I agree with your 50k limit. Toyota is pricing themselves of the picture for most folks with the new generation. I also feel the 3rd gen had the perfect amount of tech for me.
I had a 3rd gen and now have a '24 TRD Sport Premium...it is a better truck in every way, basically. I especially love the added tech personally...so I guess ymmv. It is expensive though...no argument there...
Just bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier pro4 x loaded with all kinds of features and a sunroof plus spray in bed liner for 40,000. First ever Nissan ; feels solid and well built. I don’t have too worry about the turbo blowing out on it. I am not a brand loyalist and yes I owned a 3rd generation Tacoma but this underrated truck beats this current Tacoma generation. Why buy any of these 4 Cylinder turbos trucks if all I am going to get is another 1 gallon or 2 MPG combined it makes no senến.
That's why I bought the last 2023 v6 offroad before they went turbo. A few mods, and you got all the truck you'll ever need. Fully loaded for only 47,000 You gotta have good foresight.
I agree that 50K is way too much for a mid size truck. And I don’t want a Half Breed because the battery is under the back seat and it takes up all the storage in the back seat and I use the under seat for storage. And I still don’t trust having a battery inside the cabin area
I didn’t leave Toyota. Toyota left me. Had to buy something, 2010 rusted frame Taco. Loved it but couldn’t wait any longer for safety. Minimum needs are V6 and absolutely no turbos!
@@RobMotive 2024 Frontier Pro4x. Miss my Taco and this truck is a whole different vehicle. I wish everyone the best on the new Taco’s and Toyota has a reputation for usually working it’s trouble’s out but it just isn’t for me and we still have our ‘21 4 runner and ‘18 Rav4.
Appreciate your honesty, I think you’re spot on. If I was in your shoes, I’d keep the Tacoma too, just roll with it and enjoy it until something else you like comes along, don’t go backwards to the previous generation, that ship has sailed. You don’t seem like the type of owner that abuses vehicles so you should be good. Your vehicles are cherry as they say. Any problems come up, you know Toyota will take care of it. I know lots of people who would love to have your Tacoma but they just can’t afford it. Good video.
A TRD Sport for over $60K is criminal. That dealership is marking it way up. MSRP for a TRD Offroad Premium i-Force Max is about $57K. It's still above your $50K limit, but not the criminal over $60K. Call out that dealership.
It's like Clint said; "A mans got to know his limit." That's the problem now days too many don't plan their finances wisely. It's smart to have a set dollar amount. The most important dollar figure when making a new vehicle purchase is the 'Out the door price' not the payment amount, not the term. Finance office people don't like me, I won't buy anything from them, take a 1200.00 ceramic coating for example they're selling them, crazy.
I am like you, I planned on getting a new one, but I currently have a 21 trd-off road that has the 6-foot bed and every option that was available in 21. To get the same setup in a new one would be dumb money so I am going to keep mine for years to come. Also, there is no way would I step down in options just to get a new one, once you have all those features it is hard to give them up.
I’m keeping what I got. My 2020 TRD PRO is serving me 🎉just fine.. A local dealer contacted me about having a TRD Pro and Trailhunter available. But, they wanted $5k over sticker. I politely declined of course..
I have a question. My 23 tacoma Limited does not have understood insulation. I'm wondering why the factory didn't install it. Can i buy one, or is it not necessary any suggestions ?
I agree about Tacomas being soft. My 2023 Off Road is very cushy, more so than my Dad’s 2017 L4 SR. Both trucks have the same overall length and wheelbase (Dad’s DCLB & Mine ACLB)
Yesterday I went to the local Toyota dealer here in Salina KS. They had a Trailhunter and a TRD PRO Tacoma. Wow!! That TRD PRO was awesome. Now, its an expensive truck, almost $66,000. But it is the best looking tacoma. Makes me want to trade in my new '23 4runner limited for it. It sits higher and is wider than the other tacomas. It was the Terra color. In person it was bad ass and so much better in person than any pictures.....
absolutely. last of the dinosaurs. talk about something that will hold its value and never having to worry about reliability...best of the best. just picked up a new '24 TRD PRO in Midnight Black Metallic a few months ago. best buy you can make as Toyota will continue to punch themselves in the face with these new platforms.
