BCM TRAINING TIP - LAV'S 50% RULE
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Brought to you by our good friends at Bravo Company USA, Larry walks you through his 50% Rule. A Training Tip to help minimize any of the possible issues you may run into while using an AR15. Go check it out and remember to subscribe below.
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Larry's not saying that a fully loaded mag is a bad thing, he's telling you that by stripping off the 2 rounds you'll be less likely to have a problem. As we all should know, stuff happens at the most inopportune time. I've loaded 28 rnds for years, got that advice from a Viet Nam era warrant officer.
It makes it easier to load the mag with the bolt closed
good times
Always love some LAV training tips. Always do 28 on 30 rd rifle mags and -1 on pistol mags. Never had issues in the last 18 years of service.
@rwsthedemonking I have used pmags for years. They are one of the best out there. I prefer not to mess with them as far as making them hold more. They work with 30 rds fine, I just run them as I stated above. The only problem with any mag I have owned was a glock g22 mag loaded to 15 rds so not overloaded but at capacity. The mag base gave way and the spring, follower, and base flew across the range. Factory mag but was 6 years old and well ran. Funny thing pistol was holstered when it happened and all the rounds were there in the mag still. Found everything but the base plate. It was probably 2 towns over.
How do you feel about long term full/"28rnd" mag storage?
@@clarkrichards1907 That would have been fun to witness as long as I wasn't standing down range of the base plate. :0D
Listen brother a lot of hard work and dedication in that weight loss you're looking fantastic keep it up man great job. 👍
BCM is always my go-to for anything AR
Pretty basic stuff...still important stuff. Thank you for all you do LAV! ✌
Something worth considering is never loading with the charging handle. I always use the bolt catch to drop the bolt. Always. I only ever use the charging handle to lock the bolt back or during malf clearing. This way there's no risk of accidentally riding it, getting it caught on a glove, etc. Only time I ever really "charge" the gun all the way is during malf clearance. For loading procedures, I always lock the bolt to the rear, insert mag, and drop the bolt catch. Never had an issue doing it that way.
Never had any problems loading a M16 or my Ar15 magazine full. But still great video. Solid advice.
Same I always fully load, no problem
@@chrisowens8494 that is definitely true. But it hasn't caused any malfunctions for me yet.
@@chrisowens8494 if I was going into harm's way I would be more worried about it. But 99% of reloads will be done on an open bolt anyway, so...
Chris Owens if that were true they already know all of this, so what would be the point?
@@chrisowens8494 all his BCM training tips are pretty basic. IMO geared toward brand new shooters.
Larry, we would like to see a video comparison between a BCM and Daniel Defense. Maybe the BCM recce 16 mcmr vs the DDv7 (both rifles are MLOK versions). Do some quick accuracy testing, show what each rifle comes with out of the box, trigger pull weight, prices, and then maybe go over the specs of each rifle (what materials each company uses for specific parts, barrel, BCG, bolt, etc)
I’m sure I’m not the only one who would like to see this video from you and your crew!
@@pault.mccain6637 Exactly. And while I love both companies it would be awkward for Larry if the DD was proved superior.
Great tips for the newer AR owners out there, keep em’ coming Larry!
It's like what soldiers did in Vietnam with those 20 round mags, they'd underload them by 2-3 rounds
I’ve heard the Brits and the Rhodesians do the same thing too.
A full mag is difficult to seat on a closed bolt (ie. during a tactical mag change)...I still load to 30 but it can be tough sometimes.
Depends a lot on the play in the magazine follower and type of magazine as well.
Why would the video not explain reason for 28 rounds
@@gary07281963 exactly my thoughts. A lot of stuff in the gun world is explained like in the military. Just do this and don't do that. With no reason why.
Gary: The reason for 28 is simple. If you push the spring of the magazin as far as it goes. you got a lot of tension. it´s going to be harder for the bolt to pick up the round.
