Right he messed up his own legacy first he played apart in it. He wasn’t thinking about the future only today. He mental wasn’t there, but I feel Cuban is heading to that same head space Pun is in if he focus on what’s important to him. Liza on the other hand is another cause that God has to punish for showing the world that documentary.
@@91Definite I feel you but that is her pain nobody could tell her how to Channel she probably had when he passed. She is the one that got hit in the head with a gun.
The problem with that clip is…..that wasn’t the fans business. Liza is his wife, but she wasn’t a hiphop artist & wasn’t connected to the artist side. Their personal trauma wasn’t needed in that documentary. People were pun fans not Liza fans. Fans didn’t need to hear “her” story. The clip would’ve never been seen if it wasn’t submitted. Can’t down play that. People are not mocking her pain, but that part had nothing to do with him as a music artist. You expect fan support and continued support of his products, but also expect them to excuse something that “they” may have lived thru themselves. Trauma doesn’t work that way. People don’t like abusers and he was shown to be one in that clip. If he lost sync licensing deals or anything catalogue related deals because of what they saw….and people now don’t rock with his music because of that one clip…that is ruining a legacy. That’s not a “narrative”. That was the last thing people saw of Pun in a visual aspect. Have you not seen the comments from former fans because of that ? They call him all types of names. It’s awful.
That’s facts, it was too early for that. I don’t think she had the foresight or the grind to keep pushing the doors that Pun opened financially. If she made good decisions with his legacy, kind of like how PAC’s mom did, and she was always representing right and making dope shit for the fans. She woulda earned that love and respect that would have opened the doors for her to tell her own story in a book or something like that, and there she coulda talked about it. If she wanted to or needed to. I get it, relationships are super complicated. I feel she shoulda focused on building puns posthumous legacy outside of music. Books, documentaries, posters, pop up museum shops, hats, merchandise and keeping connections in the industry that could help promote her business. She didn’t do any of that. If she just focused on preserving and pushing pun legacy from the beginning she wouldn’t have needed to have a salon or fight with the greedy record business.
She did ruin it. Idk what she was thinking but she messed her own money up. To this day I see comments from people telling pun to rest in hell, he was a piece of shhh, etc. The world did not need to know what was going on in their marriage. And the fact that him being dead when this came out makes it worse because he can’t tell his side of the story. For those that don’t know, Liza was no saint herself & & was also physically abusive to Pun. If she never brought it up it woulda never been in the documentary. She submitted the tapes. That’s family business period. It’s her fault.
and it also hurts friendships as well, joe despises liza after what she did and wants nothing to do with her ruclips.net/video/Adz8TbYmd9c/видео.htmlsi=Em_HVuQ-hIUSxvIA
She cheated on Pun a few times, and that was enough to make any man raise his hand to a woman. Pun could’ve left her alone after she cheated on him. But it was also rumors that Pun did as well, but that I’m not too sure of. Cause in the documentary everyone said he was crazy over heels for Liza so idk if that’s true or not. Cuban been around so he seen shit he shouldn’t have seen that traumatized him that Pun probably done. Only person that probably wasn’t around during family altercations was Fat Joe. Cause if Joe was there Joe probably would’ve left Pun alone or give him an ultimatum to stop abusing his wife or he won’t take him to top
What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong..I loved big pun especially putting the boriquas on the map..but I was raised with violence in my parents growing up...
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You can't deny Cuban Link being front & center in everything he's talking about. Never knew about what Panda Chop said about the Big Pun Documentary.
He tried to
@@dennisrodriguez3670 Tried what?
Pun messed up his own legacy
Right he messed up his own legacy first he played apart in it. He wasn’t thinking about the future only today. He mental wasn’t there, but I feel Cuban is heading to that same head space Pun is in if he focus on what’s important to him. Liza on the other hand is another cause that God has to punish for showing the world that documentary.
@@91Definite I feel you but that is her pain nobody could tell her how to Channel she probably had when he passed. She is the one that got hit in the head with a gun.
