I really enjoyed this conversation with Eric. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 2:08 - World War II and the Coronavirus Pandemic 14:03 - New leaders 31:18 - Hope for our time 34:23 - WHO 44:19 - Geometric unity 1:38:55 - We need to get off this planet 1:40:47 - Elon Musk 1:46:58 - Take Back MIT 2:15:31 - The time at Harvard 2:37:01 - The Portal 2:42:58 - Legacy
Never seen the timestamps show up on the video before, a new feature, something you did with the API or you are just the first one who cared enough to enable it? Great conversation so far btw =)
Lex - big big fan, I teach bjj [2nd degree black belt under Giva santana] and find your content extremely interesting and useful. Thank you for doing this work. It would be fantastic to have you, Weinstein, and Danaher in conversation :]
This was one of the saddest programs I ever started to watch. To think that I would be given this treasure right now is terribly sad for me. I have Alzheimers' and I do not have the ability to live this or to learn from it. There are no complaints in my observations. My life has been a dream and I am just now realizing that I do not have the capacity to "live" this message. I am delighted to know that all the young minds have this to absord. Thanks for sharing, I wish I were 50 years younger on this day. Bless you.
Have you considered a Plantbased diet. Remeber reading a story or hearing a rumor on how it an aid against Alzheimers I may be proned to it myself so that fear is always there as much as the fear of death. But where one goes we go all. Good luck everyone
Lex: lemme ask a silly question Eric: well ask it with a straight face Lex: impossible Lex: _proceeds to talk with the face of a Russian czar posing for an oil painting_
I’ve been watching this podcast for a while, The Portal, too. A slight lift of one side of Lex’s mouth is the equivalent of me laughing loudly. Eric is quick to laugh, but it’s often ironic and ultimately sad. He scares me a bit. I don’t think we can know what he’s capable of.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate Eric is clearly not neuro-typical, and that's why he sees so many things, in high resolution, that others don't even know are there.
You are way smarter than Mr. Weinstein. He's a crank, an educated one, he tried to fool everyone with his theories, but now he's been finally put to shame.
I often miss hearing Lex’s prespectives on the subjects. I love when the other person wants to hear something from Lex. Usually people just talk talk and talk and wait for the next question... Such a great podcast with these two minds interacting
@@X9523-z3v As a podcast host, isn't it his job to encourage his guest to speak and to listen without interruption? It just seems like good conversational manner and if the guest (who is also a podcast host) asks for Lex's views it's nice because it creates a duet.
Just like any host, Lex won't get his hands dirty so everyone lets their door open to the next interview. What I don't like is that he puts cranks and actual scientists on the same level of credibility. People like Weinstein are parasites whose only achievement was to become popular by defaming physicists who have actual work to do. People like Weinstein try to get the most out of the failures of actual scientists who invest their lives in what they think could be good for the mankind, just like vultures. But failure is key to success in science.
@@TheSpookiestgoose true and yet hearing his comments on Aaron Schwartz, tragic as that story is, I was glad to hear someone call it with so much passion and conviction. After hearing/seeing that, I can only suspect for people misinterpret Eric's intentions are perhaps resenting not picking up what he was putting down. Educated doesn't mean intelligent and confidence doesn't mean competence.
@@TheSpookiestgoose I do care instead, but I don't like that cranks like Weinstein educate the masses to distrust the whole scientific community, just for personal revenge as he didn't get the academic career he wanted.
2:43:56 - I literally started crying when he said "trying". Thank you so much, Eric. I've been going through such a hard time, and when you said that, having accomplished so much, made me feel like I can also have something to be proud of. And that's something I really needed right now. Thank you, and shalom!
This was fantastic. I've never seen "let's keep it real" Eric. I'm glad Lex held it together and focused on explaining where he was trying to steer the conversation.
The Portal episode with Bret Weinstein *is* hard to listen to at times, but that's a good thing, it's unlike any other interview I've ever heard. Eric *is* a little overbearing but as Lex pointed out, "I just hear brothers." And he had a very specific goal and needed Bret to go along for the ride to get the story out. And Bret handles it really well, he knows what's going on and he allows his brother to drag the facts out of him in the way he deems best. I think it's one of the best interviews I've heard in my life, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen to me long enough for me to tell them about it.
@Daniel Moore What? That is complete BS, maybe you fell asleep when Brett explained the telomere mechanism and how test mice were mutated with extraordinary long telomere, not from nature but from the conditions they were bread. Its fascinating how two people can watch the same episode and yet see, hear and come to completely different conclusions to the point that I think you must either be completely delusional or you didn't see the episode and are for some reason just lying about it. I guess one last unlikely possibility would be if you had a deep knowledge of hidden information that you are not sharing coming from you knowing Brett personally.
There were a couple of moments where I felt Eric was going somewhere. But then he spins out in a cloud of defensive rhetoric, and resentment, then loses me.
Bingo. Because he is obfuscating. He is engaging in limited letdown . Trying to re-harness the power of a grand deception. String theory IS a folly. But Eric isn't trying to undo it. He is trying to re- cast its central intent , and to displace the learned and brave voices wanting to collapse the deception . Why? , you might ask . Because it is necessary to a grand deception. Listen again to the interview from 1h.34min. Great questions raised and avoided. ..And then the launch into the" get off this planet death cult con.
I too never understood why he is elevated to some level above the rest of us. He's bright and I agree with him very much. Not sure why he gets so much cred. But this was a great interview that exposed a higher level of Weinstein (still not genius level though)
1:59:55 "People are cowards at the moment, because if people aren't cowards they are unemployed" , this is not only in the academe institution. This is spread across corporate America as well. This would be a true statement for I would dare say 70% of Americans.
As much as I like the quote I think it's decently false. The only way we're gonna change the beast to avoid catastrophe and achieve a better, faster result is through strong-arming the system from within. Fast revolutions always just leave a vacuum that's filled by opportunists and leaves a mess that often just devolves right back into some assemblance of the same system.
So many companies stifle their most brilliant and forward-thinking employees because of ego. I've seen it happen to co-workers and am now realizing how it may be happening to me as well.
@@LC-yo3bj I'm not completely understanding your angle on this. What you reply with doesn't make the statement false. Also, strong arming the system from within may not be the best. It has not worked. It being very difficult, if not impossible, when the threat of termination/expulsion/discredit/dis-certify/shame is always stagnantly lingering in the air. In the work place is no shortage of willing, seemingly mindless, more than eager, subordinates to those needing to be strong armed, that have partially created, enable and sometime promote these continuing practices on a wide scale. Just to get an occasional pat on the back or extra 10 minutes on lunch. No particular place of work seems to be immune to this although there are some I have read about. Every strong armed waging common sense person I have ever seen go against the "status quo" in places I have seen, get a prompt escort from the workplace. I have been wrong many times as well.
@@Eric_Offroad Yes, I think some of that problem lies within people like you are getting at. Many managers whom should facilitate are many times, adding road blocks sabotaging projects, just to be able to say. Well, Johnny didn't do so good. Johnny is just as good or better than Mr/Mr Manager at his job. But Mr Manager wants to keep Johnny under his thumb so he doesn't look band and can take credit for all of johnny's work. All the while piling on Johnny with as much of MR Managers work as he can get him to do while mr manager sits around and thinks of another way to screw over someone else. Can't have someone under me knowing more than me.
This episode is cutting-edge, all-encompassing commentary of where we are as a species. It's my second time sitting through the entire thing, and I'm still blown away.
Lex is a great interviewer. His slow pace of talking annoyed me before, but now it seems what keeps the conversation flow smooth. It also gives guests time to prepare for a better possible answer.
Am I alone in feeling proud to be part of these conversations? The AI Podcast.. The Portal.. Theyre just different than anything else.. Thank you guys, I for one appreciate your effort.
I'm a grandmother of four and I enjoy everything this man has to say... He has great ideas and good messages to the world.... Really do like this man's thinking ...
I just love watching human beings who are much smarter than I am. I gain insightful gems from reality all of the time whenever they speak. Thank you for having Eric on again Lex!! Keep doing what you're doing!
