Using a 1 to 58 gear ratio - what will happen?
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08:50 Worlds slowest burnout
- Guiness Book of World Records
That's the kind of gear you need when you're in a traffic jam.
I'd love to see a diesel car run on a gear ratio that let's it cruise at 80kmph without having to press the acc pedal.
That would be more of a Transmission thing. Like semi's with 16 gears..
@@soulwarrior7721 Yea, either a taller gear ratio or a taller final drive ratio.
Most diesels I've driven can do about 50-60kmph without throttle input in their tallest gear.
Making the ratio a bit more taller should let it move at 80kmph without throttle, making it very fuel economical.
Thats easy just adjust the idle fueling, boom zoom done.
Iv always said cars should have a motorway gear, 70mph @ 1000rpm ish
You would lose almost all torque
I used to work at a place that had an old 1-ton dump truck. 4-speed manual with 4-wheel drive. The boss told me to go clear out the bigger rocks from the lot across the road and to take the 1-ton. At first I'd just spot some rocks and stop to gather them up them move on. Then I decided to just put it in 4-low and into first which was basically a "granny gear" even without the reduction of the low range. I set the truck in motion, then just got out and walked beside it and tossed the rocks in as it went. It was a tiny bit faster than this at idle but not by much. Made the task easy though. I did about 5 or 6 passes North to South then South to North across the lot, moving about 50 feet Westward each time I turned around. Within about 2 hours, I was done. I got back to the shop and the bos asked me. "Who'd you get to drive the truck while you picked up the stones?" I said "The truck drove itself. I just put 'er in the Granny-low and walked along with it" He liked that. "That's using the ol' noodle! Most of these young guys I get in here would have kept stopping and getting out and riding to the next spot. Those guys are just young, dumb and full of c*m, but not a lot of brains."
cool story bro
I did similarly in the late 2000s in my 50's Ford M151 US Army jeep. It only had 2.3L I4 with 71HP (53kW) and 128ft/lbs (174 N-m). In 1st gear, 4-Lo, with just a slight bit of choke, it easily climbed 30° hill, through the weeds and undergrowth. Which was even with the original, narrow non-directional tires (the classic style) that had poor traction. Was a scrappy lil' bugger!! 😊
_[Fun Fact: the non-directional tires were used because then if the enemy came across your tracks, they couldn't tell if you were coming or going.]_
The sheer amount of engineering and machining these guys put into almost every video is just plain astounding y'all are definitely on another level and we love your channel please keep safe and continue to entertain us weird car enthusiast y'all are killing it and are a one of a kind car channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
You need to reverse it so we can go 2,000 miles per hour
Only in Russia do you smash a car with a spanner to tell them to shut it off 😂
4:26
That was actually impressive.. interested in seeing that attached to a truck or something with tank treads to see just how much weight it could pull
Same amount that tool allows x2 I think.
Well, in WW2 era there were light tanks and armored half-tracks with similar engine power . You could easily drive 5 tones if you are ok with 20-30 km/h .
itd pull like a train
@@jackhentschel5961 until it didn't 😆
This is how I feel my wife drives when I'm in the passenger seat.
😎
I wish mine drove like this. When I let her drive, I get car sick, as she is constantly taping the gas peddle.
This is very much like the jeep a buddy uses for rock crawling. It has a 144:1 "granny gear" and at idle it can tow his F150 with no issue. It doesn't tow it quickly but it is just brutally strong torque.
What engine does the Jeep have, if I may ask?
@@digitalchaos1980 Pretty sure it is a stroked 4.0L inline 6. Haven't seen him in 4 or 5 years but I'm 99% sure that's what he had in it last. I know he wanted to do a cummins 6BT swap but hadn't the last time I saw him.
ive got a 90 d250 with the np435 it has a 6.62:1 first gear and can idle loads and idle uphill but it does even better in reverse at 8.21:1.
I havent met the mountain it cant pull.
