This historian lived through Jim Crow and I found his interview the most powerful in explaining what he saw and why. ruclips.net/video/nPBttI52sPw/видео.html David Hoffman filmmaker
Please tell them how inspiring they were in this interview. As a retired teacher, I loved hearing about how important their teachers were to them in shaping them as people. They did them proud.
I’d have been honoured to have Mr and Mrs Williams as my neighbours they are wise and balanced and any community are better for people that hold these qualities.
When I attended desegregated school for the first time in middle school, I found the 2 black teachers who taught me seemed to bring that whole person focus to their classroom. It was in contrast to the lecture and test approach of the white teachers. It's subtle and I think that most people didn't notice.
Doing attendance with a "good morning" is a fantastic way to greet students and make them feel welcome. As a teacher, I am definitely going to start doing this! ❤️
This was 1989. Such an insightful, intelligent, enlightening, thoughtful discourse. I feel depressed about the lack of progress and regression since then. I wonder how they feel 30 + years later.
David your work makes me pay attention. But THIS one is one of the BEST!!!! When i was a kid, i lived in wiltpn, ct. In the 60's, they bused in kids from bridgeport, ct, about 15 miles away. A fascinating time. Your films are FASCINATING!!!!!
Of the Caribbean, I believe most Black people do not "pity" themselves. If you are not on the receiving end of racism, please do not make statements like that.
@@dlitefulone I know what you mean. Apparently, it is assumed or believed people think Black folk seek "pity." Nothing could be further from the truth. The ❤ filmmaker believes it too.
@@jenniferj6580 Most black folks don’t seek pity and are usually very proud people. However, mainly among the younger generations I see a lot of black people who maybe not all of them are looking for pity exactly, but they are looking for attention to their struggles. While most average US citizens do struggle, lately younger minorities have been basically saying that no white people struggle and even if they do they can’t receive pity and shouldn’t dare seek it. Which, no one should seek pity, but the same exact people saying this are wanting nothing but pity for their own struggles. Instead of standing together and facing all our issues head on, together, they’re causing a deeper divide. A divide the US cannot afford or the whole world is gonna end up paying for it. So yeah, there’s plenty of people seeking pity for things they may or may not have even experienced. Victimizing themselves. It’s actually getting pretty dangerous.
This is beautiful!! Thus goes to show that when we as a community stick together in our schools, churches and just as a people in general, we can shape and form our own community into something spectacular!! We as a people had so much pride about ourselves, the way we walked, talked, dressed and just carried ourselves. I truly believe it's bc we were teaching our own and caring for our own. Can we get back to that? We've got to stick together!!!
Black women were and are still abused big time by black men, and black children were and are still abused by both. A lot of black women are finally speaking up about it - they're all over the internet - and that's a trend that will continue. Before the internet, people both black and white, kept a lot of dark secrets and pretended their lives were great all the time - It was the culture back then to pretend all was good when it wasn't.
I can't wait to sit down and properly watch this! I never fail to enjoy your documentaries, David. Pastor Williams and Lyllie seem like such wonderful people.
I will NEVER understand how a human being can treat another human being with racist contempt solely based on the pigment in their skin. I grew up listening to my father talk about "the n*****s" this and that. One day, I asked if my friend Joyce could spend the night. I'll never forget hearing my dad say "Hell no!" and after I ran to my room crying, my mom came in and said, "Honey, it's just not DONE!" (I found out years later that my Mom was just going along with my Dad-scared of him.) But THAT was the moment that I knew that racism was wrong. RACISM IS LEARNED, FOLKS, AND IT IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!
U gotta understand the psyche of the Pheomelanin mind...these ppl have a long history of brutal conflicts and famines and disease and they needed Eumelanin ppl for global conquest and to stabilize their civilizations with wealth/resources and since they have discovered the pyramids and other ancient Eumelanin civilizations they understand that if they relinquish control of Eumelanin ppl then they will go back into the dark ages of Pheomelanin poverty
@@willysweetwonkajoe1432 if you think about it.. it's the kings and rulers that create conflict.. it's not necessary, except as a very effective method of mind control.. worries about those people over there, who, we are told, are coming to take our stuff.. rape our women, or men.. or both.. and.. while we watch those people over there.. our benevolent government gets all our stuff first.. but we are too worried about imaginary lines and "colors " and other happy horse feathers to notice.. it's not like built in to the human psyche.. it's called brainwashing
I think Ive watched this video no fewer than 30 times. Whenever I miss home and my grandmother I listen to them. So few people talk like this anymore. Just the sound of their words is a therapy.
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I wish all children and youth today had teachers like those. But those teachers had 100% backing of the parents at home. No disrespect tolerated. Education was respected and deemed necessary for a good future. I have witnessed both racism and classism in life. It makes me feel sad. I worry for the future for all young people today.
@@liamsandal6360 Yeah, that’s what they told me too. It’s a nice quaint thought, but looking at history, in the real world, that’s not possible. It doesn’t show up anywhere, that makes a difference. I think they call that: ‘Being so heavenly bound, your no earthly good.’ And even Jesus asked, "Why do you say I am good? God alone is good."
