How would you compare this to the BetaFPV Meteor 65? I'm leaning towards the Mobula6 and converting to BT2.0 connectors with 350mah batteries. Thanks for all your reviews!
@FredGlover This is lighter, higher performing and has a better camera. Downside is this board is very new and I always worry about long term use. I have about 100 flights and it has been very solid. But that is only one. I have requested 4 more boards to get a larger sample.
I bought a few of these, thinking I would need spares, a little over a year ago. I've been flying the same one the entire time with minimal frame damage and I've changed one prop. I fly it inside and outside. I've purposely taken it out in the wind and it still flies like a champ. I have a whole bunch of tiny whoops but the Mobula 6 is the one I grab just to go out and play. It's the best.
You crack me up Nick. Sure...like you, I enjoy the pod-style flying too where everything is whizzing past at light speed. The difference though is that I can keep that up for about 2.5 seconds before I've dramatically crashed into something frightfully hard, well you can keep up that kind of flying indefinitely (or dang close!) LOL
I am 00:21 seconds in and had to post: YEAH!!!! Finally Nick could put his hands on the Mobula6 and it looks awesome! Ok, back to watching the video...
I put the Happymodel 0802 19,000 kv motors with the same Gemfan 3 blades on my Uruav UR65. I am very happy with the combo. 4 minute flights! Great job Nick!
But when you fly for that long, you have to fly to 3.2 V, but that is damaging the batteries pretty hard or not? I thought you should only fly to 3.5 V so they dont get damaged.
@hilo4321 this is also true. I don't often suggest it as I can't verify what commenters might be doing, so if its off we both should be sure. It isn't always wifi but its something that can be at play.
@@hilo4321 your can also force the channel that your router runs. Might cause compatibility issues with devices on your network. If the wifi is using just one channel and you live in a city type area (with other wifi) atleast you know how to avoid your wifi
@@NickBurnsFPV Not yet, but there's hope; I bought a Mobula6 and am now flying low over the kitchen bench. :) This is very addictive. Awesome review, BTW.
Just got mine yesterday wow it's the best 1s whoop I've flown to date. Loving it. I upgraded to BF 4.1.1 legacy with the JESC 48khz FW and it's so so smooth on default settings. I have a 6 port parallel charger and can say the last couple of days it's been getting a hell of a workout.
Hi Nick Great video and review of the Happymodel Mobula 6, WOW that looked great, I am always amazed at how you fly through your house. When we put my parents house up for sale I would go down and fly around but the house was empty, and I would have broken everything in your house. But Im definitely getting one. Thanks again for the information.
so should i sell my mobula7 and get this one instead? with the 2500kv motors i guess? i have a larva x too so i dont think i need a inbetween like the mobula7. Would you agree?
I find The 65mm format is best for house flying. If you are lucky to have barn or warehouse then 75mm format is great. The Mobula7 outside might still be better than larva x for really close proximity, small back yard, children's playground though? Each of these has its own place, the question is do you fly in those environments.
@@NickBurnsFPV Your house sir is a mansion! Here in the UK our houses are shoe boxes by comparison. Nick, if the kids go away with your wife and you have some friends over for whoop racing around your house please do consider posting a video, would be great to see 🏁
hi Nick , i'm a newbie in FPV drone . i've try to check my pid on beta flight , but i cannot setup the p i d . is show a black color,and i cannot change the value inside it . i use beta flight 10.8.0 . how i can change the pid value ? im using mobula6 Hd
If the numbers don't appear in the PID page I suspect something is wrong with the betaflight configuration application. I would uninstall betaflight configuration application, reboot the computer. Download betaflight configuration application again and reinstall.
So what is the better motor for acro please?? I'm sorry if it was mentioned. I read through a ton of comments. I'm trying to get my order in asap with rdq. Ty
Mine is on order from Banggood and I’m waiting for it to come off processing, been a few days. Hoping it’ll come to me early in the new year, but I’m in Australia and they usually take about a month.
Thanks for the review I have 4 of the 19000kv on preorder. I've got a bunch of students learning to whoop race. I thought they'd be a nice upgrade from our fleet of 615 brushed whoops.
nick i've been looking a whoop or not , something small to fly fpv in backyard or my shop , but there's only 6000 different ones out there lol.. have a couple 5" quads and my knowledge of whoop is slim .. what are your picks ? small yard like yours ,
I wouldn't do a whoop outside, they best whoop (2incher) is a pretty modest flyer outside. I would look at something like the vanta2.5 I recently reviewed or the larva x or the hx100 or hx115.
Thinking only about 50 yards outside? I realize it is intended for indoors, but my house is tiny! lol I still think this is a great deal for any indoor flyer, but I'm interested in a good whoop that has a bit more weight and range. I'm always impressed with your piloting skills...great video!
Will the 25000kv variant provide much more punch for light freestyle flying or should I stick with the 19000kv for more flight time? Also have you flashed JESC on your mob 6 25000kv? Has it increased your flight time? Thanks again nick for another great review!!
I'm new in Fpv. Which Fpv goggles and which RC do you recommend for this drone? Something cheap would be awesome. Which info should I use to find goggles and RC if I know the drone to use them with?
I think the pads might be for external rx. Here is the wiring diagram. www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2019/11/22/crazybee-f4-lite-1s-flight-controller-for-tiny-whoop-fc-esc-rx-vtx-4in1/
I got the 25000 kv version of the mobula 6, would you consider upgrading the battery connector to the new bt2.0? Absolutely love this quad and really don't fancy burning it up
Hey Nick, so I feel like for most 65mm whoops, the ph2.0 solid pin is probably plenty... but for this 25000kv, would the BT2 or gnb27 make a difference? Most of my whoops flying 65mm frames are running ph2, whereas I have been swapping my 75mm whoops and other 1s stuff to bt2.0 and gnb27.
