MELANCHOLIA (2011) - Movie Review
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For me the most important aspect is how Justine and Claire switch places. During the first half, Justine keeps trying to escape from the inescapable - her depression. She drives away on the golf cart only to reluctantly return and an unsupportive Claire says “sometimes I hate you so much.” In the second half, Claire is the one trying to escape from the inescapable. She panics and attempts to drive away in the golf cart, only to return after it malfunctions and the hail hits. Justine coldly denies her idea of spending their last moments on the terrace with wine and Claire says “sometimes I hate you so much.”
with the golf field scene, wasn't the whole thing where she pushed the dude down and had sex with him kind of lacking consent? like, he wasn't reciprocating and seemed kinda out of it/confused the whole time. i don't know, i just feel like if the roles were reversed (not to be cliché) it would've been called out not seeming consensual more. what do you think?
@@aonx7325 I didn’t see this before, so this is a very late reply. I definitely think the way Justine acted out was in the wrong there, but the movie isn’t really saying that you should be completely sympathetic for any of the characters.
This was money!!! Great observation
The wedding sequence is incredibly profound. Initially, I wasn't a fan; it felt overly long and confusing. However, now I see it as the highlight of the film. The protagonist's transition from light to darkness was executed flawlessly. And that bathtub scene? Despite its brevity, it captured the essence of someone grappling with paralyzing depression. It felt like a poignant portrayal of bipolar depression, especially the sudden shift at the end, mirroring how it can manifest in real life. I couldn't help but see elements of someone battling bipolar 1 disorder in this film. I don’t know if that’s what he was going for in this but it was what I took away from it after it ended.
Loved Lars visual style and treatment.
This movie for me encapsulated what it means to wake up and become enlightened.
You have to be a fan of Lars to really get into his movies. I think his movies are always challenging and provocative as you have said and that's largely what I like about them. I think four of his movies are masterpieces - Breaking The Waves, The Idiots, The Kingdom part 1 (a TV series in Denmark released internationally in cinemas) and Melancholia.
I feel this film is doing something totally original. The strange calm that comes over Justine as she accepts the end of everything almost as a blessing (it is suggested her depression itself calls Melancholia to destroy the Earth) is very effective in counterpoint to Claire's near-hysterical panic (this control and lack of control is a role reversal from the first part of the film).
The impending doom of the second half really puts the movie into the level of greatness for me: the lighting, the special effects, the eerie, atmospheric quality the movie takes on. Most of all, it challenges the viewer - it may be about the end of the world, death or depression but, it seems to me, through Justine's depressed state being a kind of enlightened resignation, it accurately portrays the pointlessness that depression feels like and also (when contrasted with Claire's more understandable but emotional reaction to impending death) that resignation has no fear. It is an acceptance of change and a surrender to nature that is actually life-affirming when we take the film as symbolic of depression and the way out of it - to allow whatever we fear, to happen, not allow it to control us and be able to face life and death in the same way as part of the same process. Based on this perspective, I found the ending both moving and incredibly powerful.
I didnt watch many of Lars's movie, but I watch the trilogy and Melacholia definitely my fav by miles. Its just more personal, real, beautiful style, and like you said it feel more like a Journey.
Byung-Chul Han’s Agony of Eros opens with a great essay on Melancholia, depression, eroticism, etc. One of my favorite reads of lockdown while I was on a von Trier kick
What a freegan coincidence you’re reviewing Von Trier and I was just watching Von Ryan’s express with Frank Sinatra last night on the tv awesome! Thanks again for your always entertaining informative analysis!
I'm not the biggest fan of Lars Von Trier, but this movie caused me to give his other work another look and ended up enjoying them more a second time. But Melancholia was definitely the easiest of his movies for me to love.
Dancer in the dark
Von Trier is a provocative film maker and he is an essential part of movie history but is really not a director who makes movies for the Box Office crowd - no happy endings here but Melancholia leaves you uncomfortable about issues - depression - the end of the world - I love his work
Just too many words are required for this one. As a life-long cinema buff and sufferer of serious major depressive disorder, this film articulates the themes like no other film I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure if it helps, so to speak, to be able to relate implicitly to what Von Trier is trying to say by suffering with these issues yourself. I felt directly tapped in to everything about the film and the unique way it played out. I actually could have did without the very last visual, whether the planet was real or metaphorical could have been left alone.