@@Enjoymentboy Hell yeah, those engines are torquey as hell! I have a 4.0 in my 2003 Jeep WJ, and although the chassis is heavier than other models with that engine, it still pulls pretty respectively! They have a few issues in the last years, but they're pretty bulletproof engines otherwise. I would love to do the stroke kit to mine some day soon. I even have an Eaton M90 supercharger from a Buick 3.8 that I've been throwing ideas around about in my head lol. 😎
@@cowthedestroyer Oh yeah, for sure! My buddy Mike had one of those like yours with the 6.9L International diesel engine and it was basically a road legal tractor! Lol it was a HELL of a puller! 😁
1955: "we'll have flying cars in the future"
2022: "how about a self driving Lada?"
😂😂😂
@@bokiNYC XD
I think this is actually a 58:1 gear reduction (engine to transmission) rather than 1:58 (engine to transmission) [My prediction was for the engine to stall under strain] but after seeing the meat grinder I updated my prediction to just driving really slowly
Hilariously the resolved that they could push it faster than its own top speed
@@turps0 also hysterical, how much it wobbled and how far it got.
Why would it stall under strain? It literally has 58x the torque
Everyone talking about the car, but whoever is doing the edits are doing really really good, I actually liked the small face came, and the ending edit where it went to looking up to the sky when they put the car into the garage to a smooth transition to the last scene was really really good and well done.
The editing is excellent and so is the voice over. This is by far the best channel I've come across!
After WW2 in Greece we use to fit a second gearbox on german zundapp ks750 and on bsa wdm20 to help them via reducing to climp steep hills with heavy loads...also drivers use to get of and walk when the bike goes on so slowly😅 thanks for the memories you recall to me❤
How about installing two transmissions inline. The front transmission is left alone, but the rear trans is installed first same orientation as the front transmission for selectable gear reduction. Then install trans backwards, with the input going in the tail shaft, for the ultimate overdrive transmission. To save space, you could cut off the bell housing from the rear transmission. Cheers! 🍻
Instead of crawling at low speeds, you're supposed to try pulling heavy trailer or car and see it not stall...
Try to make a Lada engine run backwards
Can you see if you can build a CVT transmission in a size to suit a lada, which is manually controlled for the ratio selection? Would be interesting to see the accelerator planted, but speed and acceleration determined by how fast the gear lever is slid forward! Maybe you could build a Nu Vinci bicycle style CVT in a size to suit a car- fascinating how they work.
ooooo i like this idea!
You should have put that after the gearbox so you would still have a gear selection
And even more reduction in low gears... 🤣
With some proper tyres, this could go up a radical hill (even with just RWD). The combination of slow and strong is great for that purpose.
When you walk next to it while it's just idling along it looks like you're walking a pet haha.
Another great episode guys. Fun stuff!
I love u guys y’all make my day as a mechanic…..
With that thing in and small tractor tyres on the back, it might just about go anywhere (the four-wheel drive type fitted to tractors😄 You are half way there already 🚜
Imagine the torque that thing has now
I mean he basically built a single input transmission with a high gear ratio. one speed.... and that speed is yes.
hysterical and well done, but two transmissions linked in line might be cheap fun.
single clutch with shift linkages connected so both work the same reductions..
highest gear speed would be near same but I'd expect a huge jump from 3rd to 4th,
1st 2nd 3rd would probably have the power of a forklift.
Смотрю ваши видео уже более 2-х лет. Все они превосходны и очень информативны.
Держите видео! Они классные.
Извините, если перевод плохой. Это сделал гугл переводчик, а не ИМТ русский, лол.
Would be interesting to see a transmission input into a transmission
you would just get a long transmission. they make those. for 12 speed.
I think you would end up with a bunch of gear ratios though. And if I'm thinking about it right technically you would end up having like five reverse gears
Before the days of 9, 13 and 18 speeds they used two transmissions. You had two separate shift levers but 1 clutch pedal, only for the first trans.
I think it was what usually like a five and a four. I knew about it whenever I made the comment. Just would have been interesting to see these guys take a crack at it.
That's the best looking Lada I've seen- utes are not only functional but cool too. Maybe you should've fitted that nutbuster behind the gearbox to keep the reverse option- and as a bonus in any gear lower than top, it would be slower!
So in Russian the colloquial term is "meatgrinder"?