@@geekmeee Oh please. Exodus 2:2 says וַתַּהַר הָֽאִשָּׁה וַתֵּלֶד בֵּן וַתֵּרֶא אֹתוֹ כִּי־טוֹב הוּא My first language is Hebrew. It says that "the woman gave birth and conceived a son and she saw him that he was good". This is speaking of Yocheved's conception of the child Moses. Jesus was a popular Jewish preacher who was a fanatic in all things. He also told his mother, "Who is my mother, and who is my father" when the Torah commands the Jews to "honor thy father and thy mother". In attempting to be more holy than the Torah, he committed all manner of blasphemy. Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew, and taught his gospel to Jews. But after his death, Paul of Tarsis (whose real name was Sha'ul) started a new religion in Jesus' name, although Sha'ul had never met Jesus. This is one of the reasons Thomas Jefferson called Paul the biggest fraud in history. Don't try to argue Scripture with me. I have an M.A. in Old Testament Studies and used to be a pastor.
I stay subscribed to you because I dig a perspective I can never have and as an artist I respect you. This is the best video by far, americans can be so much more than they think
Thankyou so very very much for sharing. I'm 62 and I feel so robbed but where I was robbed I pray my children and grandchildren will take heed to words of wisdom from our elders and listen attentively. Again...thankyou.
I remember those days growing up in New Orleans. Our black teachers loved us like their own children... I especially remembered my 4th grade teacher Mrs. Lewis she had a saying, 1. Do Not use the Lords name in vain in my class room. 2. Speak when you are spoken to , and come when you are called. What a blessing to have someone love you, more than you loved yourself. R.I.P. Black Women, and Black Men who taught us..
Thank you so much for sharing, my family is from Farmville Virginia, the BOOKER ‘s, the Miller , Thornton’s, I have passed this video on to my grandchildren. Again thank you for this video
She was prophetic at the end talking about a future generation that wouldn’t care about education and the demise of family. I sure wish I could have heard the teacher he had in k,4&6 grades with all his Black History stories!! I spent my youth reading them in great fascination! Still do. Was this wonderful lady in another video but a bit older? Such a mesmerizing kindness about her. I wish I’d had her as one of my teachers! So glad you captured their story, David!! ♥️
I want to listen to an audiobook narrated by someone with a soothing voice and accent like this. I could listen to most things they say. I also love a lot of thier points on holistically teaching children.
I could listen to this many times over. The beautiful couple put me in mind of my parents and those with whom they associated. I am so thankful to have grown up well rounded, taught to respect others, no matter who they were.
While I have complicated feelings about the boomer generation, your interviews are beautiful to watch to understand the context of the generation. No doubt younger generations hate to imagine it, but we will one day also be judged for what we did in our youth and the impact it has on the world. It's a careful study in humanity, growth, success, and failures. History is so important and I appreciate you sharing it with us.
I would loved to have had such nice people as next door neighbors...My Great Grandfather lived in a small town in southern Ky. When my mother was a child she told me as an adult anyone was welcomed into his home ...Did not matter what color of skin or where you where from..She was a child in the 1940's..and sadly the town did have some awful signs posted back then...But no one would say anything against My Great Grandfather...Not because he was wealthy...he was not ,but he did have a lot of land that some he gave away for a park..He made rocking chairs.chairs,stools and baskets..He was a hard worker and a very kind man...I lost him as a child ..I still miss him to this day..His name was Issac Newton Likens....I called him pa..
Hearing their story, I've always said that what they described here is now lacking is/has been our problem! I always said segregation was beneficial to our race! Those black teachers .. their educating was on a whole other level! Look at how these two amazing individuals turned out! AND they captured valuable details that they could pass on! This interview is priceless..
@David Hoffman such powerful videos that you have, I am amazed, you really have a heart, I Salut you. And I hope you carry on being a human with feelings. I'm not American, but do appreciate regardless, where, what and who people are regardless of colour or creed. At the end we are all the same sir. Let's love help and respect each other. 🙏🏼👍🏼✌🏼
My opinion, is that the black communities need more people like this and that the current day doesn't offer this perspective in the poor black communities anyway. Just the fact that they are an older black couple that lived their lives together means a lot and imagine a whole community of people like them..
Jack Dawson government statistics show that fewer black people get married today than at any other time since the ending of slavery. I don’t know why this fact is, but it’s a fact nonetheless.
What your referring to is the good southern blacks. Like when Oprah went to southern towns and the whites said our blacks are just fine here with noing there place and here you come with your cameras stirring up trouble. The northern blacks in the 1950,s were just as segregated. They just weren’t as afraid as southern blacks. There are good people just like these I’ve seen on tv with the protests going. Right now. I’ve heard them speak and acknowledge their pain.
Daisy there are Black people outside the US, and declining marriage (and birth) rates are more generational than racial. And besides, plenty of marriages don’t result in supportive homes for children. As before: question your assumptions.
Jack Dawson because they don’t and if they do they not listening they out burning shit they won’t help them the Democrats want them to act that way want them to feel like a victim rather than a survivor cause they can set off a victim with anything but a survivor has common sense and think for them selves 🗣
Southern University and A&M College taught me so much I didn’t know. When I would do independence reading and research and learned bout our people struggled and triumphs, now when look at our conditions today, we have lost that pride our people pridefully lived with.
I express my thanks sir for the time you give to share these informative videos online for the world to see. Some of your videos are on Twitter, which is how I searched and became aware of your channel.
This highlights the incredibly slow speed st which "change" takes place. It was fascinating to hear their story. Wouldn't it have been amazing to have watched this vid and been shocked at their journey? How can I, or anyone else, be shocked/stunned when the prejudism and racism is still prevalent today! The elitist/privileged and "better than" attitude of the majority of white people hasn't diminished. Much more change is needed. We are brothers and sisters. Btw, I'm a white woman and despise racism.
