@@carbonfiber8071 I still have my 69 Shelby mustang, sorry I sold my 1970 351 Cleveland 4. Come to Road America Elkhart Lake Wi watch some real racers sometime
@@tommiemoser8389 "ass kicking over and over again" ??? let's see... 1964: le mans 1964: (3 ford GT40 entered but did not finish the race) results: 1-2-3 ferrari 275P and 330P ,4th place Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe,then 5+6 ferrari 250GTO Sebring 12 Hours 1964: (2 ford gt40 were to enter the race but did not attend) results: 1-2-3 ferrari 275P and 330P ,4th place Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, 6,8 and 9th place Shelby Cobra roadster, and 7thplace ferarri 250GTO,9th place porsche 904 GTS 1964 Nerburgring 1000 Kilometres: (none of Ford GT40 finished the race) results: ferrari 1-2,4 and 7th places (1st a 275 P the rest 250GTO) , 3,5-6,8-9-10-11-12 all porsches 904 GTS Reims 12 Hours 1964: (3 GT40 entered but none finished) results: 1-2-3-4 all ferrari 250, 5-6-7 porsche 904 GTS. 1964 Nassau trophy: (of 2 GT40s only one started the race and finished 26th) results: 1st Chevrolet corvette grand sport ,2-3 ferrari 250LM, 4-5 Shelby Cobra 289. 1965: le mans 1965 (none of the GT40s finished the race) results: 1-2-3 place ferrari 250LM and 275 GTB Daytona 2000 1965: 1,3 GT40 , 2,5 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe,5th porshe 904 GTS Sebring 12 Hours 1965: 1st Chaparral 2A Chevrolet,2 ford GT40,3rd ferrari 250LM,4th Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. Monza 1000 Kilometres 1965: 1-2 ferrari 330P2, 3rd GT40. 1966: le mans 1966: (2 Ferrari 330 P3 cars raced none finished) results: 1-2-3 GT40,4-5-6 porsche 906. Daytona 24 Hour 1966: 1-2-3 Ford GT40 ,4th ferrari 365 P2,4th Ford GT40. 1966_12_Hours_of_Sebring: (3 Ferrari 330 P3 cars raced but none finished) results: 1-2-3 Ford GT40,4th Porsche 906 (2.0L Flat-6 !) Monza 1000 Kilometres 1966: 1st ferrari 330P3, 2-3 ford GT40. Spa 1000 Kilometres 1966 1st ferrari 330P3 ,2-3-4-5 ford GT40. 1967: le mans 1967: 1st GT40 ,2-3 ferrari 330P4,4th another GT40. Daytona 24 Hours 1967: results: 1-2 ferrari P3/4 and P4, 3rd ferrari 412P,4-5 porsche 906,6-7-8 Ford GT40. Sebring 12 Hours 1967 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results: 1-2 ford GT40,2-3 porsche 910,3rd another GT 40,6-7 prorsche 906,8th yet another GT40. Monza 1000 Kilometres 1967: 1-2 ferrari 330P4,3rd porche 910,4th ferrari 412P,5th porsche 910,6th ford GT40. Silverstone International 1967: 1st ferrari 250LM, 2-3-4 GT40. Spa 1000 Kilometres 1967: 1st Mirage M1 (a ford GT40 "derivative") 2nd porshe 910,3rd ferrari 412P Targa Florio 1967: 1-2-3 porsche 910,4th ferrari dino 206P,5th ford GT40. Nurburgring 1000 Kilometres 1967: (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results: 1-2-3-4 porshe 910, two gt40 cars finished 7th and 8th. 1968: Daytona 24 Hours 1968 (4 GT40s entered but none finished) Results: 1-2-3 porsche 907 LH , a ferrari was at 8th place (250 LM) Sebring 12 Hours 1968 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results: 1-2 porsche 907 , an out of 4 GT40s that started one finished at 16th place. Monza 1000 Kilometres 1968 (no good ferraris raced here either) results: 1st ford GT40 , porsches and other brands in between and another GT40 in 7th place. Silverstone International 1968: 1-2 Lola T70 mk3,3rd GT40,4th ferarri 250LM. Nurburgring 1000 Kilometres 1968 (still no good ferraris in this race either!) results: porsches (908+907) at places 1-2 and 4th, ford GT40s at places 3 and 6 ,and an "alfa romeo T33" at 5th place. Spa 1000 Kilometres 1968 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results: 1st GT40 ,2-3 porsche 908,4th another GT40.
Why no specifics about this being an RCR replica? The fiberglass body looks great with nice attention to detail with the fake rivets which surprisingly you didn't point out.
