@mejeff7478 When did he belittling him? He perfectly answer about what is muslim scholar and who is the one who preserve the Qur'an. You mean when he ask who's muslim scholar chris referring about? When he answer the name of youtuber dawah instead of muslim scholar? So correcting means belittling to you? How weak your mentality are?
This was seriously painful to watch. I have never seen such an uneducated person have the audacity to challenge someone on a subject and then not have the basic knowledge that is taught to Muslim children in school. Imagine if Hijab went one level deeper on the topic. This guys head would explode. 😆😆😆
I can’t believe Chris literally said Dr Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat and Shabir Ally are “scholars of Islam” 🤦🏾♂️😂. I love these three brothers but which Muslim *let alone Muslim scholars* calls them “scholars of Islam”? Of all the Galaxy of scholars we have in Islam he chose those three? Where is Chris getting his information from? I know random RUclips videos and one book from Dan Brubaker
@@kM-ij2ly which Muslims say they are scholars? And which *actual* scholars say they are scholars? I agree Yasir Qadhi is a scholar but Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat and Shabir Aly scholars? I love them and they easily refute Christianity but they definitely are not scholars. I know you weirdos think Christian Princes, David “crossdressing” Wood, Jay smith, Sam “Hassamo” Shamoun etc are all scholars to you huh?
@@kM-ij2ly stop dodging which lay muslim or Muslim scholars said those three are scholars? Stop dodging and whining hurry up. And btw those three speakers refuted Christianity nicely anyway 😂
@@kM-ij2ly bro stop using the multiplication explanation LMAO, it literally doesn't explain anything and you yourself have no idea what you're talking about when you use that Jake the Muslim destroyed this awful argument already, stop rehashing
@@MrBigo7510 The phrase: *“May Allah forgive you”* doesn’t indicate that there is a lack of knowledge. 🤦🏽♂️ Which circus did you get this argument from? 😂
@@Kimeikus who is the one saying (may Allah forgive you). It seems your allah lack confidence and don’t know whether he will forgive Muhammad or not. Now compare that to Jesus when he spoke to the woman. Jesus said your sins are forgiven. Big difference.
Allah knows best… really his Quran fails in all circles of knowledge: Science, health, history and Allah doesn’t know who he is! If there isn’t anymore perfect preservation of the Quran then there are contradiction in your holy book… so you can’t know what Jesus really said. So Christianity is true! Come to Jesus!
You can tell this guy isn't sincere. He wasn't even paying attention to Hijab while he was answering and he insists on shotgun Yes/No Q&A because he knows that if a detailed answer is provided then he has nothing to work his sophistry into. What a disgrace.
What are they saying? This video is way too long i dont even know the dilema. All it says in the quran is that this is a preserved reminder. And god knows best how its preserved. But it is indeed a quran preserved.
@@yn9637because a common point that even Mohamed hijab has made before is that the Quran is persevered word for word letter for letter. And as the bible isn’t it’s more likely to be corrupted. But im pretty sure there’s evidence it wasn’t well persevered early on
Great fun reading the comments from the followers of Saul/Paul thinking 'Aha! We finally got something on Islam. The preservation thingy. Aha!' Sadly for them, the brothers and sisters in the comments section quickly and easily put that 'fire' out. :D
Oh we have got you you book is false. feel three to carrying believing a lie but don't expect us to "For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity." SURAH YUNUS AYAT 64 (10:64 QURAN) WITH TAFSIR
The preservation of the quran is problematic for Islam. Al-lah says no one can change his word. In terms of a book written by man, that is a very bold statement. Uthman changed the words in the quran. He very clearly reduced it to one dialect of Arabic and then burned the evidence for any change. Fast forward to today and we have over 30 different Arabic versions of the one that Uthman had made. The issue is that now you have to redefine what changing Al-lahs word means. The previous scriptures are corrupted, but the quran is as good as gold. You will then point to verses that are left out, changes in spelling, books that are left out or included. Then go see you are finished, the corruption is self evident what these Muslims forget is twofold. Firstly: every single definition used to make the Bible corrupt, also makes the quran corrupt. This kind of deception commonplace in Islam. Secondly: the quran nowhere condemns the Bible corrupt. In order to come to this conclusion you need to reject the words of Al-lah and follow the teachings of the scholars Muslims have over 30 different qurans with different words, giving different meanings and interpretations and they think Christians are the ones with the problem.
Either way you slice the Standard Islamic Narrative - the Quran is false! If you disagree with me then you need to address the Quran when it say no one can change my words…Allah? Good luck Come to Jesus The only true saviour for humankind
We claim that the Quran is the only scripture that has been preserved and all other scriptures have not. This can be proven by the fact that the other scriptures language that they were revealed in, Hebrew, Coptic Greek, etc, have become dead languages. If the language that the scriptures came down in are not preserved, how can they claim that those scriptures have been preserved? Hence, the Quran is the only scripture that can claim that it has been preserved.
Bro l think you don't understand our Christian faith and concepts,,,,, Our scripture was revealed not to one man in the cave,,,,,,wen study our way,,,,worship,,,,you will see,,how one is call prepared and commission in the kingdom of God,,,,,
@Son of Mary Are you saying that the languages that your earliest Bibles are in are not dead languages? Also, the language that Jesus pbuh (Aramaic) spoke, is not now a dead language? Dead language = dead religeon
When you have a living language like Arabic that holds a religious text it creates problems. The most significant issue is when it comes to a change in the meaning of, or usage of a word or phrase.. changes in meaning or usage affect the interpretation and application of your “scripture” This affects how it was remembered and recited. this is the single most fundamental problem Islam faces. Is wasn’t completely memorised by anyone. It was put together like a jigsaw puzzle by people that had no business doing so. Muhammad gave no such instructions and it should never have happened. It then took hundreds of years later. A few hundred years later come the commentators then lastly we get the Islamic law.. all the time the Arabic language changes, which changes the meaning of the religious texts with additional meanings and meanings that have changed. That is why Arabic has words with the opposite meaning today, when the Quran was written it likely only had one. The many layers of meaning and usage creates issues of understanding that Christianity and Jews do not have. A dead language simply means that the meaning and usage of words do not change. Grammar and rules of the language are unchanging so the text can be easily understood, and translated into what ever language is wanted In short a living language corrupts the text and meaning. A dead unchanging language preserves the text and meaning A good example is when the muslim god preys for Muhammad. But to who does Al-lah preying to? Another example is where where the author of the quran says Al-lah is one of, but is repeatedly translated as one, which goes against the meaning and usage of the word everywhere else in the quran. Al-lah claims to be the best of deceivers. It is often translated as planers. Just means best at planning evil. The single most important changed word is Islam. People are trying to convince us it means peace when it means surrender
@@986najes8 So my argument is how can the Christian and Jewish texts be preserved, when the language has not been preserved, I've they are dead languages. You can't really get around that! Pre Islamic Arabic was a rudimentary language and when the Qur'an came down, it took Arabic to a level that it had never been and has never been matched, even to this day. This in itself is a miracle, since the Prophet pbuh was unlettered. You have little understanding of how the Qur'an was memerised and how it was compiled. It was memorised in its entirety by Muhammad pbuh. He, in turn, taught it to the sahaba. Memorisation has never happened with the Christian and Jewish texts. The other problem is if the language of the original texts are dead, then we cannot fully interpret it's original meaning. As you said languages change, we would read those changes into the ancient text or lose it's meaning entirely. In Islam we have Hadith that refer to each verse of the Qur'an to clarify and add context to the verses. Christians and Jews do not have anything like this for their 'scriptures'. In summary, even though Judaism, Christianity and Islam claim that their religious texts have been preserved, the Quran is the only one that has been preserved - and we haven't even got into how the Bible was changed, numerical errors and contradictions!
@@kM-ij2ly Imagine being completely ignorant of the subject matter you're there to discuss, incapable of listening to and repeating back the information presented to you, and then getting upset because your opponent thinks you're a moron! christianity is like a psychotropic stimulant, and the dealer of this drug is the holy ghost!
I don't know why Mohammad hijab didn’t say we can go both way i mean we have all variations today directly from prophet and one variation is enough for the word 'preservation'.
@@jeshanzeshan9505 Sahih Muslim 2286 Aisha also speaks about Sura 33 originally having 200 verses as well as the two missing verses regarding adult breastfeeding and stoning.
@@matt291 it doesn’t say anything like that....everything revealed from Allah is not quran....Allah told it to prophet which part of revelation will be part of quran or which part not......so making such claims and argument doesn’t work....
We can't compare their second hand bibles to our preserved holy Quran with all of it's different modes of recitations christians couldn't preserve their book let alone if they may have modes of recitations for their book they would have got more confused about it than ever did with their today's copies and most likely they would have get them confused and conflated with each other imagine this they have one book called the injeel however multiple persons recorded the life of Jesus rather than the actual content of the gospel that Jesus preached and then later on they attribute what they wrote with their own hands to God Almighty in that sense their books can be compared to the fabricated or weak Hadith their book doesn't worth to be compared to our Quran and that's because of the meticulous preservation that the companions did to the Quran with all of its modes of recitations letter by letter word for word the thing here is that the christians won't understand and won't accept that the actual skeleton itself is preserved with it's different variations of reading according to what the prophet was reciting and what the companions had recorded and memorised directly from the mouth of the prophet so the actual Quran is one skeleton text with different modes of recitations according to the Arab tribes dialects and these variations are not considered with the Quranic content number of suras or the organization of these latter but it's all about the different wording that is being revealed by Allah to the prophet as a mercy for the Arab tribes that struggle with reading the Quran with the quraishi dialect so the Quran was revealed in such and such reading to accomodate with the dialects of the Arab tribes and the variations are concerned with the different wording that serves the same meaning or the different recitation of a specific word that's all what it is it is the same text with different modes of recitations or we call them in Arabic قواعد التجويد rulings of tajweed or rulings of recitations and there is a complete science that is dedicated to the Quran that deals with the authenticity of the Quran and how it was transmitted from person to person meticulously not like the bible or the Torah. The reason why the Quran today is printed into many copies is to facilitate the differentiation between a certain recitation because if they include all the recitations in one Quranic mushaf or book then they would have to gather them all in one mushaf that means the same Quranic skeleton or 'rasm' would be repeated many times with a certain variation then the size of the book and pages would be multiplied and it would be even bigger and difficult to even carrying it easily due to its size and the layman would struggle to read or to memorize it in that sense so what the Muslims did is that they repeated or copied the same Quranic text or skeleton or 'rasm' with each variation seprately in books and not in one mushaf to avoid the the issue that i already mentioned that's why the christians thought that we have versions while in fact they we don't have versions we have modes of recitations a version is when the actual content is different than of another copy contextually or textually and we the Muslims we don't have this issue like the christians or the Jews. PS: this information is known to every Muslim in the world it's not something that's it was hidden NO! There is a whole science dedicated to this specific subject and it is called Ilmu Al Qur'an علم القرآن.