Yeah this man’s humility is off the charts, but there’s so much wisdom in the nuance of his word selection, explanations, and expressions of concern. It’s incredible to hear him describe his perceptions of life at such a high level using simple analogies for every explanation. Lex is like a dope teacher’s pet, a great student unafraid to challenge the ideas of his sensei without a wink of disrespect, jealousy, or dishonesty. I feel like this man sees things that most of us will never understand, Eric is a true fuckin gangster
Yeah he's a really brilliant mind... Since hearing him speak on a random video and then listening to him and bret. I've almost listened to everything out there I can he puts out
A phenomenally honest fun conversation, I love Eric’s mind and his inherent disagreeableness makes him endearing and endlessly fascinating. And Lex you challenging him on so many levels and he enjoys it clearly and push him to explain certain points he can skip over in a presumption of shared knowledge I thank you for that. And I’m glad you pushed childhood abuse story to because I remember being floored listening to him on the intro of the Bret portal episode, I’ve always had these things with Eric I knew he was a musicians a few years before I heard him say it or actually the video of him playing blues harp in a club , I am a musician as a career and had the feeling he was similar and then this happened again I’d always had a suspicion as it has happened to me as a child funny how you get a feeling about someone even tho I’d never met him I had listened to many hours of him conversing Excellent episode mate
The problem is people don't become rebellious enough if they want to survive in the system. Becoming a leech like the others and getting rid of those that want to take your lifesource away from you. The system gains power from ownership that enables one to survive without merging with the system. This is where it begins and not from nerds throwing pens and erasers at professors.
Its a talent how Eric spills out the beans so subtly and casually. And to hold back the frustration of people not believing your experiences, that’s a man who’s figured out life there.
He hasn't figured anything out. If he did he would submit his work for review and others could test if it's reproducible or not. If they confirm his hypothesis then you can say he figured something out
As a fellow immigrant from Yugoslavia who values education and intellectual discussions highly, thank you for this great podcast! Eric is an awesome guest, and I always enjoy listening to your all’s discussions. All the best.
I find it arresting that Lex, someone who works in such an abstract but detached discipline, has such reverence for heart-driven preoccupations. 'Sending love,' concerned about the 'quiet suffering' of people - he's definitely a thoughtful guy, perhaps just hasn't publicly expressed this kind of sentimentally until he became more comfortable with himself.
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy Different life experiences, perhaps. I get the same feeling but we should respect the sentiment if it's sincere rather than signalling (which I think it is in this case).
I feel Lex is actually a highly empathetic person and he does music and podcasts as an escape from his professional life. He can code, but he desires to let his heart communicate. I respect him for doing what he loves while still doing what he is good at.
This is one of the greatest casts I have listened to. Wow, Fridman brought these amazing ideas and emotions out of Weinstein that Rogan didn't. I love it.
These conversations, although sometimes hard to follow, are so important. I wish everyone could see and then discuss videos like this. Thanks to the both of you.
Something about Eric seems always contradictory or controversial. Every time Lex tries to reiterate on what Eric is saying, Eric says no and has some "poetic" way to explain the opposite. At some point it seems like this leaves Eric with no real point or at maximum just another point blaming every system in discussion for all problems and leaving him with no responsibility. Quite an interesting dance.
Thank you. I have been trying to pin his position down and have been going crazy. I am honestly angry at Eric Weinstein for being deliberately confusing.
@Phillip Schaeffer I've noticed this is the pattern with a specific category of guests both here and on the Joe Rogan podcasts. There seems to be a certain disposition "smart people" can have that keeps them reassuring themselves that no one explains things as well as they can. I remember feeling this way about Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a couple of the Machine Learning OGs that have come through the podcast. In some ways they seem to take advantage of Lex's timid and intentionally innocent phrasing and questioning so they can follow the steps you described.
This gets really good when Eric starts talking about Elon Musk, Aaron Schwartz and MIT. This is why I respect him like a family member despite never meeting him. I feel the same restlessness and dissidence. I know this is the way. Become ungovernable. Do it through brilliance.
I will watch 100% of anything Eric Weinstein is in...I will watch it 3X. Thanks Lex, long time listener of your content and I LOVED your song on the Rogan podcast. Epic. Keep being a bright light when the dark side makes all the money.
We only need 55 million intelligent, concerned people who are willing to do a little work for the goal. One in 6, soon to be 1 in 7 Americans is all we need to overtake the current wool over no ones eyes systems.
2:43:16 Lex: "What do you hope your legacy is?" Eric: "Oh, i hope my legacy is accurate" Best answer ever! ;D So many ways to read that answer, all valid.
@@l.jamesbarlow3137 Mr. Barlow here wants to casually remind you that the media is run by satanist pedophilic canibalistic nazi CIA executives with fetish on mind control
most of the so called leaders we resent originate from these institutions. individuals from these places of higher education are not our guides to a better future. that’s been proven.
a lot of parents are to blame in my eyes. smart kids get bored with school and they might not have parents that push them to do anything other than graduate because they didnt or barely did
Your intuition is correct. However, the first rule of extrainstitutional genius club, is you do not talk about extrainstitutional genius club. (On Wednesdays we wear pink 🤫).
We can hardly tell our children and grandchildren that we love them while handing them a world on fire. True selflessness, is planting trees to provide shade for people that you'll never meet. Its never been all about me singularly and this idea can not be used selectively. 💜
@@redalertwagers If you haven't been shown the principles of discipline before you get to college. Your family, friends and authority figures have all let you down.
30:22 These men seem to be ignoring the fact that they, themselves, are in the midst of forming new institutions. This IS the kernel of what will come.
Good point. Knowledge is power but so is our time and we are giving much of it to channels like this these days. But how long before it gets shut down. Steven Crowder was just demonitized so probably won’t be long.
There is a simple answer in my opinion .... with the level of (Fuck you) money ... people just stop caring about a lot of this stuff ... even if they used to care about in the past ..... and people who don't have (Fuck you) level of money can't understand that .
Lex is a mind reader--he's addressed my hidden concerns regarding, questions for, confusions about, and worries over Eric Weinstein that I've had for the past month or so. As an interviewer (and human being), Lex comes across as entirely trustworthy and relevant.That's my shitty 2 cents.
Your two cents aren't shitty IMO and I agree, Lex is great. Seems like truly a nice guy who knows his physics and cutting edge AI technologies, and he's humble as well, a killer combo... Eric is smart af, as is his brother, however, they can both be somewhat abrasive.at times...maybe that just goes with the territory of the supersmart. I like the Weinsteins tho, I think they speak the truth.
@@onseayu you're right, it was Eric more so on the abrasiveness, not in a bad way, however he does get a bit of a tone sometimes. I'm a big fan of Sam Harris as well, and Hitch? goes without saying (RIP).
Is it just me or it seems like Eric does not want to be understood? He seems to enjoy this title of the crazy smart guy who is so above intellectually that we cannot comprehend his thoughts. I do not buy his shtick because Richard Feynmann (who has ACTUAL contributions in physics) does a way better job in explaining concepts. I agree with Einstein when he says "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough", and since Eric talks in such a convoluted manner about his theory (even in his lecture), it seems to me that Eric's goal is NOT to present his idea.. but to plant this idea in his audience that he is right and the entire academic community is corrupt and wrong. I actually share that sentiment and I agree that academia has its fair share of issues (self citation, institutional bias etc).. But if you do not even upload a manuscript on the internet and expect your audience to believe your claims purely based on your vague explanation of your theory.. I just do not trust him. CHANGE MY MIND
Aditya Dendukuri he has a unique thing going on where he likes to talk about when his thoughts are in superposition. It’s not neat, it’s not tidy, it doesn’t come to a nice conclusion. It’s about paradigm. Like Schrödinger's cat, we will see. I don’t see it as a weakness I see it as honesty. It’s the same situation with geometric unity. It’s a different way of looking at the same stuff and that means something. I’m still chewing geometric unity but it’s going somewhere. The Einstein quote is only applicable for certain types of concepts. For example let’s get Karl Friston to explain his free energy principal in 5 mins. On this same podcast it took 50 minutes and it was a cursory treatment, but do I think he is wrong or doesn’t understand it well? Of course I don’t.
He is resisting not speaking down, he is encouraging speaking up. He is capable of thoughts that are perhaps absurd unless you are willing to allow him to continue trying to vocalise his theory. I don't hink he is narcissistic at all and not trying to be an enigma. He is challenging and the convalutions are his ability to draw upon multiple streams of thought. To me this provides discussions that invite anyone to debate him. Why wouldn't he enjoy being of unique character? And his hair is luxurious, how is it "crazy"? I have a beehive. Just because it looks awesome. Big hair no cares. I don't mind if I don't change yours. But I challenge the initial premise that he "enjoys not being understood". He is going above and beyond to explain what he understands.
Wait what? I just did a googling and looking around on arxiv and ...yea, there appears to be no manuscript at all. I also got the feeling that a lot of other people here did that he was being intentionally vague, not really trying to be understood. Now that I know that he's been talking about this since 2013 and still hasn't even committed anything concrete to paper... That doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence. He alluded early in the interview that he didn't approve of the way he would be criticized by academia. He was vague about that, too, but now I am thinking that he's just afraid that his ideas will be successfully challenged. Also not very inspiring. Or am I missing something here?
