Will Demographics Kill European Democracy?
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- In this video, I talk about the potential consequences of the massive population ageing and ethnic change for the democratic system in Europe and the West.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:16 - The Age (of) Conflict
13:22 - The Consequences
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"A country thrives when the elders plant trees whos fruit they will never taste." Needless to say thats not happening and were not thriving.
my grandparents lived pretty much their best egoistic lives only spitting down on me, bc Im lazy focusing on important things, bc I have no time for bs, which they never understood, bc they were living in a bubble.
They never planted any trees for me, the grandparents planted some trees for my parents, but there are no trees for me from my parents, only debt I already see from a mile, and being treated as shit.
+ society treats me like shit, Genz lives suck just from judging the environment
I would rather say that it thrives when the fruit is ripe for picking. Those who pick and eat it enjoy it, but have no idea how get into the position of having the trees in the first place.
I’d say the boomers ate fruit from a tree that previous generations had planted. But then in act of greed, decided to limit access to the tree and it fruit to themselves. Thus starving any generations that would follow.
that's just what happens when you aren't landpilled and don't provide enough opportunities for the young like affordable housing to start families, have stable income streams, etc
@mwelwashad7570 "greed"? The boomers work ethics are far higher then the following generations.
Something I’ve noticed is that a country’s predominant age group is largely how that country acts on the world stage
Surprising 😂
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Just look at America
@@Ian-vu4ijwe have some truly dumb and vulgar people at all ages in this goddamn country
what do you mean?
i work for the austrian pension insurance. And i have been thinking about this alot, of course the boomers will never vote for decrease of pension spending, thus burdening the younger generation, thus leading to the younger generations having even less kids, causing a Teufelskreis
what is a teufelskreis?
@@mrfren2115 vicious circle
@@mrfren2115 The devil's cross (literally).
Edit: @DefenderPuma corrected me. It's "the devil's circle".
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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2 Peter 3:9
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Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Lol European thought they could import cheap labor the way the u.s. does however the vast difference is that u.s. cheap labor has compatibility like religions, politics, traditions etc. Whereas European cheap labor only knows Sharia laws and their Islamic values have no compatibility with the athiest Europe.
I would say in the US or Canada you are considered a citizen without strings attached while in Europe you’ll forever never be a European no matter how long you’ve been there
@@neverlookback1244add on to the fact most Islamic Europeans don’t want anything to do with their host. Quite sad
They cost money to have over here.
☪️ancer has no compatibility with anything and should be cured
Kind of... I think the main difference is that immigrants to America mostly are mostly running towards America and want to buy in to the new culture, whereas immigrants to Europe are mostly running from war/poverty/persecution and aren't particularly interested in adopting western values.
Isn’t Europe already a quarter non European? sad
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Dang that happened fast 😳. The US is like 40% non white American and 15% non American entirely
@@LucasFernandez-fk8seyeah the US is land of immigrants unless you are indegenous
If only you didn’t invade and colonize them
Those numbers seem exaggerated. Some countries have a 25% migrant population (with many of these being from other Europeans) but there are also many countries where these numbers are a lot lower. I'd say 12-15% is more accurate.
Im surprised Italy hasnt fallen yet... it could. Yet nobody speaks of spain which lives off from EU packages while still being pretty left leaning despite their economy aint strong.
Spain is gone.
Spains GDP and GDP per capita is still average for Europe. Lower in Western Europe, but still higher than Eastern.
@@BaronEvola123 Spain's going back to its Islamic roots. Andalusia was one of the major centers of the Islamic culture some 700 years ago.
@@traumvonhaiti I hope they can put a halt on that, islam delivers nothing good in this world.
@@arizotje it delivers children which is the only thing that matters in the long run
My daughter was born three months ago. It's been hard. I have to work, and my wife has to work, which means we pay for daycare, and it's not cheap. Plus, all the other things babies need. Despite the struggles, I love being a dad. It's sad we live in a society where it's so hard to start a family.
Hey man, congrats and goodluck.
Congrats! Get a gradma - that really solves your problem.
Normally in older times, you'd keep a good relationship with your folks and have them look after the kiddos.
My neighbor got twins a few years ago. His wife's retired mom would spend days helping and looking after them.
Getting a spare a bedroom in your house is usually a much cheaper option than the daycare.
+ you are on the 100% risk as a man, if she leaves you pay child support without any benefit (sex), the whole system is designed to pay the old, bc dads and dads who have to pay child support (otherwise prison) are the most productive ones = most money for the old people
@traumvonhaiti I'm very lucky in that regard. My mother in law lives fifteen minutes away, and my mother is an hour away, and they've helped out a lot. Good Grandparents are so important in helping raise a child they have so much knowledge. Unfortunately, they have other obligations in their own lives, so I still need daycare as a backup.
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I can see young people acting in their own self interest and migrating out of places where the burden of the pension system is highest, and in to places where it's lowest. This could cause the worst places to collapse sooner, as they chase out their remaining productive / fertile citizens with a higher share of the burden. It's also a huge incentive to have policies that attract desirable migrants.
already happening, take dubai, 90% expats, they still have a low birthrate, but atleast they have population growth meaning people seem to live a better life there than where they are coming from, otherwise they would have not left in the first place
It's exactly what's happening to Italy right now, which collapse has been artificially delayed by the EU, covid, tourism and immigration, without them the country would've been worse off than greece itself...
The euro, mediocre politics, low fertility rate and out of date companies/work culture have doomed Italy's future and prosperity, what a waste really...
@@transforgoku italy has been an american puppet since 1946 which made possible the institution of a corrupted politician class that created a big debt just to get elected then italy got sold since it went from public to private and the final blow was using euro since yes italy got a big gdp boost from 2001 to 2008 but people lost 50% of their purchase power and we haven't recovered the 2008 gdp something that maybe will happen in 2025-28
In the end it'll be obvious that current prosperity wasn't affordable.
Italy looks rough. No phone reception, slower WiFi than large parts of Africa, 'new italians' selling dubious things on the streets. Newest building in Rome is the UN tower. Time is a circle.@@transforgoku
Here in the netherlands the government already spends 1/4th of its budget (over 100 billion euros) on healthcare and its only getting worse
Think government needs to tackle big pharma pricing - some of the costs for medicines are absurd.
@@__Wanderer The gov that really needs to tackle that is the US gov, it's been said a million times, patents, patents patents, and the fucked up regulations that say you need a permit just to expand a hospital. It spends more per capita than any nation on education and healthcare and continues to fuck it up.
I'm not british, but I live in the UK since 2014. This year the health care budget is 282 bln pounds. 33 million people work in UK (population is about 66 million!). It's 8.5k a year per working citizen. I don't have children. My question is: where is the money? Second question is: Why should I pay this money each year even tho all I got from the doctor in the last 10 years were some pills and creams? I blows my mind and mind you it's just a health care. I'm not going into infrastructure and etc.
You may ask the same question about the US national debt. Whom do we owe it to?
As an educated dutch guy, you must realize the system is designed to (a) monotonically grow (budgetwise, debtwise, etc.)
and (b) blow up at some point in the future.