You are joking right? You think the attitude of white people towards black people 50 plus years ago is the same attitude they have today? No, it's not. Look around you. Look at culture. White people would not have elected a black president back then, but they did in 2008 AND 2012. Black music, rap and hip hop, reigns supreme. Back then you could call a black person a derogatory name and no one would care. You do that today and you will get your ass beat, most likely by a white person. Black people are at many levels of power and success that they could have only dreamed about back then. So, no, the attitudes white people have towards black people is NOT the same today as it was then.
@@Martin-gz4qn I didn't say that attitudes of white people towards black people hasn't changed in 50 years. I said "the incredibly slow speed at which change takes place". Yes it has changed (a little). Many white people like, and enjoy, black inspired music and have popularised it. Yes, racial slurs are, in some places, punishable by the judicial system. In fact I agree with all you have pointed out, however, POC are not being granted a huge favour because some of them hold positions of power or importance. I don't see anyone pointing out that a white person holds an important position. Why? Because it's accepted and expected. After 50 years, surely the same level of acceptance and expectation should be the same to POC! YT is full of recordings showing blatant racism. Racism by common people AND law makers. The ratio of POC occupying white collar employment is severely ill balanced in favour of white people. Racial profiling is evident worldwide. I believe that should the law (hypothetically speaking) abandon all statutes regarding racism, it wouldn't take long for the past 30 years of "tolerance/advancement" to be lost. I cannot understand or believe that racism still exists. People repeatedly say "we're in the 21st century", as though we are more evolved. No claim of being "evolved" can be put forward when something as basic as racism is still highly visible. If we had evolved, it wouldn't have needed laws to make racism illegal - our own intelligence would have abhorred it. 50 years of time = 30 years wasted. You and I ought not to be having this conversation. We wouldn't be having this conversation except for my fellow white race who think POC are second class citizens. Yes, I stand by my 1st statement - the change (or letting go) of racism is a long, drawn out process.
@@abepresume8132 Before I continue, let me make it clear - I am neither "little" nor "self righteous". Thank you. "The pen is mightier than the sword" is a fine line by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. The idea of "killing" the white supremist is neither positive or forward thinking and has the hallmark to create civil unrest on a large scale. You think my comment to be worthless/pointless and ineffective, I totally disagree. If you look back in history, time and again it's been shown that peaceful, powerful and determined people DO change the world for the better. So, I will continue leaving comments (or speaking out when I witness ANY "ism"). The alternative is to say or do nothing, and that's not right (or kill people - which would only make me as bad as them!). Solidarity and zero tolerance needs to be practiced by all non racist people, then change could happen.
I spent a good lot of my developmental years in Alabama. I know that going to school in the 70s & 80s isn't the same as growling up in the him crow south. I'm white as well. However I was fortunate enough to go to a large school district in Mobile where I was fortunate enough to have black teachers who would have grown up in segregation. They were hands down some of the best, most caring teachers I ever had. I owe a lot to them for their contribution to my love of learning and desire to continue on in school. As an aside, my parents were from North of Alabama & we eventually moved to Ohio for work. The quality of education was so much less in these supposedly advanced & better school districts than what inreceived in Alabama. Not once did I have a teacher who made me feel like they cared about me the same way the lovely black ladies I had teach me to be empathetic and fully human in Alabama. I miss these dear ladies every day. They were examples of the types of teachers these lovely people are describing. They would never have gone out of their way to make you dread & hate school like so many teachers I had after we left Alabama. They would have grown up & learned under the same kind of teachers these people did. They also taught me that my ignorant, bigoted family was wrong on every level and about every stereotype they tried to teach me.
My dad grew up in sylacauga Alabama during segregation and integration. His black teachers pushed them so hard and would beat them. Your lucky the black teachers were nice to you.
There was still a separation between colors when it came to friend groups and certain sports. Outside of that, classes and day to day interactions were positive with very little racial tension. I’d say the demographics were 60% black and 35% white. Black students were encouraged to take high level classes and many were successful and went to colleges such as Longwood and ODU. I myself went to James Madison University and have sense graduated. I have great love for the area
Thank you so much for this view of our not so distant historical past. This interview was very insightful and provides a look into the mindset of our nation at that time.
My mother says the same things about black teachers. She finished school before desegregation of schools happened in Florida. She says all the time that desegregation of the schools didn't help black students (or the black teachers who lost their jobs). The black teachers were part of the community and cared for their students. The white teachers who just a few months before were protesting desegregation -what do you think they'd do for their black students?
Racism, income disparity, climate change, medical care, religious beliefs, foreign policy, etc. are all very tough issues. There are no simple answers. I'm a white, Jewish, retired inner city school teacher. Teaching was a tough gig. I'm not sure how I managed to survive, both as a teacher and as a person. My advice is to be moderate in all things (including your politics). I'm 76 now and feel very grateful and lucky that my life has turned out so well. These are good people; they have my deepest admiration.
I was blessed to have a few teachers like they described when I was in elementary school. They're all retired now but those teachers made a world of a difference in kids like me back then.❤️
This actually made a lot of sense... people that say they dont want to learn about history because history is boring is just lazy. This story really opens up some mental doors about how people truly felt about things during the darker days of American history
This interview is solid gold. We need more of this! Personally, I am sick and tired of politicians, celebrities, talk-show hosts and major media personalities spoon feeding us their convenient and questionable social justice tripe just because it makes them feel good about themselves. (and more importantly keeps them in the spotlight so they can promote their careers and make more money). We need real people expressing their opinions and views based on their very personal experiences as children, adults and parents. Let's see an interview with a Native couple, Hispanic couple, Asian couple and yes even a white couple. Let's hear everyone's story and figure out our own path forward without the noise of corrupt, manipulative social parasites.