This is my first Video i have seen with you. Can i say, your are the first individual, that analyzed the movie and not make it an "show". Love your honest thoughts, very appreciated.
Amazing review as usual. Would love to hear you talk about The House that Jack Built.
To me, what this movie did amazingly well is to show how relieved and cured she became when the world was ending. I'm not sure how to explain it but this is something I relate to and never thought I'd see it portrayed on film. It relates to the saying "it takes a sick mind to be happy in a sick world". It could be argued that many people, with all their mental ailments, are in fact the sane ones. And people who go through life unbothered and seamlessly are the insane ones; they're not affected by the sickness in this world. Many mentally sick people are really sensitive people to start with, which is the basis of their struggles we call mental illness. But that illness isn't about them; it's about society and this world. This world is sick and full of shit and some just go crazy living in it. That's why when the world finally comes to an end and everything's about to vanish, the whole world's weight is lifted off our shoulders, off our chest, and we can finally breath and be at peace. Although I've never experienced a world's end myself (yet:)), I very much relate to being relieved and at finally at peace, also happy about it while others are panicking and breaking down. At the world's end, she's at peace because everything that torments her and made her crazy will finally vanish and it'll all be over. It's truly a huge relief for a lot of people and it was portrayed in a genius way imo
Similar to how the general public reacts to those labeled "disturbed", where being disturbed is a reaction to the circumstances or environment around you and not necessarily an individual who is the source of the disturbance. Maybe it's just semantics or word play, how our use or misuse of language has changed drastically over time, not to mention the internet culture's adulteration of such things, but without going too much into it I think one could understand what I'm attempting to get at. I'm always interested in and appreciative of certain viewers and comments in these film review spaces, at least the ones who share honest and intelligent thoughts from a creative or inspirational point of view.
I agree that it’s the interaction among the family and others when depression “invades” and inconveniences “their” world that makes this movie special. We see how disturbed the “normal” people are when existential truth (end of all life on earth) looms and how the previously hidden strength of the one who has seen and grappled with the whole truth and is prepared for the end manifests. The roles reverse, and Dunst has the courage and compassion the others lack.
@@brentulstad3275 I absolutely agree with you and indeed you put your finger on some deep subjects that could be explored in great lengths...I appreciate your comment
@@charlesgoldman2487 you said it perfectly. I like your comment about how the roles are reversed and about Dunst having the necessary compassion or empathy to portray such a deep thing. It's so amazing to witness
Idk why everyone hates melancholia. Especially the first half. I liked it
What a wonderful review. It's amazing to see you being that deep, and being that in your 20`s.
What about Dunst's performance? That's why I loved it
I'm glad I discovered your channel through this movie in particular. Antichrist is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I love Breaking the Waves. I can't think of a film that better exemplifies grief and depression than Antichrist (I have MDD), and I agree that Van Trier is adept at portraying it. I am following your channel just based on your description of depression alone. Charlotte Gainbourg is probably my favorite actress. I wonder if you've seen The Science of Sleep (Gainbourg and Gael Garcia Bernal). I'd love to hear your review of it.
I love Meloncholia. An all time favorite for me.
I agree.
Woah this is crazy timing I just started watching Europa.
Literally me too wtf
@@sambitnes wtf me too? that's some weird kismet
yesss my favorite Von Trier. i love the way he portrays depression. would you consider reviewing the film “Jeanne Dielman”? that’s another film i think masterfully portrays ennui and despondency. would love to know what you think of it.
The Graduate (1967) review? Would love to hear ur take on it.
It would be cool if you reviewed films liked Frield Green Tomatoes, Wild, The Devil Wears Prada, Frida, The Sisterhood Of The Travelling Pants, and other Female orientated films.