>Netherlands
Which demographic is leeching off if the most? I have one idea.
The culture of crime and corruption among non-Western immigrants is sky-high compared to European culture. This is equally true the second and third generation. Meanwhile most countries have "affirmative action" on hiring immigrants into the European bureaucracies, counties and state leaderships. The results are not super surprising: More corruption and crime within European bureaucracies, counties and state leaderships...
Yes, but you need to know it's happening because of a lot of neo colonialism and neo liberal capitalism in African countries and colonized countries. tbh most of their wealth is still being extracted without much in return its still happening today, and many African countries have a positive opinion of china because it's helping them make things they couldn't
It’s always funny to me how the most blood soaked continent with savage fighting and pillaging each other is fearful of others being potentially violent
Talk about being paranoid
You were already depraved in your own racial way. Thus is the outcome.
@@andrewreynolds912Please !
The cause of African poverty is because of corruption, inefficiencies, tribalism, cronyism, nepotism, rapidly expanding populations, crime, disease
Singapore had no natural resources. It's one of the richest most stable countries in the world. South Africa was the best country in Africa in 1992, with a GDP bigger than China. Now its almost a failed state, with a huge homicide rate.
Britain developed, modernised and invested in its African colonies. Now these countries have exchanged Britain for China, let's see how that ends up
@@jazztheglass6139 I get that, but I'm saying their evidence of Western puppet corrupt governments in African countries that people are tired of and such. Seriously of you think Neo liberial capitalism and Neo colonialism aren't one of the causes of your research, but you're not entirely wrong, but you also need to look at it by a wider picture
It’s sad. Europeans care more about economics than their ancestral heritage
Weak men..
It's being done on purpose
Plus, kids are too much responsibility, and caring for a baby involves changing diapers 🤢🤮
Maslow's hierarchy of needs
Ancestral heritage doesn't put food on your table...
I don't give a shit about democracy, all the leaders are chosen long before I vote. I care about the survival of my people, my culture, and my faith. If we need a King to ensure this, I want a King.
What's the point of having a people and culture if you are a slave?
Oh no! Aryan race have forgotten how to procreate! The Aryans no longer fit the survival of the fittest bill.
What a disaster!
@@trevdestroyer8209 Feeling a bit the same, so maybe I'm projecting, but his point seems to be that we're already slaves
@@okgoogle3151 Having a king definitely makes you a slave. Democracy you MIGHT not be one.
Your king won’t care about you. Democracy at least gives a chance for the hierarchy to be dismantled and levelled evenly. A king would never do that you simpleton. You people’s survival and culture has a higher chance of being supported by a democracy than a king who will establish their own views.
I can't stop nodding my head in agreement
Starting a large native western family would be more productive. Now you can complain to me how hard and expensive it is.
And how immigrants are to blame.
I think it already has. The recent mass migrant crisis already led to the rise of many right-wing strongmen in Europe.
but the strongmen are turning against immigrants rather then pensioners which is making the crisis worse
@@neocortex8198why are you defending immigrants? They need to go
Im not a European, but i was in nuremberg a few weeks ago and a girl there told me that it was the elderly that would freak out about masks and social distancing in germany. When i told her about the situation in America, where the elderly were largely anti-mask and anti-lockdown with a “ive lived my life, dont sacrifice your future for me” kind of mentality, she was shocked. I was shocked by how self centered old people in germany were, according to this girl. Europe seems to be broken in general. The people themselves have fucked up priorities. I want to be a self sacrificing old person one day.
Given that immigrants from non western countries are a net loss for the economy (see 17:21) wouldn't limiting the welfare state drastically reduce the risk from ethnic tension?
Probably not, because the immigrants already in the countries would start rioting and commiting crimes because their source of income would be cut off.
@@vaclavcervinka65that's not unplausible. But I would imagine most of them would just leave for a country with a bigger welfare state. I'm mean Denmark is going in that direction and I haven't heard of any riots there.
@@DiggerWingl You are right. But in that case this is a solution that works for induvidual countries, but not for the West as a whole. There will be some unlucky countries which will implement this reform later than the others and all the migrants will end up there.
This was the recent development with the new French immigration bill which would ensure new arrivals aren’t given immediate welfare for the first 5 years, but the main issue is that every single nation that took in migrants from 2013-2022 have seen deficits, due to the fact that the majority of arrivals are young men who aren’t educated like the average European, which hurts their integration into the nation. Also the welfare state that many left wing parties in Europe wish to continue will get the majority of the migrant vote, after the EU passed a law to let migrants vote in local elections, which only incentivizes the left wing parties to continue mass immigration
Meddl! You'd still flood the country with high IQ ethnicities who may not be a net negative for the economy, but who still pursue their own self interest, such as East Asians, Brahmins or Ashkenazi Jews. As a result, you may end up with an economic and intellectual elite that works against the interests of the indigenous population, regardless of Affirmative Action. This is something that's currently happening in countries like the United States. Libertarian "utopias" won't really solve the democracy crisis, you Kaschber. Only a massive remigration project, much stricter immigration laws, higher birth rates of the indigenous population and perhaps even racial profiling can solve that. In order to increase birth rates and strengthen the family unit, we might have to drastically reform welfare instead of limiting it because the latter wouldn't change the issue of Alis and Fatimas breeding like rabbits compared to the Henrys and Marys. What happened to the American family unit after they put an end to the New Deal sort of proves that. Despite reduced welfare, the United States got more immigrants instead of less. Plus, races like Arabs, Blacks and Hispanics that already attained citizenship will produce more children regardless of welfare, because they're genetically much hornier than White people, at least the men.
Old people vote for old people preferences which makes life of young people worse and old people life better.
Old people don't care about the future. Damn them
I mean, duh. *Every* group votes for their own interests over other people's. The solution should be an economy where the interests of the young and old are not so wildly divergent.
Okay, so let's play the blame game: it was the immigrants in the beginning, now it's the old people. Who's next?
Instead of laying blame on others, why don't you personally pull yourself together, and start a proper native western family with 5-10 kids?
Not possible it's a zero sum game. Economically speaking old people are like parasites and working people in productive age are their hosts, so interests will always be divergent and best you can hope for is some 'rotten compromise'.@@alexpotts6520
@@traumvonhaiti Lack of Self Reflection is the damning flaw of you Whites.
European Democracy died in 1991 with the Maastricht Treaty. EU memberstates are ruled by outside forces and lobbies, never by the people.
Thanks for a very informative video. I have shared it as it is a very important subject.
It doesn't help that stories talking about these issues often focus on a handful of impoverished seniors who legitimately need help and then try to extrapolate those conditions onto all seniors. So we all vote as if your average senior was homeless and living off cat food whereas your median senior in the US has a net worth of half a million dollars.
The answer is simple but no one wants to talk about it - old age welfare programs need to be means-tested.
This is economically correct but politically impossible. Any politician pointing out the truth is doomed to lose the next election. So no politicians even tries.