Mr. Hoffman I just found your channel today. Based on traditional narratives I wouldn't necessarily identify with some of your subjects, but just hearing their stories gives me pause to think and contemplate. I hope some young folks will pick up your lead and carry it forward. Thank you for sharing your life's work.
You mean a European couple. What people call white are Europeans. If we're going to call black people, African American and we call other people Asian Americans then the people from Europe are European Americans. What this country calls Hispanic are American-Americans. Because they are Native Indigenous Aboriginal Americans who speak either Spanish, English or French depending what country of the 34 independent countries in America that they are born in. And that because of colonization since 1492. Although in Mexico, the US Southwest, Guatemala, Peru,Bolivia and Brasil the original Americans still speak the Aboriginal Americans languages in the millions.
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I have made several videos already posted that give a sense of how I do interviews and succeed the way that I do. If you search the word "interview"on my RUclips channel you will find many tips. David Hoffman - filmmaker
I listened to a lot of audio clips in the National Archives recorded in the 1950's of black people who were on the other side of segregation. When asked how they felt now living in a de-segregated town they answered that they preferred it the way it used to be. They were happier just living with all blacks. That said a lot to me.
And it might have stayed that way if separate but equal, which had been promised by the "white" leadership" had ever even come close to being real. But as you know, it wasn't. It was decidedly unequal in just about every important way. David Hoffman - filmmaker
I’m 21 and in my education experience we never had a black teacher in any of our schools and I went to many different schools. This disappoints me, how much history has been deprived from my generation and past generations. We need equal rights and everybody should be learning about black history in school.
This was my experience at Atlanta Job Corps. I had never experienced teachers that cared about me in the way that they're describing. It was like having 300 parents.
I thought this was a good interview until the end when he started talking about power and economics. Now I think it should be required viewing for all Americans.
moz zo the problem was when integrated happened their own community business suffered. Black patroned white businesses and their counterparts did not support Black business at all. That was the biggest mistake economically, they should have kept their dollars within their own communities. My parents born and grew up in segregation into their teenage years in Alabama, came up here due to racism and still faced racism. This story is very familiar
moz zo I need to clarify came up North to New England Massachusetts for opportunity they didn’t receive in the south. They still faced racism, but things were better.
This historian lived through Jim Crow and I found his interview the most powerful in explaining what he saw and why.
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These are my parents. They are very much alive, thank God! Thanks for watching and for the positive comments!
Wow thank God for them
I second that, what wonderful people your parents are, you are very blessed to still have them!
Please tell them how inspiring they were in this interview. As a retired teacher, I loved hearing about how important their teachers were to them in shaping them as people. They did them proud.
Lovely. So blessed to have heard their voices 💓
What a cute couple. Great people
That’s one beautiful woman there. Full of grace.
So u sayin 30 yrs from now u cant imagine Cardi B and Meg the Stallion being like her
She is a beautiful woman spiritually and intellectually
I’d have been honoured to have Mr and Mrs Williams as my neighbours they are wise and balanced and any community are better for people that hold these qualities.
Right! I was just thinking, I would love to have these two as my neighbor!
Thank you!
I love these two fine people. They gave a lot of insight into what is was like then.
These people are lovely. So well thought out and expressive. I'd love to have even half of their moral character.
When I attended desegregated school for the first time in middle school, I found the 2 black teachers who taught me seemed to bring that whole person focus to their classroom.
It was in contrast to the lecture and test approach of the white teachers.
It's subtle and I think that most people didn't notice.
Doing attendance with a "good morning" is a fantastic way to greet students and make them feel welcome. As a teacher, I am definitely going to start doing this! ❤️
Me too
I'm shocked to hear schools don't start good morning anymore
@@brown4692 I am to!
This was 1989. Such an insightful, intelligent, enlightening, thoughtful discourse. I feel depressed about the lack of progress and regression since then. I wonder how they feel 30 + years later.
David your work makes me pay attention. But THIS one is one of the BEST!!!! When i was a kid, i lived in wiltpn, ct. In the 60's, they bused in kids from bridgeport, ct, about 15 miles away. A fascinating time. Your films are FASCINATING!!!!!
Thank you so much for saying so, Milt.
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I lived in Darien from the mid 50s to the early 60s and moved to Fairfield after that. We lived on the proverbial wrong side of the tracks in Darien.
Miriam Bucholtz my Dad taught school in Fairfield CT - Marcus White (Sr)
Their pride is astounding! Here are a set that do not pity themselves
13:25 that’s the point of this talk. Black teachers taught them to love themselves and who they are
Of the Caribbean, I believe most Black people do not "pity" themselves. If you are not on the receiving end of racism, please do not make statements like that.
@@jenniferj6580 facts. Smiling in the face of people who would spit in yours doesn't need pity. I can't believe he said that shit
@@dlitefulone I know what you mean. Apparently, it is assumed or believed people think Black folk seek "pity." Nothing could be further from the truth. The ❤ filmmaker believes it too.
@@jenniferj6580 Most black folks don’t seek pity and are usually very proud people. However, mainly among the younger generations I see a lot of black people who maybe not all of them are looking for pity exactly, but they are looking for attention to their struggles. While most average US citizens do struggle, lately younger minorities have been basically saying that no white people struggle and even if they do they can’t receive pity and shouldn’t dare seek it. Which, no one should seek pity, but the same exact people saying this are wanting nothing but pity for their own struggles. Instead of standing together and facing all our issues head on, together, they’re causing a deeper divide. A divide the US cannot afford or the whole world is gonna end up paying for it. So yeah, there’s plenty of people seeking pity for things they may or may not have even experienced. Victimizing themselves. It’s actually getting pretty dangerous.