@@Gaming343-c2pWe have manuscripts older than your religion. You domt have many manuscripts because you burned them all since they had different variations
Chris: perfect preservation means no change in the Arabic, word for word, letter for letter Hijab: that’s wrong, what scholar said that Muhammad Hijab said this very thing no more than 12 months earlier. hypocrisy From the religion of hypocrites.
Really it’s hard to understand truth when your Iman, teachers and scholars and these YT Dawads are constantly change what is true! Don’t believe me Google Muhammad Hijab on Quran Prefect Preservation. And then tell me if Chris is wrong for his statements!!
We know where the Quran gets it stories from. Is from gnostic Christian stories and Jewish legions. Search it up. Your allah is just a figment of Muhammad illiterate mind. If you want to debate Quran vs Bible. Right here and now we can go ahead.
Easily we look at the manuscripts and we can see the variation in our text and understand what the original text would look like. Your third Caliphs Uthman destroyed the majority of your Quran so and made up what he thought should be in it. Even then he had to rewrite it several years later. So the Muslim don’t have the original Quran there are at least 10 different qurans so that’s how we can.
Are you ok in the head?Uthman(RA) removed the other qirat of Quran (For your understanding basically accents or ways of speaking Arabic) as islam was speaking to non-arabic speakers and they were worried that they would differ on the religion.The Qirat that remained was the Qirat used by the tribe of the prophet(SAW).What rewriting are you on about@@FrankSantangelo-z4z
If I write you 7 notes and each one had a different pronunciation but said the same thing and you came back to me and said these notes are not perfectly preserved because they are 7 separate notes then you would be sent for a medical review...
@@cramax4871no there aren’t an ENRICHING meaning is not a DIFFERENT meanig. Man this is such a long topic, which is way easier to debunk verbally. But long story VERY short (and i’m doing it injustice, but still i do it for you). •The Quran was sent in Arabic •there were different Arabic tribes, and the Prophet (obviously) didn’t live in ALL of them, he lived in ONE of them. •so the Prophet (peace be upon him) received Quran •islam (&by extension Quran) spread to the other arabic tribes. •they had a hard time with the dialect •this is also the case with England and their english speaking countries (England-english, USA-english, Australia-English, Scotland-english, Scouser-english, Irish-english, australia-english) •so they were complaining they had a hard time with the dialect, they couldn’t keep it up, because they have the NATIVE arabic tongue, it’s hard for then to adapt because they “grew up in their dialect tongue” •ask a USA-english speaker to talk like a British speaker for 4 minutes, he’s going to butcher it, (think about “waaddduurr”&”woo’ahh” , “lift-elevator”, “tomeeyto”-“tomaaaato”) So this news came to the prophet (peace be upon him) and then angle Gabriel came down and sent their dialect pleasing text to abide by, which is REVELATION from GOD, people didn’t make it up. • then islam spread to OUTSIDE completely NON-arab speaking nations &tribes • then there was confusion because one said “lift” and the other said “elevator”, so Othman (alongside all the other companions) decided to make a standardized version (that only left little space for accent adaptation (like “praayyvacy”-“Prie-vacy” for “pricacy”) Thus, no corruption has taken place unlike the bible. this issue is literally baby level arguments when u present this to a scholar. Yet christian ad-revenue individuals seek to get paid on the back of islam, so they adress these issues to the leymen to get clicks, it’s sad really.
Wallahi Chris literally read one book of Dan Brubaker and thinks “yess I’m finally gonna debate every Muslim I see and refute Islam on this” 😂. Why doesn’t he concentrate on the clear errors and contradictions in his bible? We all know the answer to that question because Christian scholars *know* that the bible has errors and contradictions, so Chris is hurt by this and wants to refute Islam by saying the Qur’an has the same clear errors and contradictions like his bible. Good try Chris keep whining and crying about “Muslims are belittling me”. Well if you are gonna come to Muslims *especially the ones that are very knowledgeable* and act like a know it all person then we are gonna belittle you haha. So go and cry to your DCCI WhatsApp group 🤷🏾♂️
@@kM-ij2ly Which Quran? "Which" implies differences and a different source altogether... Which christian out there has the evidence to support your claim of "which Quran" because you clearly do not.
@@slsa915 bro talking about corrupt, then Islam doesn't exist. Cause you need to prove the corrupt Holy Bible to prove Islam is real Now tell me, how many daughters does Allah have?
Son of God : exactly... hijab went from insulting Chris to actually listening. Why? Because he realized, to his dismay, that Chris knew what he was talking about. So he couldn’t just silence him like he does most others.
@@john9599 Chris knew what he was talking about?! Wtf?! Did you actually watch this video? The moron thought Shabbir Ali is a Quranic textual scholar! How embarrassing is this joker? He must have the holy ghost!!!!
Trying so hard to make an issue out of nothing. The dude keep saying Disagreement among Sahaba! That’s a shame with what he knows to make such a claim. That is so hypocritical, covering the truth with attempt of planting doubts.
@@misshouda1740 really we now who they are! Tell me who Muhammad and his companions are without referencing the Hadith that were written 200 years after Muhammad and his companions. And let’s not start making charges of Paul… because all we need to do is look at your sources which claim Paul was a follower of Jesus…
1. It was narrated that Abu Umaamah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever recites Ayatul Kursi immediately after each prescribed prayer, there will be nothing standing between him and his entering Paradise except death.” 2. Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: He who says, ‘Subhan-Allahi wa bihamdihi‘ (Glory and praise be to Allah) one hundred times a day, his sins will be obliterated even if they are equal to the extent of the foam of the sea. (Al-Bukhari and Muslim) 3. Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet said:“There are two statements that are light on the tongue, heavy on the scales, and beloved to the Most Merciful: Subahana Allahi wa bihamdihi, Subhana Allahi Al-`Azeem (Glory and praise be to Allah, Glorified is Allah, the Most Great.)” (Al-Bukhari) 4. Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet said: He who repeats after every prayer: Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah) thirty-three times, Al-hamdu lillah (praise be to Allah) thirty-three times, Allahu Akbar (Allah is Greatest) thirty-three times; and completes the hundred with: La ilaha illallahu, wahdahu la sharika lahu, lahul-mulku wa lahul-hamdu, wa Huwa `ala kulli shai’in qadir (There is no true god except Allah. He is One and He has no partner. His is the sovereignty and His is the praise, and He is Omnipotent)Will have all his sins pardoned even if they may be as large as the foam on the surface of the sea.” (Muslim) 5. Zaid ibn Harithah narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Whosoever says: ‘Astaghfirullaha al-`Azeem al-ladhi la ilaha illa howa Al-Hayy al-Qayyum wa atubu illayh(I ask forgiveness of Allah, the Magnificent, than Whom there is no deity, the Living, the Sustainer of existence, and I turn to Him in repentance,) his sins will be forgiven even if he should have run away from the battlefield (while he was engaged in fighting for the Cause of Allah, which is a grave sin in Islam). (Abu Dawud and authenticated by Al-Albani) 6. The Prophet peace be upon him said "Whosoever recites Durood Sharief on me 10 times in the morning and evening, I will intercede for him on the day of Qiyamah." (TIBRANI) 7. Whoever reads Surah Ikhlas ten times, Allah will build a palace for him in Paradise. ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) exclaimed, “If that’s the case, then we will increase in our palaces!” The Prophet ? (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) responded, “Allah is better and greater (in reward).” [Ahmad] 8. Whoever reads Surat al-Kahf on Friday, it will act as a light/protection for him from one Friday to the next. [Bayhaqi] 9. Whoever performs their ablution carefully and then affirms (their faith by testifying): “Ash-hadu an laa ilaha il Allah wahdahu laa shareeka lahu wa anna Muhammadan `abduhu wa rasuluhu; Allahumma-ja’lni min at-tawaabeen waj-a’lni min al-mutatahireen”: ‘I testify that there is no true deity except Allah Alone, Who has no partners, and that Muhammad ? is His slave and Messenger; O Allah, make me from those who repent and purify themselves’ - the eight gates of Jannah are opened for him so he may enter through whichever of these gates he desires.[Tirmidhi] 10. Whoever says: “Radheetu billahi Rabba, wa bil Islaami Deena, wa bi Muhammad Nabiyya” - ‘I am pleased with Allah as my Lord, and with Islam as my Religion, and with Muhammad as my Prophet,’ Paradise would be (made) mandatory for him. [Abu Dawud] 11. Whoever asks Allah for Paradise three times (Allahumma inni as’aluk al-Jannah), then Paradise will say: “O Allah! Enter him into Paradise!” And whoever seeks protection with Allah from the Fire three times (Allahumma ajirni min an-Nar), the Fire will say: “O Allah! Protect him from the Fire!” [Tirmidhi] 12. Whoever is easy-going, gentle and kind, Allah will make the fire forbidden for him. [Hakim] 13. In Paradise there are rooms whose outside can be seen from the inside and the inside can be seen from the outside. Allah has prepared them for those who feed the poor, who are gentle in speech, who fast regularly and who pray at night when (other) people are asleep. [Ahmad] 14. Narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There is a soorah of the Qur’an, with thirty verses, that interceded for a man until he was forgiven; it is ‘Soorah Tabaarak Alladhi bi yadihi’l-mulk (Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the dominion)’ [al-Mulk 67:1].” If you pass this on, It is Sadaqatul Jaria. (meaning you keep on getting rewarded for it, every time someone acts upon it even when you have died, until the day of judgement🤲🏽🤍).
Sorry, Hijab is lying in this video. Not mistaken but lying. He himself as well other most Muslims, believed that the Quran has 'been preserved, word for word, letter by letter, vowel for vowel'. His words. Any Muslims that says otherwise is lying to themselves not to anyone else.