The fake rivets were actually plastic. I was able to source original alloy rivets from an old Ferrari mechanic's relative and made a tool for them. We carefully peened them into place. Not really functional, but cool. We also opened up all the vents and used the rivets to hold the alloy strip in place. We'll be doing an update on the car in a future vid.
I'm not sure what happened but RCR no longer has this kit on thier website. I assume they got a cease and desist letter from Ferrari. I emailed them about the kit. They told me to call them but I never did.
If you are going to spend all that money to make a incredible custom replica, they should have put some kind of Ferrari V-12 in there! And if you HAD to use an LS, they should build a small displacement (For an LS) flat plane, high red line screamer for it! But It's still incredibly beautiful no matter the engine!
I agree, there are plenty of Ferrari V12 motors around, probably wouldn't have cost more than the crate motor and irrespective of the age and model of the engine, it would have been easy to make it sound correct or at least close enough.
@@jamesfairmind2247 Yeah, The car had to have cost a $100,000-200,000 to had build? I only see two Ferrari V-12s on ebay right now and they are quite modern, you'd have to modify them considerably to get a period correct looking intake/carb/FI setup on those. And those are in the $25,000-$30,000 USD range. But I do look on occasion when I have thoughts of various dream projects! With some patience and phone calls you could probably get a V-12 from a 365 or 412 sedan circa the 70s or 80s for $15K? When you make a car for the movies you need to be sure it's reliable and parts are available. You can't delay shooting for a month waiting on a part from Maranello. Computer graphics and sound editing get around the not right engine for the movie shoot. BUT, once the movie is done and the car sold to a private buyer/collector, spending another $50K on a custom Ferrari based motor would make a lot of sense!
@@Dylanear Plenty of good V12 Ferrari engines out there from all eras. Any could be fitted, even recent ones from insurance write off crashed cars etc, and if you are spending my guess $300k to build that replica, why not put an engine in that sounds correct? I very much doubt it would have cost even $10k more over the crate motor. It might have even been cheaper. As for looking correct re intakes etc, well firstly the engine is not on show in the film and secondly, actually if you picked the right motor such as one from a 1970's 365/400, it would not cost too much to convert. I know a guy who built a perfect replica of a 250GTO using all Ferrari running gear including engine and transmission and it was by far the cheapest part of the build. There are plenty of companies that can reproduce intake manifolds now with 3 d printing and CNC technology and the carbs are all still available. Opportunity missed in my opinion but the film world is weird. Some of the sound track in that film was wrong anyway as were a lot of details like no seat belts in the GT40 in one scene etc.
@@jamesfairmind2247 Actually, we have a 550 V12 and seriously considered swapping the LS for the V12. Problem was that it would be close to 100K to do a complete install(exhaust, electronics, chassis mods, cooling,etc. We would have ended up with more weight and less power. So, for now, we elected to do a custom stacked 4 pipe exhaust that is much closer in sound and appearance. Look for an update on this car in the near future. (and you're close on the cost ;) )
@@legendsofthehighway4422 I do look forward to any updates on this rolling art! For sure an LS is going to be pretty hard to beat for performance without an insane Ferrari V-12 build, but the the original car had what? 400 -450hp? So, that's not too hard to get with a modern fuel injection system, well set up ECU with WB02 and all the stuff they didn't even dream of in 1966 we have now to tune and program engine management. This doesn't have to be the fastest car in the world, but sounding, looking and driving as close as is practical to the original would be my goal for the car! If you are already in for $250k or more, what's another 50-75K! I don't think you'd have to put a whole $100k into it? Yeah, I get it, changes to the chassis engine mounts, hopefully existing cooling would just need some new piping, custom exhaust done right for a V-12 will not be cheap, Vintage looking ITBs, programable ECU that'll support 12 cylinders with plenty of dyno time and ECU setup, tuning, it's definiatley going to add up! Just depends on how picky you are, if you want everything just perfect and especially if you go to great lengths to make it as accurate looking as possible you could spend a fortune! But if you look for a good middle ground, the sweet spot of accuracy, performance, reliability and cost? I have to imagine you could come in well under $100k at the right shop. Call Ratarossa! He'd be an amazing resource for ideas of doing that job with plenty of actual Ferrari parts while not breaking the bank! I bet he'd love to help! with such a project! www.youtube.com/@Ratarossa
There' s something in the front overhang or the wheel arch that doesn't look right or the tail proportion. Somehow the "magic" is not there but still a good replica
Well, that would have been cool, but wildly impractical for movie duty. They never really show the engine in the cars and it would have dramatically increased cost. We've considered it as we have a 550 V12. It would require considerable modification and expense, resulting in a car with more weight and less power. To try and address the sound, we've since fabbed a stacked four pipe exhaust in the style of the original. Sounds much better, stand by for an update. Thanks
The steering wheel looks horrendous of all the the things to not get right that is a confusing detail to me to get wrong. Amazing build I love the car but that is low hanging fruit that got left to rot.