This is beautiful!! Thus goes to show that when we as a community stick together in our schools, churches and just as a people in general, we can shape and form our own community into something spectacular!! We as a people had so much pride about ourselves, the way we walked, talked, dressed and just carried ourselves. I truly believe it's bc we were teaching our own and caring for our own. Can we get back to that? We've got to stick together!!!
Black women were and are still abused big time by black men, and black children were and are still abused by both.
A lot of black women are finally speaking up about it - they're all over the internet - and that's a trend that will continue.
Before the internet, people both black and white, kept a lot of dark secrets and pretended their lives were great all the time - It was the culture back then to pretend all was good when it wasn't.
I swear sometimes I get the feeling that you're an old friend of mine...such nostalgia!
A nice feeling. Thank you.
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My mom's from Roanoke...and she tells some stories too!
Luv u David Hoffman, keep up the good work, keep on posting old films. Keep showing peoples stories. Thank you.
Thank you, I will
My grandmother was affected by her school being shut down in FarmVille. Thank you I greatly appreciate this video ✨
I can't wait to sit down and properly watch this! I never fail to enjoy your documentaries, David. Pastor Williams and Lyllie seem like such wonderful people.
Thank you❤️
@@pwforson Sending love to you and your parents ❤
I will NEVER understand how a human being can treat another human being with racist contempt solely based on the pigment in their skin. I grew up listening to my father talk about "the n*****s" this and that. One day, I asked if my friend Joyce could spend the night. I'll never forget hearing my dad say "Hell no!" and after I ran to my room crying, my mom came in and said, "Honey, it's just not DONE!" (I found out years later that my Mom was just going along with my Dad-scared of him.) But THAT was the moment that I knew that racism was wrong. RACISM IS LEARNED, FOLKS, AND IT IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!
Thank you for sharing!
Gina Lopez The song Carefully Taught from South Pacific lays it all out. You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late...shameful.
They learn from their parents
U gotta understand the psyche of the Pheomelanin mind...these ppl have a long history of brutal conflicts and famines and disease and they needed Eumelanin ppl for global conquest and to stabilize their civilizations with wealth/resources and since they have discovered the pyramids and other ancient Eumelanin civilizations they understand that if they relinquish control of Eumelanin ppl then they will go back into the dark ages of Pheomelanin poverty
@@willysweetwonkajoe1432 if you think about it.. it's the kings and rulers that create conflict.. it's not necessary, except as a very effective method of mind control.. worries about those people over there, who, we are told, are coming to take our stuff.. rape our women, or men.. or both.. and.. while we watch those people over there.. our benevolent government gets all our stuff first.. but we are too worried about imaginary lines and "colors " and other happy horse feathers to notice.. it's not like built in to the human psyche.. it's called brainwashing
Thank you for your work filming valuable history such as this. I would listen to this wonderful couple all day.
I think Ive watched this video no fewer than 30 times. Whenever I miss home and my grandmother I listen to them. So few people talk like this anymore. Just the sound of their words is a therapy.
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I don't know these people but I love them. They remind me of my family. I am them and they are me. Thank you again Mr. Hoffman for sharing this!!
Thank you for sharing this.🤎
I wish all children and youth today had teachers like those. But those teachers had 100% backing of the parents at home. No disrespect tolerated. Education was respected and deemed necessary for a good future. I have witnessed both racism and classism in life. It makes me feel sad. I worry for the future for all young people today.
Excellent observation!
And what did you do when you witnessed racism and classism?
These are the things you have control over.
@@geekmeee We should all be good human beings. At the same time, a man should not pass his burdens onto others.
@@liamsandal6360
Yeah, that’s what they told me too.
It’s a nice quaint thought, but looking at history,
in the real world, that’s not possible.
It doesn’t show up anywhere,
that makes a difference.
I think they call that:
‘Being so heavenly bound, your no earthly good.’
And even Jesus asked, "Why do you say I am good?
God alone is good."
@@geekmeee Oh please. Exodus 2:2 says וַתַּהַר הָֽאִשָּׁה וַתֵּלֶד בֵּן וַתֵּרֶא אֹתוֹ כִּי־טוֹב הוּא
My first language is Hebrew. It says that "the woman gave birth and conceived a son and she saw him that he was good". This is speaking of Yocheved's conception of the child Moses.
Jesus was a popular Jewish preacher who was a fanatic in all things. He also told his mother, "Who is my mother, and who is my father" when the Torah commands the Jews to "honor thy father and thy mother".
In attempting to be more holy than the Torah, he committed all manner of blasphemy. Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew, and taught his gospel to Jews. But after his death, Paul of Tarsis (whose real name was Sha'ul) started a new religion in Jesus' name, although Sha'ul had never met Jesus. This is one of the reasons Thomas Jefferson called Paul the biggest fraud in history.
Don't try to argue Scripture with me. I have an M.A. in Old Testament Studies and used to be a pastor.
I stay subscribed to you because I dig a perspective I can never have and as an artist I respect you. This is the best video by far, americans can be so much more than they think
Americans can be so much more than they think. So true.
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Your videos are simply amazing, you are able to show to people all around the world all sides, all colors, all opinions. Thank you so much!
Thankyou so very very much for sharing. I'm 62 and I feel so robbed but where I was robbed I pray my children and grandchildren will take heed to words of wisdom from our elders and listen attentively. Again...thankyou.