Always good stuff Larry. I tell people this all the time: don't top your mags off. I always load mine to 95% capacity
Good tips Larry. I just now have my first AR and didn’t think about removing two rounds from the mag. I learn a lot from your channel. 👍🏻
Larry, great tips thanks for taking the time to show us. God Bless, brother.
Good to see the Lean & Mean Larry Vickers back in action!
WB-USMC Ret.
The best channel ☝🏻
Looking good and healthy Larry! Keep it up 👍💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Larry is just great, always simple helpful stuff. His Blue Force Gear simply great! Thanks Larry and BCM
Thank you for your service, Larry
Had problems with my Magazines seating in a Very Wet LAV Two Day Carbine class, After downloading two rounds, then push pull fixed the issue.
I keep my AR with a fully loaded magazine, bolt locked to the rear, safety on. Inserting mags is a non issue, I can easily insert a fully loaded Surefeed 30 rounder even with the bolt forward.
Daniel Hesse ..”BOLT Locked to the rear”? BAD idea in my book...,granted to each his own but seems as if you’re just tempting fate a bit by allowing ‘something’ to FALL, CRAWL, DROP inside that action or upper receiver, ‘cause you’re NOT ABLE to close the dust cover to KEEP it from happening. AND, you must live in a bad neighborhood that requires THAT MUCH of a jump on bad guys ha ha ha. Just messing with you...
@@m118lr You can close the dust cover with the bolt locked to the rear...
@@chrisowens8494 Because AR-15s are not drop safe. Note that I'm talking about how I store it by my nightstand, not how I would carry it.
@@chrisowens8494 nice theory brotendo
Thanks larry
I've always fully loaded my 30 Round mags and never had an issue. Then again I only use surefeeds.
I don't down load any of my mags, never been a problem for me
@Chet Manley I appreciate where he's coming from, for sure. Better safe than sorry in a lot of cases.
I believe LV is coming from the angle that: IF you want as CLOSE TO ZERO problems as possible, THEN -2...
@@m118lr like I said, I've dropped the bolt on a full Surefeed E2 thousands of times, with no issues.
@@chrisowens8494 really? Every instructor?
I guess they know better than the people who make the magazines.
I never said Larry was wrong, I was simply giving my two cents. Also keep in mind Larry was trained, and operated during a time when magazines were less reliable than they are today.
I've dropped the bolt on a 30 rounder loaded to 31 and it chambered just fine. I've done the same with magazines loaded to 30 thousands of times, without issue
Awesome tips. Let's see how many keyboard commandos disagree...
So I guess that means the DD 32 rnd mags are really reliable 30s
I can load my dd mags with 31 reliably, but 32 causes issues
@rwsthedemonking you can load them completely but the reason to down load them is to be able to put in a magazine on a closed bolt
@rwsthedemonking I like 28 cuz if I try to do a faster reload on a closed bolt i dont have to dick around trying to seat the mag so I'm less likely to have it fall out
Thumb down for this one... until your thumb nail is covered by the magazine. Got it.
Lube.
Magazine fully seated & pull.
Charging handle all the way back and let go.
Got it.
Thank you.
Hell yeah. Thanks man. Valuable advice for sure
wow, surprised at the barrel flex at 0:11. Although I did see that earlier video a while back that really showed it also.
That is crazy! I'm very curious about this and I'll be doing lots of research in the next few days...
BCM makes some of the best AR's , love em.
I have no access to guns, but I like how I feel home in some of those tips from airsofting, like the "load to max minus 2 rounds" and "push to seat (not tap though) and pull to confirm".
good stuff Larry
I’ve never had a problem loading 30 rds in a mag, I’m not saying LAV is wrong he clearly know his stuff but why not split the difference and load to 29 rds? cause as soon as you charge the weapon with 28 rds in it the mag is now under loaded by 3 rds.
I believe people do that to make it easier to load the magazine into the gun when the bolt is closed. It can be a little hard to do with 30 rounds loaded in them, but I myself always load my guns with the bolt back so I don't need to do that.
Looking Good Larry!