There will be a benefit over ph2.0. We know that the ph2.0 connector creates battery resistance which decreases performance and flight time. To maximize either a bt2.0, gnb27 will have a benefit, the benefit might be small depending on the demands of the quad.
Man that little guy rips! Can’t wait till digital shrinks down this far.. surprised you’re getting video reception from upstairs to downstairs.. haven’t flown analog since the dji system came out.. might go back to it for this!
Just found your videos today, Scary Fast and Awesome! I'm starting with FPV Tinywhoops - can't find the X4 Charger, what would you recommend for a charger if the X4 is not available?
Nice review, I'm debating between getting this one or the BeeBrain Brushless. Will there be a review for that one? The NewBeeDrone BeeBrain Brushless??
Best means expensive generally. I would start with used equipment. Get some fatshark hdo goggles for cheap and an frsky x lite...not the current year model the older model, or buy a jumper t16 radio. Then add a charger, for 1s I use the one at the end of the video. Do you research on the equipment sellers...for sure.
Sorry for the noob question but the ESCs are rated for 5amp 6 burst but in your osd your always over that. Is that a overall amps then u have to divide by 4 to get the per esc. Thanks and love the channel. U should do audio books lol
So If i want a whoop for indoor racing, should i get the 19000kv ? I see the 25000kv version a Little bit overpower, more like a 2s whoop; for indoor flight . Maybe the sweet spot is the 22000kv
is there anyway to increase bat life? i had a moblite and it got fried and i cant return mobula... do u recomend weight reduction, and whatnot? i have 19000kv with 4.35V betafpv batteries, i get 2m and 30seconds flighttime and i want better motors..
often with ph2.0 battery connection the connection itself is worn out, on one or both ends. BT2.0 and GNB27 is a much better micro connector. Also battery quality and care play a substantial role.
Tried all those already with no luck. Most have the 300s but not 350s. Guess I will just need to keep my eyes out for them. Got a m6 in route. Looking forward to going plaid with it! Thanks Nick.
I have a bunch of emax 450 mh batteries. Would these work for any version of the mobula 6? If so, would the speed and flight time be better? Thanks for the review.
The battery tray doesn't natively fit that size of battery. We would have to either mod the battery tray or find another way to keep the battery mounted to the quad.
Do you think this bears a mobula 7 with a throttle curve set at 75% ?? I love my mobula seven and have no problem flying it in side so is this smaller one even worth it the o my thing I see that’s better is the fact that it takes one lipo instead of two
Nick Burns I’ve never been able to fly with anyone cause no one around me flys so racing isn’t a option for me so looks like ima just stick with the m7 as like you said I like to feel like I’m flying a old racer and the 65mm just doesn’t get that same affect for me as a 75mm so thank you for your time would love o see a comparison review of the two and the pros of cons cause i know I can’t be the only one wondering if I should get it
So seeing you ripping this thing like that... whats up with the PW2.0 thing? Is it not needed at all? Would this improve if you chage the connector to PW2.0? Mylipo is releasing PW2.0 connectors soon
Thanks for the way you contribute to the hobby! Nice review. Waiting for delivery of mine :) Looking forward to your experience with the BT2.0. I have a few of those to try as well.
What are you running as your remote? I’m trying to get into the hobby a lot more and I’m look for a good remote that will work I currently have a dx6i but I don’t think it would work
This is the next generation whoop. The all in one board weight savings really make a difference. Finally, a product not by BetaFPV !!! I'm still all good with my Mobula7's on 1S for indoor, but this looks promising !!!
While I haven't done it my self. We generally have two uarts on aio whoop boards. We can use one for an elrs rx. The soldering on these boards is super tiny though. I have done it a few times, be careful of using to much solder it can bleed over to another pad.
Just picked up a mobula 6, i have a literadio. It seems the mobula is binding via d8 but nothing is happening. It seems my Tx isnt doing anything on betaflight either. All protocols on betflight are correct. Im stumped.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yessir protocol is set correctly. Even tried d16, Radio came with the tyro 79s kit. Labeled as a "lite radio" so maybe its out of date? But id assume fr sky d8 is fr sky no matter what.
@@maxpane657 The d8 protocol hasn't changed in years and year. Only recently has the protocol change for frsky d16. I suspect we either don't have one or both in d8 mode when binding
If I could I would wait. I suspect we will see a new version with elrs come out soon. They kinda already released one, but the motor size and kv wasn't good. I think there will be another version yet.
Mu mobula 6 just fell all out the sky and it doesnt want to arm anymore. How do I check whats the problem with it? Can i check in beta flight what the main issue is?
Hey Nick, just looking into FPV. What transmitter and googles would you recommend for this? Probably not going to get in too deep, but want something that can be used if I step up a level.
i like that. I wanna see you do the bt2.0 conversion asap, because I was thinking the same thing as soon as i saw the title and clicked the link to watch the video. The camera is way better than the one on the mobula 7. No yellow tinge, or weird glow around the lights. I like the way it performed as well. I'm probably going to get this in the 19k kv option, and do a bt2.0 convert. You say gnb is the battery to use? When is ship date anticipated to be?
@@i.v.2824 Boy its close, but I do think I prefer 2s in my house. I think if my space where smaller or less flight path friendly I would prefer mobula 6.
I have a problem when i have a full battery and i arm it flys away like my throttle is all away down but it flys away! It will do this for a while until the battery goes down a little it starts to act normal. The arm minimum is 5.5 so I dont know what could be the problem. Thanks
same gauge wire is fine. One tip is to have the other end of the connector connected while doing to the soldering. This keeps the copper connectors in place while heating/soldering.