Interesting because in Croatian the colloquial term is "Russian wrench" (Cro: "Ruski ključ).
Something that would be a great addition to this build would be to replace the engine with a beefy hobby grade RC motor. see if a RC motor could power a lada. that would be pretty cool
The torque must be massive with that set up. If it had better tires, it would probably pull lot of weight.
Would be interesting to see how much weight it can pull
Put the meat grinder between the engine and the clutch so you can have reverse and freewheel. Then, turn the meat grinder around so you get a land speed record car.
You wouldn't get a record, a one to fifty eight gear ratio would have all the top end that the engine is capable of without torque. A fifty to one ratio, which they are using, has a huge amount of torque and no real speed.
Next experiment is gearbox mounted on the other direction output as input and input as output
speed: yes; gear: has one; direction: forward.
the issues were caused by the fact there is no disconnect. you can try to reverse cycle the engine, but that is a lot of resistance. which is why the breaks fight the engine. you cannot rev the engine because at 1:58 a 2000rpm change is all of .5 mph.
btw I am surprised the impact wrench didn't just melt/shred itself.
🤣🤣😂 when he said how am I going to back up there's no reverse gear I f****** lost it LOL that's funny s***
This would be good for slow moving traffic
I'm sure someone has already said this? But here goes: Leaving the original manual gear box in the vehicle and put either a reduction or a over drive gear box after the gear box kind of like a transfer case with high and low ratios but more of an extreme ratio difference? To have a choice of multiple over drives especially when the world's fuel is extremely expensive these days we need all the extra help we can get with getting our money's worth out of our fuels! I wish my Honda civic had an extra overdrive now! @ 40+ mpg now it definitely has more than enough power left in overdrive to have another one! Why they didn't make it a bigger ratio difference or added an additional gear? IDK? But they're more than capable of getting well above 45 mpg or better if it was properly equipped with a better transmission or ratios for this matter!
do it in reverse for 100th gear ratio lol should be able to do 80 at idle lolol
save mega gas
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Another one! Always coming up with great ideas guys....
7:35 - Ghost Ridin the Whip!
The "burn out" made me laugh. 🤣🤣
Should have fitted it after the gearbox
You could have left the transmission in place and put the gear reduction on the front of the axle. Granted all you would do is effectively lower the gear ratio even farther unless the transmission has overdrive.
I took a 4 cylinder ford ranger 5 speed transmission internals and swapped them into the 6 cylinder 5 speed housing. 1st, low range was about the same as this mod.
rly? which tranny? toyo kogyo or mitsubishi?
@@omegarugal9283 I didn't know there was 2 manufacturers. I didn't take note, but mitsubishi doesn't rinf a bell. It was a 95 ranger splash 4x4 with the step side bed, 4.0l. The original transmission had a shaft bearing fail, the splash lube tray had broken, I think the bearing went dry afterwards but not 100% sure.
It was surprisingly easy, most parts were the same, I really don't think you can mess up if you take each part off and place it onto a wire on your work service so you can't mix up the order of parts.
Lasted forever, well over 200k additional miles before I sold it.
I measured nothing and had no special tools, but I might have had to modify a wrench or something.. Swapped the parts in a day on the kitchen table.
@@Dat_Sun then it was a m5od, the m5od r1 came with the 4 cylinder, it had a 3.7 something first gear, the m5od r2 came with the 4.0 v6 and and had a 3.36 first, the 1-2 gear clusters interchange
and that's effectively a low range crawling gearbox. i estimate you're probably getting close to 1100-1200ft/lbs of torque to the wheels at idle. and assuming both the chassis and the "meat grinder" gearbox can take the load, which I highly doubt, you have close to a 5 tonne pulling strength. so basically if you went and made a offroad crawler out of this, that's enough reduction with the right tires to go just about anywhere. forward. at a walking pace.
It's the General Slow-Lee!
You should swap a gear box for a bike gear system i.e. cassette and derailleur
Awd Rock crawler lada with these impacts. And hectic suspension for Max flex and big grippy tyres be awesome
Do 2 of them now, using a heavier axle and dual tires. See how much it can pull.