Real awesome to hear you present Lars in that way. Being a dane, I really can't understand why so many danes is almost hating him. Yeah I know very much how "toxic" he is. But he's is VERY interesting both as a person and a producer. No I don't know him personally. But I really love his way of provoking people in his movies.
Melancholia has a very big picture out to the world about depression. It literally tells it in "pictures" bought the movie on DVD before I even watched it. I rewatch it occasionally. Specially in these times.
I like your reviews, there are not many reviewers who would critique this movie and do it justice.
Everyone who ever had a deep depression knows exACTLY how precise the movie tells the "process" of the depression. Even into the details of how taste/smell senses actually can almost deactivate.
The ending is the best, it gives me the chills, the rest is hella slow until the Dad realizes he was wrong.
You look awesome in that top😍👍🏻
I really enjoy the way you analyze movies. Thanks!
I haven't seen everything Von Trier has done, but while Melancholia is a story of depression, it's also a visual feast in many ways. You never mentioned Kirsten Dunst once in your review, and I thought she was absolutely terrific as Justine. I find this film quite profound, and along with Europa(also called Zentropa), are my two favorite films of his.
Yeah I never thought much of Dunst until I saw her in Eternal Sunshine and she was equally impressive in this one.
I love the imagery and music in this movie, but this movie is perplexing.
this is a superb, well considered (amazingly precise) analysis of melancholia. thank you for this. i assume you are studied in film and philosophy?
" a tribal leader making cave paintings with his own blood" Best definition of artist ever. love it
Really was surprised by this picture. Completely transfixed by what Von Trier was doing in that yes, he was wandering distractedly through this story; in fact, it is like two separate stories involving the same characters who are transformed. That wandering though begins to narrow faster and faster until it becomes a laser point of focus in the final scenes. I was blown away (pun kinda intended).
The end of the world trope was fascinating also because while the science was a little flimsy, it had a very plausible **feel** to it at least, and the annihilation at the end was probably reasonably close to what the end of the world would feel like for those who don't suffer from major depression.. Of course it is melodramatic, but so too is major depression sometimes.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I broke down and watched it again. I really do love it.
@@atticusxey I might have to watch it tonight. I'm feeling pretty depressed myself. : )
I loved this movie but I think it would have been worth mentioning the soundtrack, excerpts from Tristan und Isolde by Richard Wagner, especially when it reached the climax at the end, takes your breath away!
Will you ever review a Kusturica film?
This movie just made me feel weird and that's why I love it.
I enjoyed this alot, but I do think that a lot of misses, I did find myself thinking about it a lot and putting myself in the shoes of every character, and a kind if what would you do type of thing. I gotta say I did find it very enjoyable
1) I always appriciate your insightful commentary!
2) That's so interesting that it's your least favourite of the three when it's my favourite by a long shot.
It's just one of those movies, it feels like he knows my pain to an extent where it's almost unbearable to watch.
The meandering thing to me being most useful in this movie, as it catches the sort of drift and lack of meaning depression sets you on.
3) Despite Melancholia being one of my favourite movies I won't support him anymore, as he seems like a terrible person, and the studio producing his movies seems to suck as well (on a management level, not on a film making level). Maybe it's being Scandinavian (not Danish, but there's quite a bit of overlap between the countries) and him very much being a part of this tiny group of autueur celebrated directors that've been allowed to run amock at the cost of everyone around them.
The most underrated quality of Von Trier's films seems to me his comedy chops. He likes to have his cake and eat it too. Be serious, take on the big subjects while at the same time being off the wall, telling the audience it knows it's just one big joke. It never takes away from experiencing the big emotions and themes, but i always appreciate the moment where he rips away the curtain and says, relax this is only a movie. eg. Breaking the Waves was like the ultimate weepie (well until Dancer in the Dark) and the whole audience goes through the emotional wringer....at the same time the story is highly sketchy and ends with the shot of the heavenly bells. Preposterous, yet he gets away with it. Same with Dance in the Dark, once you say yeah this is a depressing movie about a girl going blind that enjoys " seeing (?) the Sound of music, who gets to play maria but cannot even make it to the center of the stage....(that DOES sound like am absurdist comedy right?). The idiots was both extremely funny and harrowlingly tragic. The Kingdom - has fasincating characters - it's way SCARY and a total hoot. Love, love Udo Kier in that.