When Christian’s disagree with criticisms of the Bible they go back to the Hebrew to settle it semantically. If there’s an original Quran, and also 9 deviations, you can still go back to the original. But literal discrepancies in physical texts are irrelevant to the argument. If the message doesn’t translate, doesn’t matter what lines are on the paper.
I can prove my Qur'an and show u original Qur'an which goes till the time of the prophet and it's the same Can't say the same for the bible but I don't even care because u probably don't even know a single Arabic work
@@MK-hw2ir so let me guess it depends how you defined perfect? How does that even make sense isn’t perfectly preserved mean perfectly preserved or your idea of perfection changes? That’s the Muslim shuffle. Hijab literally says it depends on how you define perfect. What a clown. Without lies Islam dies. I edited to put in a timestamp for you. 18:05 🤣😂
@@MK-hw2ir so Hijab at 18:05 states the it depends how you define perfect. That’s the Muslim shuffle my friend. Perfect means perfect but to Hijab it means whatever he wants it to mean. 😂🤣 Tell me how that makes sense. I’ll wait.
@@franciscorodriguez1615 it is perfectly preserved, you’re missing the whole point of what this weasle chris was doing. He’s missing the fact that THE QURAN IS THERE IN IT’s ENTIRETY. Let’s for example say, if God speaks, all the words are Golden. While when the human speaks, the words are grey. The Qoran has COMPLETELY GOLDEN WORDS, what has been removed by othman ARE THE DIALECT SYNONYMS that were used for the elderly because they had problems with the dialect. (Like for example english people have with “Lift” & “Elevator” in USA) the elderly leyman who were newly introduced to islam couldn’t catch up. But later when islam began to spread to NON-ARABS, (who are not familiar with the different dialect tongues) there was misunderstanding taking place thinking there were DIFFERENT QURANS. So Othman removed the DIALECT issue and ONLY left the accent variation (like the english also have with “Woo’ah” and the American “waaaaduuurrr”.) It’s the same. This whole convo only proves more how precise the scholars have been in their preservation, we have all the names and biographies of the preservers of the Quran. While Christianity has been corrupted to the core, the vast majority of the biblical text is “grey words”, only a minority of sentences are “Golden words”. This video strenghtened my faith even more on how Islam is on a different realm of existence compared to Paulianity is. Bible literally has unknown authors who randomly got decided that their words carry some sort of validity according to who? Their own admittion😂 and matthew mark luke john who you know NOTHING of besided their names, no knowledge on whether they were trustworthy souls, and don’t even let me get started about Paul who destroyed the religion from within, and the fact that his words carry validity to be including IN THE LITERAL BIBLE, not even that alone, HIS words are given preference OVER LITERALLY JESUS CHRIST (peace be upon him) you can’t make this stuff up. AlhamduliAllah for the blessing of al-islam♥️ pure monotheism without associating partners with God, that which Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) hated THE MOST in his lifetime
This Chris put himself in deep mud ,he is trying to run by lying ,this Chris is not sincere ,he wants to record a tape as part of his job, he still a enemy of islam faith ,he isn't her to discuss nor to learn, he never hear nor listen he is a talking machine , please brother Hijab just leave .
3mins The christian accuses MH of going on a "tirade". "Tirade" - "a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation." See how disingenuous and unjust he is.
M.Hijab did a really bad and damaging job here. He should’ve clearly stated that the Quran is perfectly preserved and is a letter to letter word of Allah. He shouldn’t try to explain the 7 Ahruf because we don't care. After all, they don’t affect the Quran's perfection. I recommend the channel’s owner remove this segment because M.Hijab provided several incorrect or misleading statements.May Allah guide him we all make mistakes but Dawa's mistakes should be corrected asap
@@jazzjazz7627 Thats literally what he is saying. Chris is saying the fact that the variants exist decreases the legitimacy of the quran, while hijab is arguing otherwise saying that the seven variants are perfectly preserved. So i don't get your point when you are agreeing with hijabs pov
Thats a agressive way of debating hijab thats not a way of inviting ppl to islam thats chasing them away very unfortunate hijab turned it into an argument subhanAllah so called daa'e
Brothers/sisters ! Hijab ! You neglecting a simple fundamental ...even though he is a great companion ,no one human is perfect in their memory ...there were at least 64 other memorizers that differed with his opinion and the latter OBVIOUSLY would be regarded as "perfect " preservation ...and that is our scholarly approach to all issues of our tradition and a very logical approach to anything in life
Chris, try to be open to actually learn and not to just defend Christianity by attacking Islam and being narrow minded. It’s ok to scrutinise Quran no worries but how can you still be Christian if you would apply the same standards to the bible?
Chris does he re-watch his ignorant. You can't debate ignorant people because they don't understand fundamental of the debate at least knowledgeable people come up something everyone understand this young man don't know anything Arabic and he is trying to talk about
The ignorance of this guy Chris. You are not there to debate, because as Hijab said you don’t have the knowledge to debate. You at most are there to ask questions and get answers but mostly you are there to be educated on the subject you broach. As Hijab said if you don’t know Arabic and you don’t know what the Muslim claim of the preservation of the Quran is then how can you even fathom debating. Simply my answer to people like you is ‘Lakum deenukum wa li-ya deen’ The reason it’s my answer because Allah educated me on how to deal with deceitful people like you.
this guuy just poiton like the other chirstian or atheist that says wanna learn but they just want to look "shortfall" of islam. he dont even know what he is talkin about.
Based on Mimi's logic Allah is unjust for for revealing his final message in Arabic. A lot us and Muslims don't speak or understand it. Why did we not receive guidance in our own native languages.
It is because during each revelation it was primarily sent to a nation or region. Arab was having the darkest period of humanity and there Allah had decided to deliver it which to be conveyed everywhere. People would always have argue why it is not in their language. If one can learn a language for worldly sake of communication or benefits, learning some basic of Arabic is not a big deal. Besides, you have translations and interpretations in many languages already, It is just an excuse of a corrupt heart to find a flaw where is none.
Hijab destroys !slam @10:50 by saying "Preservation is not that there's no variants". Thankyou Hijab for being the first mzlm in 1400 years to admit that quran is not perfectly preserved. Historic moment.
@@sahihalbukhari-si1ji variants are from god so yes preservation includes the variants lol. Whereas the variants in the bible are not from god but from men + they contradict and have fabrications
The problem with you morons is that you’ve got such a low standard in the Bible that you leave your brains out in every conversation. No Muslim has denied that there are no variants. We believe there are 7 modes to reading the Quran, all revealed by the Almighty, and all sanctioned by the Prophet. These 7 modes or 7 recitations or 7 variants as you would call them make up the 1 Holy Quran. Any one reciting one of these modes is not rejecting the others. The modes are all 99% the same with a slight variance in pronunciation and meaning of a few words. As Hijaab explained in 1 mode Allah describes Himself as The King of the World and in the other He describes Himself as The Ruler of the world. The modes complement each other because God even as you believe it, is both King and Ruler over all things. The modes never contradict each other as we see the hundreds of contradictions in the Bible. These complementary modes were revealed as a gift from God. We are proud of them. We never hide them. If you look at the whole picture, with the 7 modes, there is only 1 perfectly preserved Quran. I know it’s difficult when you’ve been hoodwinked your whole life with church fathers and their word twisting shenanigans.
This is strange. He’s essentially saying that the Quran is preserved because one of the variants of the many is the original. But that’s indirectly what the Christians believe about their Bible. So how is one labeled as corrupted and the other as preserved?
firstly he never said so that's your understanding what he said is it's enough of one harf to be preserved to claim that a book is preserved and we have all ahroof preserved alhamdulilah secondly the christian never said so how even dare you compare preservation of Quran with bibles that's really funny
@@عادل-خ5ت you’re making a different argument. He mentioned two concepts that Islam follows for their definition of preservation, one of which he acknowledges and follows. His example was that there are two ways to recite the third verse. One being that the king of the day of judgment and the other being the possessor on the day of judgement. Those are two different recitation but as long as you have one of those variations the Quran is deemed preserved. How can that be so if those are two different recitations. I also never made the claim that this specific Christian said the Bible was preserved. I said Christian(s) indirectly believe that their Bible is preserved. The comparison is that the language is different but the message is the same.
@@LucaseyVision we have two opinions one opinion said about the definition of preservation is All harf must be preserved to say the book is preserved and one opinion says one harf preserved is enough and in all cases we have All ahroof preserved so by the definition of preservation of the two opinions Quran is preserved because till today we have the ahroof of Quran and for the way of recitations of the third verse of al fatiha what you just written is English translation of Quran not the Quran in Quran is the same verse but the different of ahrof meaning some recite in malik and some maalek No difference same Quran only the recitation is deffer and all of it taught by the prophet himself God reveled Quran in all the ways of Arabs tribe dialects and that's alone is a miracle
The Muslim argument is not that one of the variants is the original. The argument is that all of the variant readings are the Qur’an. We believe that the Qur’an was deliberately revealed with these variants.
Mohammad hijab is a funny Muslim ever and a big liar,, preservation means keep it as it is,,,,so now we have a Muslim agree that the quran is not perfectly preserve, waooow,,,
he said not in meaning but in the way they speak it cause in different Arab tribes the pronunciation is different..I guess you are here to learn as well.