Hi Nick, can you recommend any 2s batteries from banggood with the XT30 connector around the 500mah more or less that nicely fit the eachine trashcan? Cheers.
I would go GNB the best performing, lightest and most economical batteries for micros. In this case the 450mah should fit. I don't have the trashcan anymore. We can cut the battery tray off and run a strap through to run any battery :)
D16 does work, but it requires a version of opentx and radio firmware. My x-lite pro is stuck in EU mode. Need to get it going again. using the original x-lites still.
@@cinialvespow1054 the x lite pro doesn't do d8 mode, which has been the most reliable mode for these boards with spi receivers. Even in d16 mode if the x lite pro doesn't have the necessary version of opentx it might not bind to it in d16 unless updated. We can switch the binding mode in betaflight on the configuration page from frsky_x to frsky_d or the otherway around. The switching doesn't necessarily over come the radios limitation of binding. Also new x lite pro firmward adds the ability to use a module to bind in d8 mode....something like the uruav tmx5lite module.
Hey Nick, Is banggood already shipping out the mobula 6? Cause im wondering why all the reviews pop up on youtube but they are still on preordering process on each site
Hey Nick. Do you know whether or not the GNB 1s 350mah battery would fit the M6 and if so would it add too much weight? I have it in my basket for pre-order.Thanks a bunch and have a great day my friend
I was looking at your video from the Eachine E010 $15 whoop you posted about three years back....and now, compare that to this...CRAZY how much progression the fpv world has taken!
No or not really. This is analog, there is a kit to add that to the dji goggles. Otherwise I believe the dji goggles are dependent on the airwave dji vtx. I think...I don't have a set to try or confirm.
Can someone explain to me the differencec between this 1S battery and the 1S batteries that are for toy drones, like the syma x5. Is it just the connectors or the whole entire battery are different?
You were definitely going faster than normal, Thats the 1st thing I noticed before you said anything. Its so amazing how far theyve come in the 2 years Ive been flying fpv. My 1st brushed whoop hovered at just under 50 percent, I still have it, and it weighs 30.9 grams without a battery, lol with everything that light I think Ill get one to experiment with a tiny toothpick frame. Is it a regular size whoop fc? With a 16X16 AIO fc I bet I could make a tiny one. (actual toothpicks for a frame,lol)
Nick, I’m looking to buy a frysky radio and need some direction., can you point me in the right direction. Ill need the radio and transmitter seeing I’m coming off the spectrum systems I’m not sure at all what to buy....thanks
I would either get the previous versions of frsky radios or a jumper. The issue is new frsky radios don’t do d8 mode which we need for most of these all in one boards. Jumper makes good radios as well. The T16 seems like a really good radio
@@TheHelicapt Is that the yellow one? If so its a good one I had it on the channel, the menu is a bit different, it runs or did run deviationtx which I am used to but many aren't. Its no harder than opentx to learn. The form factor is smaller than most standard radios, but I like a smaller radio makes reaching the inside of the stick positions easier.
Nick, maybe you can offer me your opinion on what to do now.. I have a Flsky version of this FC. When I got it it took me forever to get it into bind mode. The bind button would not work.. Eventually it worked once.. Well it came un-bound somehow, and I can't get it back into bind mode... Can you tell me what color the lights are when in bind mode please? And do you know, do I have to be holding the button while powering up?? Or can I just push it after, like with crossfire?? I am hoping like last time on about the 1,000th time trying it will work.. It would help greatly knowing what color blinks I am looking for.. Thank you for your time, Mike
This is the manual www.happymodel.cn/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Happymodel-Mobula6-flysky-edition-1s-brushless-whoop-Manual.pdf the red light is the only light indicating binding status. Note you can also use the "bind_rx" or "bind_rx_spi" in the cli to enter bind mode. yes the button needs pressed and held down when applying power.
see the wiring map in the smaller pictures on the lower section of images www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2019/11/22/crazybee-f4-lite-1s-flight-controller-for-tiny-whoop-fc-esc-rx-vtx-4in1/
I have been told the coupon has been used up. Previously I was told it was good through the month/year. Looks like it is too popular to maintain the coupon. 😖
It sounds like we could, but I am not familiar with that frame. As long as it has mounting for the typicaly whoop style board and 3 hole mounting pattern for the motors it should work
Acro, I have been working on getting better at stabilized modes, but its just not as much fun and I am not very good at stabilized flight. Where did you order from?
has it always been this way? Approximately how many flights has it had? And debris in the motors? Might need to replace the battery lead the connectors wear down over time.
@@NickBurnsFPV no it hasn't always been this way. I used to get > 2 min flights. I've flown it maybe 40 times but I've had. Couple of nasty crashes. I'll check out the battery lead and motors for debris. Thanks so much for reply Nick!
Just bought a mobula6 and....... It came with a 4 point canopy! Had to check online as I manage to pick up some interesting stuff qc misses, and it looks like the mob 6 now shios with a 4 point canopy. 😜👍
What do you think? Is there a better BNF whoop?
Mobula6 bit.ly/MOBULA6
X4 Charger bit.ly/2RNav9O
My original us65 board needs to die already so I can get this. I never realized how team happymodel I was till this came out and they did it again.
How would you compare this to the BetaFPV Meteor 65? I'm leaning towards the Mobula6 and converting to BT2.0 connectors with 350mah batteries. Thanks for all your reviews!
@JankyFPV They iterate so fast and seem to have new product constantly.