I watched some of his lectures. He does appear to have some important equations reformulated in his theory. I think it would be worth for someone that understands this math really well to try to recover simple equations (like F=ma) from Eriks equations just like how one can recover more basic rules in electromagnetism from maxwell's equations. The math is a bit beyond me at the moment but it would be a good roadmap of things to study.
Lex! At 26:20 you say “ I feel I should become a leader on a small scale.” Eric responds “you can’t.” This is totally incorrect. As intelligent as Eric is, he is does make mistakes. This is one mistake. Lex, you absolutely can and should step up. You even have the support of us to further boost your success and lend support
Eric is hesitant because he knows he will be ridiculed. He is critical of everyone but too scared to stand on his own. He is not clear in developing his idea. He is all over the place.
Mathematically, it sounds super elegant and interesting (defining a metric on the space of all metrics is mindblowing) but I have no clue about what physics it could entail.
I’ve listened to this conversation several times and I enjoy it more each time. Thank you both for what you provide to society and your respective fields
Lex, you are such an amazing interviewer. I've watched Eric give explanations of Geometric Unity to multiple interviewers, none of whom have teased such a great one out of him.
I wish Eric was a better teacher. “How does it become my job to digest what has been available for 90 years?” By being a public intellectual with any communication ambitions.
I think that getting the knowledge required to understand him is the task for those who are trying to understand him, provided that the knowledge is freely available. He wants to communicate new ideas, not the ideas that are already out there, which you can learn yourself or with help of somebody actually aiming to help you learn them.
I think what he means is that to understand the ideas he’s trying to convey ud need to at least understand these underlying concepts, he’s not implying he wouldn’t try to explain or teach them to you but he’s only saying that, if ure to understand or even try to convey a reasonable line of thought about a basic theory of reality, u need to understand or at least know the knowledge thats been up in the world for the last 90 years.
@@telecorpse1957 This was Newton's philosophy. When he invented calculus and wrote a book on it, no one could follow the mathematical language or logic, Newton was like, not my job to teach numpties how to math
@@brettjames9088 Do not invent fake history please, when Newton Published his seminal book Principia Mathematica (that introduced newtons laws and ideas on classical mechanics), he hid the fact the he used Calculus (a branch if mathematics that he secretly developed), and instead He gave many of his proofs in a geometric form. This may have caused some problems in following his logic, but it wasn't too hard to follow, since at that time, geometric arguments were dominant in the field of mathematics.
Hey Lex, I just want you to know that I love what you are doing with this podcast. My brother and many of my friends are now avid followers. I don’t think I’ve watched an interview I haven’t liked, and you’re the only channel I now have notifications enabled for! Lots of love and thanks for putting this stuff out there.
I feel like the only one who can see through this Eric?. His conversation style is not actually conversation. He has premade answers and uses pre made chains of conversation to cause the other person to ask certain questions, and inserts unnecessary nomenclature into the answers mixed with feigned emotion and then says what he had pre planned to say all along. There is also the same technique that Deepak Chopra does, the same sophistry technique that made Deepak famous by everyone who was easily impressed with his "intelligence". Truly intelligent people are not impressed here. I don't mean to be mean to Eric, i am sure he is intelligent. But so are many people. I wonder why he in particular requires so much attention and admiration though.
Yeah the percentage of time he actually answers a question is at best 10%. The rest of the time it is some tangent analogy that doesn't make sense or answer the question. But the percentage of time Eric thinks he has blown everyone's mind with Nobel Prize winning insight is 110%. It's so bizarre. To have a theory of everything but to clearly take no interest in explaining it to an interested interviewer. Lex is practically begging for a layman's explanation of his ideas, but he can pry nothing concrete from Eric. Like, dude, do you want to share this "groundbreaking" work with everyone or not?
He has to act like this because he doesn't actually have anything. Same reason he admonishes academic journals, if he attempted to define with specifics what he is talking about people would immediately recognize that it is false.
I think maybe that Eric has his own way of communicating that is simply different from ours. Let's allow him to be who he is. Those he talks to don't seem to mind.
@@alexanderthesk8 who is stopping him from being himself? People just suspect his outrageously lofty claims of a paradigm shifting discovery, arguably greater than that of relativity, is bullshit. Eric acts offended by the skepticism but has produced NOTHING to argue for or against.
@@MrMashyker ChemE Master's and working through doc program with dissertation on functional analysis in relation to Hilbert Space curves specifically regarding laminar flow
This is a great Interview. Like these two should do this alot more. First time seeing this guy Lex. I love him wearing this suit, it's like a 60s 70s feel. When people and interviewers were real. He is perfect interviewing Weinstein. Great questions, never interrupts, let's him talk and 0 ego involved. Should be the New wave of the world these two talking like this on a weekly basis.
ugh I love Eric but he seems desperate to show how cool he is, like he's this smooth cool drinker. Ironic that Eric calls out Lex on presentation when Eric's style of communication can itself be very irritating (nothing wrong with that in the exploration of ideas but still)
Taj Macall oh come on, man. He’s a socially awkward intellectual. Who the fuck cares if sometimes he’s cringey. It’s endearing just as much as it is anything else. He’s a genuine guy, and you can tell the people he’s talking to see that, and are delighted by him. I don’t get the point of this comment, honestly.
Jesus man I literally just finished watching the previous podcast with Eric a few minutes ago. Looks like I'm not getting any more work done this evening! One of my main aims during this lockdown was to explore/simulate hidden variable theories so I love that you are going to discuss geometric unity with him. Thanks for all the great content!
So uh... got a public playlist for them hidden variable theories? I got a channel you'd like perhaps, the videos with the most views are the ones worth watching if I recall correctly, either way, I had fun a few years ago watching a lot of this guys stuff. He ended up being correct on a few predictions regarding CERN, Higgs Boson, quantum mechanics... ruclips.net/user/gavinwince
As a first impression, Eric has a confusing gap between his expressed position and actual position. Lex: "so why dont you lead?" Eric: "throws a mental gymnastics routine"
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 i think he is trying to say weinstein doesnt lead by action but is making a call to action which isnt confusing. weinstein admits he wants one thing but doesnt know the solution (on rogan he says he wants a revolution, when question how, he says i dont know the answer but that a revolution somehow is needed)
Lex missed a golden opportunity to crank start a throbbingly spicy conversation about traps. Could have really sprang that open, I could see the fear in Eric's eyes that he might. They kinda have a Lahey/Randy-BoBandy vibe too.
How can I possibly find my way to having conversations even remotely like this in my life? It seems like everyone I interact with is afraid to talk about the things that really matter. Do you need to have a podcast to do it?
My name is Patrick. What I do is regenerative ranching/ land restoration. I'm sure you won't read this but if u do I absolutely love your channel. It has made me feel like I'm part of something as big as this planet and I can affect it. Rambling. Thanks man
I’d like to hear Eric talk more about the institutional illness in the system. Where are the rebels ? Not the ones burning down the cities , the men and women that will save our society.
@Lex Fridman @Eric Weinstein Agree that this conversation is very critical. @Bret Weinstein is another great mind / voice, and could name a few others that are growing voices of reason. I suspect a new, independent social media platform will arise soon where your voices will be crucial.