We can't compare your second hand bibles to our preserved holy Quran with all of it's different modes of recitations christians couldn't preserve their book let alone if they may have modes of recitations for their book they would have got more confused about it than ever did with their today's copies and most likely they would have get them confused and conflated with each other imagine this they have one book called the injeel however multiple persons recorded the life of Jesus rather than the actual content of the gospel that Jesus preached and then later on they attribute what they wrote with their own hands to God Almighty in that sense their books can be compared to the fabricated or weak Hadith their book doesn't worth to be compared to our Quran and that's because of the meticulous preservation that the companions did to the Quran with all of its modes of recitations letter by letter word for word the thing here is that the christians won't understand and won't accept that the actual skeleton itself is preserved with it's different variations of reading according to what the prophet was reciting and what the companions had recorded and memorised directly from the mouth of the prophet so the actual Quran is one skeleton text with different modes of recitations according to the Arab tribes dialects and these variations are not considered with the Quranic content number of suras or the organization of these latter but it's all about the different wording that is being revealed by Allah to the prophet as a mercy for the Arab tribes that struggle with reading the Quran with the quraishi dialect so the Quran was revealed in such and such reading to accomodate with the dialects of the Arab tribes and the variations are concerned with the different wording that serves the same meaning or the different recitation of a specific word that's all what it is it is the same text with different modes of recitations or we call them in Arabic قواعد التجويد rulings of tajweed or rulings of recitations and there is a complete science that is dedicated to the Quran that deals with the authenticity of the Quran and how it was transmitted from person to person meticulously not like the bible or the Torah. The reason why the Quran today is printed into many copies is to facilitate the differentiation between a certain recitation because if they include all the recitations in one Quranic mushaf or book then they would have to gather them all in one mushaf that means the same Quranic skeleton or 'rasm' would be repeated many times with a certain variation then the size of the book and pages would be multiplied and it would be even bigger and difficult to even carrying it easily due to its size and the layman would struggle to read or to memorize it in that sense so what the Muslims did is that they repeated or copied the same Quranic text or skeleton or 'rasm' with each variation seprately in books and not in one mushaf to avoid the the issue that i already mentioned that's why the christians thought that we have versions while in fact they we don't have versions we have modes of recitations a version is when the actual content is different than of another copy contextually or textually and we the Muslims we don't have this issue like the christians or the Jews. PS: this information is known to every Muslim in the world it's not something that's it was hidden NO! There is a whole science dedicated to this specific subject and it is called Ilmu Al Qur'an علم القرآن.
@@Gaming343-c2p please our Bible is second hand ✋️ accepted,, ,,,,,,Your prophet put his hand on our Torah and swear and said l Mohammed believe in you as the Lord of God,,,,,,sunan Abi Daeud 4449 book 38 :4434) may the Lord forgive you fir saying that
@@sonofgod7099 show me the evidence come on show it to me iam waiting for you come on show it to me I bet you quote it from your delusional so called church father of his time David wood or the good old Jay Smith lol show me the evidence
@@sahihalbukhari-si1ji No, because the alternate/variant readings are part of the oral tradition of the Quran. But you wouldn't know anything about that, because your god didn't know how to transmit his exact words so that every future generation will benefit from them! But he still loves you though! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gurutruthspeak598 firstly allah did not speak to momo and give the revelation. Gibreel spoke to momo and gave him the quran No Gibreel no quran Gibreel is allah?
@@kM-ij2ly Do you recall how or where he does that? Are you able to quote him directly? Muslims take their Quran extremely seriously... We're not christians. We're not satisfied until every jot or tittle is the literal word of God, passed down through the generations using an impeccable method of transmission that stands the test of time. Do you understand who you're dealing with?
No he did not what he did is correcting the understanding of preservation we have ahroof of Quran Not one harf this is a basic ABC of quran every children know
@@عادل-خ5ت Bro there are too many videos of prominent dawah figures in the park using this”dot for dot, letter for letter” Mansur, hashim, hamza, even hijab himself used this before Don’t worry videos of their hypocrisy will arrive soon.
Lol The ahruf and qiraat are common knowledge My 7 year old nephew knows how to read in two different qiraat ie forms of pronunciation All of them are based on the uthmanic canonical text
Chris is great. The Doofus hijab was not able to effectively deploy his bully pulpit. In the end he was forced to concede. That handshake was gold. Hijab knows he’s been beaten. Throwing his dawah buddies under the bus in the process is the cherry on cake.
You’re joking right? We did see the same video where Hijaab schooled an idiot who had very little knowledge of what he was talking about and was quoting RUclips personalities as Islamic scholars? 😂😂😂 The problem with you morons is that you’ve got such a low standard in the Bible that you leave your brains out in every conversation. No Muslim has denied that there are no variants. We believe there are 7 modes to reading the Quran, all revealed by the Almighty, and all sanctioned by the Prophet. These 7 modes or 7 recitations or 7 variants as you would call them make up the 1 Holy Quran. Any one reciting one of these modes is not rejecting the others. The modes are all 99% the same with a slight variance in pronunciation and meaning of a few words. As Hijaab explained in 1 mode Allah describes Himself as The King of the World and in the other He describes Himself as The Ruler of the world. The modes complement each other because God even as you believe it, is both King and Ruler over all things. The modes never contradict each other as we see the hundreds of contradictions in the Bible. These complementary modes were revealed as a gift from God. We are proud of them. We never hide them. If you look at the whole picture, with the 7 modes, there is only 1 perfectly preserved Quran. I know it’s difficult when you’ve been hoodwinked your whole life with church fathers and their word twisting shenanigans.
What does that even mean lol. What is your point?? The bible as told to Jesus was in hebru but the first coppies are at least 100 years later in Greek via unknown authors. It was changed multiple times e.g. by king Henry so that he could get remarried and has at least 50 errors as agreed by non Muslim scholars. Where as there is physical carbon dated copies of the Qur'an being identical to the lifetime of the prophet within 24 years difference. Which is identical to the one we have today. If your saying the Qur'an is the graffiti on the walls, then the bible is the shit in the toilet as its litterly crap from humans, not the words of God haha.
Your Bible was in supposed to be Hebrew or Aramaic, then those parts got lost so they found some dusty Greek translation on the shelf and they had to translate that Greek into Hebrew and then that part got translated into English 😂😂😂😂
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Hijab: Let me explain
Chris: No, don't explain. Give me a quick yes or no answer because I really don't want to get found out.
NOTE : i bet he will read it and delete his comment , or read it and ignore the comment. 100%
@mejeff7478 no need to comment , sam dawah turns christian arguments of , and so do christian channels.
@mejeff7478 When did he belittling him? He perfectly answer about what is muslim scholar and who is the one who preserve the Qur'an. You mean when he ask who's muslim scholar chris referring about? When he answer the name of youtuber dawah instead of muslim scholar? So correcting means belittling to you? How weak your mentality are?
This was seriously painful to watch. I have never seen such an uneducated person have the audacity to challenge someone on a subject and then not have the basic knowledge that is taught to Muslim children in school.
Imagine if Hijab went one level deeper on the topic. This guys head would explode. 😆😆😆
they call hatun warrior of christ and a quran expert what do you expect from these people lol
He basically refer notes from david wood or other nonsense ppl...without actually learning from the authentic sources.
the pale guy has a thing for humiliation on camera he probably gets off from it.
@@josephine190 like Muhammad got off on six year olds
1.8 billion people bewitch today.
I can’t believe Chris literally said Dr Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat and Shabir Ally are “scholars of Islam” 🤦🏾♂️😂. I love these three brothers but which Muslim *let alone Muslim scholars* calls them “scholars of Islam”? Of all the Galaxy of scholars we have in Islam he chose those three? Where is Chris getting his information from? I know random RUclips videos and one book from Dan Brubaker
@@kM-ij2ly which Muslims say they are scholars? And which *actual* scholars say they are scholars? I agree Yasir Qadhi is a scholar but Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat and Shabir Aly scholars? I love them and they easily refute Christianity but they definitely are not scholars. I know you weirdos think Christian Princes, David “crossdressing” Wood, Jay smith, Sam “Hassamo” Shamoun etc are all scholars to you huh?
@@kM-ij2ly Yhh who? I never heard any Muslim say this and I’m a Muslim 😂
@@kM-ij2ly stop dodging which lay muslim or Muslim scholars said those three are scholars? Stop dodging and whining hurry up. And btw those three speakers refuted Christianity nicely anyway 😂
@@kM-ij2ly your feelings are not facts miss 1+1+1=1 but go off 🤣
@@kM-ij2ly bro stop using the multiplication explanation LMAO, it literally doesn't explain anything and you yourself have no idea what you're talking about when you use that
Jake the Muslim destroyed this awful argument already, stop rehashing
He’s trying so hard to ask questions and work his way around M Hijab but Hijab has an answer to everything for Chris.
Allah knows best.
So how come Allah said to Muhammad may Allah forgive your sins. Allah doesn’t m or if he will forgive Muhammad or not. 😂😂😂
@@MrBigo7510 did u take ur meds?
@@MrBigo7510 The phrase: *“May Allah forgive you”* doesn’t indicate that there is a lack of knowledge. 🤦🏽♂️
Which circus did you get this argument from? 😂
@@Kimeikus who is the one saying (may Allah forgive you). It seems your allah lack confidence and don’t know whether he will forgive Muhammad or not. Now compare that to Jesus when he spoke to the woman. Jesus said your sins are forgiven. Big difference.
Allah knows best… really his Quran fails in all circles of knowledge:
Science, health, history and Allah doesn’t know who he is!
If there isn’t anymore perfect preservation of the Quran then there are contradiction in your holy book… so you can’t know what Jesus really said.
So Christianity is true!
Come to Jesus!
You can tell this guy isn't sincere. He wasn't even paying attention to Hijab while he was answering and he insists on shotgun Yes/No Q&A because he knows that if a detailed answer is provided then he has nothing to work his sophistry into. What a disgrace.
And hijab was. Without lies Islam dies.
What are they saying? This video is way too long i dont even know the dilema. All it says in the quran is that this is a preserved reminder. And god knows best how its preserved. But it is indeed a quran preserved.
@@yn9637because a common point that even Mohamed hijab has made before is that the Quran is persevered word for word letter for letter. And as the bible isn’t it’s more likely to be corrupted. But im pretty sure there’s evidence it wasn’t well persevered early on
Muhammad was lying. He himself said before, what he is denying now.
Great fun reading the comments from the followers of Saul/Paul thinking 'Aha! We finally got something on Islam. The preservation thingy. Aha!' Sadly for them, the brothers and sisters in the comments section quickly and easily put that 'fire' out. :D
Oh we have got you you book is false. feel three to carrying believing a lie but don't expect us to
"For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity." SURAH YUNUS AYAT 64 (10:64 QURAN) WITH TAFSIR
The preservation of the quran is problematic for Islam. Al-lah says no one can change his word. In terms of a book written by man, that is a very bold statement. Uthman changed the words in the quran. He very clearly reduced it to one dialect of Arabic and then burned the evidence for any change. Fast forward to today and we have over 30 different Arabic versions of the one that Uthman had made. The issue is that now you have to redefine what changing Al-lahs word means. The previous scriptures are corrupted, but the quran is as good as gold. You will then point to verses that are left out, changes in spelling, books that are left out or included. Then go see you are finished, the corruption is self evident what these Muslims forget is twofold.
Firstly: every single definition used to make the Bible corrupt, also makes the quran corrupt. This kind of deception commonplace in Islam.