So if two people earn the same but one spends all their money up until retirement and has nothing, while the other lives frugally and has built up wealth at retirement. Then you say the one who saved money should not get anything?
This is where I have a problem with means testing. Just give everyone the same amount, no matter how much they have.
@@noergelstein But like 90% of the difference in retired people's wealth is explained by their difference in career earnings or inheritance or investments, and only 10% is down to how frugally they have lived. Like, if I've a minimum wage job for 50 years and some other guys been a city executive, then he'll have way more assets than me at retirement regardless of how much more careful I have been with my money than he has.
This will just lead to people finding creative ways to get rid of their 'means' in retirement. I would guess wealthy seniors will strategically pass all their wealth to their children or other family members before retirement with the understanding that those funds will be 'available' to support any needs they have beyond what the maximum means-tested benefit pays...
@@alexpotts6520 Sure, but that person who earned more also payed much more in taxes, so I don’t see why you can’t just give him the same as well.
Yes. This gerontocracy is no1 overlooked issue. In Poland the elderly receive 13th and 14th pension, and although I love my grandparents, it makes my blood boil (especially since they refuse to recognise the problem even when confronted with it). Honestly I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to the productive pet of non-natives in the Western Europe
in italy retired peoples had higher median income than peoples in their mid 30s, because back then people retired with basically the same pension as wage and after not too many years of work.
I dislike my grandparents. They’re wrong about everything and refuse to acknowledge the harder lives young people will be forced to live. Instead whining we don’t know what “real work is” and blathering about screens 😒
im leaning on outright banning retirement as a necessity, at least for anyone without under 3 kids.
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Absolutely. The hippie boomers in the West were the most wicked, selfish group of people ALL TIME. They stole everything that wasn't tied down.
If you don't like Poland, you can go to Ukraine. The folks running it are in their 40s on average. You clearly cannot accuse Ukraine of gerontocracy. There are no 13th and 14th pensions, and many other goodies are missing.
As far as your grudge against the "non-natives", why don you *personally* pull yourself together, and start a proper "native" Polish family with 10 kids?
Laying blame on others is what losers do.
Marvelous work Kaiser. It's very hard to argue with any of this.
Oh, it is. Low birth rates have nothing to do with democracy.
Low birth rates have been the state of affairs in Europe since 1960s, and democracy was just fine.
Problems started with the 2008 economic crisis which never really ended.
You basically have too little money to make everyone happy. Hence, the issues.
@@traumvonhaiti You got that wrong. First of all, birth rates in Europe went sub replacement level not in the 1960, but mid 1970, some in 1980. Second of all, a child born in 1980 for example can start voting and have an impact in 1998 onwards. The latency in demographics is super important. There is no impact immediately. Baby boomers are the majority, so the policies were always voted by them for them. That was not a problem when they were at work all those decades. Now that they retire, still a majority, the policies are again voted for them, meaning for retirees. With a normal age pyramid, gen X and millenials should be the majority and should vote policies for them, meaning for people working and having families. But they are not. It's still baby boomers! All put together you see how demography is related to democracy.
@@let0atreides Okay, fine. I stand corrected on the exact timelines.
I still disagree with your argument. Correlation - yes, causation - no.
Give people (regardless of the age pyramid) economic prosperity, and they'll vote for moderate candidates who promise to keep things nice. That was the case in the 90s and early 2000s.
But as soon as the economic pie started shrinking, you can say goodbye to democracy.
P.S. The rise of the Bohemian gefreiter to power in a super democratic Weimar Germany in 1933 should serve a lesson here.
@@traumvonhaiti But that's the point, the prosperity exists but is largely held by Boomers. They enjoyed prosperity in the 90s and 2000, they bought reasonably priced homes which are now worth millions and can hardly be accessed by new generations and they enjoy almost guaranteed pensions. To transfer this wealth, or as you say, give prosperity to younger generations, you would have to vote changes. But you can't. For instance, anyone who will propose to lower pensions for Boomers will lose election. Anyone who proposes to increase the retirement age wins the election. Who is the winner ? Boomers. More people working longer to pay for their pensions. It's a deadlocked vicious circle. We are still in a system that was designed at a time when population grew organically and when the age pyramid looked like a pyramid. Now the pyramid is upside down, but the system remains. Hence we have problems.
@@let0atreides Let me reiterate: you are confusing correlation and causation here.
If the existing economic system continued working just fine and kept producing more and more wealth, there would be enough for everyone. It has nothing to do with democracy and/or the birth rates.
Talks about "transfer of wealth" are a sign that the economic system isn't working. And yes, I agree with your description - it gives the picture in detail.
But it's not providing fundamental reasons for the predicament that the world currently finds itself in.
Economy (wealth producing machine) is the fundamental reason. Not democracy (which is just the governance system), nor the birth rates.
This video is fantastic. Great work.
In 2022, Bulgaria recorded its highest total Fertility Rate in over 30 years, reaching 1.78 children per woman. However, certain provinces in Bulgaria exhibit significantly divergent fertility patterns. For instance, in the Sliven Province, the fertility rate rose to 2.57 children per woman in 2022 from 2.29 in 2021. Interestingly enough, about 80% of this province's total population is affiliated with Orthodoxy. Conversely, in the Smolyan Province, the total fertility rate declined to 1.33 children per woman in 2022 from 1.48 in 2021, with approximately 60% of the population identifying as irreligious. This raises the question: is there a correlation between an individual's religiosity and the number of children they might have in their lifetime? What are your thoughts on this?
The answer is yes and everyone with a brain knows it. The thoughts don’t matter because religion isn’t going to make a comeback in Europe due to the World Wars undermining the institution.
That's been a Consistent pattern everywhere. The More Religious are more willing to have Chuldren than the Irreligious.
I'm starting to wonder if the Support System around Religious People like a Community contributes to thus since such systems are more likely to exist for them than the Irreligious.
Most likely, because atheists are often more hedonistic and self interested in nature, which prefers the now more than the future, thus having kids is not as compatible for their lifestyle compared to religious people.
Another coincidence is that in Sliven there are a lot of gypsies. I am Bulgarian and I do agree that more orthodox families do indeed have more children, but they are veryy few since the orthodox church is basically dead. The fertility of ethnic Bulgarians is closer to one child per women everywhere, but the other ethnicities inflate the national average.
Bulgaria has relatively high fertility, but also it has brain drain so the demographics aren't that healthy there either. Bulgaria needs fertility of like 2.5 or higher to offset all the emigration.
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I don't want Europe to become Africa or the Middle East. I don't want Europe to replace christ with activism.I wan't a large family and want my children to have families too. I want safe societies which are familiar and has a main singular cultural identity. How do we go about doing this?
Islam is the answer. In all seriousness, it can literally help solve all of Europes problems
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Place faith in God and organise, organise, organise. There is something called basket-weaving, become a part of it.
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@@edilbekabdyrakhmanov Jajaj Being Mormon is the answer
Even though my views aren't exactly represented by this video, its was still a good watch - makes you think what we've still got in store. Keep it up bro, I'll definitely be watching the next vid.
Could you state a point where you would disagree?