@FredGlover This is lighter, higher performing and has a better camera. Downside is this board is very new and I always worry about long term use. I have about 100 flights and it has been very solid. But that is only one. I have requested 4 more boards to get a larger sample.
there's a better battery connector now, that's for sure! what's rich is this TRUE all in one board. ridiculous! #gramShavers
I bought a few of these, thinking I would need spares, a little over a year ago. I've been flying the same one the entire time with minimal frame damage and I've changed one prop. I fly it inside and outside. I've purposely taken it out in the wind and it still flies like a champ. I have a whole bunch of tiny whoops but the Mobula 6 is the one I grab just to go out and play. It's the best.
no words for the speed and control man > awesome
Thank you
You crack me up Nick. Sure...like you, I enjoy the pod-style flying too where everything is whizzing past at light speed. The difference though is that I can keep that up for about 2.5 seconds before I've dramatically crashed into something frightfully hard, well you can keep up that kind of flying indefinitely (or dang close!) LOL
First 30 seconds: Holy shit dude, leave some rip for us!
I am 00:21 seconds in and had to post: YEAH!!!! Finally Nick could put his hands on the Mobula6 and it looks awesome! Ok, back to watching the video...
Relatively new to the channel, first time seeing Nick fly through his house. Holy. Shit. Wow. LMAO
I think I could practice flying my tiny whoop for a thousand years and I'd never fly that well. My jaw is still on the floor.
Ah it just takes time, I fly indoor almost every day...part of my pre bed routine.
@@NickBurnsFPV :) You're too modest! I showed my 9 year old the clip and she had a similar reaction to me. lol
@@DrMacca I am glad you both enjoyed it.
@@DrMacca Go simu !
Liftoff (or Velocidrone) is your friend !
You're a madman! Great flying. Digging the blue backlight!
I put the Happymodel 0802 19,000 kv motors with the same Gemfan 3 blades on my Uruav UR65. I am very happy with the combo. 4 minute flights! Great job Nick!
But when you fly for that long, you have to fly to 3.2 V, but that is damaging the batteries pretty hard or not? I thought you should only fly to 3.5 V so they dont get damaged.
"Turn off your Wifi"! 🤦♂️ I wish I'd thought of that ages ago lol. Thx Nick
Look up the FPV Frequency Chart, and find the channel farthest the wifi. Will help a lot without turning it off entirely.
@hilo4321 this is also true. I don't often suggest it as I can't verify what commenters might be doing, so if its off we both should be sure. It isn't always wifi but its something that can be at play.
@@NickBurnsFPV good point, I probably shouldn't say it like it's a fact, haha. Helped me a lot though!
@@hilo4321 your can also force the channel that your router runs. Might cause compatibility issues with devices on your network. If the wifi is using just one channel and you live in a city type area (with other wifi) atleast you know how to avoid your wifi
At 0:05 my coffee cup stopped halfway to my face and I just sat and marvelled at the speed and the skill!
Hopefully none was spilled :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Not yet, but there's hope; I bought a Mobula6 and am now flying low over the kitchen bench. :) This is very addictive. Awesome review, BTW.
@@johanbergkvist8834 Thank you
Just got mine yesterday wow it's the best 1s whoop I've flown to date. Loving it. I upgraded to BF 4.1.1 legacy with the JESC 48khz FW and it's so so smooth on default settings. I have a 6 port parallel charger and can say the last couple of days it's been getting a hell of a workout.
How's the flight time?
Im getting 3:00+ on stock batteries. Not really good enough to fly an entire pack without crashing into something though lol
Hi Nick Great video and review of the Happymodel Mobula 6, WOW that looked great, I am always amazed at how you fly through your house. When we put my parents house up for sale I would go down and fly around but the house was empty, and I would have broken everything in your house. But Im definitely getting one. Thanks again for the information.
so should i sell my mobula7 and get this one instead? with the 2500kv motors i guess? i have a larva x too so i dont think i need a inbetween like the mobula7. Would you agree?
I suspect this one is more indoor friendly...depending on the space.
I find The 65mm format is best for house flying. If you are lucky to have barn or warehouse then 75mm format is great. The Mobula7 outside might still be better than larva x for really close proximity, small back yard, children's playground though? Each of these has its own place, the question is do you fly in those environments.
@@1LittleTinker yes I agree in most regards. 75mm 2s in a house like ours is good fun too.
@@NickBurnsFPV Your house sir is a mansion! Here in the UK our houses are shoe boxes by comparison. Nick, if the kids go away with your wife and you have some friends over for whoop racing around your house please do consider posting a video, would be great to see 🏁
hi Nick , i'm a newbie in FPV drone . i've try to check my pid on beta flight , but i cannot setup the p i d . is show a black color,and i cannot change the value inside it . i use beta flight 10.8.0 . how i can change the pid value ? im using mobula6 Hd
If the numbers don't appear in the PID page I suspect something is wrong with the betaflight configuration application. I would uninstall betaflight configuration application, reboot the computer. Download betaflight configuration application again and reinstall.
What would you recommend for outdoor drone flying that has hoops around the propeller..... For a brand new beginner
Hey my mob 6 19000 kv is only getting like 3:30 min of flight time on 48khz. Do I need to oil the motors?
I wouldn't think so, 3:30 is way more than I got.
Is their weight difference between the 19000kv and the 25000kv version?
none or within the margin of error for my scale
@@NickBurnsFPV okay, thanks!
So what is the better motor for acro please?? I'm sorry if it was mentioned. I read through a ton of comments. I'm trying to get my order in asap with rdq. Ty
so gooooood~~ I'm going to choose between mobula6 and meteor65
Which do you like better?