People are made of cells. Cells contain DNA. DNA is made up of molecules. Molecules are made up of chemical elements. Chemical elements are atoms. Atoms have a nucleus made up of one or more positively charged Protons, zero or more neutrally charged Neutrons, and zero or more positively charged Electrons (normally the same numbers as there are Protons), so a single Atom of Hydrogen gas is one Electron orbiting one Proton with no Neutrons, meanwhile a single Atom of Gold has 79 Electrons and 79 Protons and 118 Neutrons. Now there was a mystery in physics which was "Why do atoms with multiple positively charged Protons stay glued together when their Protons should repel each other apart?" This led to the assumption that there must be some new force of nature gluing Protons together. Later experiments revealed that Protons were made up of three Quarks held together by gluons. Neutrons were made up of three Quarks held together by gluons too. The gluons were responsible for keeping the atomic nucleus together. The way gluons operate is governed by something called the Strong force. Actually, there are only two types of Quark inside most atoms. There are Up Quarks and Down Quarks. That's it. Very simple. So you have an Electron with an electric charge of -1 Then you have an Up Quark with an electric charge of +2/3 Then you have a Down Quark with an electric charge of -1/3 Therefore, a Neutron is +2/3 + -1/3 + -1/3 = 0 charge and a Proton is simply +2/3 + +2/3 + -1/3 = +1 charge Elegant, isn't it? So all atoms in the Periodic table are made of Up and Down Quarks held together by gluons with Electrons orbiting them. Those atoms then connect into molecules and can form things like DNA which allows life to replicate itself and grow cells to make new people to make and watch podcasts and comment under the video. These quarks are called elementary particles, and they can't be divided into anything more primitive. However, particles can be thought of as waves. However, both models of reality are misleading as they are actually fields that are spread out everywhere and interact with each other, and sometimes those interactions seem wave like, and other times they seem like point particles moving around. Eric Weinstein is saying that there is just a single unified field named omega which interacts with itself in fourteen dimensions to produce relativistic waves, some aspect of which are determined via interaction with the engine of observation that is gravity - i.e. the "curvature" of our readily accessible four dimensional spacetime. _Geometric _*_Unity_* is a speculative work in progress that aspires to be a Unified Field Theory and a potential future candidate for what a Theory of Everything might look like. It is not yet either. It does not describe itself as a Theory in his incomplete draft paper. Lex described it as a Theory of Everything, which is a misrepresentation of where Eric Weinstein has got with it thus far. It may become a candidate for a Theory of Everything at some point in the future, but it might take several years more work. It is hard to say "How long?" with these things as Albert Einstein worked on his Unified Field Theory at Princeton University for the last thirty years of his life and was unable to solve the problem. Eric Weinstein thinks that the problem can be solved by unifying the almost incompatible types of geometry which underlie both _Quantum Field Theory_ and _General Relativity._ Here, _Quantum Field Theory_ is based on the geometry of Charles Ehresmann. _General Relativity_ is based on the geometry of Bernhard Riemann. These geometries can be made to work by the construction of a kind of bridge between both geometries, that Eric Weinstein calls a Chimeric fiber bundle as, like the mythical Chimera that has the head of a lion and tail of a snake, Eric needs to find a way to join the fourteen dimensional Ehresmannian surface where omega lives with the four dimensional Riemannian spacetime where we live. Hence, Geometric Unity. Then you have a single field omega 'pulled back' through this Chimeric fiber bundle so that some aspects of this field manifest as phenomena in our four dimensional Universe, like quarks and electrons (i.e. Fermions) and gluons (i.e. Bosons). I'm leaving out a lot of detail, so you may want to read my longer comments on my video: _Geometric _*_Unity_* explained in under 2 minutes ruclips.net/video/wVlDoR_EMPg/видео.html
Lex, this was probably your most important interview and you nailed it. I really hope Eric can break the stifling model of academics and be able to reach more people in a way that promotes freedom of thought and experimentation. Commoditization of academics, free thought, innovation, and movement forward is extremely dangerous. Hopefully something beautiful will come out of this "breaking of the mold". Looking forward to hearing more from you guys.
I really enjoyed this conversation with Eric. Here's the outline:
0:00 - Introduction
2:08 - World War II and the Coronavirus Pandemic
14:03 - New leaders
31:18 - Hope for our time
34:23 - WHO
44:19 - Geometric unity
1:38:55 - We need to get off this planet
1:40:47 - Elon Musk
1:46:58 - Take Back MIT
2:15:31 - The time at Harvard
2:37:01 - The Portal
2:42:58 - Legacy
The way you have indexed this is awesome! Thanks
Never seen the timestamps show up on the video before, a new feature, something you did with the API or you are just the first one who cared enough to enable it? Great conversation so far btw =)
Lex - big big fan, I teach bjj [2nd degree black belt under Giva santana] and find your content extremely interesting and useful. Thank you for doing this work. It would be fantastic to have you, Weinstein, and Danaher in conversation :]
You're the best Lex, love this format
cheers on all the great time stamps , really great work actually , perfect
This was one of the saddest programs I ever started to watch. To think that I would be given this treasure right now is terribly sad for me. I have Alzheimers' and I do not have the ability to live this or to learn from it. There are no complaints in my observations. My life has been a dream and I am just now realizing that I do not have the capacity to "live" this message. I am delighted to know that all the young minds have this to absord. Thanks for sharing, I wish I were 50 years younger on this day. Bless you.
Jim Pike
And bless you!
Just do what you can man. Even if it’s a little.
Have you considered a Plantbased diet. Remeber reading a story or hearing a rumor on how it an aid against Alzheimers
I may be proned to it myself so that fear is always there as much as the fear of death. But where one goes we go all. Good luck everyone
Cannabis helps Alzheimer's, studies show
I'm really hesitant of even mentioning this, but... you might want to take a look at the Alcor Foundation.
Bless you!
Lex: lemme ask a silly question
Eric: well ask it with a straight face
Lex: impossible
Lex: _proceeds to talk with the face of a Russian czar posing for an oil painting_
I’ve been watching this podcast for a while, The Portal, too. A slight lift of one side of Lex’s mouth is the equivalent of me laughing loudly.
Eric is quick to laugh, but it’s often ironic and ultimately sad. He scares me a bit. I don’t think we can know what he’s capable of.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate Eric hunts and eats corrupt leaders at night.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate Eric is clearly not neuro-typical, and that's why he sees so many things, in high resolution, that others don't even know are there.
Floyd Jaggy 😂🍺
😂my favorite part too
Over an hour in I have never felt less intelligent and yet I can't stop watching. The voices soothe
I listen
Nothing is absorbed
You are more aware than you realize.
You are better than you know.
Nice
Maybe??…because you know you forgot it all and that’s why it seems familiar in an unknowing way?
You are way smarter than Mr. Weinstein. He's a crank, an educated one, he tried to fool everyone with his theories, but now he's been finally put to shame.
I often miss hearing Lex’s prespectives on the subjects. I love when the other person wants to hear something from Lex. Usually people just talk talk and talk and wait for the next question... Such a great podcast with these two minds interacting
@@X9523-z3v That's true. Lex could also lead the plots better and make it less of an interview.
I thought the same thing. Lex said a lot this podcast. I loved hearing him
It's always great when a podcast guest is a podcast host too, it results in a more symmetrical conversation, than usual podcasts/interviews/etc.
@@X9523-z3v As a podcast host, isn't it his job to encourage his guest to speak and to listen without interruption? It just seems like good conversational manner and if the guest (who is also a podcast host) asks for Lex's views it's nice because it creates a duet.
Just like any host, Lex won't get his hands dirty so everyone lets their door open to the next interview. What I don't like is that he puts cranks and actual scientists on the same level of credibility. People like Weinstein are parasites whose only achievement was to become popular by defaming physicists who have actual work to do. People like Weinstein try to get the most out of the failures of actual scientists who invest their lives in what they think could be good for the mankind, just like vultures. But failure is key to success in science.
"It's like watching your parents riding the tricycle they were supposed to pass on to you. " This is gold.
Where is that?
William Britton 16:30
For most of us, including Lex, this was like taking an advanced course without acing the several prerequisites.
Agree
So....just like College. LOL
@@TheSpookiestgoose true and yet hearing his comments on Aaron Schwartz, tragic as that story is, I was glad to hear someone call it with so much passion and conviction. After hearing/seeing that, I can only suspect for people misinterpret Eric's intentions are perhaps resenting not picking up what he was putting down. Educated doesn't mean intelligent and confidence doesn't mean competence.
@@kurtgodel28 that was a long time ago, I couldn’t care less about a unified theory these days lol.
@@TheSpookiestgoose I do care instead, but I don't like that cranks like Weinstein educate the masses to distrust the whole scientific community, just for personal revenge as he didn't get the academic career he wanted.
I appreciate the small edits of the overlayed pictures. it's so good not having to pause and search for it...
2:43:56 - I literally started crying when he said "trying". Thank you so much, Eric. I've been going through such a hard time, and when you said that, having accomplished so much, made me feel like I can also have something to be proud of. And that's something I really needed right now. Thank you, and shalom!
Eric is trying to wind up the suppressed rebel in Lex.. And i aint even mad
Weird...I'm watching Lex trying to put Eric's batteries back in only to have Eric keep shaking them out again.
@@tripp8833 My God, you're right.
People think Eric is a prick sometimes, but I think you nailed it. He chooses to play the 'villian' to rouse people into action.
He’s so right, tho...
@@KravMagoo excellent analogy. This is the first Weinstein interview that I've seen where he went deep into anything.
You ARE becoming a leader on a LARGE scale Lex. Keep going
Lex got mindblown at least 25 times... it's probably that
Just watch Lex's interview with Jeff Besoz. It is a lamentable exercise in limitless PR for a monster.
This was fantastic. I've never seen "let's keep it real" Eric. I'm glad Lex held it together and focused on explaining where he was trying to steer the conversation.