Simple solution: no pension for childless people. 1 child = 50% of the pension, 2 children = 100%, 3 children = 133%, with decreasing benefits with each child. Is this authoritarian? Yes, but it would finally incentivize people to have children based on if they have reproduced themselves and gave the economy more workers, thus more taxes.
That could work but there are several problems with this.
The demographic problem is already here. Taking away the pension of a 60 year old person now, cause she/he never had a child, is a rather crude option.
Lets say we implement this only for those we are fertile of age (i.e. around those who are 30 now). We would effectively increase the financial burden on them even more. As such I don't think this is feasible.
@@LOLLOLLOLLOLIPOPa yeah, I know. I already figured out some of the details you have mentioned. It would not apply for people older then 40-45, and for people aith recognized infertility. I might not write a whole legislation in a comment section.
I had considered the same idea myself! Scaling retirement benefits based on how many children you've had.
Currently, the system bases your retirement income on how much you earned and paid in during your working years.
But imagine if people worked and paid in loads of money but had no children. Then no matter how much they are owed, there is no one to work to care for them when they are old.
A retirement system should be based on both producing the next generation who will do the actual work and the amount a person has paid into the system.
This really is an inegalitarian solution, though. You're taking away resources from the old people with no children to help them, and giving more who have plenty of children to care for them in their old age.
@@alexpotts6520 painful, but necessary. For thousends of years, people had children so that they could help out on the fields and in their older years they would take care of them. This is the same, applied to the changed demographic, cultural, societal and economic reality. I didn’t say it would be equal, but this is what needs to be done.
A pleasure to work with you!
This ties very well into the the concept of Biolenism, interest groups and coalitions will always tilt society towards dsygenic nepotism, the arrow of democracy always bends toward its own death
When you said "block of voters," reaching retirement I heard "blood of vultures"
me who wants to ban retirement
Why did the Europeans let this happen to themselves?
Babies are boring and time consuming. Europeans want to have fun instead of raising children.
The Europeans always take up American culture and political ideology as a way of status seeking and validation. Unfortunately they took our corporate diversity signalling even more seriously than we did.
Addiction to vanity lifestyle (constant clubbing, parties, traveling, etc), lack of personal responsibility, and the societal propaganda that having children ends any fun in your life. Also bad economics, feminist propaganda that having family and children is slavery for women, demoralization of men, and many other factors
Individualism.
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As a long time Whatifalthist follower, I appreciate not only the stylistic similarities between your videos, but also how your boots-on-the-ground perspective from Europe and other tidbits (like crediting female-led families in the family structure-ideology debate) complement any learning topic you two touch.
Please never stop.
This guy shits all over whatifalthist. whatifwhathist is a clown.
This guy is 10000x more thorough and objective than whatifalthist. I take offense that you would even try to compare them.
dont compare them haha
Bro whatifalthist is in general not a channel to look for beyond entertainment.
What a blasphemous comparison. Whatifalthis is an ignorant ass. Whatifalthis is Facebook-tier content in terms of misinformation, hyperboles, and outright lies.
Yeah, without watching the video: the old should have no right to fully control the system they stopped paying into and further more are actively extracting from.
White America
go vote then and the old wont control anything
@@provokatorasalitirios The old outnumber the young.
@@provokatorasalitirios literally do tho they control all the capital in the country
old people should have no right to retire or stop working, all pensions public and private should be banned, your wealth belongs to future generations not end of life care
Love your content Kaiser keep jamming baby
Fascinating and well said.
I have been thinking of this topic for a long time, the reality is that we are doomed. Our culture is gone thanks to mass immigration while our capacity of having a decent life and afford children is also under massive strain thanks those very generous welfare programs for the elderly. What is there to do? We can't send those people back to their own countries because of many reasons among international law and having people in favor of them being here, mostly overly social left leaning electors and again the elderly who want a larger pool of workers to tax for their pensions. There is no easy solution and there is no political will for any meaningful change. I honestly think that no reform will save the system, it must be replaced entirely.
Start having kids and value family life if your grandparents were able to have 12 kids while living in shacks there’s no excuse in this age with all of this technology and services available
The elderly deserve generous welfare programs, because they themselves provided generous support for their children, who now are taxpayers who fund these welfare programs. The child free elderlies is the problem, as they didn't make new taxpayers and basically steal money from other children.
Aaand that is how fasicist states are formed. If we think about it in an unbiast non-moral way, it is indeed a solution to most of the problems we face (a the creation of totally new ones, of course).
@@z3rz112 How exactly is wanting to preserve one's culture and ethnic group without democracy fascist? Democracy has failed. It operates under the assumption that everyone are philosophers who debate their ideas, when in reality, you can just appeal to a groups tribalism (be it age, ethnicity, religion, language) to win that group's vote. No one is equal, people are inherently superior/inferior, a drug dealer/gangster is inferior to a law abiding citizen, yet under democracy both have the same value. Its a stupid system. We need a dictator with strong national pride overturn this and prevent democracy from rising again to cause the damage it has caused now.
@@neverlookback1244 They did make more children because the child mortality rate was much higher than today, the expectations were different than they are today. The problem with what you are suggesting is the fact that your children will be extremely disadvantaged in terms of investment in their education and in general living standards as your resources will be spread very thin.
well that was depressing...
i'm in my thirties from a rich european nation and even though i'm not rich, i have some not insignificant assets. i have been thinking about this issue for some time and felt the urge to just pack up and flee for many years - this has been long in the making.
questions is just.. where to? there doesn't seem to be any place left that sort of works without putting undue strain on me in terms of income needed or taxes incurred. us? getting fleeced. norway? getting fleeced with bad weather. new zealand? getting fleeced. even crazier is, i couldn't even get into theses places without turning into slave labour with no rights, even when i bring my little million with me.... no takers.
the situation is just sad. i find the future far less exciting than i had hoped for when i was younger. i have a house but the cost and maintenance bills and taxes and everything is just absolutely crushing. there's no fun to be had anywhere apparently, just bills and problems... no thanks.
According to peter zeihan: USA.
@@bader3677I'd imagine the rural Midwest to be quite calm and nice.
The future is exciting if one stops trying to run from it.
Be glad there is no etalon of "fun to be had" anywhere on Earth. If it was, everybody would try to go there and it would not hold such status for noticeable time. And if it was able, it would need strict mechanisms against immigration, including you. Most swords has double edge...
@@DiggerWingl the midwest has its problems but its better then other places in the united sharts of walmart
Great video!
Exactly my thoughts of a late time. Dark times ahead for us. However, great video on very important topic. Thanks for that!
I think giving tax breaks and prohibiting pensions from those who did not have/adopt kids would work like a charm. The age of retirement also needs to be upped significantly. In regards to the West and any democracies as a whole, only those with children should be able to vote. I enjoyed voting back in 2018 and 2020 here in the US (I voted Conservatively), but I was also 18-20 at the time, no kids, much less life experience, practically no responsibilities, and I didn't have a regular job.
