This first page you have open here..Where you clicked on project. How do I open this page?
wouaouuuuuw, I'm working with logic pro since so long now and did not know all this, thank you sooooomuch!
This does not work for me. I have tried this over and over, and watched this over and over, and I do not know what I am doing wrong.
THANKS A LOT FOR THIS VIDEO SIR 🙏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for the great video. there isn't much content on RUclips relating to beat mapping with movies..
awesome work.. thanks again for the useful information...
shout outs from Australia!
:D
Glad you liked it! This beat mapping video has been popular. It's not super intuitive -- I should refresh this video too haha
I want to learn how to add sounds from Logic Pro to my audio from a movie and reattach it back to the movie. (Example, adding drums to a film where the drummer wasn't there) I have Filmore, iMovie and Pinnacle 25. Thx
Sorry I didn't see this comment sooner. Not sure I fully understand the problem and don't have any experience with 2 of those three apps! I'm afraid I'm no help. What I would do if I needed to add a drummer to a movie would be create a click track using some of the beat mapping tips here and have them play along with the click track in headphones
QUESTION: I'm trying to adjust my beat map for a certain section. The midi events are all changing when I adjust the tempo. They aren't SMTPE locked so I don't know how to fix it. I'm using a Marker that is SMPTE locked and dragging the beat map bar over to change the tempo to match the marker, then all the midi events in that section are shifting over instead of staying on the beat. Any ideas?
same thing happen to me.. hopefully there's some answer..
great tutorial and thanks
Thank you so so much for your quick video about very helpful tip in film music scoring!!
You're welcome. A lot of people have found this beat mapping advice helpful. I'm glad it works in the current version of Logic!
I didn't know you were the composer for The TMNT 2007 Teaser Trailer, but I'm not surprised that the music wasn't from Klaus Badelt, trailers always have Original Music that's somewhat similar or at other times drastically different to the final product. Great insight.
Thanks this is really nice for a beginner like me who needs to make music for small film makers.
Hi! Thanks for the video, it was really helpful! I have a question though. In my case, I don't want the tempo to change between markers. (The tempo change in your example in between the three sections was apparently your artistic choice) but when you do beat mapping, Logic kind of enforces you to adjust the tempo according to that. How can I line up the markers with beats and bars and NOT change the tempo of the music that I will be writing? Thanks!
Sounds like you don't need beat mapping, as it's the tempo adjustment that moves the measures to hit the markers. Do you just want to create markers that align to measures? If you want markers on a particular part of a film to align with beats in Logic, either the music will have to change tempo (slow or speed up) or the video will have to be time remapped (which would have to happen in a different app). Something has to give in order for them to line up!
Great video
Nice video! I didn't know that possibility of the marker following the red little dot in order to sync right on the spot!!! Thank you!!!
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the video.
Great video! How do you handle recording count in? If you start the recording at the new tempo, Logic counts in at the previous section's tempo. If you move the new tempo to a few bars before the marker, the marker becomes improperly aligned. Does this makes sense? Just wondering how you workaround this...
Ah, sorry I didn't see this sooner....honestly, I haven't run into that but totally can imagine the problem. I might find myself recording the new section a measure late OR, setting the count-in a couple bars longer and practicing the feel of the switch to the new tempo
@@STADigitalMedia THANK YOU!
Very helpful 👍
A very clear tutorial, thank you!
Thank you so much! It helps me a lot. I have one question about it.
If the original video file has a 44 sample rate, should I change this to 48 at first? Or just work on that sample rate and change it when I export?
I’m big time! 😄
Great video!
Exelente and crystal clear tutoring, and still relevant!
Hey Man! I realize this videos a bit old, but at around 9:30 you beatmapped without it changing the tempo of the whole project by adding a node just before it. However, when i do this it deletes my node and proceeds to change the whole project to one tempo. Am i doing something wrong? Thanks!
Oh man, I wish I had the answer to that! It seems like something happened to the Beat Mapping feature between 10.3 and 10.4 -- here's someone with a similar problem: logic-users-group.com/threads/10-4-1-beat-mapping-not-behaving-as-expected.10673/
For the record, I submitted feedback from the "Logic Pro X> Provide Logic Pro Feedback" menu. I do know that real human people read those! :-)
I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
Thank you Shawn :)
Super useful info! Is that google drive link with the sample trailers still up?
Very useful, thank you!
Great video, I'm surprised it doesn't have more views! I haven't checked your channel yet but I'm about to. I think the Logic Pro community would appreciate more videos like this from you. Personally, I would love to see more tutorials regarding film scoring in Logic Pro. Most the ones on RUclips are sort of confusing or more about composition so more technical/ editing--type stuff like this would be great. Well spoken and organized, all around great job!
Thank you much. I will say a warning that we've discovered (see Isaac's comment below) is that the beat mapping seems to be....broken....in the current version of Logic! It definitely doesn't work the way it did in this video.
why can't you slice movies like in iMovie? i need this for podcast video editing without having to switch program
iMovie is a video editing program (as you know) and Logic is not. You might consider an upgrade from iMovie to Final Cut Pro if you're looking for advanced features that you can't seem to find in iMovie. You could do all of your editing in FCP & all Logic audio plugins are included in that. I actually think FCP is a brilliant podcast editing program -- audio or video podcasts. FCP does the job like a champ and the magnetic timeline makes cutting a podcast a breeze.
super helpful and concise, thank you!