Beautiful is the right word, and such lucid thinkers. Thank you for sharing. I love her accent too.
I remember those days growing up in New Orleans. Our black teachers loved us like their own children... I especially remembered my 4th grade teacher Mrs. Lewis she had a saying, 1. Do Not use the Lords name in vain in my class room. 2. Speak when you are spoken to , and come when you are called. What a blessing to have someone love you, more than you loved yourself. R.I.P. Black Women, and Black Men who taught us..
What an inspirational couple. After listening to them I can see the value of Black children being schooled by black teachers
Thank you for providing these priceless interviews
Thank you so much for sharing, my family is from Farmville Virginia, the BOOKER ‘s, the Miller , Thornton’s, I have passed this video on to my grandchildren. Again thank you for this video
“Somebodyness” !
I love that ... I could listen to them all day ... what a great dose of reality
She was prophetic at the end talking about a future generation that wouldn’t care about education and the demise of family. I sure wish I could have heard the teacher he had in k,4&6 grades with all his Black History stories!! I spent my youth reading them in great fascination! Still do. Was this wonderful lady in another video but a bit older? Such a mesmerizing kindness about her. I wish I’d had her as one of my teachers! So glad you captured their story, David!! ♥️
Enjoy listening to folks that actually been through something. Powerful testimony!
I want to listen to an audiobook narrated by someone with a soothing voice and accent like this. I could listen to most things they say.
I also love a lot of thier points on holistically teaching children.
Thanks for this interesting interview. Some of your films i watch more than once. This will be one of them.
Thank you Peter.
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God bless all teachers who bestow confidence, self esteem, and courage for our children of the future.
Thanks This is Awesome
Beautiful, intelligent and aware people 💖 I love them!
These are the kind of teachers that inspire me to help bring out the Best in my own students. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾
I could listen to this many times over. The beautiful couple put me in mind of my parents and those with whom they associated. I am so thankful to have grown up well rounded, taught to respect others, no matter who they were.
While I have complicated feelings about the boomer generation, your interviews are beautiful to watch to understand the context of the generation. No doubt younger generations hate to imagine it, but we will one day also be judged for what we did in our youth and the impact it has on the world. It's a careful study in humanity, growth, success, and failures. History is so important and I appreciate you sharing it with us.
Thank you.
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I would loved to have had such nice people as next door neighbors...My Great Grandfather lived in a small town in southern Ky. When my mother was a child she told me as an adult anyone was welcomed into his home ...Did not matter what color of skin or where you where from..She was a child in the 1940's..and sadly the town did have some awful signs posted back then...But no one would say anything against My Great Grandfather...Not because he was wealthy...he was not ,but he did have a lot of land that some he gave away for a park..He made rocking chairs.chairs,stools and baskets..He was a hard worker and a very kind man...I lost him as a child ..I still miss him to this day..His name was Issac Newton Likens....I called him pa..
Thank you for such a meaningful conversation..
My good sir! Thank you for this. This is Exactly the experience & story types my parents told.
Again, 🙏🏽 thank you.
Beautiful couple... I could listen to them like my grandparents...
Hearing their story, I've always said that what they described here is now lacking is/has been our problem! I always said segregation was beneficial to our race! Those black teachers .. their educating was on a whole other level! Look at how these two amazing individuals turned out! AND they captured valuable details that they could pass on! This interview is priceless..
Thank you for the compliment on my interview.
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My father grew up segregated and he said black people did better back then versus now. Black people took care of one another. He is 85 years old.
Honestly didn’t know this existed. I am so thankful for this info!
Two lovely people... Actually, three. Thank you, David. ❤️
Those in powerful positions have become gatekeepers and grifters off of their own people😢
She peaks eloquently. Great message.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT : Not all Black people speak Ebonics. ALOT of us are educated.
@David Hoffman such powerful videos that you have, I am amazed, you really have a heart, I Salut you.
And I hope you carry on being a human with feelings.
I'm not American, but do appreciate regardless, where, what and who people are regardless of colour or creed. At the end we are all the same sir. Let's love help and respect each other. 🙏🏼👍🏼✌🏼
My opinion, is that the black communities need more people like this and that the current day doesn't offer this perspective in the poor black communities anyway. Just the fact that they are an older black couple that lived their lives together means a lot and imagine a whole community of people like them..
Your assumption is that [the black community] does not have more people like this: i would ask you to question the source of that thought.
Jack Dawson government statistics show that fewer black people get married today than at any other time since the ending of slavery. I don’t know why this fact is, but it’s a fact nonetheless.
What your referring to is the good southern blacks. Like when Oprah went to southern towns and the whites said our blacks are just fine here with noing there place and here you come with your cameras stirring up trouble. The northern blacks in the 1950,s were just as segregated. They just weren’t as afraid as southern blacks. There are good people just like these I’ve seen on tv with the protests going. Right now. I’ve heard them speak and acknowledge their pain.
Daisy there are Black people outside the US, and declining marriage (and birth) rates are more generational than racial. And besides, plenty of marriages don’t result in supportive homes for children.
As before: question your assumptions.
Jack Dawson because they don’t and if they do they not listening they out burning shit they won’t help them the Democrats want them to act that way want them to feel like a victim rather than a survivor cause they can set off a victim with anything but a survivor has common sense and think for them selves 🗣
Southern University and A&M College taught me so much I didn’t know. When I would do independence reading and research and learned bout our people struggled and triumphs, now when look at our conditions today, we have lost that pride our people pridefully lived with.