Actually, the steering wheel is a period correct(and correct for the original P3/4) Momo Monza wheel. Expensive and tough to find in this original, excellent condition. Now, of course, the removable hub is not correct-but I do like to be able to get in it. ;)
Yep, RCR. Somewhat surprised the guy didn't point that out instead of the vague comments about "bespoke chassis" and "company out of Detroit." Anyone who wants to write a check to Fran can get his own kit.
Yes RCR made 18 cars for the movie. Fran from RCR puts in LS3’s with Porsche transaxles. I am making one of their GT40s. The suspensions are like jewelry.
I had the honor in the mid 70's of riding in the Ferrari 412. It was the P3/4 with carbs instead of fuel injection. WHAT A RIDE!!!
For a movie car that's insane. I can't believe the detail that went into this.
LOL! Screw Ford and Ferrari... they put a Chevy engine in...
I think I saw this car on the golf course in Fountain Hills Arizona at the car show, really nice 👍
Ferrari may have lost to Ford on the track, but they won in the styling department!
Just a good ass kicking over and over again!!!! Go Daytona and gt-40 s
@@tommiemoser8389 The Daytona was a massaged AC, and the Gt40 was a massaged Lola. This from a Ford lover, just keeping it real.
@@carbonfiber8071 I still have my 69 Shelby mustang, sorry I sold my 1970 351 Cleveland 4.
Come to Road America Elkhart Lake Wi watch some real racers sometime
@@tommiemoser8389 "ass kicking over and over again" ??? let's see...
1964:
le mans 1964: (3 ford GT40 entered but did not finish the race) results:
1-2-3 ferrari 275P and 330P ,4th place Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe,then 5+6 ferrari 250GTO
Sebring 12 Hours 1964: (2 ford gt40 were to enter the race but did not attend) results:
1-2-3 ferrari 275P and 330P ,4th place Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe,
6,8 and 9th place Shelby Cobra roadster, and 7thplace ferarri 250GTO,9th place porsche 904 GTS
1964 Nerburgring 1000 Kilometres: (none of Ford GT40 finished the race) results:
ferrari 1-2,4 and 7th places (1st a 275 P the rest 250GTO) , 3,5-6,8-9-10-11-12 all porsches 904 GTS
Reims 12 Hours 1964: (3 GT40 entered but none finished) results:
1-2-3-4 all ferrari 250, 5-6-7 porsche 904 GTS.
1964 Nassau trophy: (of 2 GT40s only one started the race and finished 26th) results:
1st Chevrolet corvette grand sport ,2-3 ferrari 250LM, 4-5 Shelby Cobra 289.
1965:
le mans 1965 (none of the GT40s finished the race) results: 1-2-3 place ferrari 250LM and 275 GTB
Daytona 2000 1965: 1,3 GT40 , 2,5 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe,5th porshe 904 GTS
Sebring 12 Hours 1965: 1st Chaparral 2A Chevrolet,2 ford GT40,3rd ferrari 250LM,4th Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe.
Monza 1000 Kilometres 1965: 1-2 ferrari 330P2, 3rd GT40.
1966:
le mans 1966: (2 Ferrari 330 P3 cars raced none finished) results:
1-2-3 GT40,4-5-6 porsche 906.
Daytona 24 Hour 1966: 1-2-3 Ford GT40 ,4th ferrari 365 P2,4th Ford GT40.
1966_12_Hours_of_Sebring: (3 Ferrari 330 P3 cars raced but none finished) results:
1-2-3 Ford GT40,4th Porsche 906 (2.0L Flat-6 !)
Monza 1000 Kilometres 1966: 1st ferrari 330P3, 2-3 ford GT40.
Spa 1000 Kilometres 1966 1st ferrari 330P3 ,2-3-4-5 ford GT40.
1967:
le mans 1967: 1st GT40 ,2-3 ferrari 330P4,4th another GT40.
Daytona 24 Hours 1967: results:
1-2 ferrari P3/4 and P4, 3rd ferrari 412P,4-5 porsche 906,6-7-8 Ford GT40.