I have a bravo company ar except mine has a geissle stage 2 trigger and bolt carrier group and it is the best rifle I have ever owned.
love your training tips, thanks
Good tips, although I run 100% dry lube on my RECCE with Zero malfs compared to wet lube in wind blown dusty Wyoming which captures lots of gritty particles.
Thank you for this Mr. Vickers, great little tips.
Very simple, but at the same time very important.
Greetings from Russia Lav /
00:13 bolt bounce. :P
I load my mags to 30, never had a problem, but they want to hold 31, so 30 doesn't bottom out the follower.
I always keep it lubed. No engine runs without oil, neither do weapons.
I try to lock the bolt back to load a mag, just so there's no way I can ride the bolt home. The recoil spring does its job if you allow it to.
If you treat an AR right, it'll run in any condition you can reasonably throw at it.
I top off my mags and never had a problem. That’s the only thing I disagree with in this video fully. Definitely run your bolt wet. She’ll eat everything under the sun when you do.
Good tip on the magazine larry, the SAS said to never run your magazine full, take 1-2 out in case of spring failure.
Sweet, this is solid info for the civilian gun community. None of the bs youtuber crap!
Great guy.
Hey I heard about downloading the mag by 2 from Warrior Poet John Lovell as well.
I will take these 4 rules to my team and tell them from where they came.
Excellent advice... Thank you sarge
very interesting information sir!!!!
Gday Larry. Could you do a video of your AR and AK immediate action drills?
Great video!
Thanks for the tips Mr. Vickers !!!!!!!
Look at that old school OG bendi boi KMR
Also, "God and Eugene got together" and put the bolt release right where your thumb is after you seat a mag. "Stop fuckin with God and Eugene"
So basic but so often forgotten. Having your mag fall out at the range is embarrassing but in a life of death situation it could be fatal.
Never thought about only loading the mag to -2 of its max capacity. Good advice
Looking good in the weight loss department Larry !... 👍🏻
Would/should the "mag rule" also apply to handgun magazines ?
That'd fix at least 90% of my problems with my ARs. They don't malfunction, but I do.
Thank you!!!!
Great tips from LAV 👍🏻
solid tips
Excellent! Thank you.
Damn. Look at that barrel whip
I do the same with my ak magazines
Why? AK mags work fine at full capacity. PMag and Lancer AR mags do too.
@@ElijahDecker just my habit
simple and effective.
I do all of those except stripping out two rounds still never had a problem with my rifle ever feeding or cycling
Basic old school 👍
sport's slap pull observe tap squeeze
Hell yea! Please do another one with the AK
My rifles run wet, learned that from Larry years back when he was on another TV show.
love these quick tips!
Awesome!!!!!!
Previously, Larry said to load 30 rounds and that is what he did when he was in Delta. Either way, I always download by 2.
nope , 28 rounds every time , the two missing bullet is not worth the stress on the magazine.
@@tycinis or having to fight to get the mag seated properly..if the bolt is forward. ✌
@@tycinis It isn't stress on the magazine, it is a possible risk of not being able to seat the magazine on a closed bolt. The magazine spring can handle 30 rounds loaded just fine.
That pencil barrel whip.
He is 100% correct great tips!
Please take a look and shoot a Heckler & Koch G11
Larry's the man
I’ve never had an issue loading Magpul PMAGs to 30 rounds. They seat easily on a closed bolt when fully loaded. Aluminum mags maybe need to be downloaded but not PMAGs.
MUCH RESPECT!
Great tips, Larry. Now I only have to worry about brain fade!!!!
I have yet to have a magazine failure from loading all 30 rounds in my USGI mags or my P-Mags. All of them seat fine with the bolt closed though they require more force to seat than when the bolt is open. I don’t shoot anywhere near the amount of rounds that Larry does but I’ve shot my fair share. My oldest AR has over 10K thru it. Only magazine issues I had was with some old ones that I paid $2 a piece from a pawn shop. Most of them didn’t work well which is why they were selling them so cheap. Good mags, no issues.