I express my thanks sir for the time you give to share these informative videos online for the world to see. Some of your videos are on Twitter, which is how I searched and became aware of your channel.
This highlights the incredibly slow speed st which "change" takes place. It was fascinating to hear their story.
Wouldn't it have been amazing to have watched this vid and been shocked at their journey? How can I, or anyone else, be shocked/stunned when the prejudism and racism is still prevalent today!
The elitist/privileged and "better than" attitude of the majority of white people hasn't diminished.
Much more change is needed.
We are brothers and sisters.
Btw, I'm a white woman and despise racism.
You are joking right? You think the attitude of white people towards black people 50 plus years ago is the same attitude they have today? No, it's not. Look around you. Look at culture. White people would not have elected a black president back then, but they did in 2008 AND 2012. Black music, rap and hip hop, reigns supreme. Back then you could call a black person a derogatory name and no one would care. You do that today and you will get your ass beat, most likely by a white person. Black people are at many levels of power and success that they could have only dreamed about back then. So, no, the attitudes white people have towards black people is NOT the same today as it was then.
@@Martin-gz4qn I didn't say that attitudes of white people towards black people hasn't changed in 50 years. I said "the incredibly slow speed at which change takes place".
Yes it has changed (a little).
Many white people like, and enjoy, black inspired music and have popularised it.
Yes, racial slurs are, in some places, punishable by the judicial system.
In fact I agree with all you have pointed out, however, POC are not being granted a huge favour because some of them hold positions of power or importance.
I don't see anyone pointing out that a white person holds an important position.
Why? Because it's accepted and expected.
After 50 years, surely the same level of acceptance and expectation should be the same to POC!
YT is full of recordings showing blatant racism. Racism by common people AND law makers.
The ratio of POC occupying white collar employment is severely ill balanced in favour of white people.
Racial profiling is evident worldwide.
I believe that should the law (hypothetically speaking) abandon all statutes regarding racism, it wouldn't take long for the past 30 years of "tolerance/advancement" to be lost.
I cannot understand or believe that racism still exists.
People repeatedly say "we're in the 21st century", as though we are more evolved. No claim of being "evolved" can be put forward when something as basic as racism is still highly visible.
If we had evolved, it wouldn't have needed laws to make racism illegal - our own intelligence would have abhorred it.
50 years of time = 30 years wasted.
You and I ought not to be having this conversation. We wouldn't be having this conversation except for my fellow white race who think POC are second class citizens.
Yes, I stand by my 1st statement - the change (or letting go) of racism is a long, drawn out process.
Chrissy Moss thanks for speaking eloquently on the topic.
I believe the rich don’t care about anyone who is poor regardless of race.
@@abepresume8132 Before I continue, let me make it clear - I am neither "little" nor "self righteous". Thank you.
"The pen is mightier than the sword" is a fine line by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. The idea of "killing" the white supremist is neither positive or forward thinking and has the hallmark to create civil unrest on a large scale.
You think my comment to be worthless/pointless and ineffective, I totally disagree.
If you look back in history, time and again it's been shown that peaceful, powerful and determined people DO change the world for the better.
So, I will continue leaving comments (or speaking out when I witness ANY "ism"). The alternative is to say or do nothing, and that's not right (or kill people - which would only make me as bad as them!).
Solidarity and zero tolerance needs to be practiced by all non racist people, then change could happen.
I spent a good lot of my developmental years in Alabama. I know that going to school in the 70s & 80s isn't the same as growling up in the him crow south. I'm white as well. However I was fortunate enough to go to a large school district in Mobile where I was fortunate enough to have black teachers who would have grown up in segregation. They were hands down some of the best, most caring teachers I ever had. I owe a lot to them for their contribution to my love of learning and desire to continue on in school.
As an aside, my parents were from North of Alabama & we eventually moved to Ohio for work. The quality of education was so much less in these supposedly advanced & better school districts than what inreceived in Alabama. Not once did I have a teacher who made me feel like they cared about me the same way the lovely black ladies I had teach me to be empathetic and fully human in Alabama. I miss these dear ladies every day. They were examples of the types of teachers these lovely people are describing. They would never have gone out of their way to make you dread & hate school like so many teachers I had after we left Alabama. They would have grown up & learned under the same kind of teachers these people did. They also taught me that my ignorant, bigoted family was wrong on every level and about every stereotype they tried to teach me.
My dad grew up in sylacauga Alabama during segregation and integration. His black teachers pushed them so hard and would beat them.
Your lucky the black teachers were nice to you.
Thanks for sharing the wonderful information.
I’m from Farmville! Love the videos and the history of where I’m from. I graduated 2014 and I have to say it’s beautiful how the world has changed
What’s it like now?
There was still a separation between colors when it came to friend groups and certain sports. Outside of that, classes and day to day interactions were positive with very little racial tension. I’d say the demographics were 60% black and 35% white. Black students were encouraged to take high level classes and many were successful and went to colleges such as Longwood and ODU. I myself went to James Madison University and have sense graduated. I have great love for the area
To clarify I myself am a white male and considered it a privilege to have been the minority at Prince Edward
I had black teachers in High School. They were great.
Thanks for a DIFFERENT point of view, it makes a lot of sense in many ways.
I learned much from my black teachers, it was an enjoyment to learn not only the educational stuff, but also some of life's lessons.
Thank you so much for this view of our not so distant historical past. This interview was very insightful and provides a look into the mindset of our nation at that time.
"Where it proudly, whatever race you are " This couple are awesome.
Great video. I will share it.
I could talk with this couple for hours.
