I only spent two days at Standard, which isn’t enough to fully grasp all the task-based games and constraints they use in every starting position, but it opened up my eyes to several things I’m doing wrong: - I don’t spar with resistance enough (hands down this was the most eye-opening, especially since I already train almost everyday… they are extremely efficient with their class time) - I’m too satisfied with accepting bottom position and need to wrestle up more - I have a huge skills gap when it comes to “in-between” positions that have no name in traditional BJJ - I get tunnel vision when I spar using the “enter the system” approach or try chaining techniques together, which stunts my ability to problem solve in the moment - I need to re-define what my objective should be in every starting position - I was getting too fixated on Coach Greg’s academic explanation of the ecological approach, and the best way to learn it was to visit and experience it first hand. It’s the easiest way to learn BJJ I’ve ever tried.
How long do you believe you would need to be there to get a decent grasp with limited time on the system? I'm thinking of going on my vacation and it's a week long.
@@online5702 I mean it’s never ending, just like learning jiu jitsu the traditional way, but if you’re smart you can start to understand how learning with the ecological approach works after just a couple days. Coming up with a curriculum and teaching the approach I’m sure takes a really long time to grasp. Greg is very graceful with visitors, and he was open to explain why he chose certain games after class.
I became a mechanical engineer after my time in the Navy and being filipino as well I relate to the Deandre so much on creating that balance of having the funds to support the thing you love whatever hobby it may be. Love seeing this much footage of him talking about his journey
Speaking of the training environment, last month when I visited Standard, those mats were the slipperiest mats I’ve ever trained on once they got sweaty. Idk if that’s intentional or a coincidence, but it made it extra hard to wrestle up. Wrestling up seemed easier when I got back home on our mats that don’t have that glossy finish.
Small criticism. It makes sense to affirm the speaker in a conversation "mmm", "right", "mmhmm", "sure". But in a recorded interview it gets pretty annoying to me. Counting them in a one minute interval there were 9 such verbal affirmations while Deandre was monologueing. That's an average of one verbal disruption to the listener every 7 seconds.
Wow! This approach and system is great! So from this video and others I've watched about it what I've come to understand is that your breaking down a technique in stages and training or semi sparring these stages to learn how to achieve the technique rather than drilling the whole technique in one go
Really liked the way Deandre distilled the types of games and some of the benefits, e.g. continuous games for capacity. Deandre talks about not having a lot of conscious thought during training around 2h:10m. I have first hand experience of the quieting of the mind that comes from this type of training. I used to have so much chatter going on in my brain when I trained and after a short stint training at Standard, it just disappeared. Plus my Jiujitsu improved by leaps and bounds. Standard is like a crucible time-machine. Thanks for this interview to both Bren and Deandre. It felt like I got to listen in on a personal and beautiful heart to heart between two friends.
54:20 - He is 100% right about the prevalence of garbage instructionals. BJJ Fanatics is a great platform but they've also flooded the market with a lot of gimmick marketing for moves and positions mainly targeted at hobbyist white and blue belts who have a new love for BJJ. No, you don't need to spend $79 on the new "Kill The Squid Guard" instructional by a featherweight black belt champion from two years ago to take your game to the next level, especially when you don't even know how to escape side control.
56:04 some honset feedback. I'm having to struggle through this. So much rambling. Saying the same thing over and over. "Got friends with instructionals..." "Add value..." And it has happened a few other times already. Feel free to say "you don't like it leave." But I feel like this highlights an opportunity as an interviewer and for him in giving an interview. Tighten it up and it'll keep more attention. I'm making the effort to slog through for some nuggets and to give you the algorithm benefit but it needed to be said.
Hearing D talk and break things down is awesome and some of the questions asked by Bren were good but man… having “right” “mhmm” “yeah” “sure” said every 5 words Deandre said was incredibly distracting. I don’t consume a lot of videos produced by Bren so I don’t know if he does interviews like this often but if this is one of the first times doing something like this I would consider studying other personalities that do longer form interviews to get a good grasp on how to keep the flow of a conversation going without having to say “right” “mhmm” “yeah” “sure” every few seconds. Hope ya don’t take offense as that was not my intention, just trying to provide some constructive criticism.
Thanks for the feedback guys, Yeah this is the second interview i've ever done in this format, so still very new. Any particular people that you feel are the best at this?
@@BrenTeachesMovement Kim Hill is probably the best interviewer I've heard, journalism stuff. Sonny Brown does an MMA podcast with solid interviews too.
I would love this approached to be distilled down into a presentation or lecture so we can create our own practices. Please explain to me the game types simply, like if you wanna develop your "capability" play a terminal game where there's an end goal (win condition). capability = win condition. and to develop capacity = continuous game etc. what's capability?? what's capacity? what's the difference ? I mean no disrespect at all here, I just want to understand how to create these games to incorporate it. I desperately want to incorporate this style of training but unsure how. i wish there was a rubric or something.