Toyota has pretty much gone to Hybrid only. I used to buy Toyota Venza,Sienna which are Hybrid only. I have no desire to own a Hybrid at this time. I own currently own a 2015 Venza V6 AWD and a 2016 Tundra V8 4x4 no recalls or issues with either. I change my oil,brakes and tires which is it. Gas mileage is immaterial not having ,zero repairs.👍
Hey Rob! I drove the Hybrid Max today, that engine totally blows away the V-6! You could negotiate soon for a lower trim with the Max, for around 50K, it’s worth the Money!!
47,795 TRD Sport hybrid model starting price, the one you looked at must have a lots of options. Anyway my dealer said that Toyota informed them that they're going to start ramping down production of Tacomas for the rest of the year and ramp up productions of Sienna since they aren't such high demand.
They have 2024 TRD Sport Hybrid’s In Pittsburgh at my buddies dealership for $50,000 Online price. Sticker is $53,000 . They have a nice little sale going. I do agree though.. prices for all these new Tacomas are way too high. I think every trim level should be on average about $5000 less than they are listed. Its absolutely insane that the prices jumped 8-10,000 for certain trims this year!
Agreed with the comments. Owner of a 2nd and now 3rd gen since 2020 and love it. Toyota has priced themselves out of competition for now. If I wanted to buy a new 4th gen similar to my trd sport, I would have to pay 15k over what I payed in 2020....nop!😢 it would only be considered if it had the tundra hybrid setup....wait...not anymore with the recalls...😂
Hi Rob. I posted before, hope all is well with you. Just to relate, I was also a forever Toyota fan and was waiting for the 2024. There was nothing wrong with my 3rd gen but felt ancient. I was really eager to buy a new 2024, was just waiting for them, already decided the 3rd gen was a transition vehicle for me. Then, the price came so high, I was so dissapointed, which opened my eyes to other brands. Of course the 2024 has more features, but those are things, like 8 spped transmission, that other brands have been offering for many years already and should be considered modern standards. And the base models come bare, which forces you into needed to buy a package of some sort. Relationships are two ways always Rob, you are loyal to Toyota but they are not loyal to you?. Totota moved manufactoring to Mexico, yet priced the Tacoma to ridicoulous levels? This is the most profitable car company in the world. I know this is your business as well, I people need to be happy with their vehicles. But it is indeed expensive comapred to competition.
I would get a I force Max limited I think it’s got a lot of luxury and if they took it way upscale what is the best value for the $$ with that all wheel drive system and adaptive suspension. Probably not quite your speed Rob but if I were into trucks and being the old man I am that’s what I get lol
I have to give you props for sticking to your 50k limit. I'd say 50k is more than enough to pay for a fully loaded mid size truck. These companies have gotten out of hand. Younger guys pay attention, you are a main driver of these prices. STOP taking out 6, 7, and 8 year loans on cars. If you can't pay it off in 4 then you can't afford it.
Well hmmm, this is a sample of 1 so not valid. Have a friend over here that has a 10+year old F150 with the 6 cylinder turbo has 250k on it. Biggest repair it has needed is the front ball joints. Otherwise plugs and filters oh and tires. At least in his case the turbo tech seems advanced enough to be able to go the distance. You should be able to run it a year. Not sure if the shakes from not trading will let you go much longer than that.
@@RobMotive Look at fowler toyota in tulsa. They have 4 x 4 sport in orange msrp at 52k. I looked at one month ago at Jim Norton in tulsa that was 51800 and they lowered to 49k if I wanted it. I just wasn't ready and still thinking I'm going to a land cruiser
@@RobMotive Just giving you examples. I didn't even get real serious on one I looked at and they dropped it to 49k from 51800. So I'm sure you can probably get to the 48 to 49 not counting tax snd tag. Real close
It's your money, buy what you want enjoy your money, cannot take it with you when the Grim Reaper knocks on your door. For me I'll buy whatever I want, I don' take anyone's advise.