Thanks for the great vid!
Great video Shawn! I have a question.... can I see the video window with the actual video quality (size) in another monitor? To project the trailer for the musicians to play seeing the video in a big screen?!
Yes, for sure. A secondary display works almost splendidly -- however, the logic video playback window doesn't project full-screen very well. You can resize the video for full screen, but it still has this kind of distracting border around it like it's a Logic window (which I guess it is!). Also, higher quality videos tend to playback a little less smoothly, potentially.
Thank you so much, good sir!
is there anything else you could teach us in terms of film scoring in logic? I really enjoyed this video and have been using beat mapping more and more now. Thank you!
I have a few more videos for my students on my channel, but sometimes there is some context missing. This masterclass is the king of all Logic Pro X masterclasses when it comes to film scoring, check it out: ruclips.net/video/_1XkBHT_6Nk/видео.html
Hi, sorry where can i see the Google Drive folder for the trailers? Thanks :)
This video has really taken on a life of its own. It was a video for my class and the Google drive folder is just shared within our school network -- however, I can tell you how I put together the files for the students to use for their projects. It's a little hit or miss, but can be fun to search through trailers to find ones that are mixed in 5.1 and the center channel is dialogue only. As I said, it can be a little hit or miss, but it's kind of like a scavenger hunt. Here's how I explained it to the students in a later year (ruclips.net/video/e2bWNupLZlo/видео.html)
This is the video I'm looking for! Thank you! Although the beatmapping in logic is not working very smooth as cubase or some other DAWs
I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
Super cool.
In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon those who follow the guidance. When I cut and delete part of the audio clip, the part associated with it is not deleted, but the audio is deleted and the video remains as it is. What is the solution? Thank you
Logic is an audio editing application, not a video editing application. It's designed to mix and write music and sound after the video is already cut and doesn't have the ability to modify the video in any way. Pop over to iMovie or Final Cut Pro and revise the video, then open the new movie in Logic! :-)
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Hello! First of all, many thanks for this video and your way to teach which I found really understable. I would like to know if You does a complete film score course! It would be really interesting!! thanks a lot!
Thanks. I have a few more videos on my channel that I've made for my students over the years, but they're not well organized. Perhaps I'll do that some day. You may enjoy this masterclass. I know I did: ruclips.net/video/_1XkBHT_6Nk/видео.html
@@STADigitalMedia Many thanks! I've a question and I'm trying to find an answer and I didn't found. How can I know which is the tempo of the film? I mean: always in Logic the tempo is 120 when you open it. How can I know in which tempo is the video? Cause I'm traying to put music in a short film and I'm getting crazy! I used the marks and it's ok, but I've the sensation that video goes faster or lower, is it possible? How can I know that is 4/4 and not 2/4? I just calculate it by heart counting. I discovered that the main tempo isn't 120 but it was just a feeling, there is some kind of method to count it really perfect? Many thanks again!!!
so great
I am trying do the same as shown in your video. But I failed. I followed all the steps as you showed. But when I am clicking and holding the mouse and trying to make the beat mapping work, it does not work the way you showed in the video. Please advise....
Beat mapping is BROKEN in the current version of logic it seems. :-( See this comment: In version 10.4 of Logic, the beat mapping behavior affects ALL the markers, unfortunately. This video is not the way it behaves in current versions. I submitted and was working on a help ticket with Apple before the release of 10.5. Perhaps 10.5 fixed the very destructive way that beat mapping removes all previous and following tempos. What's the point of that!? I believe it's a bug. Like I said, I haven't updated to 10.5 so I'm hopeful it behaves normally (as shown in this video) now.
@@ShawnHarrel my profound gratitude. I solved the problem. Your lesson was really effective. Thanks
@@CrazyGuavaMusic I'm happy to report that beat mapping seems to be working in logic 10.5.1 just as it did in this video. The previous version had beat mapping working differently (not working, frankly!)
@@CrazyGuavaMusic how did you solve it without going to 10.5?
I'm about to start 2 big projects and i don't want to do the upgrade as i've heard 10.5 has some glitches of its own. i'm on 10.4.8 so if you solved it on that version please share. much appreciated. :-)
Im not getting that little pointer 6:55
It's possible the newest version of Logic has made some changes. It's not at all intuitive, you really have to click and drag blindly because nothing seems to happen in the interface until you finish dragging into the bottom to line up with the beat.
...also make sure you have a marker and that the marker is selected. That's what you're dragging from the beat lane to the beat of the marker. Also Logic definitely did change with the recent update and it overwrites tempos when you beat map. No Good!
@shawn Harrel Problem got fixed when i restarted Logic. But thanks for the reply 😊
Also do more videos in Logic please
If I do it for the second marker even after adding the tempo spot as u had mentioned the previous marker tempo still changes.