Oh man the minute by minute breakdown is a game changer. Love that
He's had that for quite some time
The Portal episode with Bret Weinstein *is* hard to listen to at times, but that's a good thing, it's unlike any other interview I've ever heard. Eric *is* a little overbearing but as Lex pointed out, "I just hear brothers." And he had a very specific goal and needed Bret to go along for the ride to get the story out. And Bret handles it really well, he knows what's going on and he allows his brother to drag the facts out of him in the way he deems best. I think it's one of the best interviews I've heard in my life, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen to me long enough for me to tell them about it.
*Eric
@@enhancdreality I'm saying the episode of Eric Weinstein's The Portal with guest Bret Weinstein.
www.outofshadows.org/
@@yamishogun6501 I'm guessing you aren't a man who has a brother
@Daniel Moore What? That is complete BS, maybe you fell asleep when Brett explained the telomere mechanism and how test mice were mutated with extraordinary long telomere, not from nature but from the conditions they were bread.
Its fascinating how two people can watch the same episode and yet see, hear and come to completely different conclusions to the point that I think you must either be completely delusional or you didn't see the episode and are for some reason just lying about it. I guess one last unlikely possibility would be if you had a deep knowledge of hidden information that you are not sharing coming from you knowing Brett personally.
There were a couple of moments where I felt Eric was going somewhere. But then he spins out in a cloud of defensive rhetoric, and resentment, then loses me.
Bingo. Because he is obfuscating. He is engaging in limited letdown . Trying to re-harness the power of a grand deception. String theory IS a folly. But Eric isn't trying to undo it. He is trying to re- cast its central intent , and to displace the learned and brave voices wanting to collapse the deception . Why? , you might ask . Because it is necessary to a grand deception. Listen again to the interview from 1h.34min. Great questions raised and avoided. ..And then the launch into the" get off this planet death cult con.
he is way too political, its like deepak chopra, but with politics instead of woowoo.
@@ventura433 xDDDD this is perfect!
Yes, that seems correct to me. He's an interesting guy but seems to have a chip on his shoulder that isn't doing his ideas any favors.
@@crab-dogjones4659 I think the "chip" is his view of how the scientific world has been politicized and corrupted.
Lex, hope this message gets to you. I've never understood this man to this degree. Thank you for coaxing a simple explanation out of him.
I too never understood why he is elevated to some level above the rest of us. He's bright and I agree with him very much. Not sure why he gets so much cred. But this was a great interview that exposed a higher level of Weinstein (still not genius level though)
@@stevefink6000 If you studied mathematics, you would never discount this man's intellect. Hes the cream of the crop.
I mean the man has a PhD in mathematical physics, wtf are you saying b
1:59:55 "People are cowards at the moment, because if people aren't cowards they are unemployed" , this is not only in the academe institution. This is spread across corporate America as well. This would be a true statement for I would dare say 70% of Americans.
As much as I like the quote I think it's decently false. The only way we're gonna change the beast to avoid catastrophe and achieve a better, faster result is through strong-arming the system from within. Fast revolutions always just leave a vacuum that's filled by opportunists and leaves a mess that often just devolves right back into some assemblance of the same system.
So many companies stifle their most brilliant and forward-thinking employees because of ego. I've seen it happen to co-workers and am now realizing how it may be happening to me as well.
@@LC-yo3bj I'm not completely understanding your angle on this. What you reply with doesn't make the statement false. Also, strong arming the system from within may not be the best. It has not worked. It being very difficult, if not impossible, when the threat of termination/expulsion/discredit/dis-certify/shame is always stagnantly lingering in the air. In the work place is no shortage of willing, seemingly mindless, more than eager, subordinates to those needing to be strong armed, that have partially created, enable and sometime promote these continuing practices on a wide scale. Just to get an occasional pat on the back or extra 10 minutes on lunch. No particular place of work seems to be immune to this although there are some I have read about. Every strong armed waging common sense person I have ever seen go against the "status quo" in places I have seen, get a prompt escort from the workplace. I have been wrong many times as well.
@@Eric_Offroad Yes, I think some of that problem lies within people like you are getting at. Many managers whom should facilitate are many times, adding road blocks sabotaging projects, just to be able to say. Well, Johnny didn't do so good. Johnny is just as good or better than Mr/Mr Manager at his job. But Mr Manager wants to keep Johnny under his thumb so he doesn't look band and can take credit for all of johnny's work. All the while piling on Johnny with as much of MR Managers work as he can get him to do while mr manager sits around and thinks of another way to screw over someone else. Can't have someone under me knowing more than me.
This episode is cutting-edge, all-encompassing commentary of where we are as a species. It's my second time sitting through the entire thing, and I'm still blown away.
Lex is a great interviewer. His slow pace of talking annoyed me before, but now it seems what keeps the conversation flow smooth. It also gives guests time to prepare for a better possible answer.
At first he seems to be extremely low energy but he asks all the questions that the average joe would ask.
Am I alone in feeling proud to be part of these conversations? The AI Podcast.. The Portal.. Theyre just different than anything else.. Thank you guys, I for one appreciate your effort.
I'm a grandmother of four and I enjoy everything this man has to say... He has great ideas and good messages to the world.... Really do like this man's thinking ...
The way the timestamps are built into the playback is soooo nice for mobile. Thanks for putting that effort in.
I just love watching human beings who are much smarter than I am. I gain insightful gems from reality all of the time whenever they speak. Thank you for having Eric on again Lex!! Keep doing what you're doing!
The more I've listened and gleaned from Eric's stories, experience and insight, the more I've grown to admire him. He is truly brilliant 💕
Yeah this man’s humility is off the charts, but there’s so much wisdom in the nuance of his word selection, explanations, and expressions of concern. It’s incredible to hear him describe his perceptions of life at such a high level using simple analogies for every explanation. Lex is like a dope teacher’s pet, a great student unafraid to challenge the ideas of his sensei without a wink of disrespect, jealousy, or dishonesty. I feel like this man sees things that most of us will never understand, Eric is a true fuckin gangster
Yeah he's a really brilliant mind... Since hearing him speak on a random video and then listening to him and bret. I've almost listened to everything out there I can he puts out
@@ryanjleetw 💯
Nice!
A phenomenally honest fun conversation, I love Eric’s mind and his inherent disagreeableness makes him endearing and endlessly fascinating.
And Lex you challenging him on so many levels and he enjoys it clearly and push him to explain certain points he can skip over in a presumption of shared knowledge I thank you for that. And I’m glad you pushed childhood abuse story to because I remember being floored listening to him on the intro of the Bret portal episode, I’ve always had these things with Eric I knew he was a musicians a few years before I heard him say it or actually the video of him playing blues harp in a club , I am a musician as a career and had the feeling he was similar and then this happened again I’d always had a suspicion as it has happened to me as a child funny how you get a feeling about someone even tho I’d never met him I had listened to many hours of him conversing
Excellent episode mate
Right on the money re: Aaron Swartz - they did him dirty.
Eric speaking so passionately about this is so fkin amazing.
The problem is people don't become rebellious enough if they want to survive in the system. Becoming a leech like the others and getting rid of those that want to take your lifesource away from you. The system gains power from ownership that enables one to survive without merging with the system. This is where it begins and not from nerds throwing pens and erasers at professors.
Timestamp please?
Tim Gosline 1:49:00
statues and a shark moat, aaaanyway the wind blows...
Its a talent how Eric spills out the beans so subtly and casually.
And to hold back the frustration of people not believing your experiences, that’s a man who’s figured out life there.
He hasn't figured anything out. If he did he would submit his work for review and others could test if it's reproducible or not. If they confirm his hypothesis then you can say he figured something out
Ok
"I'd like my legacy to be accurate." I never comment on youtube, but that was fantastic.
I loved that too ! How clever was that ? ❤️🇨🇦
Eric is starting a network of portal fight clubs and Lex just got assigned MIT. His name was Aaron Swartz...
As a fellow immigrant from Yugoslavia who values education and intellectual discussions highly, thank you for this great podcast! Eric is an awesome guest, and I always enjoy listening to your all’s discussions. All the best.
Y'all is a good contraction I enjoy using. Not to mention you have great English already.
:D
I find it arresting that Lex, someone who works in such an abstract but detached discipline, has such reverence for heart-driven preoccupations. 'Sending love,' concerned about the 'quiet suffering' of people - he's definitely a thoughtful guy, perhaps just hasn't publicly expressed this kind of sentimentally until he became more comfortable with himself.
I wonder what it says about me that I find that kind of talk sappy.
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy you havent a soul.
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy Different life experiences, perhaps. I get the same feeling but we should respect the sentiment if it's sincere rather than signalling (which I think it is in this case).
I feel Lex is actually a highly empathetic person and he does music and podcasts as an escape from his professional life. He can code, but he desires to let his heart communicate. I respect him for doing what he loves while still doing what he is good at.