I just can't! Jesus man - you should have stayed with the Gen3 until you could get what you wanted. But really, how much power do you honestly need? If you are disappointed with the turbo 4 banger; you are also going to be disappointed with the hybrid. It isn't really that much more ommph anyway. If you want a well build truck with a very well engineered drivetrain that will go anywhere - just go get a 2024 4Runner before they go away later this year. When you have it, take a look underneath. Everything is massive and build to take anything you dish out at it. The transfer case is at least twice the size of the 3rd or 4th gen Tacoma. Likewise the transmission. It is the last of the really well made Toyotas. I had a 3rd gen Taco and was disappointed with the flimsy body panels and the delicate drivetrain. The 4th gen is even worse.
My local Toyota dealer left me a message on my phone asking if I was interested in selling or trading my 2012 TRD sport 4x4 double cab in manual taco...................i didn't return the call 😎
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I agree. I would never pay $50K or more for a Tacoma. I will keep my old one.
I agree with your 50k limit. Toyota is pricing themselves of the picture for most folks with the new generation. I also feel the 3rd gen had the perfect amount of tech for me.
I had a 3rd gen and now have a '24 TRD Sport Premium...it is a better truck in every way, basically. I especially love the added tech personally...so I guess ymmv. It is expensive though...no argument there...
Just bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier pro4 x loaded with all kinds of features and a sunroof plus spray in bed liner for 40,000. First ever Nissan ; feels solid and well built. I don’t have too worry about the turbo blowing out on it. I am not a brand loyalist and yes I owned a 3rd generation Tacoma but this underrated truck beats this current Tacoma generation. Why buy any of these 4 Cylinder turbos trucks if all I am going to get is another 1 gallon or 2 MPG combined it makes no senến.
Congratulations on your new truck.
The Frontier is a nice truck. I think you made a good choice. :))
But still drooling and watching Tacoma Videos. Must be buyer remorse.
Nah… He is just a RobMotive Groupie!😂@@highplainsdrifter9849
Satisfied with my 3rd Gen Tacoma.
The 4th Gen taco's silhouette has changed looking more like a baby Tundra's
That's why I bought the last 2023 v6 offroad before they went turbo. A few mods, and you got all the truck you'll ever need. Fully loaded for only 47,000 You gotta have good foresight.
I agree that 50K is way too much for a mid size truck. And I don’t want a Half Breed because the battery is under the back seat and it takes up all the storage in the back seat and I use the under seat for storage. And I still don’t trust having a battery inside the cabin area
I didn’t leave Toyota.
Toyota left me.
Had to buy something, 2010 rusted frame Taco. Loved it but couldn’t wait any longer for safety. Minimum needs are V6 and absolutely no turbos!
So what did you buy?
@@RobMotive 2024 Frontier Pro4x. Miss my Taco and this truck is a whole different vehicle. I wish everyone the best on the new Taco’s and Toyota has a reputation for usually working it’s trouble’s out but it just isn’t for me and we still have our ‘21 4 runner and ‘18 Rav4.
I have a 19' SR5 and it treats me well! It's 4x2. I kinda, at times wish I'd have gotten a 4x4 but here we are. And I'm pleased with it!
I got one 2024 sport 4x4 fully loaded love it
you can definitely get a cheaper one with less bells and whistles 😊
50k is my limit as well. The hybrid doesn’t offer enough advantages for me to justify the higher price.
Amen!
Appreciate your honesty, I think you’re spot on. If I was in your shoes, I’d keep the Tacoma too, just roll with it and enjoy it until something else you like comes along, don’t go backwards to the previous generation, that ship has sailed. You don’t seem like the type of owner that abuses vehicles so you should be good. Your vehicles are cherry as they say. Any problems come up, you know Toyota will take care of it. I know lots of people who would love to have your Tacoma but they just can’t afford it. Good video.
All new Tacoma’s are too high. That’s why the lots are full of them. they can’t sell them. My dealer has rolls of Tacoma’s.