Never heard of you. Not saying you are wrong but I'm still listening to Larry on his opinion about magazines since he's actually done it in real life with the most elite unit in the world.
Why not put the loaded mag in with the action locked open?
Tactical reloads are done when the current mag is not empty, but you want to take advantage of a lull in the fight and put a full mag in the gun so you're fully loaded. If you have 5 or 6 rounds left, pull that one out and put it in a pouch, load a new one, done. No need to the cycle the bolt because there's a cartridge in the chamber.
@@mannys9130 : I know what a tactical reload is, if you watch the video he's not talking about a tactical reload because he charges the rifle and states not to follow the charging handle, let it go to chamber the first round.
So back to the question of why not have the action open?
@@Doublezzranch I suppose you could, but it's more awkward and takes longer to lock an AR15 BCG to the rear than it does to put it in your shoulder or chicken wing it and rack the charging handle to the rear. By practicing the smoother, faster technique to begin with, it becomes easier to do it faster later on.
But when do you shoot?
@rwsthedemonking Wow I admit you. Please be safe.
Wow! Thanks Larry! Not to sound funny but I'm gonna go lube up and strip 2 rounds off right now. Thanks man!
Please Upload The Video Of NP42 9mm Pistol Review Unboxing Firing And More Detail About That Gun....
Thanks...
Great tips LAV!
When you're restricted to 10 Rd mags downloading 2 sound's like a terrible idea
It's more an issue on magazines containing 20+ rounds. The spring retains a good balance with its compression in most 10-round magazines and is usually not pushing too hard or too loose.
Most of the 10 round restricted mags have plenty of room in them and space because they should be normal capacity. So not as much of an issue... unless you are talking about p365 or similar guns. ✌
I've got a tip that will eliminate 50% of the problems you speak of. Go on vacation to a free state, load your luggage up with standard capacity mags purchased in said free state. Go home and plan out freedom in your tyrant sickened state as the day will come. The other 50%...well just don't get caught with them until the fires lit and the luau is on.
@@joemoment-o1275 Well, when your life is on the line you want to avoid having an empty gun if at all possible.
The minus two in the mags is strictly for the AR platform..not pistols!!
That 28 rd mag deal. I'm no expert gunfighter, and I have no combat experience, but I've taken instruction from people that do. I run PMags and EMags, and my instructors run PMags and Lancers. We've never had any issues with full 30 rd mags. I guess it would make sense for the old steel/aluminum mags, but I don't see a reason to do it with modern mags.
It has nothing to do with the mags. It is being able to insert it and overpower the magazine spring on a closed bolt. Most times a malfunction is from inserting your mag on a closed bolt and a pull of the trigger with a 1 round then click because the mag wasn't inserted fully.
Great tips!
What irons are those? They look good and light. Having stout BUIS is something I like better than flip ups (even the Troy or Magpul Pro)
Thank you! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That's a nice gun
Military Arms Channel is about 5,000 rounds into a BCM AR test where they never lube or clean the gun in any way and they haven't had a single issue yet so I'm wondering where the whole "you HAVE to keep it lubed!" idea comes from. I totally understand that when it comes to moving metal parts you want a thin layer of oil or lubricant to minimize friction and wear, but I have yet to see actual proof of a rifle malfunctioning to the point of uselessness just because it wasn't soaked in lube.
I've heard that the over-lubing era was born in the Middle East: Desert Storm, etc. Those drier, sandy climates tend to do a number on a rifle, so they run 'em wetter than a cheerleader on prom night. But, for most people not downrange, minimal lubricant is enough.
@@jamesa.7113 But wouldn't having a well lubed (wet) system cause sand to stick to your bcg and get into the action?
@@jamesa.7113 Strange, as I've read just the opposite. Chuck Pressburg has often said they typically run their HK416s bone dry when they are in the sandbox.
Please review gun OTS 14 /GROZA
Still waiting for that fancy receiver to come out...