@Pat McCann Hes Russian?
This is one of the greatest casts I have listened to. Wow, Fridman brought these amazing ideas and emotions out of Weinstein that Rogan didn't. I love it.
I could seriously listen to both of you talk all day, I loved this so much.
These conversations, although sometimes hard to follow, are so important. I wish everyone could see and then discuss videos like this. Thanks to the both of you.
Something about Eric seems always contradictory or controversial. Every time Lex tries to reiterate on what Eric is saying, Eric says no and has some "poetic" way to explain the opposite. At some point it seems like this leaves Eric with no real point or at maximum just another point blaming every system in discussion for all problems and leaving him with no responsibility. Quite an interesting dance.
Thanks, I was looking for someone who had written my comment for me :)
Mr Weinstein would do great as a politician!
Exactly! Quite a contrast with the Stephen Wolfram interview ...
Thank you. I have been trying to pin his position down and have been going crazy. I am honestly angry at Eric Weinstein for being deliberately confusing.
@Phillip Schaeffer I've noticed this is the pattern with a specific category of guests both here and on the Joe Rogan podcasts. There seems to be a certain disposition "smart people" can have that keeps them reassuring themselves that no one explains things as well as they can. I remember feeling this way about Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a couple of the Machine Learning OGs that have come through the podcast.
In some ways they seem to take advantage of Lex's timid and intentionally innocent phrasing and questioning so they can follow the steps you described.
I concur, and I don’t like that kind of people, they say some clever things, they tell some truths, but ultimately they just waste your time
This gets really good when Eric starts talking about Elon Musk, Aaron Schwartz and MIT. This is why I respect him like a family member despite never meeting him. I feel the same restlessness and dissidence. I know this is the way. Become ungovernable. Do it through brilliance.
Second this. The conversation goes to whole another level. Eric's indignation comes through so clearly and precisely!
When they fucked Eric Schwartz over, that's when I realized we were doomed.
I hope you are making fun of Eric Weinstein as opposed to being serious. You do know he is a charlatan, right?
@@StopFear how so?
I will watch 100% of anything Eric Weinstein is in...I will watch it 3X. Thanks Lex, long time listener of your content and I LOVED your song on the Rogan podcast. Epic. Keep being a bright light when the dark side makes all the money.
We only need 55 million intelligent, concerned people who are willing to do a little work for the goal. One in 6, soon to be 1 in 7 Americans is all we need to overtake the current wool over no ones eyes systems.
@@BossInVegas lol you used the most generic, copy-paste insult possible.
Boss in Vegas You having fun there dude?
Eric is 1,000,000% correct in suggesting that our "leaders" should resign.
So grateful to have access to listen to these conversations
2:43:16 Lex: "What do you hope your legacy is?" Eric: "Oh, i hope my legacy is accurate"
Best answer ever! ;D
So many ways to read that answer, all valid.
Interesting indeed but probably doesn't matter that much
www.outofshadows.org/
@@l.jamesbarlow3137 Mr. Barlow here wants to casually remind you that the media is run by satanist pedophilic canibalistic nazi CIA executives with fetish on mind control
@@l.jamesbarlow3137 I've gone down the rabbit hole so you don't have to...
I reject the hypothesis that all the young great minds are inside of MIT, Harvard, and Stanford.
The attendees of said intatution had only the means and the plan.
the most are not
most of the so called leaders we resent originate from these institutions. individuals from these places of higher education are not our guides to a better future. that’s been proven.
a lot of parents are to blame in my eyes. smart kids get bored with school and they might not have parents that push them to do anything other than graduate because they didnt or barely did
Your intuition is correct. However, the first rule of extrainstitutional genius club, is you do not talk about extrainstitutional genius club. (On Wednesdays we wear pink 🤫).
We can hardly tell our children and grandchildren that we love them while handing them a world on fire. True selflessness, is planting trees to provide shade for people that you'll never meet. Its never been all about me singularly and this idea can not be used selectively. 💜
What a beautiful name. Mom was very creative.
@Mike Knight True.
I love this interview, I love the honesty. I feel like Eric and Lex are about to get barred from MIT tho 😭
I’m fairly certain I willed this into existence.
gabe0000 lol
If this was your work, then for your next project let’s get you working on getting George Hotz on The Portal?!
Thank you
Thank you.
Lol
Who needs college when u have this
Damn Right.
College is there for money. Knowledge has always been behind expensive doors.
@@redalertwagers If you haven't been shown the principles of discipline before you get to college.
Your family, friends and authority figures have all let you down.
Yes, I’m sure you are now a qualified theoretical physicist after watching this.
Life is pay-to-win
Why do I love listening to this stuff when I don't have the faintest clue of what's going on
You're listening on many levels, and the subconscious is feasting on this.
So glad I'm not the only one. Something will detach from better brains than mine, and bring me tiny shards of enlightenment... Hopefully
nobbeish A good question. Why?
@@SoumilSahu You know that's not true.
Interestingly enough, I've discovered that I understand simpler things with ease by listening to things I don't. It's a weird transition.
listening to this conversation instead of Netflix streaming tonight and damn if it is not 1000% more entertaining and engaging
30:22 These men seem to be ignoring the fact that they, themselves, are in the midst of forming new institutions. This IS the kernel of what will come.
Potential of unrealized power
Good point. Knowledge is power but so is our time and we are giving much of it to channels like this these days. But how long before it gets shut down. Steven Crowder was just demonitized so probably won’t be long.
“Why did we only get one Elon?!”
-Eric Weinstein
I'm not entirely sure I trust Elon
There is a simple answer in my opinion .... with the level of (Fuck you) money ... people just stop caring about a lot of this stuff ... even if they used to care about in the past ..... and people who don't have (Fuck you) level of money can't understand that .
You - the USA - didn't have one.
So he came from South Africa to inspire y'all.
I love Elon Musk!
Elon has a good and honest soul!
Lex is a mind reader--he's addressed my hidden concerns regarding, questions for, confusions about, and worries over Eric Weinstein that I've had for the past month or so. As an interviewer (and human being), Lex comes across as entirely trustworthy and relevant.That's my shitty 2 cents.
JRE was a better one
@@onseayu Rogan makes up for it with his extensive knowledge of psychedelics, especially DMT.
Your two cents aren't shitty IMO and I agree, Lex is great. Seems like truly a nice guy who knows his physics and cutting edge AI technologies, and he's humble as well, a killer combo... Eric is smart af, as is his brother, however, they can both be somewhat abrasive.at times...maybe that just goes with the territory of the supersmart. I like the Weinsteins tho, I think they speak the truth.
@@onseayu you're right, it was Eric more so on the abrasiveness, not in a bad way, however he does get a bit of a tone sometimes. I'm a big fan of Sam Harris as well, and Hitch? goes without saying (RIP).
When I read "shitty 2 cents" I can't tell if that's humility or self-deprecation.
Is it just me or it seems like Eric does not want to be understood? He seems to enjoy this title of the crazy smart guy who is so above intellectually that we cannot comprehend his thoughts. I do not buy his shtick because Richard Feynmann (who has ACTUAL contributions in physics) does a way better job in explaining concepts. I agree with Einstein when he says "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough", and since Eric talks in such a convoluted manner about his theory (even in his lecture), it seems to me that Eric's goal is NOT to present his idea.. but to plant this idea in his audience that he is right and the entire academic community is corrupt and wrong.
I actually share that sentiment and I agree that academia has its fair share of issues (self citation, institutional bias etc).. But if you do not even upload a manuscript on the internet and expect your audience to believe your claims purely based on your vague explanation of your theory.. I just do not trust him.
CHANGE MY MIND
Aditya Dendukuri he has a unique thing going on where he likes to talk about when his thoughts are in superposition. It’s not neat, it’s not tidy, it doesn’t come to a nice conclusion.
It’s about paradigm. Like Schrödinger's cat, we will see. I don’t see it as a weakness I see it as honesty.
It’s the same situation with geometric unity. It’s a different way of looking at the same stuff and that means something. I’m still chewing geometric unity but it’s going somewhere.
The Einstein quote is only applicable for certain types of concepts. For example let’s get Karl Friston to explain his free energy principal in 5 mins.
On this same podcast it took 50 minutes and it was a cursory treatment, but do I think he is wrong or doesn’t understand it well? Of course I don’t.
YES!!!
He is resisting not speaking down, he is encouraging speaking up. He is capable of thoughts that are perhaps absurd unless you are willing to allow him to continue trying to vocalise his theory.
I don't hink he is narcissistic at all and not trying to be an enigma.
He is challenging and the convalutions are his ability to draw upon multiple streams of thought. To me this provides discussions that invite anyone to debate him.