@@91Definite and she probably felt this was her get back for hitting her to help with the gun cuz she never hit him back
@@91Definite and ruined a friendship between joe and liza and that's why joe and liza refused to speak to each other.
It's more to it. Addressing the extreme weight gain that cost him his life. What were the roots of that?
The problem with that clip is…..that wasn’t the fans business. Liza is his wife, but she wasn’t a hiphop artist & wasn’t connected to the artist side. Their personal trauma wasn’t needed in that documentary. People were pun fans not Liza fans. Fans didn’t need to hear “her” story. The clip would’ve never been seen if it wasn’t submitted. Can’t down play that. People are not mocking her pain, but that part had nothing to do with him as a music artist. You expect fan support and continued support of his products, but also expect them to excuse something that “they” may have lived thru themselves. Trauma doesn’t work that way. People don’t like abusers and he was shown to be one in that clip. If he lost sync licensing deals or anything catalogue related deals because of what they saw….and people now don’t rock with his music because of that one clip…that is ruining a legacy. That’s not a “narrative”. That was the last thing people saw of Pun in a visual aspect. Have you not seen the comments from former fans because of that ? They call him all types of names. It’s awful.
Right! Liza should’ve thought of her husbands fans but back then she ain’t give a fuck hell she was no older than 27 or 28 at the time.
That’s facts, it was too early for that. I don’t think she had the foresight or the grind to keep pushing the doors that Pun opened financially.
If she made good decisions with his legacy, kind of like how PAC’s mom did, and she was always representing right and making dope shit for the fans. She woulda earned that love and respect that would have opened the doors for her to tell her own story in a book or something like that, and there she coulda talked about it. If she wanted to or needed to.
I get it, relationships are super complicated. I feel she shoulda focused on building puns posthumous legacy outside of music. Books, documentaries, posters, pop up museum shops, hats, merchandise and keeping connections in the industry that could help promote her business. She didn’t do any of that. If she just focused on preserving and pushing pun legacy from the beginning she wouldn’t have needed to have a salon or fight with the greedy record business.
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She did ruin it. Idk what she was thinking but she messed her own money up. To this day I see comments from people telling pun to rest in hell, he was a piece of shhh, etc. The world did not need to know what was going on in their marriage. And the fact that him being dead when this came out makes it worse because he can’t tell his side of the story. For those that don’t know, Liza was no saint herself & & was also physically abusive to Pun. If she never brought it up it woulda never been in the documentary. She submitted the tapes. That’s family business period. It’s her fault.
and it also hurts friendships as well, joe despises liza after what she did and wants nothing to do with her ruclips.net/video/Adz8TbYmd9c/видео.htmlsi=Em_HVuQ-hIUSxvIA
She cheated on Pun a few times, and that was enough to make any man raise his hand to a woman. Pun could’ve left her alone after she cheated on him. But it was also rumors that Pun did as well, but that I’m not too sure of. Cause in the documentary everyone said he was crazy over heels for Liza so idk if that’s true or not. Cuban been around so he seen shit he shouldn’t have seen that traumatized him that Pun probably done. Only person that probably wasn’t around during family altercations was Fat Joe. Cause if Joe was there Joe probably would’ve left Pun alone or give him an ultimatum to stop abusing his wife or he won’t take him to top
What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong..I loved big pun especially putting the boriquas on the map..but I was raised with violence in my parents growing up...
Yo panda wth I haven't seen your videos in so long for some reason you wasn't popping up on my feed smh
Man if FBA sees this, the FBA would erase big pun from him.
Why?
Much love to Cuban
She did, purely because she's a bum.
Pun didn't look after his money and neither did liza. That's why she's broke.
She kinda did cause now they wanna throw that shit in pun’s fans face that’s the excuse they use to not celebrate him
Right! That documentary sold a lot too and even had a commercial for it as well
and that's why joe hates that woman after this and hasn't help pun's family since the 2000's, because of the negative side.
Damn.
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