Sebring 12 Hours 1967 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results:
1-2 ford GT40,2-3 porsche 910,3rd another GT 40,6-7 prorsche 906,8th yet another GT40.
Monza 1000 Kilometres 1967: 1-2 ferrari 330P4,3rd porche 910,4th ferrari 412P,5th porsche 910,6th ford GT40.
Silverstone International 1967: 1st ferrari 250LM, 2-3-4 GT40.
Spa 1000 Kilometres 1967: 1st Mirage M1 (a ford GT40 "derivative") 2nd porshe 910,3rd ferrari 412P
Targa Florio 1967: 1-2-3 porsche 910,4th ferrari dino 206P,5th ford GT40.
Nurburgring 1000 Kilometres 1967: (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results:
1-2-3-4 porshe 910, two gt40 cars finished 7th and 8th.
1968:
Daytona 24 Hours 1968 (4 GT40s entered but none finished) Results:
1-2-3 porsche 907 LH , a ferrari was at 8th place (250 LM)
Sebring 12 Hours 1968 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results:
1-2 porsche 907 , an out of 4 GT40s that started one finished at 16th place.
Monza 1000 Kilometres 1968 (no good ferraris raced here either) results: 1st ford GT40 , porsches and other brands in between and another GT40 in 7th place.
Silverstone International 1968: 1-2 Lola T70 mk3,3rd GT40,4th ferarri 250LM.
Nurburgring 1000 Kilometres 1968 (still no good ferraris in this race either!) results:
porsches (908+907) at places 1-2 and 4th, ford GT40s at places 3 and 6 ,and an "alfa romeo T33" at 5th place.
Spa 1000 Kilometres 1968 (none of the good ferrari cars raced in that race) results:
1st GT40 ,2-3 porsche 908,4th another GT40.
@@tommiemoser8389 I've got a FFR GTM, you might want to start your lap now...
Why no specifics about this being an RCR replica? The fiberglass body looks great with nice attention to detail with the fake rivets which surprisingly you didn't point out.
The fake rivets were actually plastic. I was able to source original alloy rivets from an old Ferrari mechanic's relative and made a tool for them. We carefully peened them into place. Not really functional, but cool. We also opened up all the vents and used the rivets to hold the alloy strip in place. We'll be doing an update on the car in a future vid.
I'm not sure what happened but RCR no longer has this kit on thier website. I assume they got a cease and desist letter from Ferrari. I emailed them about the kit. They told me to call them but I never did.
Of course it has an LS.
I’ve seen one with a Porsche 911 motor weirdly
If you are going to spend all that money to make a incredible custom replica, they should have put some kind of Ferrari V-12 in there! And if you HAD to use an LS, they should build a small displacement (For an LS) flat plane, high red line screamer for it!
But It's still incredibly beautiful no matter the engine!
I agree, there are plenty of Ferrari V12 motors around, probably wouldn't have cost more than the crate motor and irrespective of the age and model of the engine, it would have been easy to make it sound correct or at least close enough.
@@jamesfairmind2247 Yeah, The car had to have cost a $100,000-200,000 to had build?
I only see two Ferrari V-12s on ebay right now and they are quite modern, you'd have to modify them considerably to get a period correct looking intake/carb/FI setup on those. And those are in the $25,000-$30,000 USD range. But I do look on occasion when I have thoughts of various dream projects! With some patience and phone calls you could probably get a V-12 from a 365 or 412 sedan circa the 70s or 80s for $15K? When you make a car for the movies you need to be sure it's reliable and parts are available. You can't delay shooting for a month waiting on a part from Maranello. Computer graphics and sound editing get around the not right engine for the movie shoot. BUT, once the movie is done and the car sold to a private buyer/collector, spending another $50K on a custom Ferrari based motor would make a lot of sense!
@@Dylanear Plenty of good V12 Ferrari engines out there from all eras. Any could be fitted, even recent ones from insurance write off crashed cars etc, and if you are spending my guess $300k to build that replica, why not put an engine in that sounds correct? I very much doubt it would have cost even $10k more over the crate motor. It might have even been cheaper. As for looking correct re intakes etc, well firstly the engine is not on show in the film and secondly, actually if you picked the right motor such as one from a 1970's 365/400, it would not cost too much to convert. I know a guy who built a perfect replica of a 250GTO using all Ferrari running gear including engine and transmission and it was by far the cheapest part of the build. There are plenty of companies that can reproduce intake manifolds now with 3 d printing and CNC technology and the carbs are all still available. Opportunity missed in my opinion but the film world is weird. Some of the sound track in that film was wrong anyway as were a lot of details like no seat belts in the GT40 in one scene etc.