Secondly: the quran nowhere condemns the Bible corrupt. In order to come to this conclusion you need to reject the words of Al-lah and follow the teachings of the scholars
Muslims have over 30 different qurans with different words, giving different meanings and interpretations and they think Christians are the ones with the problem.
Either way you slice the Standard Islamic Narrative - the Quran is false! If you disagree with me then you need to address the Quran when it say no one can change my words…Allah?
Good luck
Come to Jesus
The only true saviour for humankind
جزاك الله خيرا
We claim that the Quran is the only scripture that has been preserved and all other scriptures have not. This can be proven by the fact that the other scriptures language that they were revealed in, Hebrew, Coptic Greek, etc, have become dead languages. If the language that the scriptures came down in are not preserved, how can they claim that those scriptures have been preserved? Hence, the Quran is the only scripture that can claim that it has been preserved.
Bro l think you don't understand our Christian faith and concepts,,,,, Our scripture was revealed not to one man in the cave,,,,,,wen study our way,,,,worship,,,,you will see,,how one is call prepared and commission in the kingdom of God,,,,,
@Son of Mary Are you saying that the languages that your earliest Bibles are in are not dead languages? Also, the language that Jesus pbuh (Aramaic) spoke, is not now a dead language? Dead language = dead religeon
That is a lie. The be Quran has been tampered
When you have a living language like Arabic that holds a religious text it creates problems. The most significant issue is when it comes to a change in the meaning of, or usage of a word or phrase.. changes in meaning or usage affect the interpretation and application of your “scripture” This affects how it was remembered and recited. this is the single most fundamental problem Islam faces. Is wasn’t completely memorised by anyone. It was put together like a jigsaw puzzle by people that had no business doing so. Muhammad gave no such instructions and it should never have happened. It then took hundreds of years later. A few hundred years later come the commentators then lastly we get the Islamic law.. all the time the Arabic language changes, which changes the meaning of the religious texts with additional meanings and meanings that have changed. That is why Arabic has words with the opposite meaning today, when the Quran was written it likely only had one. The many layers of meaning and usage creates issues of understanding that Christianity and Jews do not have. A dead language simply means that the meaning and usage of words do not change. Grammar and rules of the language are unchanging so the text can be easily understood, and translated into what ever language is wanted
In short a living language corrupts the text and meaning. A dead unchanging language preserves the text and meaning
A good example is when the muslim god preys for Muhammad. But to who does Al-lah preying to?
Another example is where where the author of the quran says Al-lah is one of, but is repeatedly translated as one, which goes against the meaning and usage of the word everywhere else in the quran.
Al-lah claims to be the best of deceivers. It is often translated as planers. Just means best at planning evil.
The single most important changed word is Islam. People are trying to convince us it means peace when it means surrender
@@986najes8 So my argument is how can the Christian and Jewish texts be preserved, when the language has not been preserved, I've they are dead languages. You can't really get around that! Pre Islamic Arabic was a rudimentary language and when the Qur'an came down, it took Arabic to a level that it had never been and has never been matched, even to this day. This in itself is a miracle, since the Prophet pbuh was unlettered. You have little understanding of how the Qur'an was memerised and how it was compiled. It was memorised in its entirety by Muhammad pbuh. He, in turn, taught it to the sahaba. Memorisation has never happened with the Christian and Jewish texts. The other problem is if the language of the original texts are dead, then we cannot fully interpret it's original meaning. As you said languages change, we would read those changes into the ancient text or lose it's meaning entirely. In Islam we have Hadith that refer to each verse of the Qur'an to clarify and add context to the verses. Christians and Jews do not have anything like this for their 'scriptures'.
In summary, even though Judaism, Christianity and Islam claim that their religious texts have been preserved, the Quran is the only one that has been preserved - and we haven't even got into how the Bible was changed, numerical errors and contradictions!
The elderly folks destroyed the atmosphere 😂😂😂
Imagine your book contain hundreds of contractions and changes and you shamelessly talking about the Quran 🙄
That Chris guy is very rude and arrogant. Couldn't handle being schooled!
@@kM-ij2ly
Imagine being completely ignorant of the subject matter you're there to discuss, incapable of listening to and repeating back the information presented to you, and then getting upset because your opponent thinks you're a moron!
christianity is like a psychotropic stimulant, and the dealer of this drug is the holy ghost!
Schooled by who? 😂😂😂😂
He surly doesn't ask the Jews why they killed his god tho 🤣
Muslims calling people arrogant and rude is like fish putting people down for being wet.
@@misshouda1740You mean your Prophet?
I don't know why Mohammad hijab didn’t say we can go both way i mean we have all variations today directly from prophet and one variation is enough for the word 'preservation'.
Because it would destroy the myth of perfect preservation. Nobody thought the Quran was perfectly preserved until the 1970s.
@@matt291 did you say Nobody????? Come on...!!..give me some scholars who didn’t believe quran was preserved
@@jeshanzeshan9505 Sahih Muslim 2286
Aisha also speaks about Sura 33 originally having 200 verses as well as the two missing verses regarding adult breastfeeding and stoning.
@@matt291 it doesn’t say anything like that....everything revealed from Allah is not quran....Allah told it to prophet which part of revelation will be part of quran or which part not......so making such claims and argument doesn’t work....
@@jeshanzeshan9505 clearly it says portions were forgotten, lost and destroyed. That means the Quran as it exists is incomplete.
Got jealous maybe since hundreds of his bibles not even one preserved and many contradictions too.
We can't compare their second hand bibles to our preserved holy Quran with all of it's different modes of recitations christians couldn't preserve their book let alone if they may have modes of recitations for their book they would have got more confused about it than ever did with their today's copies and most likely they would have get them confused and conflated with each other imagine this they have one book called the injeel however multiple persons recorded the life of Jesus rather than the actual content of the gospel that Jesus preached and then later on they attribute what they wrote with their own hands to God Almighty in that sense their books can be compared to the fabricated or weak Hadith their book doesn't worth to be compared to our Quran and that's because of the meticulous preservation that the companions did to the Quran with all of its modes of recitations letter by letter word for word the thing here is that the christians won't understand and won't accept that the actual skeleton itself is preserved with it's different variations of reading according to what the prophet was reciting and what the companions had recorded and memorised directly from the mouth of the prophet so the actual Quran is one skeleton text with different modes of recitations according to the Arab tribes dialects and these variations are not considered with the Quranic content number of suras or the organization of these latter but it's all about the different wording that is being revealed by Allah to the prophet as a mercy for the Arab tribes that struggle with reading the Quran with the quraishi dialect so the Quran was revealed in such and such reading to accomodate with the dialects of the Arab tribes and the variations are concerned with the different wording that serves the same meaning or the different recitation of a specific word that's all what it is it is the same text with different modes of recitations or we call them in Arabic قواعد التجويد rulings of tajweed or rulings of recitations and there is a complete science that is dedicated to the Quran that deals with the authenticity of the Quran and how it was transmitted from person to person meticulously not like the bible or the Torah. The reason why the Quran today is printed into many copies is to facilitate the differentiation between a certain recitation because if they include all the recitations in one Quranic mushaf or book then they would have to gather them all in one mushaf that means the same Quranic skeleton or 'rasm' would be repeated many times with a certain variation then the size of the book and pages would be multiplied and it would be even bigger and difficult to even carrying it easily due to its size and the layman would struggle to read or to memorize it in that sense so what the Muslims did is that they repeated or copied the same Quranic text or skeleton or 'rasm' with each variation seprately in books and not in one mushaf to avoid the the issue that i already mentioned that's why the christians thought that we have versions while in fact they we don't have versions we have modes of recitations a version is when the actual content is different than of another copy contextually or textually and we the Muslims we don't have this issue like the christians or the Jews.
PS: this information is known to every Muslim in the world it's not something that's it was hidden NO! There is a whole science dedicated to this specific subject and it is called Ilmu Al Qur'an علم القرآن.
@@Gaming343-c2pWe have manuscripts older than your religion.
You domt have many manuscripts because you burned them all since they had different variations
Chris: perfect preservation means no change in the Arabic, word for word, letter for letter
Hijab: that’s wrong, what scholar said that
Muhammad Hijab said this very thing no more than 12 months earlier. hypocrisy From the religion of hypocrites.
I’m sorry but I have to say, Chris got absolutely embarrassed here. He didn’t even know that Muslims accept that we have variant reasons 😂😂
Which is problematic
@@G_Singh222 😂😂😂 what? How😂?
Really it’s hard to understand truth when your Iman, teachers and scholars and these YT Dawads are constantly change what is true!
Don’t believe me Google Muhammad Hijab on Quran Prefect Preservation. And then tell me if Chris is wrong for his statements!!
@@G_Singh222 No it’s not problematic at all, those variations are just in way of the word is pronounced or read, in no way it changes the meaning.
@@shazzhussaynI’m Muslim and can confirm that it does change the meaning
Muhammad hijab himsef said that quran is pesereved letter by letter. Why is he asking for source now. I don't understand. Can someone clarify please?
Please watch whole video this one is edited, whole video is long more then one hour.
@@Milovan1 Does he explain in the full version his reason for asking for source when he himself said that Preservation is letter for letter?
Christian: “you are in a position of authority for Islam” 8:28.
Muslim “Yes. Yes, I am”.
10:10
Muslim “I’m not an Authority!”
*It does not matter if you throw your scholars under the bus*
Chris is such a troll, I can't see him as a even christian honestly.
How can a Christian dare compare the authenticity of the Quran to the Bible
We know where the Quran gets it stories from. Is from gnostic Christian stories and Jewish legions. Search it up. Your allah is just a figment of Muhammad illiterate mind. If you want to debate Quran vs Bible. Right here and now we can go ahead.
The blind sheep has faith like a lemming he'll jump of the cliff.
Easily we look at the manuscripts and we can see the variation in our text and understand what the original text would look like. Your third Caliphs Uthman destroyed the majority of your Quran so and made up what he thought should be in it.
Even then he had to rewrite it several years later. So the Muslim don’t have the original Quran there are at least 10 different qurans so that’s how we can.
Are you ok in the head?Uthman(RA) removed the other qirat of Quran (For your understanding basically accents or ways of speaking Arabic) as islam was speaking to non-arabic speakers and they were worried that they would differ on the religion.The Qirat that remained was the Qirat used by the tribe of the prophet(SAW).What rewriting are you on about@@FrankSantangelo-z4z
If I write you 7 notes and each one had a different pronunciation but said the same thing and you came back to me and said these notes are not perfectly preserved because they are 7 separate notes then you would be sent for a medical review...