Mobula6 not even close
I only have a small house so I will stick with my ur65, looks really fast for a 1s I wish I had more space
Mine is on order from Banggood and I’m waiting for it to come off processing, been a few days. Hoping it’ll come to me early in the new year, but I’m in Australia and they usually take about a month.
Any idea if Banggood will start stocking some spares for this drone?
I believe they have spare parts listed, search for mobula 6 it should turn up the components. I don't know when or if the parts are in stock
Thanks for the review I have 4 of the 19000kv on preorder. I've got a bunch of students learning to whoop race. I thought they'd be a nice upgrade from our fleet of 615 brushed whoops.
I think the camera experience will be much more positive than the previous cams we have been using...pretty amazing little camera.
nick i've been looking a whoop or not , something small to fly fpv in backyard or my shop , but there's only 6000 different ones out there lol.. have a couple 5" quads and my knowledge of whoop is slim .. what are your picks ? small yard like yours ,
I wouldn't do a whoop outside, they best whoop (2incher) is a pretty modest flyer outside. I would look at something like the vanta2.5 I recently reviewed or the larva x or the hx100 or hx115.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
About "pod racing"... That gave me ideas... 🤔
Thinking only about 50 yards outside? I realize it is intended for indoors, but my house is tiny! lol
I still think this is a great deal for any indoor flyer, but I'm interested in a good whoop that has a bit more weight and range. I'm always impressed with your piloting skills...great video!
Beta 85 pro 2.
Will the 25000kv variant provide much more punch for light freestyle flying or should I stick with the 19000kv for more flight time? Also have you flashed JESC on your mob 6 25000kv? Has it increased your flight time?
Thanks again nick for another great review!!
Higher kv will have more top end, but less on the bottom end. I have a 65mm like the mobula 6 with jesc, it does increase flight time.
I'm new in Fpv. Which Fpv goggles and which RC do you recommend for this drone? Something cheap would be awesome. Which info should I use to find goggles and RC if I know the drone to use them with?
I would look at the jumper radios and the Eachine EW30 goggles. I have a review on the goggles.
How old does it fly outside with a bit of wind
depends what mph a bit of wind is. I would say anything over 10mph is not going to be fun but rather a fight. Less is better.
I see two ground pads next to the RX antenna? If so, solder on a 2.4GHz shielded one and wrangle it outside through the back or something!
for much improved range!
I think the pads might be for external rx. Here is the wiring diagram. www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2019/11/22/crazybee-f4-lite-1s-flight-controller-for-tiny-whoop-fc-esc-rx-vtx-4in1/
Thanks Nick to answer to all questions ! What is the best battery you would recommend for the Mobula6 25KKV ?
The ones I use in the video gnb 350 or 300
I got the 25000 kv version of the mobula 6, would you consider upgrading the battery connector to the new bt2.0? Absolutely love this quad and really don't fancy burning it up
I will be working on a bt2.0 version. The connectors only just arrived. Much to do right now with the holidays and family.
Hey Nick! Do you still think the Mobula 6 Holds up after 2 years? Or are there other drones that perform/cost better or evenly as this one?
The main change in whoops is more powerful vtx. The moblite 6 is lighter with a 200mw vtx.
Hey Nick, so I feel like for most 65mm whoops, the ph2.0 solid pin is probably plenty... but for this 25000kv, would the BT2 or gnb27 make a difference? Most of my whoops flying 65mm frames are running ph2, whereas I have been swapping my 75mm whoops and other 1s stuff to bt2.0 and gnb27.
There will be a benefit over ph2.0. We know that the ph2.0 connector creates battery resistance which decreases performance and flight time. To maximize either a bt2.0, gnb27 will have a benefit, the benefit might be small depending on the demands of the quad.
Man that little guy rips! Can’t wait till digital shrinks down this far.. surprised you’re getting video reception from upstairs to downstairs.. haven’t flown analog since the dji system came out.. might go back to it for this!
lol. Our house and the position I sit in has a large impact on video reception. If I sit in another room my reception isn't as good.
Nick, what is the strobe light on the ceiling in the one-room when you were flying dark, pretty cool!
That might be Christmas lights from outside
Just found your videos today, Scary Fast and Awesome! I'm starting with FPV Tinywhoops - can't find the X4 Charger, what would you recommend for a charger if the X4 is not available?
That is some great flying!!!! I would be interested to know what rates you are using?
pretty high rates. Pitch and roll 1.20 and super of .75, yaw is 1.30 and super of .80
Nice review, I'm debating between getting this one or the BeeBrain Brushless. Will there be a review for that one? The NewBeeDrone BeeBrain Brushless??
I do have a beebrain brushless on the way, but with the holidays and ongoings I don't expect to have the review out until next month.
@@NickBurnsFPV it's all good, I appreciate your channel it and your work. Thank you! Also happy holidays!!
@@marcomendez5487 NBD brushless arrived tonight. I still don't expect to get it out until next month. Happy Holidays to you and your family!
New to this - but wow, this is unreal! Question, for a newbie what controller/goggles would you recommend in order to get the best out of this drone?
Best means expensive generally. I would start with used equipment. Get some fatshark hdo goggles for cheap and an frsky x lite...not the current year model the older model, or buy a jumper t16 radio. Then add a charger, for 1s I use the one at the end of the video. Do you research on the equipment sellers...for sure.
