How GOOD is Estevao 'Messinho' Willian? ● Tactical Analysis | Skills (HD)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In-depth tactical analysis of Estevao 'Messinho' Willian who has been touted as Brazil's answer to Lionel Messi. Having just signed for Chelsea, could he take the Premier League by storm? What are his key tactical attributes and more importantly... just how good is he?
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0:00 INTRO
0:25 GOAL THREAT
2:24 DRIBBLE
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8:04 CROSSING
9:18 DEFENDING
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11:45 TACTICAL TALKBOARD
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Can u make a vídeo to Luis Guilherme (Palmeiras 18yo)? Probably New guy in West Ham.
Estevao is still 17. He still has 4 whole years of development to be the age of Olise currently who is also very young. Therefore, Estavao is generational & has a higher ceiling than Olise, 100%!!
"Can get nutmugged" as a weakness is crazy😂
Only reason I'm not completely against this signing is because Joe Shields targeted him. His eye hasn't been wrong so far with Palmer, wanting Olise and yet to see Lavia
Dont think theres anything concrete suggesting shields was behind this
@@jilnokuri371 I read that it was him and our South American scout, forgot his name.
I am a Palmeiras fan, and I never miss a match. I can tell you this guy will be better than Endrick. He is a better version of Vini Jr., Every game he plays in Palmeiras team you can see this kid is different, and is already on the starting squad. Even comparing him to Paez is crazy, Ecuatorian league is really bad, probably Palmeiras youth 20 if played in that league would be placed top 5 for sure. If Estevan was playing on this league his stats would be so much better compared to Paez. Also, Palmeiras has the best managers in South America, and the club infrastructure is better than a lot of European teams, he will develop strength, improve shooting by the time he is 18, and he will be an amazing player. I can bet with anyone he would start over Paez anytime.
Mark my words, this guy will be in the Brazilian national team in less than 3-4 months, and in a matter of time he will start over Raphinha. In 3 years you will see this kid playing better than Vini Jr. They are the same type of player, but Estevan has much more skills
@@dfreire19 paez is starting for ecaudor at 16 and has been amazing in the games he plays vs the likes of uruguay. Is estevao the biggest brazillian talent since neymar? Why is there so much hype about him when his stats are ordinary
@@jilnokuri371 I can bet you $1,000 that Palmeiras, Flamengo, Atletico MG which are the top teams in Brazil would beat Ecuador national team in a match 4 times out of 5. Paez and Estevao are much different. Paez is more a Bernardo Silva, Estevao is more like Foden and Vini Jr.
Vini Jr, Ronaldinho, Adriano did not have great stats in Brazil before moving to Europe. But you could still see their potential when playing, truly I could not believe that Vini Jr would become what he is today, I was not a fan of him at all. If he is where he is now, I can just imagine how good Estevao can be.
If you want to see for yourself, just watch some Palmeiras matches and you will see how good this guy is. Paez is more mature of course he has been playing for the Pro team and National team now for a while, which means for me that Estevao has still a lot more to improve compared to Paez.
Neymar was different, in my opinion if he practiced like Messi or C. Ronaldo he would have won 4-5 ballon d'oro, but he is just lazy, and a billionare now that does not care about his performance. He complains about injuries but he gets injured because he is not physically strong due to the lack of hard work. I am just saying if Estevao works hard, he will be better than Paez, Vini Jr, Rodrigo, Foden, Endrick.
Damn, Kendry Paez is on Top of ALL of those stats.. He must be an inter generational talent!!
I hope you'd do a video analysis on him.
He plays in Ecuadorian league. Even Brazilian league is much more harder than that
@@piyushsingh960that’s why Kendry scored a banger against palmeiras of Brazil. And at 16 schooled bielsas Uruguay in WCQ. The same Uruguay that beat Brazil and Argentina.
@@Andy-li5xrbro, you dont talk sense to people who get their ball knowledge from videogames
@@Andy-li5xr Yeah because his stats came from that game alone. He's good but please, the league is at a much lower level
On our list to do
Can you do one on Kendry Paez?
We are planning to do one don't worry.
Waiting 💪
@@PythagorasinBootsyou need to do one with Nico Williams
@@PythagorasinBoots Eagerly waiting for the Kendry Paez Video
@@PythagorasinBoots you better do that quick because the guy can ball
Would love a video on kendry paez considering he’s been playing adult football longer than estevao
on our list to do
Good video. I still think Kendry Paez is the biggest talent Chelsea have right now. I would say the best thing out of South America right now
He is and he is.