Thats what Muslims claim tho, so stop changing the narative.
Plus there is also Qurans that have verses with different meanings
@@cramax4871no there aren’t an ENRICHING meaning is not a DIFFERENT meanig.
Man this is such a long topic, which is way easier to debunk verbally. But long story VERY short (and i’m doing it injustice, but still i do it for you).
•The Quran was sent in Arabic
•there were different Arabic tribes, and the Prophet (obviously) didn’t live in ALL of them, he lived in ONE of them.
•so the Prophet (peace be upon him) received Quran
•islam (&by extension Quran) spread to the other arabic tribes.
•they had a hard time with the dialect
•this is also the case with England and their english speaking countries (England-english, USA-english, Australia-English, Scotland-english, Scouser-english, Irish-english, australia-english)
•so they were complaining they had a hard time with the dialect, they couldn’t keep it up, because they have the NATIVE arabic tongue, it’s hard for then to adapt because they “grew up in their dialect tongue”
•ask a USA-english speaker to talk like a British speaker for 4 minutes, he’s going to butcher it, (think about “waaddduurr”&”woo’ahh” , “lift-elevator”, “tomeeyto”-“tomaaaato”)
So this news came to the prophet (peace be upon him) and then angle Gabriel came down and sent their dialect pleasing text to abide by, which is REVELATION from GOD, people didn’t make it up.
• then islam spread to OUTSIDE completely NON-arab speaking nations &tribes
• then there was confusion because one said “lift” and the other said “elevator”, so Othman (alongside all the other companions) decided to make a standardized version (that only left little space for accent adaptation (like “praayyvacy”-“Prie-vacy” for “pricacy”)
Thus, no corruption has taken place unlike the bible. this issue is literally baby level arguments when u present this to a scholar. Yet christian ad-revenue individuals seek to get paid on the back of islam, so they adress these issues to the leymen to get clicks, it’s sad really.
There is an older video that shows Mohammad Hijab saying quran persevered word for word, letter for letter and even vowels. Did he change his mind ?!
Yes, because that stance is hard to defend. Even im Hadiths you have many texts about how there are missing verses, differences etc etc
@@cramax4871this is what happens when an unlearned person reads for himself
@@MK-hw2ir Calling Hijabi unlearned is bit crazy
@@cramax4871 i’m talking about you
@@MK-hw2irit was Hijab that did a complete U turn
Wallahi Chris literally read one book of Dan Brubaker and thinks “yess I’m finally gonna debate every Muslim I see and refute Islam on this” 😂. Why doesn’t he concentrate on the clear errors and contradictions in his bible? We all know the answer to that question because Christian scholars *know* that the bible has errors and contradictions, so Chris is hurt by this and wants to refute Islam by saying the Qur’an has the same clear errors and contradictions like his bible. Good try Chris keep whining and crying about “Muslims are belittling me”. Well if you are gonna come to Muslims *especially the ones that are very knowledgeable* and act like a know it all person then we are gonna belittle you haha. So go and cry to your DCCI WhatsApp group 🤷🏾♂️
Well said. They know their book is corrupt. All they wish to do is somehow bring the Quran to their level of the Bible. Which is impossible.
@@kM-ij2ly
Which Quran? "Which" implies differences and a different source altogether...
Which christian out there has the evidence to support your claim of "which Quran" because you clearly do not.
Mohammed, he actually tried to explain that. Hijab simply rolled over it because he's an arrogant tool
@@gurutruthspeak598 the Quran is nonsense even if there are no variants🤦♂️
@@slsa915 bro talking about corrupt, then Islam doesn't exist. Cause you need to prove the corrupt Holy Bible to prove Islam is real
Now tell me, how many daughters does Allah have?
Such a beautiful schooling for Chris..... Fools lucky that he ain't paying for it🤣🤣🤣
Bro are you def did hear hear Mohammed hijab said the quran is not perfectly preserved,,
Son of God : exactly... hijab went from insulting Chris to actually listening. Why? Because he realized, to his dismay, that Chris knew what he was talking about. So he couldn’t just silence him like he does most others.
@@sonofgod7099
Are you intellectually disabled?
Did the holy ghost do this to you?
@@john9599
Chris knew what he was talking about?!
Wtf?! Did you actually watch this video?
The moron thought Shabbir Ali is a Quranic textual scholar!
How embarrassing is this joker? He must have the holy ghost!!!!
The same hijab that runs from Bob. You Muslims are so funny. You really believe God send a prophet to teach grown man how to pee.
May ALLAH SWT guide this gentleman to Islam..
InshaAllah
Where's the next one
My bad i found it
Trying so hard to make an issue out of nothing. The dude keep saying Disagreement among Sahaba! That’s a shame with what he knows to make such a claim. That is so hypocritical, covering the truth with attempt of planting doubts.
24:09 😂
Uncle just saying "La ilaha IllAllah" and that guys like the meme "Why are you running". Hahahaha
@@naimahmed3720 he s giving him a piece of his medecine . Subhanallah he s running away from " le illaha illa lah " which is ironic
6:00 what was the need to ask for a source for that claim? We do in fact believe that. Or am I missing something?
Because Muslims scholars have lately been getting exposed for this lie. So Im guessing now they are starting to change that belief slowly
"Its not adhominen its Ad hominem " what an utter fool Hijab made this guy look.
This man really named Zakir Naik, Shabir Ally and then Yasir Qadhi as ‘scholars’.
So who are your scholars at this moment if not them.
@@MrBigo7510 ur joking right?
@@MrBigo7510 u should be worried about who's. Paul. John Matthew
@@misshouda1740 really we now who they are! Tell me who Muhammad and his companions are without referencing the Hadith that were written 200 years after Muhammad and his companions.
And let’s not start making charges of Paul… because all we need to do is look at your sources which claim Paul was a follower of Jesus…
Like the Muslims do? Hypocrisy much?
Varience changes meaning that discrepancy not acceptable
I can’t believe the amount of deluded people in this comment section that actually think Hijab won this debate 😅, truly embarrassing
Couldnt agree more with you. Chris demoleshed Hijab
1. It was narrated that Abu Umaamah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever recites Ayatul Kursi immediately after each prescribed prayer, there will be nothing standing between him and his entering Paradise except death.”
2. Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: He who says, ‘Subhan-Allahi wa bihamdihi‘ (Glory and praise be to Allah) one hundred times a day, his sins will be obliterated even if they are equal to the extent of the foam of the sea. (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
3. Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet said:“There are two statements that are light on the tongue, heavy on the scales, and beloved to the Most Merciful: Subahana Allahi wa bihamdihi, Subhana Allahi Al-`Azeem (Glory and praise be to Allah, Glorified is Allah, the Most Great.)” (Al-Bukhari)
4. Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet said: He who repeats after every prayer: Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah) thirty-three times, Al-hamdu lillah (praise be to Allah) thirty-three times, Allahu Akbar (Allah is Greatest) thirty-three times; and completes the hundred with: La ilaha illallahu, wahdahu la sharika lahu, lahul-mulku wa lahul-hamdu, wa Huwa `ala kulli shai’in qadir (There is no true god except Allah. He is One and He has no partner. His is the sovereignty and His is the praise, and He is Omnipotent)Will have all his sins pardoned even if they may be as large as the foam on the surface of the sea.” (Muslim)
5. Zaid ibn Harithah narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Whosoever says: ‘Astaghfirullaha al-`Azeem al-ladhi la ilaha illa howa Al-Hayy al-Qayyum wa atubu illayh(I ask forgiveness of Allah, the Magnificent, than Whom there is no deity, the Living, the Sustainer of existence, and I turn to Him in repentance,) his sins will be forgiven even if he should have run away from the battlefield (while he was engaged in fighting for the Cause of Allah, which is a grave sin in Islam). (Abu Dawud and authenticated by Al-Albani)
6. The Prophet peace be upon him said "Whosoever recites Durood Sharief on me 10 times in the morning and evening, I will intercede for him on the day of Qiyamah." (TIBRANI)
7. Whoever reads Surah Ikhlas ten times, Allah will build a palace for him in Paradise. ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) exclaimed, “If that’s the case, then we will increase in our palaces!” The Prophet ? (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) responded, “Allah is better and greater (in reward).” [Ahmad]
8. Whoever reads Surat al-Kahf on Friday, it will act as a light/protection for him from one Friday to the next. [Bayhaqi]
9. Whoever performs their ablution carefully and then affirms (their faith by testifying): “Ash-hadu an laa ilaha il Allah wahdahu laa shareeka lahu wa anna Muhammadan `abduhu wa rasuluhu; Allahumma-ja’lni min at-tawaabeen waj-a’lni min al-mutatahireen”: ‘I testify that there is no true deity except Allah Alone, Who has no partners, and that Muhammad ? is His slave and Messenger; O Allah, make me from those who repent and purify themselves’ - the eight gates of Jannah are opened for him so he may enter through whichever of these gates he desires.[Tirmidhi]
10. Whoever says: “Radheetu billahi Rabba, wa bil Islaami Deena, wa bi Muhammad Nabiyya” - ‘I am pleased with Allah as my Lord, and with Islam as my Religion, and with Muhammad as my Prophet,’ Paradise would be (made) mandatory for him. [Abu Dawud]
11. Whoever asks Allah for Paradise three times (Allahumma inni as’aluk al-Jannah), then Paradise will say: “O Allah! Enter him into Paradise!” And whoever seeks protection with Allah from the Fire three times (Allahumma ajirni min an-Nar), the Fire will say: “O Allah! Protect him from the Fire!” [Tirmidhi]
12. Whoever is easy-going, gentle and kind, Allah will make the fire forbidden for him. [Hakim]
13. In Paradise there are rooms whose outside can be seen from the inside and the inside can be seen from the outside. Allah has prepared them for those who feed the poor, who are gentle in speech, who fast regularly and who pray at night when (other) people are asleep. [Ahmad]
14. Narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There is a soorah of the Qur’an, with thirty verses, that interceded for a man until he was forgiven; it is ‘Soorah Tabaarak Alladhi bi yadihi’l-mulk (Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the dominion)’ [al-Mulk 67:1].”