Why wouldn't he enjoy being of unique character? And his hair is luxurious, how is it "crazy"?
I have a beehive. Just because it looks awesome.
Big hair no cares.
I don't mind if I don't change yours.
But I challenge the initial premise that he "enjoys not being understood". He is going above and beyond to explain what he understands.
Wait what? I just did a googling and looking around on arxiv and ...yea, there appears to be no manuscript at all. I also got the feeling that a lot of other people here did that he was being intentionally vague, not really trying to be understood. Now that I know that he's been talking about this since 2013 and still hasn't even committed anything concrete to paper... That doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence. He alluded early in the interview that he didn't approve of the way he would be criticized by academia. He was vague about that, too, but now I am thinking that he's just afraid that his ideas will be successfully challenged. Also not very inspiring. Or am I missing something here?
I watched some of his lectures. He does appear to have some important equations reformulated in his theory. I think it would be worth for someone that understands this math really well to try to recover simple equations (like F=ma) from Eriks equations just like how one can recover more basic rules in electromagnetism from maxwell's equations. The math is a bit beyond me at the moment but it would be a good roadmap of things to study.
Lex has something. Asking a simple question while fully prepared to go DEEP.
Lex! At 26:20 you say “ I feel I should become a leader on a small scale.” Eric responds “you can’t.” This is totally incorrect. As intelligent as Eric is, he is does make mistakes. This is one mistake. Lex, you absolutely can and should step up. You even have the support of us to further boost your success and lend support
Leading comes from taking initiative. Have you not seen him do this?
Eric changed his tone along the line with this ... when the sense that Lex is truly trying to be a leader .
Don’t worry Neo. You are not “the One”
@@petyrbaelish1216 Then who do you think is in the lead doing the podcast and all his other enterprising?
i absolutely love experiencing the topics and ideas flying overhead and occasionally grabbing a couple ... these guyses!
I was waiting for this, ever since he talked about this in JRE!
Yes. Lex is a little tease. I will listen tomorrow, as it's a little late to have my mind blown by Eric.
Same here!
1:01:01 GU for idiots, please make it happen!!
Who else Is more confused than ever on Eric’s geometric unity theory
I don't understand it well enough to be confused.
Because there is no theory yet. It's all smoke and mirrors misdirection in the form of convoluted analogies from Eric.
Eric is hesitant because he knows he will be ridiculed. He is critical of everyone but too scared to stand on his own. He is not clear in developing his idea. He is all over the place.
Mathematically, it sounds super elegant and interesting (defining a metric on the space of all metrics is mindblowing) but I have no clue about what physics it could entail.
@@tommcnally3231 That's because electrical engineers aren't taught, since there is no need, QFT, GR, or ST.
I absolutely love Eric’s perspective and ideas
Lex: "Every time I am trying to think about that..my mind shuts down.."
Eric: "No. Don't do that."
Hahaha ... We have another tshirt slogan to go with " Russian so I romanticise about everything".
dude I just listened to the first episode today and had a blast. and now this. bless you guys. love you both
Watch the Schmidhuber episode
@@jp2135744 /watch?v=2wq9x2QcZN0&t=2s
I’ve listened to this conversation several times and I enjoy it more each time. Thank you both for what you provide to society and your respective fields
I watched the Geometric Unity lecture when it came out, really glad to have this as a follow up!
Lex, you are such an amazing interviewer. I've watched Eric give explanations of Geometric Unity to multiple interviewers, none of whom have teased such a great one out of him.
Dont stop Eric. You are fighting for all of us.
On my wedding day last year, we went and visited the war memorial in Orem, UT. Thanks for this wonderful tradition Eric!
Almost 3 hours and I loved every second of it
my favorite duo! Love the way you guys interact and challenge one another - Awesome content - thanks for your courage, capability and humility
I wish Eric was a better teacher. “How does it become my job to digest what has been available for 90 years?” By being a public intellectual with any communication ambitions.
I think that getting the knowledge required to understand him is the task for those who are trying to understand him, provided that the knowledge is freely available. He wants to communicate new ideas, not the ideas that are already out there, which you can learn yourself or with help of somebody actually aiming to help you learn them.
I think what he means is that to understand the ideas he’s trying to convey ud need to at least understand these underlying concepts, he’s not implying he wouldn’t try to explain or teach them to you but he’s only saying that, if ure to understand or even try to convey a reasonable line of thought about a basic theory of reality, u need to understand or at least know the knowledge thats been up in the world for the last 90 years.
@jay What? Why? What does it have to do with anything?
@@telecorpse1957 This was Newton's philosophy.
When he invented calculus and wrote a book on it, no one could follow the mathematical language or logic, Newton was like, not my job to teach numpties how to math
@@brettjames9088 Do not invent fake history please, when Newton Published his seminal book Principia Mathematica (that introduced newtons laws and ideas on classical mechanics), he hid the fact the he used Calculus (a branch if mathematics that he secretly developed), and instead He gave many of his proofs in a geometric form. This may have caused some problems in following his logic, but it wasn't too hard to follow, since at that time, geometric arguments were dominant in the field of mathematics.
Hey Lex, I just want you to know that I love what you are doing with this podcast. My brother and many of my friends are now avid followers. I don’t think I’ve watched an interview I haven’t liked, and you’re the only channel I now have notifications enabled for! Lots of love and thanks for putting this stuff out there.
Does make one question how brilliant these fellas really are
I feel like the only one who can see through this Eric?. His conversation style is not actually conversation. He has premade answers and uses pre made chains of conversation to cause the other person to ask certain questions, and inserts unnecessary nomenclature into the answers mixed with feigned emotion and then says what he had pre planned to say all along. There is also the same technique that Deepak Chopra does, the same sophistry technique that made Deepak famous by everyone who was easily impressed with his "intelligence".
Truly intelligent people are not impressed here. I don't mean to be mean to Eric, i am sure he is intelligent. But so are many people. I wonder why he in particular requires so much attention and admiration though.
Agreed
Yeah the percentage of time he actually answers a question is at best 10%. The rest of the time it is some tangent analogy that doesn't make sense or answer the question. But the percentage of time Eric thinks he has blown everyone's mind with Nobel Prize winning insight is 110%.
It's so bizarre. To have a theory of everything but to clearly take no interest in explaining it to an interested interviewer. Lex is practically begging for a layman's explanation of his ideas, but he can pry nothing concrete from Eric. Like, dude, do you want to share this "groundbreaking" work with everyone or not?
T Bainbridge It reminds me of people on Facebook who post something like, “I’m so frustrated!!” just fishing for people to ask Whyyyyy?
Your expectations are too high. Most people that are good at communicating repeat a lot of the same ideas that they have previously repeated.
You basically described my calculus’s teachers
This is one of the most powerful and most inspiring channels, good sir. Thank you very much for your efforts.
This is a fun and stimulating series of interviews. I find myself wishing though that Eric would refrain from being patronizing to Lex.
He has to act like this because he doesn't actually have anything. Same reason he admonishes academic journals, if he attempted to define with specifics what he is talking about people would immediately recognize that it is false.
@@saladtnogs What’s you expertise? Just want to know.
I think maybe that Eric has his own way of communicating that is simply different from ours. Let's allow him to be who he is. Those he talks to don't seem to mind.
@@alexanderthesk8 who is stopping him from being himself? People just suspect his outrageously lofty claims of a paradigm shifting discovery, arguably greater than that of relativity, is bullshit. Eric acts offended by the skepticism but has produced NOTHING to argue for or against.
@@MrMashyker ChemE Master's and working through doc program with dissertation on functional analysis in relation to Hilbert Space curves specifically regarding laminar flow
This is a great Interview. Like these two should do this alot more. First time seeing this guy Lex. I love him wearing this suit, it's like a 60s 70s feel. When people and interviewers were real. He is perfect interviewing Weinstein. Great questions, never interrupts, let's him talk and 0 ego involved. Should be the New wave of the world these two talking like this on a weekly basis.
He looks incredibly dead inside. I'm sure I'll complete the video regardless XD
Cookston you must be new to the int dark web
"Lex, should we have a drink?" - Eric
ugh I love Eric but he seems desperate to show how cool he is, like he's this smooth cool drinker. Ironic that Eric calls out Lex on presentation when Eric's style of communication can itself be very irritating (nothing wrong with that in the exploration of ideas but still)
They should have DMT .
Smelson I don’t think we watched the same podcast?
Taj Macall oh come on, man. He’s a socially awkward intellectual. Who the fuck cares if sometimes he’s cringey. It’s endearing just as much as it is anything else. He’s a genuine guy, and you can tell the people he’s talking to see that, and are delighted by him. I don’t get the point of this comment, honestly.