Estêvão é melhor, mais progressão com bola!
@@feemdeus4041estevao is literally the Neymar regen, potential is immense
@@feemdeus4041Kendry is another level, bossing games with caicedo for Ecuador
Finally! Lots of love for the channel. Keep up the good work
Thanks a ton!
first channel I saw, that analyze this deep. bravo 👏
Liked it before I watched it because I know the level of quality this channel produces!!!
I know right! The quality of videos this channel produces is truly baffling and the fact that it doesn't have millions of followers feel like a crime against humanity...
paez next
Thanks for another great video guys! Always had top tier content but the quality production adds so much!
Hoping Estevao's physical/mental development allows him to grow enough to enter the intergenerational category. Lot of talk from Brazilians about him, much more highly rated than Endrick by them, apparently better than Vini at that age and best youth talent since Ney + Joe Shield's approval (which i hold in high regard)
Either way a great player but for the price was hoping he'd get the intergenerational stamp of approval from you guys 😁
That aside though the player Im most mesmerised by is Paez. When I saw him I thought of Messi much more than I ever could from Estevao. Kendry does stuff that mesmerises you, things that seem out of this world (alien as you put it) I know you will make a video on him insha'Allah and I cant wait for it.
Wish you guys nothing but success, you deserve it!
Excited to do Paez as well
actually, Kendry isn't really similar to Messi, more like Hulk, with insane shot power. Also good pitch vision/execution of passes
Brill video man!
Thanks for the video Pythag.
I was thinking this fella has to be in the GOAT ratings, due to how peeps we're chatting about this fella. I think he's mad talented tho.
Also, please, if it is possible, could you do one on Paez and Luis Guilherme.
Paez is a baller looking at the metrics with other players.
Luis Guilherme doesn’t get much love due to Endrick and Estevao, but I think he's a diamond in the rough, and I want him at Liverpool.
talented boy for sure.
@@PythagorasinBootsdo a video on him please
Can't wait for this video!
There's so much hype around this kid and I hope it's true...
We need Kendry paez
I know you are talking about Messinho but damn Paez is a special player.😂😂😂
Balla
I’m still waiting the video of Florian Wirtz.
on our list to do
Madueke’s STATS at times looks INCREDIBLE 🤝🏾
Gotta admire the efficiency.
Too many young Brazilians want that fame too early, even goats like Romario and Ronaldo went to smaller leagues to get experience in Europe. Players need to focus on developing instead of the big bucks.
Do you think young romario and r9 would have first gone to smaller teams in 2024? Lol
Times has changed bro.
It’s 2024 mate, no big club is waiting till they’re in their 20s so they can get charged 120 million
You never know. Maybe they will loan him out first.
too many? there is literally 2, endrick and estevão thats it
Can we please dead the comparisons between him and young Messi. He is a talent in his own right, but we need to stop shoehorning every single young talent that comes through, no matter how good or how "similar" they may appear to play. Even a young Messi was an anomaly of a player compared to all others; so for me, the comparisons and platitudes of his elk become more and more redundant.
Messi is an alien, he was better at 19 than most players in football history, comparing anyone to him is so unfair. Estevao also only turned 17 a month ago, they need to give him some time to adapt to senior football
Even worse, he doesn't play like Messi. He dribbles like Neymar, really annoying seeing him being compared to a play he doesn't remotely resemble.
@@kylemiller5671For me, he reminds me more of Robinho at his young age...
Very good player second best Brazil kid after Endrick I wanted him at United. Well done Chelsea.
Btw, how many stats did kendry paez ended up topping off? I see a really good AM in him. Also what was his defensive stat? I was patiently waiting for it but it wasn't included.
Futudo melhor jogador do mundo Estêvão Willian, absolutamente genial!
Joao NEVES next plz. Love your breakdowns!
The fans request, Pythag delivers.
Of course, as usual (hopefully always, once I have the resources 😅)
His max potential is higher than that, he already has ridiculous technique for set pieces and penalties, by the time he arrives at chelsea he will have at least 60/70 pro games same as endrick, estevao can have a impact as soon he arrives
what would you have given..
@@PythagorasinBoots I do think 80/81 would be more fair, arda guler was 80 you know, nonetheless love your work man keep going
@natabrito4355 I have no issue with the rating as a standalone. The problem is it gets ridiculous when you compare Estevao with the other forwards he's done videos on. Guler's max is 80. Nunez was 80 I believe. Mudryk is 80. Hojlund is 80. Sesko is 81. Dembele was 78. Felix was 79. Even Antony was 77. Yet Estevao's max is 77? Pretty ridiculous from that perspective.