If you pass this on, It is Sadaqatul
Jaria. (meaning you keep on getting rewarded for it, every time someone acts upon it even when
you have died, until the day of judgement🤲🏽🤍).
Why do christians like chris come to Muslims to debate about Islam, when they really should be coming to learn about christianity?
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Why don’t you guys watch full 1 hour 😂😂😂😂
Hijab does not understand not all Muslims accept varrience only some school that it changes the meaning
26:25 hijab is just too funny🤣🤣🤣
Chris is the true disciple of deceiver Paul.
Is Zakir Naik a deceiver or not?
This fool Chris admits bible not been preserved at the begining but states that his religion doesn't need a preserved text.
Chris acting like a fool and pretend to be knowledgable. He needs to learn to walk before learn to run
Sorry, Hijab is lying in this video. Not mistaken but lying. He himself as well other most Muslims, believed that the Quran has 'been preserved, word for word, letter by letter, vowel for vowel'. His words. Any Muslims that says otherwise is lying to themselves not to anyone else.
When Christian’s disagree with criticisms of the Bible they go back to the Hebrew to settle it semantically. If there’s an original Quran, and also 9 deviations, you can still go back to the original. But literal discrepancies in physical texts are irrelevant to the argument. If the message doesn’t translate, doesn’t matter what lines are on the paper.
What are they even preserved in a quran that have no meaning .quran have no meaning to mean
TAQIYAH detected...😂😂
what is the last ayah revealed to mohammed?
Where is the original Koran? no muslim knows where it is.
Utham is greater that Allah he was able to burn Allahs word 😂😂😂
I can prove my Qur'an and show u original Qur'an which goes till the time of the prophet and it's the same
Can't say the same for the bible but I don't even care because u probably don't even know a single Arabic work
@@jackensonelissaint4778who the hell is Utham🤦🤷🏽♂️?
Hijab’s muslim shuffle is really good. Chris spoke facts Jesus is lord brother
It’s chris who’s literally making the most nonsensical claims and presents it as “a question no one has ever thought of before”😂😂😂 SCHOOLBOY
@@MK-hw2ir so let me guess it depends how you defined perfect? How does that even make sense isn’t perfectly preserved mean perfectly preserved or your idea of perfection changes? That’s the Muslim shuffle. Hijab literally says it depends on how you define perfect. What a clown. Without lies Islam dies. I edited to put in a timestamp for you. 18:05 🤣😂
@@MK-hw2ir so Hijab at 18:05 states the it depends how you define perfect. That’s the Muslim shuffle my friend. Perfect means perfect but to Hijab it means whatever he wants it to mean. 😂🤣 Tell me how that makes sense. I’ll wait.
@@franciscorodriguez1615 it is perfectly preserved, you’re missing the whole point of what this weasle chris was doing. He’s missing the fact that THE QURAN IS THERE IN IT’s ENTIRETY.
Let’s for example say, if God speaks, all the words are Golden. While when the human speaks, the words are grey.
The Qoran has COMPLETELY GOLDEN WORDS, what has been removed by othman ARE THE DIALECT SYNONYMS that were used for the elderly because they had problems with the dialect. (Like for example english people have with “Lift” & “Elevator” in USA) the elderly leyman who were newly introduced to islam couldn’t catch up. But later when islam began to spread to NON-ARABS, (who are not familiar with the different dialect tongues) there was misunderstanding taking place thinking there were DIFFERENT QURANS. So Othman removed the DIALECT issue and ONLY left the accent variation (like the english also have with “Woo’ah” and the American “waaaaduuurrr”.)
It’s the same.
This whole convo only proves more how precise the scholars have been in their preservation, we have all the names and biographies of the preservers of the Quran. While Christianity has been corrupted to the core, the vast majority of the biblical text is “grey words”, only a minority of sentences are “Golden words”.
This video strenghtened my faith even more on how Islam is on a different realm of existence compared to Paulianity is.
Bible literally has unknown authors who randomly got decided that their words carry some sort of validity according to who? Their own admittion😂 and matthew mark luke john who you know NOTHING of besided their names, no knowledge on whether they were trustworthy souls, and don’t even let me get started about Paul who destroyed the religion from within, and the fact that his words carry validity to be including IN THE LITERAL BIBLE, not even that alone, HIS words are given preference OVER LITERALLY JESUS CHRIST (peace be upon him) you can’t make this stuff up.
AlhamduliAllah for the blessing of al-islam♥️ pure monotheism without associating partners with God, that which Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) hated THE MOST in his lifetime
Chris has ADHD. He can't hold his concentration, or maybe it's frustration.
This Chris put himself in deep mud ,he is trying to run by lying ,this Chris is not sincere ,he wants to record a tape as part of his job, he still a enemy of islam faith ,he isn't her to discuss nor to learn, he never hear nor listen he is a talking machine , please brother Hijab just leave .
3mins The christian accuses MH of going on a "tirade".
"Tirade" - "a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation."
See how disingenuous and unjust he is.
Mimi your olden days scholars came 200yrs after your prophet.
The man in the glass ran like a little boy from Sam shommon because he destroyed the Quran
Hijab just makes up things as he goes along. Every Muslim does.
I think Chris & satun trash would make a lovely couple lol 😆 😂 🤣
That little boy is smarter than Chris
Hijab is too tall to be called a little boy.
Probably smarter than Allah and Muhammad. Who thinks satan pees in your ears. 😂😂😂
Muhammad Hijab the liar.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 they only agreeing now because they got caught out
jeez this was on my recommended and the tall guy got absolutely smacked
This guy Just Questions but don’t listen ans, do not try to understand at all.
M.Hijab did a really bad and damaging job here. He should’ve clearly stated that the Quran is perfectly preserved and is a letter to letter word of Allah. He shouldn’t try to explain the 7 Ahruf because we don't care. After all, they don’t affect the Quran's perfection. I recommend the channel’s owner remove this segment because M.Hijab provided several incorrect or misleading statements.May Allah guide him we all make mistakes but Dawa's mistakes should be corrected asap
That is not a scholarly opinion. Which authority did you get that from?
@@hatcher921 every single variant of the Quran today is perfectly preserved world to world from Prophet Mohammed
@@jazzjazz7627 Thats literally what he is saying. Chris is saying the fact that the variants exist decreases the legitimacy of the quran, while hijab is arguing otherwise saying that the seven variants are perfectly preserved. So i don't get your point when you are agreeing with hijabs pov
Subhanallah Allah make him disappear 26:47 😂
hhahahah..chris chris ahhahhah
Thats a agressive way of debating hijab thats not a way of inviting ppl to islam thats chasing them away very unfortunate hijab turned it into an argument subhanAllah so called daa'e
Brothers/sisters ! Hijab ! You neglecting a simple fundamental ...even though he is a great companion ,no one human is perfect in their memory ...there were at least 64 other memorizers that differed with his opinion and the latter OBVIOUSLY would be regarded as "perfect " preservation ...and that is our scholarly approach to all issues of our tradition and a very logical approach to anything in life
Chris, try to be open to actually learn and not to just defend Christianity by attacking Islam and being narrow minded. It’s ok to scrutinise Quran no worries but how can you still be Christian if you would apply the same standards to the bible?
Elon musk
Listen : Gaza is a open air prision.
5 min talking
23 min listen to
Hijab shot himself in the foot after allowing yasir qadhi on his podcast.
Chris does he re-watch his ignorant. You can't debate ignorant people because they don't understand fundamental of the debate at least knowledgeable people come up something everyone understand this young man don't know anything Arabic and he is trying to talk about
Again Allah pray foooooor....on live
BYe bye chriss find yourself and come back
He goes to every dai in the park.Trying to win a debate or arguements....just avoid this blind Christian.
HIJÁB JUST DISCOUNTED MANSOUR WITH HIS DOT FOR DOT AND WORD FOR WORD ARGUMENT....HAHAHAHA
No, he didn’t.
Calm down and watch the video again.
No the Quran is preserved word for word.
Quran is preserved dot for dot word for word and the difference dots and words have been revealed by god😊
@@MohammadQasim hahahahahahahahaha...you are truly a total clown..
Turn you capslock off...
The ignorance of this guy Chris. You are not there to debate, because as Hijab said you don’t have the knowledge to debate. You at most are there to ask questions and get answers but mostly you are there to be educated on the subject you broach. As Hijab said if you don’t know Arabic and you don’t know what the Muslim claim of the preservation of the Quran is then how can you even fathom debating. Simply my answer to people like you is ‘Lakum deenukum wa li-ya deen’
The reason it’s my answer because Allah educated me on how to deal with deceitful people like you.
this guuy just poiton like the other chirstian or atheist that says wanna learn but they just want to look "shortfall" of islam. he dont even know what he is talkin about.
Shabir Ally is better than you and YassirQadhi
Doesn't look like hijab is missing any meals during this "fast"🤔
11:55
Based on Mimi's logic Allah is unjust for for revealing his final message in Arabic. A lot us and Muslims don't speak or understand it. Why did we not receive guidance in our own native languages.
It is because during each revelation it was primarily sent to a nation or region. Arab was having the darkest period of humanity and there Allah had decided to deliver it which to be conveyed everywhere. People would always have argue why it is not in their language. If one can learn a language for worldly sake of communication or benefits, learning some basic of Arabic is not a big deal. Besides, you have translations and interpretations in many languages already, It is just an excuse of a corrupt heart to find a flaw where is none.
I hope you understand that these languages are inspired by Allah.
Arabic was prepared for the final revelation.
@@Kimeikus Wow, smart answer. You must be a scholar.
@@africanprophet4039 What? 😂
mohammed hijab got destroyed
Hijab destroys !slam @10:50 by saying "Preservation is not that there's no variants". Thankyou Hijab for being the first mzlm in 1400 years to admit that quran is not perfectly preserved.
Historic moment.
Here s another chris
@@pandanigg4 Do you disagree with momo Hijab statement "Preservation is not that there's no variants" ?
Yes or No
@@sahihalbukhari-si1ji variants are from god so yes preservation includes the variants lol. Whereas the variants in the bible are not from god but from men + they contradict and have fabrications
The problem with you morons is that you’ve got such a low standard in the Bible that you leave your brains out in every conversation.
No Muslim has denied that there are no variants. We believe there are 7 modes to reading the Quran, all revealed by the Almighty, and all sanctioned by the Prophet. These 7 modes or 7 recitations or 7 variants as you would call them make up the 1 Holy Quran.