HK & OKAY USGI/Surefeed are what I use. The only downloading I do is on my computer.
What’s the point of using iron sights and a red dot at the same time? Doesn’t the red dot defeat the purpose?
Mkvine iron sights are backup in case the red dot fails
Looks like he has the sights at the lower 1/3 of the RDS. The iron sights are for backup it could be the RDS takes a shit for any reason or fogs up if you're in the rain whatever. I've even heard of some people using the front sight as kind of a reference point of sorts to keep the dot perfectly in the center. Even RDS exhibit parallax.
And I like having front sight post for point of reference when I’m running and gunning at speed. It does help, for me at least.
The iron sights are for a back up theyre co-witnessed with the red dot, theyre there so if the red dot gets damaged or batteries run out you can still use the weapon effectively
Molon Labe don’t they get in the way of the dot? Like it makes it look more busy?
I also take out 1 in an AR-15 mag. 2 seems overkill
Please do another video on the STG44 one day!
I’m somewhat new to firearms. Forgive my ignorance, but can someone explain to me the reasoning behind loading the magazine to capacity and then taking two rounds out? The others I get. Taking the two rounds out of a fully loaded magazine I don’t get. Thanks to anyone who explains this to me. 👍🏼
Paul McCain...I did, thanks. Still doesn’t answer my question! Geesh.
What I meant by my question was, I get that Vickers is saying to do the things in this video to avoid 50% of the problems associated with this platform. As someone relatively new to firearms, all I was asking is what problem occurs when you load a magazine to capacity? I’m sure those who have a lot of experience shooting AR-15s know what problem(s) he is referring to. I don’t and was just trying to genuinely learn. Geesh.
Paul McCain Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate you explaining what problem Mr. Vickers was talking about.
Lol I can already hear people screaming that lube collects dirt
It does. If you'll be running in a very dusty, dirty location it's best to keep the lube to a minimum. Here in SW AZ it is very dusty and dry guns run better unless you can take the gun apart and hit it with aerosol cleaner and aerosol lube every now and then.
I also live in the Arizona desert and it is important to limit the amount of lube. It’s not just “lube collects dirt”. When you’re in an environment that has a lot of fine airborne dust and sand, it makes it’s way into the rifle and just starts grinding away at everything over time. Yes, lube is important, I agree. However, know your environment and understand that over lubing will cause issues in dirty, dusty environments.
mannys9130 ...dumb. IF YOU REALLY mean “dry”, as it’s defined anyway. Anybody (here we go) SHOULD KNOW that friction creates heat and ‘oil’ helps cool and provides longevity to affected parts. Just LOOK at all your TOP shooters...professional, etc. I promise you, none will say “run it dry”, NONE. Ok, I guess we all have our “minimum”...and there HAS to be a cooling medium of sorts.
@rwsthedemonking it you run it dry the small layer of carbon will help parts slide, that was Eugene stoners original idea
@@m118lr You've clearly never shot in a desert environment. Thin layer of grease where the BCG rides in the rails and thats it if anything. Anything more and that shit will collect dust until the gun is completely non functional until you dump a ton of water into it to get the sand out. This is especially important for dudes riding in convoys especially in open vehicles.
This video was great for a novice ar owner like myself.
I’m not used to seeing the foregrip like that. I run it backwards like a AK dong grip ala Lucas botkin
Strange. Most foregrips are either straight or swept backwards like the pistol grip is.
@@mannys9130 that is how they are generally designed to be used. Lucas intentionally reverses it, as to many others because it drives their hand into the corner between the rail and the foregrip when they pull back.
People who do this almost always use a combination of gripping the rail and the foregrip, almost like it's a hand stop.
I heard the part about unloading two rounds a few times now, but nobody really bothers explaining why. So, why should I unload two rounds and should I do that on every rifle or just AR15 platform rifles?
Just a question, or more a statement, I have never had any issues loading my mags full & shooting my AR, been doing this for decades now. Now would this work for LR-308 as well, I would see only putting 18 in a 20 roung 308 mag.