@@natabrito4355That’s a Joke that you compare a player at Real Madrid delivering every match to a player still in the Brazilian league. If you actually watch his matches he’s not on the same technical level.
@@navis462 you can cry as much as you want, you talk about brazilian league yet we keep producing the best players by dozens good luck to explain that
How about doing an analysis video on Xavi Simons?
will add to the list
If he was at la masia, he would have easily 85. I think his natural gifts are more than yamal but yamal got advantage of training early at masia.
No way lamine Yamal is far better than messinho..
Lamine Yamal already is World Class at 16 which is scary I think Yamal will turn to be like neymar or mbappe talent at 19 or 20 expect him to be Ballon dor contender which is outrageous at that age
@@avelamasuku660 u are demented and do not watch football, yamal has 12 goal contributions in 47 games, how in HELL is that world class, he is bench of the bench in any serious club
@@isaac15752at 16 ... 12 goal contribution are world class
This estavo guy has also crossed that age and has spent most of his time in youth team while lamine is performing at the highest level of football ...AT 16
You surely don't know ball if you think lamine is not intergenerational 😂
@@isaac15752yamal is the second best rw itw behind salah and in front of saka right now.
I don’t think you really understand how good he is, all he’s missing is the ability to manipulate his body so he can take shots from any angle and also a few things like his frame
@@isaac15752 He has 17 goal contributions for Barca across all club competitions and 21 goal contributions across all competitions. He's doing this at the highest level of football. But yes, he's not world class
Can you do one on Florian Wirtz?
Once the transfer window is shut out
Can you do one on THOMAS MULLER!!
He’s gonna be great!!!!!
Please do one on Luis Guilherme
Bro you're talking about young messi like if he was some kind of a freak ( which he was).
Can u do a video about him and set why he's so different from any talent right now?
Any chance you could do one on Ollie Watkins?
Can see him being loaned to Strasbourg the season after next, then after 2 years coming back to Chelsea. I hope after then getting a loan to a Spanish team like a Sevilla to develop one more year and then judge where he is at, but I doubt this from Chelsea.
Would love it if you can do a new video on lamine yamal.. also keep up the good works👏
Yamal's video got taken down because of La Liga copyright, making another one would be useless as it would just get deleted.
@@qasimzulfikar8749 okay thanks
On Patreon, got banned on RUclips.
Well one year later he has made some real progress
can you do Yamal? good job as always
already done. on our patreon.
Yamal video got copyrighted.
awesome video. how is chelsea gonna fit palmer, nkunku and paez in that attack someone will play LW do you think Estevao could thrive on the left ?
Let me make the Paez vid & we'll see
nkunku can play LW
Hey pytharos I really appreciate your show can you do a Jurgen klopp as a player review
Really interested to see just how talented he is
Make a video on a player that’s not gonna get game time for the next 3 years, makes sense
Lamine Yamal video is a must!
Already done but blocked on youtube, it's on our patreon.
Can you do Kendry Paez tactical analysis
Estevao or kemdry paez who has higher ceiling
We will do
Estevao is still 17. He still has 4 whole years of development to be the age of Olise currently who is also very young. Therefore, Estavao is generational & has a higher ceiling than Olise, 100%!!
Can you make a video on Joshua zirkzee?? I would love to see him at Liverpool next season
He's on the list but Serie A players always get banned on RUclips so probably going to go onto Patreon if/when we do it.
Can you do one on Ethan Nwaneri
Make vid on Paez next
Hi Pythagoras in Boots,
Could you make a dedicated video on the tactical analysis of Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi? I'd love to see a breakdown of what makes them the GOATs, including their playing styles, tactical roles, key strengths, and some iconic moments.
In future when I have the resources. Want to justify doing the GOATs with elite end production values/video editing software + they take too much time and don't get shown enough appreciation.
Great analysis
Although I think he is GOAT level if he delivers on his promise, he has too much in his arsenal just like Yamal to be a match winner at the highest level.
Please do Florian Wirtz🙏🏾🙏🏾
Do one for kendry paez
can you do a video on Toni Kroos? it would be great since he’s retiring soon :)
Made a tribute post on twitter, unsure as there are other legends on the list ahead of him + not doing classical videos atm...They take too long and don't get the appreciation/views.
K Paez , Palmer ,and Estevao how will setup in Chelsea ..Can you include in K paez video
4-2-2-2 formation - Enzo & Caicedo as midfielders - Left side Paez - right side Palmer - two strikers will be Nkunku and Estevao.