Any one reciting one of these modes is not rejecting the others. The modes are all 99% the same with a slight variance in pronunciation and meaning of a few words. As Hijaab explained in 1 mode Allah describes Himself as The King of the World and in the other He describes Himself as The Ruler of the world. The modes complement each other because God even as you believe it, is both King and Ruler over all things. The modes never contradict each other as we see the hundreds of contradictions in the Bible. These complementary modes were revealed as a gift from God. We are proud of them. We never hide them. If you look at the whole picture, with the 7 modes, there is only 1 perfectly preserved Quran.
I know it’s difficult when you’ve been hoodwinked your whole life with church fathers and their word twisting shenanigans.
ure just as much of a fool as the guy in the vid hahahahah
ya donki xD
This is strange. He’s essentially saying that the Quran is preserved because one of the variants of the many is the original. But that’s indirectly what the Christians believe about their Bible. So how is one labeled as corrupted and the other as preserved?
firstly he never said so that's your understanding what he said is it's enough of one harf to be preserved to claim that a book is preserved and we have all ahroof preserved alhamdulilah secondly the christian never said so how even dare you compare preservation of Quran with bibles that's really funny
@@عادل-خ5ت that literally the same thing hypocrite
@@عادل-خ5ت you’re making a different argument. He mentioned two concepts that Islam follows for their definition of preservation, one of which he acknowledges and follows. His example was that there are two ways to recite the third verse. One being that the king of the day of judgment and the other being the possessor on the day of judgement. Those are two different recitation but as long as you have one of those variations the Quran is deemed preserved. How can that be so if those are two different recitations. I also never made the claim that this specific Christian said the Bible was preserved. I said Christian(s) indirectly believe that their Bible is preserved. The comparison is that the language is different but the message is the same.
@@LucaseyVision we have two opinions one opinion said about the definition of preservation is All harf must be preserved to say the book is preserved and one opinion says one harf preserved is enough and in all cases we have All ahroof preserved so by the definition of preservation of the two opinions Quran is preserved because till today we have the ahroof of Quran
and for the way of recitations of the third verse of al fatiha what you just written is English translation of Quran not the Quran in Quran is the same verse but the different of ahrof meaning some recite in malik and some maalek No difference same Quran only the recitation is deffer and all of it taught by the prophet himself God reveled Quran in all the ways of Arabs tribe dialects and that's alone is a miracle
The Muslim argument is not that one of the variants is the original.
The argument is that all of the variant readings are the Qur’an. We believe that the Qur’an was deliberately revealed with these variants.
Hijab running
Mohammad hijab is a funny Muslim ever and a big liar,, preservation means keep it as it is,,,,so now we have a Muslim agree that the quran is not perfectly preserve, waooow,,,
he said not in meaning but in the way they speak it cause in different Arab tribes the pronunciation is different..I guess you are here to learn as well.
We can't compare your second hand bibles to our preserved holy Quran with all of it's different modes of recitations christians couldn't preserve their book let alone if they may have modes of recitations for their book they would have got more confused about it than ever did with their today's copies and most likely they would have get them confused and conflated with each other imagine this they have one book called the injeel however multiple persons recorded the life of Jesus rather than the actual content of the gospel that Jesus preached and then later on they attribute what they wrote with their own hands to God Almighty in that sense their books can be compared to the fabricated or weak Hadith their book doesn't worth to be compared to our Quran and that's because of the meticulous preservation that the companions did to the Quran with all of its modes of recitations letter by letter word for word the thing here is that the christians won't understand and won't accept that the actual skeleton itself is preserved with it's different variations of reading according to what the prophet was reciting and what the companions had recorded and memorised directly from the mouth of the prophet so the actual Quran is one skeleton text with different modes of recitations according to the Arab tribes dialects and these variations are not considered with the Quranic content number of suras or the organization of these latter but it's all about the different wording that is being revealed by Allah to the prophet as a mercy for the Arab tribes that struggle with reading the Quran with the quraishi dialect so the Quran was revealed in such and such reading to accomodate with the dialects of the Arab tribes and the variations are concerned with the different wording that serves the same meaning or the different recitation of a specific word that's all what it is it is the same text with different modes of recitations or we call them in Arabic قواعد التجويد rulings of tajweed or rulings of recitations and there is a complete science that is dedicated to the Quran that deals with the authenticity of the Quran and how it was transmitted from person to person meticulously not like the bible or the Torah. The reason why the Quran today is printed into many copies is to facilitate the differentiation between a certain recitation because if they include all the recitations in one Quranic mushaf or book then they would have to gather them all in one mushaf that means the same Quranic skeleton or 'rasm' would be repeated many times with a certain variation then the size of the book and pages would be multiplied and it would be even bigger and difficult to even carrying it easily due to its size and the layman would struggle to read or to memorize it in that sense so what the Muslims did is that they repeated or copied the same Quranic text or skeleton or 'rasm' with each variation seprately in books and not in one mushaf to avoid the the issue that i already mentioned that's why the christians thought that we have versions while in fact they we don't have versions we have modes of recitations a version is when the actual content is different than of another copy contextually or textually and we the Muslims we don't have this issue like the christians or the Jews.
PS: this information is known to every Muslim in the world it's not something that's it was hidden NO! There is a whole science dedicated to this specific subject and it is called Ilmu Al Qur'an علم القرآن.
@@Gaming343-c2p please our Bible is second hand ✋️ accepted,, ,,,,,,Your prophet put his hand on our Torah and swear and said l Mohammed believe in you as the Lord of God,,,,,,sunan Abi Daeud 4449 book 38 :4434) may the Lord forgive you fir saying that
@@sonofgod7099 show me the evidence come on show it to me iam waiting for you come on show it to me I bet you quote it from your delusional so called church father of his time David wood or the good old Jay Smith lol show me the evidence
Historic moment in !slam. Hijab admits "Preservation is not that there's no variants"
WT...?! Are you drunk?
@@gurutruthspeak598 Do you disagree with Hijab statement "Preservation is not that there's no variants"
@@sahihalbukhari-si1ji
No, because the alternate/variant readings are part of the oral tradition of the Quran.
But you wouldn't know anything about that, because your god didn't know how to transmit his exact words so that every future generation will benefit from them!
But he still loves you though! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gurutruthspeak598 firstly allah did not speak to momo and give the revelation.
Gibreel spoke to momo and gave him the quran
No Gibreel no quran
Gibreel is allah?
@@kM-ij2ly
Do you recall how or where he does that?
Are you able to quote him directly?
Muslims take their Quran extremely seriously... We're not christians. We're not satisfied until every jot or tittle is the literal word of God, passed down through the generations using an impeccable method of transmission that stands the test of time.
Do you understand who you're dealing with?
Hijab abandoning the perfect preservation argument after it was used in the park for years.
Hijab to destroy Islam again
No he did not what he did is correcting the understanding of preservation we have ahroof of Quran Not one harf this is a basic ABC of quran every children know
@@عادل-خ5ت
Bro there are too many videos of prominent dawah figures in the park using this”dot for dot, letter for letter”
Mansur, hashim, hamza, even hijab himself used this before
Don’t worry videos of their hypocrisy will arrive soon.
Lol
The ahruf and qiraat are common knowledge
My 7 year old nephew knows how to read in two different qiraat ie forms of pronunciation
All of them are based on the uthmanic canonical text
We believe that the Ahruf is a part of the prefect preservation 🤦🏽♂️
C’mon, you can do better than this.
@@TheRockeyAllen
lol it’s not hijab himself didn’t even know when he interviewed sheik yasir qadhi.
Looool stop lying bro.
Chris is great. The Doofus hijab was not able to effectively deploy his bully pulpit. In the end he was forced to concede. That handshake was gold. Hijab knows he’s been beaten. Throwing his dawah buddies under the bus in the process is the cherry on cake.
You’re joking right? We did see the same video where Hijaab schooled an idiot who had very little knowledge of what he was talking about and was quoting RUclips personalities as Islamic scholars? 😂😂😂
The problem with you morons is that you’ve got such a low standard in the Bible that you leave your brains out in every conversation.
No Muslim has denied that there are no variants. We believe there are 7 modes to reading the Quran, all revealed by the Almighty, and all sanctioned by the Prophet. These 7 modes or 7 recitations or 7 variants as you would call them make up the 1 Holy Quran.
Any one reciting one of these modes is not rejecting the others. The modes are all 99% the same with a slight variance in pronunciation and meaning of a few words. As Hijaab explained in 1 mode Allah describes Himself as The King of the World and in the other He describes Himself as The Ruler of the world. The modes complement each other because God even as you believe it, is both King and Ruler over all things. The modes never contradict each other as we see the hundreds of contradictions in the Bible. These complementary modes were revealed as a gift from God. We are proud of them. We never hide them. If you look at the whole picture, with the 7 modes, there is only 1 perfectly preserved Quran.
I know it’s difficult when you’ve been hoodwinked your whole life with church fathers and their word twisting shenanigans.
Holy heck! what the hell am I reading?! The unholy ghost has inspired you to total madness!!! No other way to explain the bat-shit crazy garbage here!
Mo Hijab is brilliant. Chris is a Islam and Muslim hater.
Whatever makes you sleep vetter....
malc Y what the hell is vetter? Are you German? If you are you spelt it incorrectly. Nice try though.
What happened to the verses of the Quran eaten by a goat.Wich satanic verses were abrogated.
Abdoll running and shuffling the subject
The Bible was translated to English in 1532 and read by genius for centuries. The quran is the equivalent of graffiti in a public toilet
What does that even mean lol. What is your point?? The bible as told to Jesus was in hebru but the first coppies are at least 100 years later in Greek via unknown authors. It was changed multiple times e.g. by king Henry so that he could get remarried and has at least 50 errors as agreed by non Muslim scholars.
Where as there is physical carbon dated copies of the Qur'an being identical to the lifetime of the prophet within 24 years difference. Which is identical to the one we have today.
If your saying the Qur'an is the graffiti on the walls, then the bible is the shit in the toilet as its litterly crap from humans, not the words of God haha.
@@TheDragonaf1 It means what it says.. The Bible is the work of Genius, the quran is sewage, the stupidest book in history.
Your Bible was in supposed to be Hebrew or Aramaic, then those parts got lost so they found some dusty Greek translation on the shelf and they had to translate that Greek into Hebrew and then that part got translated into English 😂😂😂😂