My mother says the same things about black teachers. She finished school before desegregation of schools happened in Florida. She says all the time that desegregation of the schools didn't help black students (or the black teachers who lost their jobs). The black teachers were part of the community and cared for their students. The white teachers who just a few months before were protesting desegregation -what do you think they'd do for their black students?
They feel like some of my relatives, I’m sure many of you can relate. It’s wild to think this isn’t that long ago
Racism, income disparity, climate change, medical care, religious beliefs, foreign policy, etc. are all very tough issues. There are no simple answers. I'm a white, Jewish, retired inner city school teacher. Teaching was a tough gig. I'm not sure how I managed to survive, both as a teacher and as a person. My advice is to be moderate in all things (including your politics). I'm 76 now and feel very grateful and lucky that my life has turned out so well. These are good people; they have my deepest admiration.
Thank you David for this genuine insight into the past..
I was blessed to have a few teachers like they described when I was in elementary school. They're all retired now but those teachers made a world of a difference in kids like me back then.❤️
this is amazing. incredible content thank you for uploading
This actually made a lot of sense... people that say they dont want to learn about history because history is boring is just lazy. This story really opens up some mental doors about how people truly felt about things during the darker days of American history
These two are amazing and right! Wow. We all need to hear what they have to say.
Thank you David.
Thank you.
Thank you for posting this!
This interview is solid gold. We need more of this! Personally, I am sick and tired of politicians, celebrities, talk-show hosts and major media personalities spoon feeding us their convenient and questionable social justice tripe just because it makes them feel good about themselves. (and more importantly keeps them in the spotlight so they can promote their careers and make more money). We need real people expressing their opinions and views based on their very personal experiences as children, adults and parents. Let's see an interview with a Native couple, Hispanic couple, Asian couple and yes even a white couple. Let's hear everyone's story and figure out our own path forward without the noise of corrupt, manipulative social parasites.
Mr. Hoffman I just found your channel today. Based on traditional narratives I wouldn't necessarily identify with some of your subjects, but just hearing their stories gives me pause to think and contemplate. I hope some young folks will pick up your lead and carry it forward. Thank you for sharing your life's work.
You mean a European couple. What people call white are Europeans. If we're going to call black people, African American and we call other people Asian Americans then the people from Europe are European Americans. What this country calls Hispanic are American-Americans. Because they are Native Indigenous Aboriginal Americans who speak either Spanish, English or French depending what country of the 34 independent countries in America that they are born in. And that because of colonization since 1492. Although in Mexico, the US Southwest, Guatemala, Peru,Bolivia and Brasil the original Americans still speak the Aboriginal Americans languages in the millions.
Im learning so much from these videos, about the next county over. Kids need to see this
Thank you Teshia for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that RUclips is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts.
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David could you do a video on how to do interviews like this? I would love to get these kinds of stories from my own grandparents before they pass.
I have made several videos already posted that give a sense of how I do interviews and succeed the way that I do. If you search the word "interview"on my RUclips channel you will find many tips.
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the man has the smoothest silkiest skin that I've ever seen
That beard is crazy on point too
Black don’t crack
I listened to a lot of audio clips in the National Archives recorded in the 1950's of black people who were on the other side of segregation. When asked how they felt now living in a de-segregated town they answered that they preferred it the way it used to be. They were happier just living with all blacks. That said a lot to me.
And it might have stayed that way if separate but equal, which had been promised by the "white" leadership" had ever even come close to being real. But as you know, it wasn't. It was decidedly unequal in just about every important way.
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Yes, I heard from several teachers that it was better in some ways during segregation. One lady mentioned that education was better then too...
I’m 21 and in my education experience we never had a black teacher in any of our schools and I went to many different schools. This disappoints me, how much history has been deprived from my generation and past generations. We need equal rights and everybody should be learning about black history in school.
This was my experience at Atlanta Job Corps. I had never experienced teachers that cared about me in the way that they're describing. It was like having 300 parents.
Goodness what a beautiful couple
The 'beam of light' moment. The moment when light breaks through the shades.
Excellent. Thanks
David, again great job, Thank you, showing this to my grandkids, three are black.
You mean biracial ,if one of the parents are white.
On probably my 20th time watching this one.
I thought this was a good interview until the end when he started talking about power and economics. Now I think it should be required viewing for all Americans.
What a beautiful couple. I'd say the oppressors are the ones who are left behind.
Wow! What beautiful human beings. I'd love to meet their descendants.
I put as much money In black hands as I can. I’m tired of not having a complete community .
The end was definitely the best part.
Yes the grass is greener on their side. Until you get there and find out the grass is DEAD!!! 👀😳😨😱😢 BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE!!! 🙏❤🇺🇸😊
moz zo the problem was when integrated happened their own community business suffered. Black patroned white businesses and their counterparts did not support Black business at all. That was the biggest mistake economically, they should have kept their dollars within their own communities. My parents born and grew up in segregation into their teenage years in Alabama, came up here due to racism and still faced racism. This story is very familiar
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Very sad. We are ALL HUMAN!!! PERIOD!!! Bless you and yours!!! IN JESUS' NAME!!! 🙏❤🇺🇸😊
moz zo I need to clarify came up North to New England Massachusetts for opportunity they didn’t receive in the south. They still faced racism, but things were better.
A segregated school system would have been better for me ,I would not have been traumatized by racist teachers
Wow this is amazing these people are so wise and I so see this today after generations of lost people and their so right😟
I love their accents. That drawl.
Truly fine people. In every sense of the word fine.
I love your work
Tks for sharing! I grew up like this too