Sorry for the noob question but the ESCs are rated for 5amp 6 burst but in your osd your always over that. Is that a overall amps then u have to divide by 4 to get the per esc. Thanks and love the channel. U should do audio books lol
So If i want a whoop for indoor racing, should i get the 19000kv ? I see the 25000kv version a Little bit overpower, more like a 2s whoop; for indoor flight . Maybe the sweet spot is the 22000kv
Some whoop races have qualifiers of four laps, depends if we can get 4 laps with 25kmotors. I would think so but I have raced in a whoop race event
is there anyway to increase bat life? i had a moblite and it got fried and i cant return mobula... do u recomend weight reduction, and whatnot? i have 19000kv with 4.35V betafpv batteries, i get 2m and 30seconds flighttime and i want better motors..
often with ph2.0 battery connection the connection itself is worn out, on one or both ends. BT2.0 and GNB27 is a much better micro connector. Also battery quality and care play a substantial role.
Hey Nick. Great review as always. Where do you get those gnb 350s with extension lead? Can’t find them. I’m in Canada.
Try amazon rotorgeeks.com rotorvillage.com snhobbies.com. About the only places I can think of for Canada
Tried all those already with no luck. Most have the 300s but not 350s. Guess I will just need to keep my eyes out for them. Got a m6 in route. Looking forward to going plaid with it! Thanks Nick.
no voltage sag with the ph2 ?post another video soon with the bt2.0 connector on this tiny......🔥
I ordered a hand full of connectors and more batteries.
That charger you are talking about would be great if it let you do storage charge.
yes, storage is still an outlier for 1s. I have no idea why that one feature is always left out.
@@NickBurnsFPV 😪
Is there any US supplier selling the battery charger? I will not buy from China anymore... Thanks
I have a bunch of emax 450 mh batteries. Would these work for any version of the mobula 6? If so, would the speed and flight time be better? Thanks for the review.
The battery tray doesn't natively fit that size of battery. We would have to either mod the battery tray or find another way to keep the battery mounted to the quad.
Do you think this bears a mobula 7 with a throttle curve set at 75% ?? I love my mobula seven and have no problem flying it in side so is this smaller one even worth it the o my thing I see that’s better is the fact that it takes one lipo instead of two
Couple variables there. If we race and they only allow 65mm then we have to conform. If not and the m7 is working well for you then no
Nick Burns I’ve never been able to fly with anyone cause no one around me flys so racing isn’t a option for me so looks like ima just stick with the m7 as like you said I like to feel like I’m flying a old racer and the 65mm just doesn’t get that same affect for me as a 75mm so thank you for your time would love o see a comparison review of the two and the pros of cons cause i know I can’t be the only one wondering if I should get it
So seeing you ripping this thing like that... whats up with the PW2.0 thing? Is it not needed at all? Would this improve if you chage the connector to PW2.0? Mylipo is releasing PW2.0 connectors soon
PW2.0? I am not familiar with that connector. Mylipo.com isn't coming up tonight...website must be down.
@nickburnsfpv can you still recommend this whoop for my first tiny whoop for in and outdoors?
Yes, it's still a solid option for both indoor and outdoor....and its available unlike the new mobula 6 2024 edition...largely backordered
If you are still in the market for a 65mm whoop I'd now get the Air65 from betafpv, extremely lightweight and handles very well.
Thanks for the way you contribute to the hobby! Nice review. Waiting for delivery of mine :) Looking forward to your experience with the BT2.0. I have a few of those to try as well.
Please post a vid of your experiments! I think mobula6 25000kv may see benefit, not quite so much with 19000kv version
What are you running as your remote? I’m trying to get into the hobby a lot more and I’m look for a good remote that will work I currently have a dx6i but I don’t think it would work
I have used a few over the years. I prefer smaller gamepad style radios. Currently I use the radiomaster zorro.
This is the next generation whoop. The all in one board weight savings really make a difference. Finally, a product not by BetaFPV !!! I'm still all good with my Mobula7's on 1S for indoor, but this looks promising !!!
Great video!! Can a elrs EP1 be added to this quad? Thanks.
While I haven't done it my self. We generally have two uarts on aio whoop boards. We can use one for an elrs rx. The soldering on these boards is super tiny though. I have done it a few times, be careful of using to much solder it can bleed over to another pad.
Just picked up a mobula 6, i have a literadio. It seems the mobula is binding via d8 but nothing is happening. It seems my Tx isnt doing anything on betaflight either. All protocols on betflight are correct. Im stumped.
Does betaflight on the quad show it’s set for frsky_d, it’s either on the receiver page or the configuration page
@@NickBurnsFPV Yessir protocol is set correctly. Even tried d16, Radio came with the tyro 79s kit. Labeled as a "lite radio" so maybe its out of date? But id assume fr sky d8 is fr sky no matter what.
@@maxpane657 The d8 protocol hasn't changed in years and year. Only recently has the protocol change for frsky d16. I suspect we either don't have one or both in d8 mode when binding
Great flying! Is there any way to adjust the color saturation on the Nano 3?
Because of the newer Frsky radios running ACCST 2.0 do you think its still worth buying this?
If I could I would wait. I suspect we will see a new version with elrs come out soon. They kinda already released one, but the motor size and kv wasn't good. I think there will be another version yet.
I just picked one of these up!! She’s so tiny! 😺 little winter ripper👍
Great video Nick, for 1S awesome, just on that charger mate does it put the ph2 batteries into storage as well
The charger does not do storage. I am not aware of any 1s charger that does storage charging.
Wow you got awesome reflex😀 Hopefully you do update vid after you change the connectors?
I plan to have a separate bt2.0 vid
Mu mobula 6 just fell all out the sky and it doesnt want to arm anymore. How do I check whats the problem with it? Can i check in beta flight what the main issue is?
Yes check betaflight for the setting it came with. Check to make sure it bound and don’t fly below 3volts
Hey Nick, just looking into FPV. What transmitter and googles would you recommend for this? Probably not going to get in too deep, but want something that can be used if I step up a level.