EDIT. My friends and I briefly talked about Social Security (America's pension system) and how it's a pyramid scheme, and one we will see few benefits from--if at all. If you don't have kids, so you contributed no future bodies to pay into SS, then you shouldn't be eligible for it. Obviously adoption would count. Society and its institutions need to structure themselves around the family. Just some thoughts from a young Conservative here in the states. God bless.
That is so stupid. I cannot and most likely can never afford kids. It just seems like classism and seems like it goes against our rights. It is our freedom to have kids or not. How about create a environment where kids are easier to have and allow parents to spend time with their kids. Don't blame people for being put in a environment where kids just aren't all that practical.
I think a more reasonable version of your idea might be something like "100% inheritance tax on those without children". On the one hand, you don't have any natural heirs anyway; on the other hand, the government could use that money to help the people who are struggling to feed their children.
(I'm a somewhat radical 100% IT guy anyway, or at least the top threshold should be 100% ie there is a maximum estate any one individual may inherit; but hopefully we could at least agree on this version and both get some of what we want.)
i think compulsory employment or banning retirement might help. I dont really find value in retirees, id even argue that anyone who refuses to work due to age or disability is a traitor
@@baronvonjo1929 but that is exactly problem, it cannot be better. Your argument is exact reason, why decline is still continuing. In so far only real solution I found possible was possible was let Covid run to maximum (risk of mutation is topic of itself). Other is only change of system itself. So far only system, which was never tried in history with possible solution with freedom is only Meritocracy. However it is not system with equality, here real value of every individual is only by action of that person.
meh ban pensions ban retirement outright its time to put the kids first
16:21 we all know ultimately when it comes to a matter of survival.. women will have their opinions of politics ignored
Women vote similarly to the men in their country. It's a matter of age, not gender. Stop acting like all women are liberals
As a woman ,i agree
By then, the damage is done. We listen to women until everything is ruined, and then rebuild and repeat the process.
@@chico9805 The Whites won't even get to that point. The white women selected blacks over their men. Either the white men were weak or white women are stupid.
Women are social creatures, they support whatever force manifests as dominant in a society.
In regards to your thoughts on wether we are truly democratic or not:
The true test of someones commitment to democracy is to see how much they are willing to put up to direct democracy. If you think of most recent big political decisions such as immigration, green policy and corona restrictions: how many of these things would have passed a peoples majority vote? Or even more so, how many would survive a yearly vote on wether to continue the policy or not? I am certain that for several years there would have been a majority in Sweden that would have voted to close the borders. Much of our modern democracy is just the giant wheels of bureaucracy turning with big established parties, toxic bureaucratic institutions in their own rights, taking turns enacting whatever they feel like. None of them would probably be willing to put major policies up for vote the same way most kings resisted democratic reforms: they know it would undermine their personal projects and ambitions.
Most people will probably tell you that this doesn't work, or it would be populist, or whatever, but any argument against this necessarily also applies to voting on representatives every 4 years, it's a beautiful Kafka trap.
Most people aren't pro democracy, they are pro their tribe ruling it.
The problem with direct democracy is that most individual voters, and most electorates, do not have coherent preferences. As an example, imagine you live in a direct democracy, you suffer an economic downturn, and you ask your people what to do about it. You ask them three questions:
"Do you want to cut state spending?"
"Do you want more state borrowing?"
"Do you want to pay more tax?"
Quite predictably, your voters will answer "no", "no", and "no" to these three questions; because nobody likes any of these things individually and most people refuse to accept trade-offs. But of course, an economic contraction forces any government government follow (at least) one of these policies. What is the administration supposed to do when the voters return a list of requests that are mutually incompatible like this?
This is why we have representative democracy. Parties of like-minded people are able to put forward platforms that, for the most part, are internally consistent and at least deliverable in theory if the government is competent and honest. Sure, these plans often fail anyway, but at least they aren't doomed from the outset like in the direct democracy example; and also, when a government fails you can vote it out, but in a direct democracy you can never vote out useless voters.
@@alexpotts6520 My point is that the same thinking can be applied to representative voting. When selecting a candidate to vote on most people also want someone who can promise to have a cake and eat it too. You can discuss back and forth wether the representative system minimises issues of populism etc and I am not saying we should have a direct democracy. My point is that most people that are fervently pro-democracy will quickly denounce the average voter as being an incapable decisionmaker when talking about increased direct democracy but then act like the same people are saints of rationality when it comes to representative democracy. I am not actually making a point about which system we should use, I am pointing out that the fervent advocacy of democracy often found today is not backed by an actual conviction in the populus, in which case people perhaps shouldnt be as zealous about it as they are.
@@felixmayer2528 And my point is that representative democracy is a way of having consent of the governed while avoiding absolute chaos.
The USA population is 25% GenZ, 31% Millennial, 19% genX and 22% boomer.
Together, GenZ and millennials make up 56% of the entire US population. The USA is still much younger than Europe, so the USA still has so much time to prepare while Europe does not.
blah blah blah
better get your gringo ass to them spanish language classes
That, and also the fact that the fertility rate is much higher and has much more immigration
@@hardlo7146 yeah that too
US is unique and world’s superpower with a culture that actual has the capability to integrate foreign cultures (like Vivek in republican part).
So America as long as the right government takes power, will be able to survive.
@@atishayritulpatwavivek is controlled opposition.
Damn what should we do: cost of living crisis, mass immigration.
Limit social welfare for recent unskilled migrants from non western countries. Give the money we saved to young families.
@@DiggerWingl What about young families of unskilled migrants from non-western countries? Which bucket do they fall into?
@@alexpotts6520 the main problem I have with them is that they don't contribute to the economy but to ethnic fragmentation. I think when welfare cuts for them are implemented, their number will have drastically sunk because most of them will have left voluntarily, so that those that are left can be given welfare without a massive damage to the economy.
Regime change.
@@alexpotts6520the deportation bucket
Probably the best video on your channel. Thank you! 👏
Hey KaiserBauch, I'm sure you've researched this topic before but I think it would be very interesting to look at the future of the Amish community in America, and also similarly maybe the Mormon community. Particularly the Amish, because as a community which consistently holds fertility rates of 5-7+, depending on the liberalness of the community, this does translate into exponential population growth. Although they're only about 370,000 hypothetically in a few generations they would become a major force in American politics, which then would require either assimilation or another alternative in order to function within American democracy. Or is their anti-tech, family-based mindset the solution to fertility issues? Or perhaps is it the incentive that they are given (children = labour) to have more children?
What is their child mortality rate?
Because they seem to still be a small percentage of the total population.
@@Moses_VII They have access to modern healthcare. They don't reject it. So I'd assume it's the same as the general population.
The Amish won't ever become a major force in US politics because they don't believe in participating in politics (for religious reasons).
I like how I talk about a topic with someone and within a month KaiserBauch makes a video about it. Talked about this with my friend recently, his take was that our pension system is sustainable, because the aging population will simply keep it in place through their voting power.
I raised my eyebrows at him saying "yeah right, within democratic framework, good luck keeping that".