Dealers around me only show a small fraction of their stock online, they have tons on a vacant lot a couple blocks away
Rob thank you for your honesty! That’s why I watch your show because I know you will always keep it real with your subscribers
A TRD Sport for over $60K is criminal. That dealership is marking it way up. MSRP for a TRD Offroad Premium i-Force Max is about $57K. It's still above your $50K limit, but not the criminal over $60K. Call out that dealership.
It's like Clint said; "A mans got to know his limit." That's the problem now days too many don't plan their finances wisely. It's smart to have a set dollar amount. The most important dollar figure when making a new vehicle purchase is the 'Out the door price' not the payment amount, not the term. Finance office people don't like me, I won't buy anything from them, take a 1200.00 ceramic coating for example they're selling them, crazy.
I am like you, I planned on getting a new one, but I currently have a 21 trd-off road that has the 6-foot bed and every option that was available in 21. To get the same setup in a new one would be dumb money so I am going to keep mine for years to come. Also, there is no way would I step down in options just to get a new one, once you have all those features it is hard to give them up.
I'm keeping my 2022 TRD Sport. At my age, this should be my last vehicle.
I’m keeping what I got. My 2020 TRD PRO is serving me 🎉just fine.. A local dealer contacted me about having a TRD Pro and Trailhunter available. But, they wanted $5k over sticker. I politely declined of course..
Thank goodness you are keeping it. Don't think you will EVER regret doing so. PS did calculate mpg by hand new orleans to houston 31 MPG 65 mph.
That’s really quite amazing! Good for you👍
I have a question. My 23 tacoma Limited does not have understood insulation. I'm wondering why the factory didn't install it. Can i buy one, or is it not necessary any suggestions ?
I don’t think I’ve ever had any on any of the Tacoma’s I’ve owned. I wouldn’t worry about it👍
@@RobMotive thanks Rob
I agree about Tacomas being soft. My 2023 Off Road is very cushy, more so than my Dad’s 2017 L4 SR. Both trucks have the same overall length and wheelbase (Dad’s DCLB & Mine ACLB)
The only thing I might switch to is a frontier
Why?
Yesterday I went to the local Toyota dealer here in Salina KS. They had a Trailhunter and a TRD PRO Tacoma. Wow!! That TRD PRO was awesome. Now, its an expensive truck, almost $66,000. But it is the best looking tacoma. Makes me want to trade in my new '23 4runner limited for it. It sits higher and is wider than the other tacomas. It was the Terra color. In person it was bad ass and so much better in person than any pictures.....
Sounds like you may need to make a deal!!
@@RobMotive lol....the pro is already pre sold. I really can't wait to see the new pro 4runner in that mudbath color.
I'm keeping my 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4
Get a gen5 4runner while you still can!
Nah…no 4Runner for me👍
absolutely. last of the dinosaurs. talk about something that will hold its value and never having to worry about reliability...best of the best. just picked up a new '24 TRD PRO in Midnight Black Metallic a few months ago. best buy you can make as Toyota will continue to punch themselves in the face with these new platforms.
@@RobMotive I know, I tried to sway you before! LoL Good for you staying true to the Tacos!
Have you seen the way the engine block is cast for the 24 4 runner ?
@@fredsausage8794 superficial roughness
Toyota has pretty much gone to Hybrid only. I used to buy Toyota Venza,Sienna which are Hybrid only. I have no desire to own a Hybrid at this time. I own currently own a 2015 Venza V6 AWD and a 2016 Tundra V8 4x4 no recalls or issues with either. I change my oil,brakes and tires which is it. Gas mileage is immaterial not having ,zero repairs.👍
3rd generation Tacoma is the best out of all the Tacomas.
Definitely agree stay with Toyota tacoma Rob. $50.000 limit.
Hey Rob! I drove the Hybrid Max today, that engine totally blows away the V-6! You could negotiate soon for a lower trim with the Max, for around 50K, it’s worth the Money!!
It would have to cost $50K or less all in for me to be interested.
47,795 TRD Sport hybrid model starting price, the one you looked at must have a lots of options.
Anyway my dealer said that Toyota informed them that they're going to start ramping down production of Tacomas for the rest of the year and ramp up productions of Sienna since they aren't such high demand.