Can you do a video about Dujuan Richards a.k.a WHISPERS
That's right. I totally forgot they signed him as well. They will probably loan him out first.
Can you do a video about oscar gloukh?
Please Do SANTIAGO GIMINEZ!!! 😢🙏🏼
In our list
Kendry Paez next
I'd love for Estevão not signing with Chelsea for all of those dismising him in the comments, crying in the future
Reminds me a lot of Raphina
Do Kendry Paez please
HE IS THE ONE 🏆
We’re all told this kid is someone we should be over the moon about having but what I see is a kid with the ceiling of Raphinha. As good as Raphinha is he’s not the sort of guy who’s ever going to warrant such hype. I don’t see this kid panning out, I think Palmerias did good to sell as quickly as they can for both him and Endrick before they played too much senior football showcasing actual ability rather than holding on to hype.
Can you do ousman diomande next pls bro? 🙏🏿
Only for patreon
@@PythagorasinBoots fairs
You did one for this guy b4 Paez😂😂🤣
can u pls do an mbappe winger vid
Please can you do one for Kendry Paez
Will do
U could do more relevant players like diomande(sporting), brathwhait(everton), bruno g(Newcastle),yoro and so many more u should focus on that
2/4 you suggested would get blocked on RUclips
Hell be playing in tge championship in no time
Kendry paez video please
We’re still waiting for your Lamine and Nico W vid
Both on our Patreon, Lamine banned on RUclips, Nico early release on Patreon because there are tons of clips I need to edit for Nico but should be on RUclips soon.
Estevao is still only 17. Also we all know that Chelsea = loan, he could go the route of Angelo
Estevao and Olise are of same profile??
How good is Cole Palmer . Please do it next
Already done it almost a year ago
Complete lack of care from chelsea towards the players, have bought about 5 different young RWs in the last year. Some of their careers will be ruined as a result.
Because they can't be sold right ???
Utter nonsense. Tell that to Omari Hutchinson or Noni Madueke
venture capitalism mate. you can also resell most of them likely even more expensive
@@hellosaysme08both of their careers have been ruined don’t tell me you think Ipswich town means Omari has succeeded
@perks9396 good lord, Omari has had 1 season in professional football and was instrumental to a promotion and now his career is ruined? That your logic?
Hmmm, Let's hope he is another cole Palmer. I am a bit skeptical anyway. Premier League is a whole different ball game. He will thrive if he is strong-headed.
Let’s hope so
Prediction: 64/70/77
Profile wise, reminds me of a Luis Diaz. Prefers to dribble through his opponents and do a bit less passing. Diaz is definitely better physically, which can be attributed, at least partially to age. However, Estavao's 2 footedness is a tool that also cannot be taken away from his regardless of league. I think his low, corner driven shot is also more reliable than the more wild finesse shot in the top right corner that Diaz seems to prefer.
Prediction wise, I put bottom level at 64. Coming to the Premier league is a dangerous move for his physicality, and if he is chronically injured (like an Nkunku is in the prem), it could be extremely damning to his rawness in various attributes (especially passing). However, if he manages to build up his frame and stay injury free, his vision is strong enough to let him be generational in his dribbling, goalscoring, and passing. I believe he is intelligent enough and staying fit would allow him to really master his craft in passing. My final prediction is that he will become world class, but not at Chelsea. I see him having to move to Ligue 1 or La Liga to be able to dominate in a less physical league. He would be seen as a flop in the Prem, which would limit his potential in other leagues due to public perception, but would really be threatening in a less physical league where he could develop later. I think it will be a while until we see Estavao really dominating.. 2030?
i classify this as a banger prediction
@@EliCoolio317 😆
lol you really typed all that nonsense
@@delzsupreme yep, i like to do analysis for myself based off of how i think a player will turn out before seeing what pythag rates him. it grows my knowledge on what i think are the keys to success
Nice prediction... really nice points you gave too... I normally run into your comments on Pythagoras' videos... would love to hear your opinion on lamine yamal
Next up Kendry Paez
Before seeing the vid
Potential prediction : 79
Great 👍. Only short by 2 👏
Can you do Leny Yoro ?
Ligue 1 blocks our videos.
Can anyone tell me what was Lamine yamal's rating?
You didn't do Victor Gyökeres video 😢
We did, got banned by RUclips, on our Patreon.
I think he has higher ceilling than 77.
what would your ceiling be?