Did we get this answered on facebook?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes sir! Thank you for your awesome and detailed help!! Can't wait to order by stuff and give it a try!
i like that. I wanna see you do the bt2.0 conversion asap, because I was thinking the same thing as soon as i saw the title and clicked the link to watch the video. The camera is way better than the one on the mobula 7. No yellow tinge, or weird glow around the lights. I like the way it performed as well. I'm probably going to get this in the 19k kv option, and do a bt2.0 convert. You say gnb is the battery to use? When is ship date anticipated to be?
GNB and Mylipo are the best of the market. I do believe GNB is cheaper.
@@NickBurnsFPV you like this better than your 7?
@@i.v.2824 Boy its close, but I do think I prefer 2s in my house. I think if my space where smaller or less flight path friendly I would prefer mobula 6.
I have a problem when i have a full battery and i arm it flys away like my throttle is all away down but it flys away! It will do this for a while until the battery goes down a little it starts to act normal. The arm minimum is 5.5 so I dont know what could be the problem. Thanks
Check the endpoints of the radio in betaflight. Be sure they are at 1000 and go to 2000 with the mid point being at 1500.
Hi Nick! I'm converting my Mobula6 to A30 connector, as all my PH2.0 cells are dead. Any tips? Can I keep the same gauge wire? Thanks!
same gauge wire is fine. One tip is to have the other end of the connector connected while doing to the soldering. This keeps the copper connectors in place while heating/soldering.
been a while getting back to it. will this bind with a jumper radio? got rid of my taranis radios
Yes jumpers have a mulitprotocol module
Hi Nick, can you recommend any 2s batteries from banggood with the XT30 connector around the 500mah more or less that nicely fit the eachine trashcan? Cheers.
I would go GNB the best performing, lightest and most economical batteries for micros. In this case the 450mah should fit. I don't have the trashcan anymore. We can cut the battery tray off and run a strap through to run any battery :)
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the fast reply, i will order two of them using your links 👍
@@deant6627 Thank you. I appreciate it.
How does it compare to a Tinyhawk S? It's being a really hard choice for a new micro
for inside flight performance mobula6 hands down.
@@NickBurnsFPV does It even compare to the smoothness of the tinyhawk? Flew one and It blew my mind
@@RafaelKravchychyn smoothness, maybe because the tinyhawk s is slower and carries more weight. That also makes it less agile.
crazy flying. where'd you get your sectional sofa in your living room? thanks
Thank you. I think we got it from an Ashley furniture store.
No DSMX... dang it. I have a Spektrum TX.
*Ahh RDQ has DSMX version! Ordered. When will they be shipping?
They shipped the 1st batch, I would expect another batch shortly after christmas.
Does this one you are flying have a Flysky rx or Frsky? Do you think It would make a difference for range?
I don't expect the protocol to change range but it could, I only have the frsky to test.
Thanks for the response. Really like your content. I also live in the mid west
If you want the same fight time as the 19,000kv on your 25,000kv set the motor output limit to 76% and throttle limit 76%
sweet kwad!!
where does one get those "loom bands"? looks like its perfect size for helping to hold aio in place on a whoop...thanks!
I think I got them from ebay..search for loom bands or loom bandz.
Only thing stopping me from ordering one is I’ll probably need an external module to fly it with my X-Lite Pro. Nick, any luck running D16?
Support D16 on X-lite pro
D16 does work, but it requires a version of opentx and radio firmware. My x-lite pro is stuck in EU mode. Need to get it going again. using the original x-lites still.
@@cinialvespow1054 the x lite pro doesn't do d8 mode, which has been the most reliable mode for these boards with spi receivers. Even in d16 mode if the x lite pro doesn't have the necessary version of opentx it might not bind to it in d16 unless updated. We can switch the binding mode in betaflight on the configuration page from frsky_x to frsky_d or the otherway around. The switching doesn't necessarily over come the radios limitation of binding. Also new x lite pro firmward adds the ability to use a module to bind in d8 mode....something like the uruav tmx5lite module.
Hey Nick,
Is banggood already shipping out the mobula 6? Cause im wondering why all the reviews pop up on youtube but they are still on preordering process on each site
yes they have been shipping, not only from banggood but other vendors to. They go fast so it appears its constant preorder.
Hey Nick. Do you know whether or not the GNB 1s 350mah battery would fit the M6 and if so would it add too much weight? I have it in my basket for pre-order.Thanks a bunch and have a great day my friend
That is the battery I used in this video.
I was looking at your video from the Eachine E010 $15 whoop you posted about three years back....and now, compare that to this...CRAZY how much progression the fpv world has taken!
yes for sure, brushless has brought new levels of performance.
Hi, could I buy DJI goggles and use them with Mobula7 too?
No or not really. This is analog, there is a kit to add that to the dji goggles. Otherwise I believe the dji goggles are dependent on the airwave dji vtx. I think...I don't have a set to try or confirm.
I keep watching this video again just to watch your flying! So good man 👍
Same. Watched it 3x.
Can someone explain to me the differencec between this 1S battery and the 1S batteries that are for toy drones, like the syma x5. Is it just the connectors or the whole entire battery are different?
Often other than the connectors the batteries are a higher discharge capable, and therefor pack more performance.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks
You were definitely going faster than normal, Thats the 1st thing I noticed before you said anything. Its so amazing how far theyve come in the 2 years Ive been flying fpv. My 1st brushed whoop hovered at just under 50 percent, I still have it, and it weighs 30.9 grams without a battery, lol with everything that light I think Ill get one to experiment with a tiny toothpick frame. Is it a regular size whoop fc? With a 16X16 AIO fc I bet I could make a tiny one. (actual toothpicks for a frame,lol)
It is a normal whoop mounting board pattern.