@@jamesfairmind2247 Actually, we have a 550 V12 and seriously considered swapping the LS for the V12. Problem was that it would be close to 100K to do a complete install(exhaust, electronics, chassis mods, cooling,etc. We would have ended up with more weight and less power. So, for now, we elected to do a custom stacked 4 pipe exhaust that is much closer in sound and appearance. Look for an update on this car in the near future. (and you're close on the cost ;) )
@@legendsofthehighway4422 I do look forward to any updates on this rolling art! For sure an LS is going to be pretty hard to beat for performance without an insane Ferrari V-12 build, but the the original car had what? 400 -450hp? So, that's not too hard to get with a modern fuel injection system, well set up ECU with WB02 and all the stuff they didn't even dream of in 1966 we have now to tune and program engine management. This doesn't have to be the fastest car in the world, but sounding, looking and driving as close as is practical to the original would be my goal for the car! If you are already in for $250k or more, what's another 50-75K! I don't think you'd have to put a whole $100k into it? Yeah, I get it, changes to the chassis engine mounts, hopefully existing cooling would just need some new piping, custom exhaust done right for a V-12 will not be cheap, Vintage looking ITBs, programable ECU that'll support 12 cylinders with plenty of dyno time and ECU setup, tuning, it's definiatley going to add up! Just depends on how picky you are, if you want everything just perfect and especially if you go to great lengths to make it as accurate looking as possible you could spend a fortune! But if you look for a good middle ground, the sweet spot of accuracy, performance, reliability and cost? I have to imagine you could come in well under $100k at the right shop. Call Ratarossa! He'd be an amazing resource for ideas of doing that job with plenty of actual Ferrari parts while not breaking the bank! I bet he'd love to help! with such a project!
www.youtube.com/@Ratarossa
Why not mention the factory in Detroit? Was it RCR?
Please, sir, show us the drivetrain. It is okay that it is an American V8. Please just show it to us. Thank you.
Aluminum or fiberglass?
I am sure the owner appreciated you seating on the car.
Well, since I'm the owner, I think we're good.
"There are no longer any Ferrari P3s extant . . . "
50 million? Wonder what the monthly payment is?
The original wheels could have been recreated . I noticed the rims immediately.
There' s something in the front overhang or the wheel arch that doesn't look right or the tail proportion. Somehow the "magic" is not there but still a good replica
Agreed. I noticed that too.
Just discovered your RUclips page. Very jealous.
Thanks! Hope you subscribed. Some pretty cool stuff in the pipeline
the movie prodeucers cared about attention to detail... yet couldn't be bothered placing a V12 in a Ferrari.
Well, that would have been cool, but wildly impractical for movie duty. They never really show the engine in the cars and it would have dramatically increased cost. We've considered it as we have a 550 V12. It would require considerable modification and expense, resulting in a car with more weight and less power. To try and address the sound, we've since fabbed a stacked four pipe exhaust in the style of the original. Sounds much better, stand by for an update. Thanks
They strived for accuracy yet they weren't able to make it sounds like a V12
8 into one header would of done wonders for it
Movies can have any sound added in later...
@@BuzzLOLOL in the movie it sounds like a V8.
@@karcifcalibabba - 99.99% of viewers couldn't tell...
@@BuzzLOLOL and? It's still not accurate
The steering wheel looks horrendous of all the the things to not get right that is a confusing detail to me to get wrong. Amazing build I love the car but that is low hanging fruit that got left to rot.
Actually, the steering wheel is a period correct(and correct for the original P3/4) Momo Monza wheel. Expensive and tough to find in this original, excellent condition. Now, of course, the removable hub is not correct-but I do like to be able to get in it. ;)
Only 0.00001% of people would care about the steering wheel... and even it was correct...
Race Car Replicas.
Yep, RCR. Somewhat surprised the guy didn't point that out instead of the vague comments about "bespoke chassis" and "company out of Detroit." Anyone who wants to write a check to Fran can get his own kit.
@@mitchd949 Fran is the man.
Not so much these days. While Fran will happily sell you a Lola, 917, GT40,etc, he won't offer the P3 anymore for legal reasons.
Why not name the company that built this component car? Race Car Replicas (RCR).
Well, that's true. However, for legal reasons they are no longer available, not on their website and saw no reason to stir anything up
Yes RCR made 18 cars for the movie. Fran from RCR puts in LS3’s with Porsche transaxles. I am making one of their GT40s. The suspensions are like jewelry.