That makes me happy they are upping production of the Sienna, I really want one to get back into Rideshare driving.
Top of the line TRD Trailhunter MSRP around $64,275 at Toyota dealer, near my location.😮
I had an order for a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon Launch Edition and when it came in it was $63k+ and I about fell over.
Did you take it?
I love my 2023 frontier pro 4X
i just got my 2023 tacoma ted off road 4x4 and i love it gonna be modding it soon 🫣🫣
Nice👍
I would never go from the V6 back down to a 4 I don’t care what kind of engine& never had a problem with the 21 SR 4X4
They have 2024 TRD Sport Hybrid’s In Pittsburgh at my buddies dealership for $50,000
Online price. Sticker is $53,000 . They have a nice little sale going.
I do agree though.. prices for all these new Tacomas are way too high. I think every trim level should be on average about $5000 less than they are listed. Its absolutely insane that the prices jumped 8-10,000 for certain trims this year!
Considering taxes, etc, they’d have to be another $4K+ lower.
@@RobMotive I agree. Its outrageous.
You should think about getting a GEN one Tacoma down the road and moding it up Rob 👍
If I could find one in good shape I would👍
You are spot on!
Agreed with the comments. Owner of a 2nd and now 3rd gen since 2020 and love it. Toyota has priced themselves out of competition for now. If I wanted to buy a new 4th gen similar to my trd sport, I would have to pay 15k over what I payed in 2020....nop!😢 it would only be considered if it had the tundra hybrid setup....wait...not anymore with the recalls...😂
Get back into a manual 3rd gen Tacoma rarest around
Hi Rob. I posted before, hope all is well with you. Just to relate, I was also a forever Toyota fan and was waiting for the 2024. There was nothing wrong with my 3rd gen but felt ancient. I was really eager to buy a new 2024, was just waiting for them, already decided the 3rd gen was a transition vehicle for me. Then, the price came so high, I was so dissapointed, which opened my eyes to other brands. Of course the 2024 has more features, but those are things, like 8 spped transmission, that other brands have been offering for many years already and should be considered modern standards. And the base models come bare, which forces you into needed to buy a package of some sort.
Relationships are two ways always Rob, you are loyal to Toyota but they are not loyal to you?. Totota moved manufactoring to Mexico, yet priced the Tacoma to ridicoulous levels? This is the most profitable car company in the world. I know this is your business as well, I people need to be happy with their vehicles. But it is indeed expensive comapred to competition.
I'm looking at a 2024 F150 STX, In the low 40's.
You need a Gladiator Rubicon!
I'm not going to blow over $50K for any truck, but under $50K is my limit Rob.
Anyone out there that owns a tacoma have you ever had the frame undercoating done for rust?
I never have. But probably a good idea if you live in the rust belt and plan to keep the truck for the long haul.
@RobMotive well I'm in Chicago, and they're salting the streets heavy. They're even throwing salt down when only a few snowflakes
I would get a I force Max limited I think it’s got a lot of luxury and if they took it way upscale what is the best value for the $$ with that all wheel drive system and adaptive suspension. Probably not quite your speed Rob but if I were into trucks and being the old man I am that’s what I get lol
You always come back where you were happy 😁😁
I have to give you props for sticking to your 50k limit. I'd say 50k is more than enough to pay for a fully loaded mid size truck. These companies have gotten out of hand.
Younger guys pay attention, you are a main driver of these prices. STOP taking out 6, 7, and 8 year loans on cars. If you can't pay it off in 4 then you can't afford it.
Not enough value in it for more IMO.
I’m waiting for more aftermarket stuff to come along to make it a better than and cheaper truck than from Toyota.
Things are coming…slowly!
@@RobMotive very slowly. Just now found seat covers and floor mats that are made for the truck.
I’m in the process of making my own phone mount! Nothing out there that suits my needs!
Plus the gas mileage on the hybrid is not all that!
Nope! Just a couple of mpg’s! No value!