I think you guys are crossing wires. He was talking about Eric, not Lex the interviewer.
Eric we need good leaders like you and Lex Fridman.
Jesus man I literally just finished watching the previous podcast with Eric a few minutes ago. Looks like I'm not getting any more work done this evening! One of my main aims during this lockdown was to explore/simulate hidden variable theories so I love that you are going to discuss geometric unity with him. Thanks for all the great content!
So uh... got a public playlist for them hidden variable theories? I got a channel you'd like perhaps, the videos with the most views are the ones worth watching if I recall correctly, either way, I had fun a few years ago watching a lot of this guys stuff. He ended up being correct on a few predictions regarding CERN, Higgs Boson, quantum mechanics...
ruclips.net/user/gavinwince
As a first impression, Eric has a confusing gap between his expressed position and actual position.
Lex: "so why dont you lead?"
Eric: "throws a mental gymnastics routine"
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 i think he is trying to say weinstein doesnt lead by action but is making a call to action which isnt confusing. weinstein admits he wants one thing but doesnt know the solution (on rogan he says he wants a revolution, when question how, he says i dont know the answer but that a revolution somehow is needed)
It was an honor to be on the show Cooksey. We'll do it again if the Cooksey Mob enjoys it✊
"It all begins from the middle finger" Thats a t-shirt alright.
most epic quote of all time
This is the angriest man I've ever seen interviewed. It's either going to free him or crush him
Angry? I see curioius.
I see a marter, with a positive connotation to the word "marter" :) unboxable to acadamia
I heard this conversation for the second time, brilliant!!! Thank you
Amazing conversation! Keep crushing it Lex! I think you are, by far, the best interviewer ever on a podcast
I appreciate this conversation. Thank you, gentlemen!!🙏😃
I’m not “caught up either.”
I want to learn. I want to know
This is brilliant and, as much as I love Rogan, is everything his conversations with them were not
Joe’s job is to question for you to understand this one is for you to comprehend!
@@elliot1784 I heard this in correct voices ofc like the Morgan Freeman meme
"Many of us are in closets, having nothing to do with our sexual orientation" -Eric
Lex missed a golden opportunity to crank start a throbbingly spicy conversation about traps. Could have really sprang that open, I could see the fear in Eric's eyes that he might. They kinda have a Lahey/Randy-BoBandy vibe too.
I love listening to things I'll never begin to understand. Maybe I need pictures to accompany this conversation on geometric unity.
How can I possibly find my way to having conversations even remotely like this in my life? It seems like everyone I interact with is afraid to talk about the things that really matter. Do you need to have a podcast to do it?
Bobby Towers hahaha right
Thanks Lex, really enjoy the format of your shows :) this one was great
My name is Patrick. What I do is regenerative ranching/ land restoration. I'm sure you won't read this but if u do I absolutely love your channel. It has made me feel like I'm part of something as big as this planet and I can affect it. Rambling. Thanks man
"I'm a slow learner, it's true. But I learn." -sansa
Great podcast! I love hearing different perspectives and learning new things.
"Remember the Russian revolution of 1907?"
seems like Eric is living his second life
@Bill lol, lenin was a tatar
malachi simonyan that’s bullshit regardless of his ethnicity
@Bill Just like the one in france in 1789.
@Bill i think my father mentioned that. Good clarification.
@@malachi5813 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_of_June_1907#:~:text=The%20Coup%20of%20June%201907,fundamental%20change%20in%20the%20Russian
This is one of the most important conversations that have happened in my short lifetime of 20 some odd years
Couldn’t agree more
I’d like to hear Eric talk more about the institutional illness in the system. Where are the rebels ? Not the ones burning down the cities , the men and women that will save our society.
@Lex Fridman @Eric Weinstein Agree that this conversation is very critical. @Bret Weinstein is another great mind / voice, and could name a few others that are growing voices of reason. I suspect a new, independent social media platform will arise soon where your voices will be crucial.
Really enjoyed the Dawkins episode, I've been in The Portal all week too so this is great.
Beautiful minds and hearts, what a treat and honor. Thank you.
Hollow hare aou?
How..
How you my myrfiend, good.
Like others I feel oddly lacking in knowledge to understand all of this, yet I keep watching.
People are made of cells. Cells contain DNA. DNA is made up of molecules. Molecules are made up of chemical elements. Chemical elements are atoms. Atoms have a nucleus made up of one or more positively charged Protons, zero or more neutrally charged Neutrons, and zero or more positively charged Electrons (normally the same numbers as there are Protons), so a single Atom of Hydrogen gas is one Electron orbiting one Proton with no Neutrons, meanwhile a single Atom of Gold has 79 Electrons and 79 Protons and 118 Neutrons. Now there was a mystery in physics which was "Why do atoms with multiple positively charged Protons stay glued together when their Protons should repel each other apart?"
This led to the assumption that there must be some new force of nature gluing Protons together. Later experiments revealed that Protons were made up of three Quarks held together by gluons. Neutrons were made up of three Quarks held together by gluons too. The gluons were responsible for keeping the atomic nucleus together. The way gluons operate is governed by something called the Strong force.
Actually, there are only two types of Quark inside most atoms. There are Up Quarks and Down Quarks. That's it. Very simple.
So you have an Electron with an electric charge of -1
Then you have an Up Quark with an electric charge of +2/3
Then you have a Down Quark with an electric charge of -1/3
Therefore, a Neutron is +2/3 + -1/3 + -1/3 = 0 charge
and a Proton is simply +2/3 + +2/3 + -1/3 = +1 charge
Elegant, isn't it?
So all atoms in the Periodic table are made of Up and Down Quarks held together by gluons with Electrons orbiting them. Those atoms then connect into molecules and can form things like DNA which allows life to replicate itself and grow cells to make new people to make and watch podcasts and comment under the video. These quarks are called elementary particles, and they can't be divided into anything more primitive.
However, particles can be thought of as waves. However, both models of reality are misleading as they are actually fields that are spread out everywhere and interact with each other, and sometimes those interactions seem wave like, and other times they seem like point particles moving around.
Eric Weinstein is saying that there is just a single unified field named omega which interacts with itself in fourteen dimensions to produce relativistic waves, some aspect of which are determined via interaction with the engine of observation that is gravity - i.e. the "curvature" of our readily accessible four dimensional spacetime.
_Geometric _*_Unity_* is a speculative work in progress that aspires to be a Unified Field Theory and a potential future candidate for what a Theory of Everything might look like. It is not yet either. It does not describe itself as a Theory in his incomplete draft paper. Lex described it as a Theory of Everything, which is a misrepresentation of where Eric Weinstein has got with it thus far. It may become a candidate for a Theory of Everything at some point in the future, but it might take several years more work. It is hard to say "How long?" with these things as Albert Einstein worked on his Unified Field Theory at Princeton University for the last thirty years of his life and was unable to solve the problem.
Eric Weinstein thinks that the problem can be solved by unifying the almost incompatible types of geometry which underlie both _Quantum Field Theory_ and _General Relativity._ Here, _Quantum Field Theory_ is based on the geometry of Charles Ehresmann. _General Relativity_ is based on the geometry of Bernhard Riemann. These geometries can be made to work by the construction of a kind of bridge between both geometries, that Eric Weinstein calls a Chimeric fiber bundle as, like the mythical Chimera that has the head of a lion and tail of a snake, Eric needs to find a way to join the fourteen dimensional Ehresmannian surface where omega lives with the four dimensional Riemannian spacetime where we live.
Hence, Geometric Unity.
Then you have a single field omega 'pulled back' through this Chimeric fiber bundle so that some aspects of this field manifest as phenomena in our four dimensional Universe, like quarks and electrons (i.e. Fermions) and gluons (i.e. Bosons). I'm leaving out a lot of detail, so you may want to read my longer comments on my video:
_Geometric _*_Unity_* explained in under 2 minutes
ruclips.net/video/wVlDoR_EMPg/видео.html
Love both these dudes and that they love each other. Hope more interviews in the future
Eric “ I want the rot cleared out ! I don’t need to go after individuals “ 🧠🎯🧠🎯🧠🎯 this is what I’m talking about 💚
Eric should be known as a great communicator. What a great teacher he is.
His theory made no goddamn sense but usually yes I agree
You just saved my quarantined evening
Correction needed, "evenings". 🙂
Lex, this was probably your most important interview and you nailed it. I really hope Eric can break the stifling model of academics and be able to reach more people in a way that promotes freedom of thought and experimentation. Commoditization of academics, free thought, innovation, and movement forward is extremely dangerous. Hopefully something beautiful will come out of this "breaking of the mold". Looking forward to hearing more from you guys.