I honestly think that the current level of political radicalism that Kaiser has witnessed on X is nothing compared to what is coming. It's almost as if the young generation was starving for radical solutions.
Like, he's right though. It's politically stable, it's just not economically stable.
There is no law of nature that means that electorates are compelled to accept economic reality. Where the voters goes off the rails, sometimes the elected government has to eventually face reality and abandon its radical plans (Francois Mitterand in the 1980s, Syriza in the 2010s, Liz "beaten by a lettuce" Truss, and the jury's out on Javier Milei), but that really only happens after things go tits up, whereas ideally you'd like the democratic process to be able to prevent this from happening in the first place.
There are a myriad of ways in which society and the economic system as currently exists is unlikely to survive far into the future. Besides demography, consider automation and artificial intelligence would bring. What happens when machines can do all the work, and most humans are just surplus? Machines have already taken over much of manufacturing. Now, there are self-driving cars. People are even using AI to write computer code. How many professions are safe? In the current economic paradigm, surplus humans won't find jobs and will starve. But people are unlikely to accept their own genocide by the mechination of a faceless economic system. What is more likely is the underclass will eventually rise up and overthrow the system, and replace it with something which at least allow them to survive. I remember having this conversation even 10 years ago. AI has only penetrated much deeper, and social divide has been exacerbated much further since in both Europe and the US. I don't believe the capitalist system as currently exists will survive.
@@pineapplesareyummy6352 I can't help thinking that doctrinaire Marxists resemble born-again Christians or even doomsday cultists in this regard. Just like the return of Jesus, or the world-ending rapture, the workers' revolution is surely right around the corner, even though we've been waiting 150 years and it still hasn't happened. Surely at some point continually being proven wrong that X event will trigger a revolution might give you pause on the confidence that *this* latest crisis must be the end of capitalism. Have you not realised yet that global economic systems are a lot more durable than you want them to be?
3:33 Does Eritrea really see itself as democratic? It hasn't had any (national) elections during its independence, not even sham elections.
The European Race is what matters not democracy
"European race" , merely 60 years ago , italians and Irish werent rven considered white 😂.
In any case , the demographic collapse of Europe is impeding, just look at italy , when Melony has to resort to immigrants for labour as a Right wing politician you know you guys are fucked .
@@harrysliyoko8809 More like 100 years ago. And it was Italians, Irish and all Slavic people.
Dude, you must know that the only way to save european race is to have stable family with 3-10 kids.
I asked this question to many peeps under this video but no one seems to have a normal family.
Are you guys all all incels by chance?
I agree but I think we should say "the European people" instead of "the European race" for optics sake
A certain Austrian painter would have agreed with this sentiment...
Democracy didn’t defeat Fascism. Far more totalitarian country troops fought than troops from the democracies.
Trick question for you - what is the most imperialist country on the planet? I’m not talking militarily, but rather in how it destabilizes countries societal systems?
Point is not in who has more ppl to throw into a meatgrinder... point is who did won economical war... if it was USSR i bet it would still be here... Totalian countries usually suck in some way in their economical policies
True. And to say it defeated is an stretch. Fascism was only "defeated" by force, not by democracy.
Democracy is a facade.
@@AndrejD303what about China then? They’re still successful,Get off neo liberal drug
@@AndrejD303
Well yeah, inefficiency is baked into authoritarian systems.
After watching part 1 and 2, I predict that the consequences will be rise in populism, support of autocracy and most of all, brain drain to countries where productive people can build their own lives rather than live to feed the elderly.
Important to note, in the modern monetary system the majority of money creation is done indirectly, not by the government, often not even within the borders of the country where the currency created is legal tender. Highly recommend reading the paper Offshore Dollar Creation and the Emergence of the Post-2008 International Monetary System.
you could basically say the whole system has become out of control, nobody knows everything anymore, its a huge house of cards, basically anything can make it go bust, its so complex, nobody can oversee it anymore, if you can see it you cant fix it, if you cant fix it it can make damage making the house of cards collapse.
I am proud of Hungary for its conservative population and its anti imigrant policies, but not of its current political state, we either go right of we go left, I dont like middle grounds
Hungary seems like its doomed too, just covered by populist believes not solving fundamental problems like productive people having to pay for unproductive ones
anti immigrant policies dont work. We need anti retiree policies instead
This presentation makes it seem like the choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. But the essence of the problem is between limited government and non-limited government. It doesn't make a difference whether the income taxes are being imposed democratically or by an authoritarian government - whether the transfer is to the elderly voters or to oligarchs. Eventually, there will need to a restraint placed the extent of these transfers, or you will have a new feudalism, with the serfs being workers.
State power will have to be used to reverse these trends, an American way of looking at things will fail like it has in America, we need a new elite and different regime, not to plead for limits on those with more power than us.
The new feudalism will be runned by corperates
Agree, Libertarianism is the solution.
I Agree, but it seems to me all democracys eventually end when people figure out they can vote for the government to reduce their taxs and increase their benefits and in the west this self re enforcing cycle is speeding up. Right now the left wants drastically larger government and the right talks a good game but simply isnt serious or able to deliver a smaller government and in some respects actuality want government to do more. Like in America Trump is as pro leaving social security alone as is Biden, they both know if they touch it the will lose a big chunk of the boomers and loose. Not sure how you get out of it democratically besides waiting for Millennials and gen z to get to voting age and shift rightwards as boomers start expiring. Thats prob atleast 10-20 years out if at all.
@@andrewharris3900 we already see how google amazon meta and microsoft basically rules the world nowerdays
From Russia with love- please save Europe ❤
Russia has even lower birth rate
@@testboga5991 From the looks of things they seem to have halted the declining birthrate
@@testboga5991 Not really. It's still higher than Germany and Canada. It's higher than all of Eastern Europe.
What a thing to say during these days...
It's like the person who attempted to murder you sending you a happy birthday wish. It's not something you want to see...
@@viskyboi1275 Its the Muslims who are responsible for that statistic. Putin bends over backwards to accomodate us. Even Ramzan Kadyrov backed off on conscripting Chechens to fight in Ukraine. There is a video of him circulating where he his berating his soldiers for wanting to go to Palestine for free but refusing to go to Ukraine where they could be making huge sums fo money.
It is already killed...
One additional point I’ve thought about before not mentioned here is that all the people maintaining the government’s backstop of force-the police, army etc-are necessarily the young. The people doing the most crucial work to make those instruments of force operate-manufacturing weapons, etc-are generally going to be younger too. This mismatch between universal suffrage and the sources of the government’s force is inherently stressful on the system.
Hmm. The young may operate the machinery but they don't control it. (Or if you want to be commie about it, they don't "own the means of production".) The institutions are controlled by the gerontocracy. I think in a hypothetical "clash of generations" the old would retain the upper hand.
People on welfare or retired should not vote. Period. People with negative tax/benefit balance should not vote either. AT ALL.
Nailed it. If you're not a net contributor, you don't get a say in how everyone else's contributions are spent.
Of course, it's virtually impossible to actually implement such a solution, because you would need a majority vote for it! So we're arguably doomed for a collapse before such a sustainable system can be implemented, the only question is how long the current wounded democratic model drags on.