Epidemic - the last 12 minutes.....one of the greatest cruel jokes ever.
Melancholia - i loved it, but was very focussed on the comedy aspect of a preposterous idea. What would you do or experience on the night EVERYBODY dies. Your real final night. Well the way climate change is raging on, Lars might have the last laugh.
Love his use and abuse of film techniques and storytelling - anything to set the audience off kilter. Always like to see his movies for the kick in the butt he delivers to an audience. and boy do we need it in the age of Warner Bros-Disney-HBO-Amazon-Netflix.
I've noticed this irl and now looking at the comments, this is his best movie for most people. While the experience of depression is definitely well expressed in this and it was beautiful, I didn't get attached to this movie like I did the other two in the series. This is my least favorite of the series as well.
I have the same mixed feelings about this film, but I can't think of any others that make as many clear observations about egoic (vs strictly chemical) depression as honestly, particularly that line about life being evil and nowhere else in the universe. That is *exactly* the way someone in the blackest of depressions thinks, and sadly also the kind of thoughts that sometimes lead to the most horrific acts of selfish annihilation of all: the acts of the suicidal murderer.
I think the premise if this movie was interesting, let's see how these particular people react to this situation, and i think it played out about what you could expect... and it tells the story in maybe the only way it could. That the premise is so dark is our warning that we ee are going to see the inevitable, an outcome that can't be avoided.
Thanks for this. You describe depression well
Even your negative reviews are kind. Thank you.
For me nymphomaniac effected me more cause i could relate to disconnect between lust and love and joes relationship with her dad the weeping vaginal scene but the abortion scene did not like anti
It's been a while since I saw it but I do remember getting kinda bothered by the constant shakiness of the camerawork.
I will say I absolutely hated that about von Trier when I first discovered his work, and now I like how he shoots his movies arguably more than any other director. The shaky-ness really does add to this real, stripped down feeling in a way that can almost feel more like theatre than cinema. It sounds pretentious as all hell, I know. But it just works for me.
@@ianbeach23 But movies should feel like cinema, not theatre LOL
Dayum, I absolutely love Melancholia, they really don't make such movies anymore, film industry went to fucking shit, they only play it safe these days.
Lars Von Trier movies are for movie addicts that want movies to challenge them - no happy endings here - I personally always leave a von Trier movie with new thoughts, ideas, anxieties and this is much the same
Shoutout Half-Price Books! :)
Watched this and surprisingly liked it alot. Seen anti Christ also and can see the same director traits behind both. Whats the top three films in your opinion directed by Lars? Wouldnt mind watching more
Hi, only Von Trier film I've seen & I also had mixed feelings... certain emotions & fears came thru clearly tho the dialogue at times felt forced/clunky & the physics he presented took me out of the movie a lil (yes i know it was not necessarily meant to be taken as literal but as it was presented the science was impossible - so I suppose it would've been more effective if presented in a way that was more plausible for greater effect) ....thanks for the thoughts!
When it comes to contemporary film director's we would largely categorize as "provocateurs" (von Trier, Lanthimos, Noe, just to name a few) Lars is the only one who consistently evokes an eye roll from me. I find his film making to be so predictably designed to push buttons, that it leaps over the border of gratuitous, and gets to the point of being almost boring. I get the sense that von Trier sees himself as a sort of modern day Marquis de Sade, taking a lot of his influence from Justine and 100 Days of Sodom. I really don't think we need a new Marquis de Sade, nor do I think it's coming from an organic enough place to be effective. He's trying too hard, and ironically by doing so his films appear cartoonishly thin, once you see the gimmick.
Review Walkabout (1971) please and thank you.