This sounds like a case where 1:1 support might be quite helpful for you. Always hope for “success” if you’re willing to work for it, but what does that even mean?
Read Rob Grays books on the constraints led approach. Really easy reads that can help you understand it. He also has a great podcast explaining it as well. Rob Gray is probably the best resource to this.
My next video should explain this in more than enough depth :). Still, the most basic answer I could give you right now would be that you're assuming we learn the techniques when we see them taught to us, not when we attempt to solve the problem that creates the need for 'techniques' in the first place. This isn't completely wrong, but it isn't far. The research generally shows that we learn much faster with tasks than with expert prescriptive instruction and feedback.
Fair critique but rudely delivered. It's easy to look sharp when you've got nothing to show. At least he tried. How about you interview someone notable and show us how it's done. If you can't then relax and keep watching this awesome interviewer's channel.
I only spent two days at Standard, which isn’t enough to fully grasp all the task-based games and constraints they use in every starting position, but it opened up my eyes to several things I’m doing wrong:
- I don’t spar with resistance enough (hands down this was the most eye-opening, especially since I already train almost everyday… they are extremely efficient with their class time)
- I’m too satisfied with accepting bottom position and need to wrestle up more
- I have a huge skills gap when it comes to “in-between” positions that have no name in traditional BJJ
- I get tunnel vision when I spar using the “enter the system” approach or try chaining techniques together, which stunts my ability to problem solve in the moment
- I need to re-define what my objective should be in every starting position
- I was getting too fixated on Coach Greg’s academic explanation of the ecological approach, and the best way to learn it was to visit and experience it first hand. It’s the easiest way to learn BJJ I’ve ever tried.
How long do you believe you would need to be there to get a decent grasp with limited time on the system? I'm thinking of going on my vacation and it's a week long.
@@online5702 I mean it’s never ending, just like learning jiu jitsu the traditional way, but if you’re smart you can start to understand how learning with the ecological approach works after just a couple days. Coming up with a curriculum and teaching the approach I’m sure takes a really long time to grasp. Greg is very graceful with visitors, and he was open to explain why he chose certain games after class.
1:30:43 for rear triangle game design. Great video. Thank you.
I became a mechanical engineer after my time in the Navy and being filipino as well I relate to the Deandre so much on creating that balance of having the funds to support the thing you love whatever hobby it may be.
Love seeing this much footage of him talking about his journey
Speaking of the training environment, last month when I visited Standard, those mats were the slipperiest mats I’ve ever trained on once they got sweaty. Idk if that’s intentional or a coincidence, but it made it extra hard to wrestle up. Wrestling up seemed easier when I got back home on our mats that don’t have that glossy finish.
Commenting on the reupload as well in case it helps you somehow in the algorithm. Interview is amazing! Thanks again!
It does! Thank you :).
What happened with the Original?
Brown noser
Saw the shory on IG. Just so you know its driving at least me here. Looking forward to all of this.
awesome, thanks!
1:22:50 What do they mean by the "task and variance are important'?
Task invariants*
Small criticism. It makes sense to affirm the speaker in a conversation "mmm", "right", "mmhmm", "sure". But in a recorded interview it gets pretty annoying to me. Counting them in a one minute interval there were 9 such verbal affirmations while Deandre was monologueing. That's an average of one verbal disruption to the listener every 7 seconds.
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Absolutely, it's so annoying I doubt I can make it past the initial 30 minutes of this video.
haha same, i made it 12 mins in and i had to click off. too annoying
Wow! This approach and system is great! So from this video and others I've watched about it what I've come to understand is that your breaking down a technique in stages and training or semi sparring these stages to learn how to achieve the technique rather than drilling the whole technique in one go
I saw you in the back of Deandre's Trials matches, this video is great hope more is coming in the future
awesome! Yeah seems like the feedback is good on this one, thank you :).
What an epic interview with Deandre! The guy is super thoughtful, and his story is amazing. Would love to see a post ADCC interview for sure.
Awesome :).
Really liked the way Deandre distilled the types of games and some of the benefits, e.g. continuous games for capacity.
Deandre talks about not having a lot of conscious thought during training around 2h:10m. I have first hand experience of the quieting of the mind that comes from this type of training. I used to have so much chatter going on in my brain when I trained and after a short stint training at Standard, it just disappeared.
Plus my Jiujitsu improved by leaps and bounds. Standard is like a crucible time-machine.
Thanks for this interview to both Bren and Deandre. It felt like I got to listen in on a personal and beautiful heart to heart between two friends.
54:20 - He is 100% right about the prevalence of garbage instructionals. BJJ Fanatics is a great platform but they've also flooded the market with a lot of gimmick marketing for moves and positions mainly targeted at hobbyist white and blue belts who have a new love for BJJ. No, you don't need to spend $79 on the new "Kill The Squid Guard" instructional by a featherweight black belt champion from two years ago to take your game to the next level, especially when you don't even know how to escape side control.
super agree.