@@PythagorasinBoots Obviously, I have big gaps in my football knowledge and don't see some things as clearly as you as you're someone I am trying to learn from but honestly I was expecting something closer to Yamal, even tho Yamal edges it for me, I thought his base level could be in the generational level or high end world class with potential around 80-82.
Do a video on yamal
Already have, got banned on RUclips, so we put it on Patreon.
Do Kendry Paez 🙄
palmeiras out here getting a bag off these clubs bro 😭 estevão and endrick are good but damn these prices are not worth
It's potential really. In 2
3/4 years if they can get you 25+ G/A then it's worth it
@@jeffj3976 yeah i understand that,rodrygo and vinicius are perfect examples, but i’m not sure why i just don’t see it with these 2, hopefully i’m wrong
@@WigglyDiggidyRizzidy They definitely have as much potential as Rodrygo and Vinicius
@@WigglyDiggidyRizzidy you're the same guy who probably thought vini was trash when he joined madrid and couldn't finish for shit
@@huzzy_jr no i actually always liked vinicius, because he was entertaining with his skills, he made football enjoyable at times regardless of his finishing
Michael olise Crystal Palace superstar next
On the list
Anyone know who’s going to be better this lad or savio?
Sou Brasileiro e vou falar os jovens jogadores que jogam pela direita com mais potencial, Estevão>Lorran>Sávio>Luis Guilherme>Ângelo Gabriel
Brazil ta bem servido, Finalmente!!!
Lamine Yamal pls
Do Lamine Yamal please
Already have it’s in our patreon
@@PythagorasinBoots will you not post it on RUclips?
He seems very similar to Riyad Mahrez
how accurate can this be hes played like 3 games
People need to focus less on the rating and more on his tactical profile. We have access to all his youth games.
What’s wrong with Diallo?
I think bro is really talented but I’m not sure how his game will translate in the prem, he seems like a la liga player. Like how you could never really see neymar being consistent in the prem, still amazing, just fits in better with a faster league like la liga where flair players thrive more
Why did you make the comparison to Messi every time instead of the player he’s more similar to in Neymar surely the analytics would be much more comparable?
Cause his nickname is litteraly Messi-inho in brazil
@@Nix-nb3znyeah but funny thing is he's more like Neymar and Paez is the one that is more like Messi.
@@Nix-nb3zn okay and there will only ever be one Messi it’s a shit comparison to give any player
He’s even come out and said not to call him Messinho repeatedly
@@000073831 ok but you asked why he was making the comparison to Messi and I told you why. Doesnt mean its a good comparassion though i agree with you
6:48 "a big weapon in his arse"
What age was Messi, the first you watched him play?.
No offence but people can tell when a player is as good as Messi, Neymar and CR7. The eye test can tell that much. So when someone says that this kid is the next Messi I stop watching altogether after the first minute of their highlight reel. This is because they don't pass that level of quality and as such it is not worth entertaining the concept. This kid isn't the next Messi but he can aim to be as good as Mahrez. Mahrez is a top quality RW and would be the best RW in the world if it wasn't for Mahrez playing in Man City and also being constantly put on the bench instead of starting games from the moment he joined Man City. This kid can probably be as good as Mahrez.
I am a Palmeiras fan, and I never miss a match. I can tell you this guy is the best young player I ever saw at Palmeiras in the past 10 years. He 100% will be better than Endrick and Paez. His play style is very similar to Vini Jr. and Foden, but he can be much better than them. Comparing Paez to Estevao is crazy, Ecuatorian league is one of the worst in South American football, their top teams would not be placed even in top 10 in the Brazilian league, I would compare them to Brazil 2nd division. I 100% believe that if Estevao was playing on that league his stats would be crazy. I am not saying Paez is bad, because he is good, but his play style is more like Bernardo Silva, he is a bit slower on the ball, and does not attack the defenders as much
He started to play for the professional team very recently, and there is not a match this kid does not perform well. The amount of opportunities this guy creates is crazy. Technically he is much better than Vini and Foden, and he does not waste time dribbling backwards, he is very objective and aggressive (which sometimes is a problem with Brazilian players, such as Neymar, Antony, Robinho, etc.). Mark my words, this guy in 3 months time he will be in Brazil national team, and soon he will start over Rapinha.
$70M is not expensive for this player, Endrick though I think is a risk, because he needs the team to perform and create the chances for him to play well, Estevao is the one that makes the difference and create the opportunities, similar to when you are watching a Real Madrid and Man City game, Vini and Foden are always creating chances
Tá muito cedo ainda pra afirmar,mas ele é talentoso e se tiver um mental forte vai longe