Have you seen the documentary "The Five Obstructions" with Lars von Trier and Jorgen Leth?
i think the greatest movie ever made is Free Solo, the climbing of El Capitan in Yosemite without a rope. it's not the most enjoyable nor most entertaining film. not by miles. and i don't agree with some of the main character's beliefs. but to date it is arguably the greatest thing ever captured on film
Can you please do a review of Boogie Nights - 1997 ? 😎
Absolutely the most beautiful female on the internet period. Thanks for sharing ur love for cinema with the U n I verse we appreciate it 🙏🏾
I didn't like this film as much as "AntiChrist" or "Nymphomaniac" either. I think "AntiChrist" is by far the best of the 3. But I have to say that, as much anger as I feel about the way the world really is, when confronted with Earth's annihilation in the film I was choking back tears.
I just can't stomach von Trier. I do consider him to be a European top tier director but his work is just so depressing. I remember for years putting off watching Breaking the Waves as I knew it would be soul crushing and when I finally got the nerve, guess what ... it was. If you have a chance, watch his tv series "Riget", The Kingdom, great mix off black humor, horror and surreal series.
Believe it or not Stephen King wrote an American version of that series and it was filmed into a series, of course completely butchering it. Quite extraordinary series by von Trier, but like I said, I never would contest the man's talent, but I just don't like to revisit the hopelessness coming from pretty much all of his movies, just don't need it in my life.
If you really want to get depressed over the weekend, watch Kieszlowski's Dekalog all in one go, that should do it, just don't keep any sharp objects in the vicinity while watching.
It's confusing to me that you clearly _get_ this film, yet you don't love it. Getting doesn't always equal loving, I know, but for this film, I always imagined it should.
What are the layers in Wagner that make this pale in comparison? I feel like Von Trier aimed to evoke so much more than the old white European male canon in this film. One example: when Justine tries to walk across the grass in the opening scenes, she is held by dark skeins of fabric, which in turn suggest the very last line of the very last poem ("Edge") written by (a famously depressed) Sylvia Plath: "Her blacks crackle and drag."
In other words, it's not enough to resort to an old male tradition in order to understand this current calamity (which also encompasses the climate crisis, whether Von Trier states it overtly or not).
This is also an apocalyptic movie, a depiction of the world's end balanced alongside a more intimate ending of a specific woman's world. There is so much more going on here than I've articulated, and it's one of the greatest portrayals of depression I've ever seen (or more accurately, felt) while channeling how it might feel to experience the literal end of everything.
It's objective catastrophe indistinguishable from subjective catastrophe.
I reckon you’ve seen 2011’s “Weekend” yes?
Good acting.. and, Director.. far, as film goes.. name.. says, it all
Breaking The Waves is his best. He's lost me over the years, sadly.
Watch and experience this thriller " andhadhun" 2019 (indian)
This movie requires a subwoofer
Meloncholiaaaaaaaaagghhhhhh!
I wanted something from it, it just didn't deliver. I'd rather watch a flawed 'surface' movie about self destruction and depression, like 'Annihilation'
Go watch 'Possession' for flips sake! Thats fun!
new camera, or a change to your apartment. just wondering, do you have roommates??
If you dont like lvt work thats rational thinking if you dont like the man well its your cross world puzzle
Hey you should review the lighthouse by Rob Eggers
She did
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The rational reaction to planetary apocalypse would be terror and depression.
Bizarre that people view the main character's depression out of context. The world is coming to end. Of course she's depressed and unraveling.
This is a rather puerile review.
it´s funny though. Over analyzing. It´s nothing about anything you say
Lars is not nice. He is not nice at all.
i just watched this yesterday lol
Only good film lars ever made is breaking the waves.i think his films are horrible!!!
Review Freddy Got Fingered
I like your revue but you are soo wrong in many ways. You don´t understand
First! Great film
this movie was so BOOOOORRRING!!!!
Subjective.
@@alexanderg1297 I mean it does tick all the socially accepted boxes of a boring movie but of course thats subjective.
@@frankiecommisso48 booking!?!?!?
@@huey6248 oh yeah? What are the socially accepted boxes of a boring movie?
Number 1: you didn't like it
Number 2: that's it
Love Von Trier. His films feel more personal than Gaspar Noe’s for sure. Both really push the limits of cinema and it’s great
You should check out Sion Sono!