56:04 some honset feedback. I'm having to struggle through this. So much rambling. Saying the same thing over and over. "Got friends with instructionals..." "Add value..." And it has happened a few other times already.
Feel free to say "you don't like it leave." But I feel like this highlights an opportunity as an interviewer and for him in giving an interview. Tighten it up and it'll keep more attention.
I'm making the effort to slog through for some nuggets and to give you the algorithm benefit but it needed to be said.
awesome stuff, any chance for timestamps?
only if a kind viewer would like to add them!
Hearing D talk and break things down is awesome and some of the questions asked by Bren were good but man… having “right” “mhmm” “yeah” “sure” said every 5 words Deandre said was incredibly distracting. I don’t consume a lot of videos produced by Bren so I don’t know if he does interviews like this often but if this is one of the first times doing something like this I would consider studying other personalities that do longer form interviews to get a good grasp on how to keep the flow of a conversation going without having to say “right” “mhmm” “yeah” “sure” every few seconds. Hope ya don’t take offense as that was not my intention, just trying to provide some constructive criticism.
Sometimes its just best to let the person talk
Thanks for the feedback guys, Yeah this is the second interview i've ever done in this format, so still very new. Any particular people that you feel are the best at this?
I didn't even notice...
@@BrenTeachesMovement Kim Hill is probably the best interviewer I've heard, journalism stuff. Sonny Brown does an MMA podcast with solid interviews too.
Excellent, thanks. I’ll look into his style. Any particular things I should pay attention to that make them better than others?
Great listen, any reason why you decided to release in one big video as opposed to segments?
can you cite all the studies you read? would love to read them
If you'd actually like to make a 200+ hour time commitment (If you're a coach I'd highly recommend it) message me.
Amazing.. thanks for putting this out
My pleasure!
Would anyone familiar with Jeet Kune Do say that this principle is like the grappling version?
Phenomenal work - way above my pay-scale in terms of conditioning but rock on!
Timestamps would be great
If only a kind viewer would add them! I have that enabled and I’m working hard on the next video ;)
Can we get the list of books please brother and the papers too!
Yes sir!
Count me in for a follow up after ADCC!
First! Awesome interview!
Thanks!
I would love this approached to be distilled down into a presentation or lecture so we can create our own practices.
Please explain to me the game types simply, like if you wanna develop your "capability" play a terminal game where there's an end goal (win condition). capability = win condition. and to develop capacity = continuous game etc. what's capability?? what's capacity? what's the difference ? I mean no disrespect at all here, I just want to understand how to create these games to incorporate it. I desperately want to incorporate this style of training but unsure how. i wish there was a rubric or something.
You’re in luck bud, the next video that I’ve been putting so much work into for the last 9 months is exactly that and so much more
This sounds like a case where 1:1 support might be quite helpful for you. Always hope for “success” if you’re willing to work for it, but what does that even mean?
Reach out if you’re interested
@@BrenTeachesMovement thats awesome to hear! Greatly appreciate your work! Just out of curiosity how far away is the video?😃
Read Rob Grays books on the constraints led approach. Really easy reads that can help you understand it. He also has a great podcast explaining it as well. Rob Gray is probably the best resource to this.
I am so excited for your project to come to fruition.
Tell me about it XD
Thanks for sharing this! Great stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is great, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Thank you for speaking to the samurai
Thank you for watching!
Wow such great insights in this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Sick interview dude
Great interview
Thank you :)
Exciting !!
Awesome ❤
Great!!
Thank you!
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Shaved head looks good bro, congrats for joining the baldie gang
Awww yeah
“Eco Bros” 🤣🤣
honestly those that say that Corbe brothers are twins are just kinda racist. They don't look THAT much alike lol
Sure...😢
35.45
Why not skip the guess work and learn techniques before you play the game?
My next video should explain this in more than enough depth :). Still, the most basic answer I could give you right now would be that you're assuming we learn the techniques when we see them taught to us, not when we attempt to solve the problem that creates the need for 'techniques' in the first place. This isn't completely wrong, but it isn't far. The research generally shows that we learn much faster with tasks than with expert prescriptive instruction and feedback.
@@BrenTeachesMovementThis explanation makes so much sense.
@@BrenTeachesMovementHow about if it’s a kid that’s 10yrs old and a complete beginner? How should you approach learning techniques for them?
noooooooo Bren u hair (>)(
ahahaha. I feel ya, but I'm more aerodynamic now :)
Right...sure... right... sure... right...sure... right...sure.
This interviewer is awesome.
I hear ya. I'm still very new to this format, I'll work on it.
Keep it up, brother. Don’t mind the haters.
Fair critique but rudely delivered. It's easy to look sharp when you've got nothing to show. At least he tried. How about you interview someone notable and show us how it's done. If you can't then relax and keep watching this awesome interviewer's channel.
@@NOCDIB If you can't take constructive criticism, you're a Beta male. Do yourself a favor and remove your weak mind from the martial arts community.