It's like the hour hand of a clock. Slow but inevitable.
What if you put a second powerful motor in the truck bed and didn't have it hooked up to a drive train, but had it turbocharged and the intake inlet was plugged into the other smaller motor
Or connect that second motor directly to the impeller shaft.
I didn't watch the whole video but I want to see this with the 5 flywheel engine
now i wanna see a tug of war with that lada and a forklift truck
Wall at 11:50 - Smoking strictly forbidden. Smoke gently! Borsch top.
Those guys are going to be on over time by the time you get back to the shop
I laughed at how You can just exit the vehicle while it's moving and just walk along next to it. XD
I have a request from you. Modify the cylinder head studs. When the engine is running, pressing a button disables the cylinder head studs and throws the cylinder head up to how many meters into the air? I am most curious about this.
imagine the torque
I'm on my daughter's RUclips.
Person 1: It seems a little slow today.
Person 2: Today??!! 😂
"No mom I was not doing drugs, I was welding a meat grinder to a transmission."
Mom: "you're grounded"
Put plow behind 😂
Hello you know the roads you driving on it's not that good right so i got an idea it's kinda good.
So the plan it's make a hydraulic driver seat and so you can make it level and stay still when you. Driving in like a pothole???
Finally a gear ratio to match Vin Diesels gear changes
I feel like that thing would have a 2 stroke week wacker motor and still have the power to pull 5 cars.
Actually, how many cars would it be able to pull? Ooo that would be an interesting test.
...Meat Grinder?....🤣....this is one for the ages....👍
You should make an offroad Lada with big tyres an have the meat grinder as a selectable lowgear
the mechanics have a good job just building random shit all day loll
How about flipping it around??? So instead of reduction we get mad increase in wheel speed. Plus leave the gear box intact just add this thing after it.
I know I'm a year late to this, but if you pare this with a transmission, i bet it would make the ultimate rock crawler with an Awd mod and a lift kit.
how does this gear ratio compare to that lada that you had doing wheelies?
That thing can pull a sidewalk out of the ground!
A bush fix I seen in Africa when they ran out of gear oil was jamming bananas into the gear box to get you down the road, try that out.
I want to see a video of this car with the same gear reduction to be pulled by other car without clutch and at the speed of 30 maybe 50 to engage the clutch to see what the engine will doing 🤔
That thing is cool! Where do I get one here in the USA?
I would love to see the reaction driving around Novosibirsk at the speed
where can i get one of those meat grinders? i actually want one for its intended use lol
multiplying torque? then search torque multiplier instead of meat grinder.
Final drive ratio on most trucks that pull something 12-14 to 1 in low gear, his final drive ratio with 3 to 1 axle over 150 to 1. Blow it up for us.
This was very amusing to watch
You should have hooked that behind the transmission in my opinion
4:20 only one wheel is spinning up on the lift so that's 2x the rate when it's on the ground.
I imagine the most common thing heard in this shop is “you want to build what”?
Now put some 2 meter tall tires on it. LOL!
Tug of war between a stock lada and a lada with a lower gear ratio
When you said it's driving it's self makes me think you need to make a remote controlled car!
not possible with manual trans
Great work fellas !
You guys should have put that in behind the transmission
this guy does some crazy stuff. I love it.
This is incredibly cool and smart
Was the Torque Multiplier wrench glowing bright red after that drive?
my prediction was you would over heat the "meat grinder" unit and it'd fail, 58-1 reduction that little gearbox would be spinning its butt off even at a low engine idle!
This was a fun video it was awesome to watch. Thanks for sharing.
I want an old Lada!
When you're in eastern Europe, you can probably get one for free.
Modern cars make enough power to weight ratio for an airplane ... Just an idea I think it would be epic
A whole lot of nowhere fast, G 54 builds a self driving car with no technology, eat that Elon.
A+++ for the home made pickup test vehicle!!!
it seems like you wouldn’t need much power with this gearing, you could probably hook up a small electric motor and get similar performance, with the addition of reverse! Haha
Fuel consumption measured in Litres per 100 centimetres... :P
Try recirculating exhaust gases back into the carburetor