Hi Nick. Have you made the switch to jesc yet and if so what were your findings?
I have tried it, but not switched in terms of all my quads needing it.
Nick, I’m looking to buy a frysky radio and need some direction., can you point me in the right direction. Ill need the radio and transmitter seeing I’m coming off the spectrum systems I’m not sure at all what to buy....thanks
Buy a jumper...
I would either get the previous versions of frsky radios or a jumper. The issue is new frsky radios don’t do d8 mode which we need for most of these all in one boards. Jumper makes good radios as well. The T16 seems like a really good radio
Nick Burns
Thanks. How’s that lite model radio ?
@@TheHelicapt Is that the yellow one? If so its a good one I had it on the channel, the menu is a bit different, it runs or did run deviationtx which I am used to but many aren't. Its no harder than opentx to learn. The form factor is smaller than most standard radios, but I like a smaller radio makes reaching the inside of the stick positions easier.
Nick Burns
Gotcha. Thanks. I might do the jumper T16
Nick, maybe you can offer me your opinion on what to do now.. I have a Flsky version of this FC. When I got it it took me forever to get it into bind mode. The bind button would not work.. Eventually it worked once..
Well it came un-bound somehow, and I can't get it back into bind mode... Can you tell me what color the lights are when in bind mode please? And do you know, do I have to be holding the button while powering up?? Or can I just push it after, like with crossfire?? I am hoping like last time on about the 1,000th time trying it will work.. It would help greatly knowing what color blinks I am looking for.. Thank you for your time, Mike
This is the manual www.happymodel.cn/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Happymodel-Mobula6-flysky-edition-1s-brushless-whoop-Manual.pdf the red light is the only light indicating binding status. Note you can also use the "bind_rx" or "bind_rx_spi" in the cli to enter bind mode. yes the button needs pressed and held down when applying power.
It says 3.8 volts on the batterie. Am i only allowed to charge them to 3.8V and not 4.2?
We can safely charge to 4.2, I charge 1s batteries to 4.35v.
Hello Nick having trouble getting betaflight to see my new mobula 6 from racedayquads latest configurator
Does the board light up when you plug it in? Do you have other quads that can connect to betaflight?
@@NickBurnsFPV yes
@@volman13n0 yes, the board lights up or other quads connect to betaflight?
Is it possible to add an external receiver on it? R-xsr for example?
yes, there is a wiring diagram on happymodel.cn website.
see the wiring map in the smaller pictures on the lower section of images www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2019/11/22/crazybee-f4-lite-1s-flight-controller-for-tiny-whoop-fc-esc-rx-vtx-4in1/
Hi , can you tell me , this realtime fly video is use Everyine EW30 to record ? or ? tks!
I am not using the EW30, but we can use this quad with the EW30.
@@NickBurnsFPV OK，because your realtime video is very clear , can you tell me you use what kind goggles ? tks
@@吳先生-l4z I use skyzone 03O goggles bit.ly/34fc6LQ
Nick great review!! As always, just letting you know your BG coupons won't for myself in Canada, I think i might have to wait for a sale
I have been told the coupon has been used up. Previously I was told it was good through the month/year. Looks like it is too popular to maintain the coupon. 😖
Could you swap the frame and use the TurboBee 66R Micro frame with the same motors, flight controller and camera?
It sounds like we could, but I am not familiar with that frame. As long as it has mounting for the typicaly whoop style board and 3 hole mounting pattern for the motors it should work
Thanks. I might give it a go
I just trashed my mobula 7. Do you have a current best whoop video. Or what is your recommendation?
I currently favorite the mobula 7 1s elrs. There really isn't a replacement bnf 2s whoop on the market I would suggest. 1s performance has improved
Do you fly full Acro mode? Or is this Angle or Horizon mode? Thanks for the video. Ordered one because of this.
Acro, I have been working on getting better at stabilized modes, but its just not as much fun and I am not very good at stabilized flight. Where did you order from?
@@NickBurnsFPV that's awesome. I ordered from banggood.
Nick I'm at my wit's end. My Mobula 6 is getting
has it always been this way? Approximately how many flights has it had? And debris in the motors? Might need to replace the battery lead the connectors wear down over time.
@@NickBurnsFPV no it hasn't always been this way. I used to get > 2 min flights. I've flown it maybe 40 times but I've had. Couple of nasty crashes. I'll check out the battery lead and motors for debris. Thanks so much for reply Nick!
I have a bunch of 450 mah TinyHawk II batteries. Would they work in this?
They would fit in the battery tray, we would have to make a modification.
Looks sweet. I just got a Tinyhawk S it’s fun. It’s main downfall is the camera, which I will be upgrading to a runcam nano.
Just bought a mobula6 and.......
It came with a 4 point canopy!
Had to check online as I manage to pick up some interesting stuff qc misses, and it looks like the mob 6 now shios with a 4 point canopy. 😜👍
Nice they decided to move to their new canopy.
Pure cool, Nick. Which Goggle and Module do you used?
I use the skyzon 03O with stock module.
Hi Nick!
Thanks for your yet another great review!
What will be your 1S best whoop to buy today? Nov-2020
In the 1s 65mm format it would be the mobula 6 for racing or the newbeedrone acrobee for more freestyle of flight.
Eachine ae65 destroy mob6
Hi Nick! I have a question. Could you please explain which one is newest? Mobula 7 HD or 6 HD? I didnt find any info of this....
first was the mobula 7, then mobula 7 hd, then mobula 6 then mobula 6 hd.
Thank you for answer Nick!