Agree 100%
Spitting facts
So how much tax one should be paying to be eligible for voting? Would a penny work?
Or should your voting power be dependent on the amount of tax you pay? Billionaires might actually like you!
Good so mostly no immigrants, pensioners, children and most women. Based
I really like your videos. Can you make one about Turkey please?
Are you sure these are democracies? Not warmongering colonials?
You’re correct.
10:52, Based flag for a based empire with a based Chancellor
Thank you!
Kaiser? Are you a professor? Excellent document.
Brasil
Culture is the upstream of politics
We have age consciousness in Thailand which went stupidly wrong. Instead of working together as a whole to solve the problem it’s the old vs the young, parents vs thier kids. It just turned out to be another thing a politician can exploit to get votes.
leave asap, most likely, only the old will be left soon, you dont want to be part of this
@@l.3626 I like the foods here so I have no options
@@VisibleMRJ what food ?
Great video as always.What could also be said is that old people are generally voting for parties that want to limit migration, but as those parties support the status quo on pension issues, they will run out of thier electorate in some 60 years as migrants will become the dominant ethnicity. Best regards from Slovenia.
In France old people are voting for Macron partie and young people are either far left or far right.
@@codycody4145Disons seulement qu'ils votent pour leurs intérêts.
Comme observé lors du vote de la loi récente sur l'immigration, LREM n'est pas un parti de gauche .
Babe wake up new KB video
The problem starts when people begin living off other people's money instead of their own.
That's been the case since the emergence of the welfare state.
The real problem is the economic crisis (the 2008 disaster never got really resolved).
I think pensions are a fine idea as there are many 65+ who are simply unable to work. Or do you suggest they live on the streets? I think the problem is that demographics and politics never took a long term approach to managing their population structures. Encouraging generations to have children is essential to a countries basic existence. It should have been one of the number 1 priority to at least have a stable / balanced size rather than rapidly shrinking. Housing, childcare, general life costs have simply become too expensive now for families to even consider beginning.
@@__Wanderer People used to have children to help them in the old age. Now they use the State. That is, everyone expects to be taken care by other people's children. In the end, no one has children and the Government has to import migrants. It doesn't seem to be working out.
yes, and GenZ sees that and just doenst work anymore, bc there is nothing you can steal from a poor person
The problem is that at certain age a person can no longer work due to physical and mental health decline
I don't expect a 65 years old to be productive like 35
Do you have a solution for that ?
Demographics have killed democracy in Russia too. The foundation of modern Russian power is the people of the older generation who love Putin and are nostalgic for the USSR. The younger generation is more oppositional, but the older generation is more numerous. The Russian authorities seem to understand this trend - and hate everything related to youth
It's been a rough year with losses from failed banks and government, real estate crashes, a struggling economy, and downturns in stocks and dividends. It feels like everything has been going wrong.
What a terrible year it is…
The cost of living is making people go into different businesses anyways, but my problem is that the rate at which money gets finished on little purchases is so surprising.
That's true
I saw all this coming so i had to switch to Crypto trading and I'm really enjoying the fact I made the right choice because of my weekly earnings.
Who'd have said focusing on your *core* population first rather than ad-hocs would've been more benefitial?
Make a series of videos with subject the religion(s) of the future. Can a new religion solve the psychological, demographic, and other problems of the world in the 21st c.?
Objectively demographics matter a lot when talking about democracy. On the matter of age, I think it's important to remember that old people aren't necessarily more conservative in the modern era, nor are their interests necessarily against those of younger people. As cultures have conservative and progressive turns over time (like eastern europe post fall of socialism) you can have younger people be more religious and conservative than their parents. As for the elders voting only in their interests, that has to do with extreme individualism and class based fertility diferencials, where the elders are kicked out of the family structure and thus don't see their children and grandchildren's interest as so important, or sometimes they perceive (correctly) that the interest of their small family (and few heirs) is not aligned with that of the larger poorer families. It is not just gerintocracy, it is a class and asset-based problem, as it also explains why governments then don't just tax those assets. Also, while in Healthcare surely the largest benefitiaries of the expenditure are the elders (and their few heirs), larger families net receive more assistance either through childcare or education, and single people are the ones paying the most in. I bring this up to counter the idea that the state is just a massive scam syphoning money from the "family oriented youth" to the "unproductive elders". Also, the idea that less redistribution would solve the issue when on average you have those elders sitting on massive amounts of savings and property with few heirs and growing proportion of kids concentrated in lower income families, to me, sounds very... Optimistic and biased to say the least.
I can't say what's the case in Europe but surely in my country (Brazil) you have many families where elders are the main source of income, especially in the hinterlands. People are also very likely to live with their families and you don't want to overburden families with caring for their elders so that they become the unproductive person the family is supporting instead of the children. That's why I believe public policy should take a turn from being more individualistic to being more family and children oriented, but without treating the elders like trash as they did in Korea which in my view only backfired in all possible ways.
I love how you pronounce “country”. What accent is that?
could you share the studies about economic migrants impacts ? I'd like to read them up
This has been a big question that I've been thinking about for a long time so I'm happy you addressed it. I'm a 32-year-old American and I honestly the more I think about it get more and more angry that the baby boomers are absolutely shafting the young generations I did the math and on average the baby boomer will get about 700,000 dollars net more than they paid into just between Medicare Medicaid and social security because they live longer in healthcare costs have gone up in their benefits have expanded in our index to inflation plus they just had their home prices double or more in value and they locked in a 3% interest rate for 30 years and stock prices went significantly higher and they keep voting and mass for people left-wing and right wing that vow to not alter any of that. At least an America we have a large millennial generation in the generation after us is relatively large and in theory as we start the age and do have families we can finally start to outflow the boomers but the problem is so many young people are still even further left-wing than the boomers at least right now and they want to expand these programs not shrink them. I really don't know how it will end for Europe but I'm pretty sure in America it's going to be a lot more of the same because we have the US dollar reserve currency so we will just pay for the higher nominal cost in monetize it until that trick doesn't work anymore and inflation gets too high but that could be another 20-30 years. All that I can think to do is to make as much money as possible in low tax ways and put it into ownership of land and real estate as well as ownership and companies and set up a trust. At least an America I think ideally we would get rid of all government welfare and have optional insurance programs but at least have an opt out It's just ridiculous that I can't opt out of welfare programs of never used it never will use and I'm force by the barrel of a gun to pay for something that I never voted for don't want and don't need.
in general the doing the maths of ecnomonics is super hard, bc a lot changes all the time
basically its not moral that one person is being forced to pay for another person, thats the deeply root cause of all problems, any society not understanding this is heading for destruction in some form, most funny one is the one dieing in piece in dypers, bc there are no young people anymore
Im sure US is better off than EU, and especially than Germany, which is the head of EU
Voting is a right that should be earned, not gifted to you. You can’t appreciate something as fully if you didn’t sweat for it. That’s Human nature.