@@RobMotiveThe hybrid was designed to provide more power, not much on fuel economy
I say no to the 24 I'll keep my 23 taco totally content
I'm just keeping what I got to much for hybrid 😂
"F150 is a hard feeling truck"🤣🤣..IT'S A TRUCK!
If you want a better ride buy a Cadillac.
You drive one?
Keeping what I have unless I start seeing big a** rebates and low interest rates for the full term.
Well hmmm, this is a sample of 1 so not valid. Have a friend over here that has a 10+year old F150 with the 6 cylinder turbo has 250k on it. Biggest repair it has needed is the front ball joints. Otherwise plugs and filters oh and tires. At least in his case the turbo tech seems advanced enough to be able to go the distance.
You should be able to run it a year. Not sure if the shakes from not trading will let you go much longer than that.
and all the loan interest paid in the first year(s) of the loan.
Just get a ZR2 Rob, we all know you want it.
Modern S-10 Junk
Toyota has you exactly where they want you. You’re so loyal to the brand, they screw you and you ask for more.
Lol! If that were the case I'd already own a hybrid Tacoma 😂
You csn get a trd sport or offroad hybrid not loaded sticker 51 and can get at least 3k off msrp right now. Just fyi
Where?
Oklahoma
@@RobMotive
Look at fowler toyota in tulsa. They have 4 x 4 sport in orange msrp at 52k. I looked at one month ago at Jim Norton in tulsa that was 51800 and they lowered to 49k if I wanted it. I just wasn't ready and still thinking I'm going to a land cruiser
The one at Fowler is over $52K. They’d have to knock over $4K off to come in under $50K.
@@RobMotive
Just giving you examples. I didn't even get real serious on one I looked at and they dropped it to 49k from 51800. So I'm sure you can probably get to the 48 to 49 not counting tax snd tag. Real close
At this point, the ranger raptor is a better value proposition. Cheaper than a pro and a trail hunter.
I'd be shocked if you could actually get one cheaper right now.
Buy a 4Runner and avoid the headaches
Nah. No 4Runner for me.
50k? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
?
Keep what I got
It's your money, buy what you want enjoy your money, cannot take it with you when the Grim Reaper knocks on your door. For me I'll buy whatever I want, I don' take anyone's advise.
I drove a 24 taco here a while back and I absolutely hated it.
What were you comparing it to ?
You won't get the hybrid for less than that
Nope.
Keep my 2020
I just can't! Jesus man - you should have stayed with the Gen3 until you could get what you wanted. But really, how much power do you honestly need? If you are disappointed with the turbo 4 banger; you are also going to be disappointed with the hybrid. It isn't really that much more ommph anyway. If you want a well build truck with a very well engineered drivetrain that will go anywhere - just go get a 2024 4Runner before they go away later this year. When you have it, take a look underneath. Everything is massive and build to take anything you dish out at it. The transfer case is at least twice the size of the 3rd or 4th gen Tacoma. Likewise the transmission. It is the last of the really well made Toyotas. I had a 3rd gen Taco and was disappointed with the flimsy body panels and the delicate drivetrain. The 4th gen is even worse.
Nah, the 4Runner is not for me. I have no interest.
$50,000 tops!
U NEVER buy the first new year model.
Now where’s the excitement in that 😂
Rob, u can get a hybrid Tacoma at 47k
Where?
@RobMotive in Toyota website start 46,600
Good luck in the real world….
@@RobMotive I'm pretty sure next year you are able to the price hehehehe.
Zr2!
Get a frontier
Nah…feels old to me now.
Ford Ranger 4 turbo is quicker than your truck 😂
I can't say....I've never gone against one?
@@RobMotive TFL trucks did a drag race with mid size trucks.
That's nice...but it's not me.
@@RobMotive don’t matter same results…
Hardly! I have no idea how skilled those guys are and if they’re sponsored by anyone.
No V6 and to much good bye toyota said
I got a hybrid offroad premium. No regrets what so ever
My local Toyota dealer left me a message on my phone asking if I was interested in selling or trading my 2012 TRD sport 4x4 double cab in manual taco...................i didn't return the call 😎
Good for you👍