Agreed; and it should be also liable to been taken (in well controlled situations like major cognitive decline or psychiatric issues, of course, to prevent abuse).
One might argue also against making all votes equal, at least in specific contexts: the opinions of Joe the surgeon should not count as much as the ones from Joe the certified accountant when deciding about budgets and vice versa when handling medical/pharmaceutical issues.
Do you believe you personally have earned the right to vote? Even if you do, have you considered that maybe the person deciding who can and can't vote might not agree?
No.
Laws the politicians make impact everybody including the poor … if all the politicians did was decide on how much taxes is collected and what it’s spent on, then OK. But they don’t just do that! They make laws on everything!!! Including what you can post of social media etc. So we all have to vote!
I think Heinlein had it right when it came to voting in Starship Troopers.
@@alexpotts6520 Should I be given the right? Well, I’m an American citizen who possesses at the very least basic historical literacy and produces more than what he consumes. To answer your last question: Yes, but then evidence should be shown to prove him that allowing every one to vote is pure idiocy.
Yes, next question
Can you do One about Portugal?
He will get next no views
What is wrong with Portugal?
@@blue18404small population
@@deborafernandes1026 the metric of replacement is based on Industrial factory needs. Future workers. That is not needed anymore. You aren't actually dying out.
@@davidgarcia5593 i dont mind them ,they are welcomed ! What i dont want are people from south Ásia ,that dont follow the same religion or customs
We should really speed up that artificial womb project.
please no, we have a current society that treats men like an ATM, this will make a woman just a womb. This is the road of hell and we need to get off it. Every child needs a father and a mother.
No, we need mandatory Church baptisms
@jostnamane3951 how is that going to do anything, baptizing someone doesn't suddenly make him believe in God
@@trevdestroyer8209 The focus isn't on belief in God but on encouraging people to have more children. Infant baptisms in Georgia contributed to raising the fertility rate from a historic low of 1.55 children per woman in 2003 to 2.20 children per woman in 2015, largely due to the efforts of the Orthodox Patriarch. You can be a non-believer even if you were baptized as a child, that's upto you.
@@jostnamane3951 but I still don't understand how baptism increases birth rates
I honestly think a massive amount of immigrants whom the richer majority doesn't see as worthy of aid and the power to vote is more of a risk to long term democracy than just a generational divide. It is my opinion that democracy would be more likely to fall in Europe by migrants forming a large enough minority that's different enough to risk the majority power than by age differences (although interest differences between majority and minority can come from age structure as well as class or/and culture). Historically, that's how I read Algeria getting independence from France and Portugal giving away its colonies right before becoming a real democracy: a choice between universal democracy in a nation state or dictatorship in a multiethnic empire, since volkdemocracy of the apartheid type was becoming unacceptable, and the people of the core didn't perceive the colonials as their own people or their equals. As a side note, I just would refrain from saying that north Africa and the middle east are booming in terms of population, because they aren't. Many of those countries are at or below 2 children per woman already, and if people continue migrating soon it will be a problem for them as it is for eastern europe.
We will have to disconnect our grannies from the server 😭
Can you do Turkey too? Definitely a very interesting case here
10:01 of course it's wrong Those who don't have children. and maintaining wealth using private property makes it difficult for young people to own a home
10:20 that way we need new sistem. which prioritizes the future of the country rather than the personal interests of a group
The problem seems clear to me: Work.
The solution also clear, but not technically easy: Full automation of all public systems of basic production (water, food, electricity, cleaning, waste management, drug production, health, self-rapair, etc), and free distribution of those resources.
If we have robots who work for free, there is no need to the younger generations to carry the older ones.
who fixes them ?the resources ? we alwqys need young people
@@marvin2678 what do you mean by fix
we live in the worst timeline
This all must be ended with debt jubilee
they wont let me say this in English i am going to try this in Czech
Snižování počtu obyvatel to nezpůsobí, protože všichni ti staří lidé nebudou žít o moc déle a porodnost je stejná už asi 50 let, takže po odchodu boomers bude pokles mnohem pomalejší a nakonec budou mít lidé více dětí, když je populace příliš nízká, ale imigrace by mohla způsobit velké problémy. ale existují multietnické demokracie jako indie a některé africké země dokonce i některé muslimské demokracie jako senegal a malajsie. ale tyto země mají ve srovnání s evropou hodně problémů takže to bude mnohem horší než v moderní době. a v tomto případě to bude ještě extrémnější protože máte lidi kteří jsou doslova z celého světa.
myslím, že skutečný problém je v tom, že naše moderní kultura už není tak demokratická a svobodomyslná, což stejně způsobuje problémy, které teď máme. lidé žádají o menší imigraci, ale politici je ignorují a trestají lidi jen za to, že o to žádají. stačí se podívat na aroganci irských politiků, jak se ti lidé vůbec nechali zvolit. ve spoustě evropských zemí máte masivní koalice všech ne pravicových stran spojené jen proto, aby se pravice nedostala ven. všechno od socialistů po libertariány spojené do něčeho, co nedává smysl. korporace také podporují toxické myšlenky a většině lidí, kteří se bouří, na svobodě také nezáleží. a inspirují se u Adolfa malíře nebo rusů nebo jiných padouchů, není to jako bojovníci za svobodu v minulosti
I had to translate it, and damn you actually make a really good point.
Living in W-Europe, I see a big balkanization. In the cities, you have immigrants. On the countryside the natives. The native white woman are whoring and slutting around on their inheritance. Lots of my male friends bought with inheritance big mansions where they live alone. Hoping to attract a female... that never comes. The females have inheritances on their own and spend their lifes screwing around and travelling. in the white areas, you dont see immigrants. Its still like the '60s there...
sure, population is shrinking massively but somehow we manage because the natives who reproduce live near each other. The ones who dont inherit or cant count on community dont get children. Looking at my family, its simply amazing how much help is needed from the family just to raise it. Grandparents, aunts, uncles... all are babysitting and driving the kids around.. nonstop.. Community is everything. The same for the very old. A whole family is needed just to look after them and drive them around.
I honestly are more afraid for civil war. In france there was a murder of a white teacher by his students and they did a survey in the french schools. HALF of muslim kids approved the murder. When social benefits will shrink this will inevitably explode.
Still, white europe doesnt have problems (yet). If you look at the amount of money people spend on travels, hobbies, life coaches and meaning-searching events, on shrinks, chiropractor, hypnotists... its massive. People go travelling every few months. Even the poor. I think the gap between the winners (the ones that get inheritance), and losers will widen and the losers will die off fast. In racial civil wars or otherwise...
Karma for Europe destroying half the world what goes around comes around
@@neverlookback1244this is a very immature way to look at the current developments in Europe
@@DiggerWingl this is for all the crimes they have committed in name of civilization,God has answered our forefathers who were brutally killed
You know a lot of wealthy people, there is nothing like that here, just depression and nihilism.
@@neverlookback1244 What Europe did that other nations didn't? The difference is in Europe you can talk about it. However it seems that it was a mistake.
im just going to choose the least sucky path :(
Tbh the EU's eastward expansion might have been a mistake and maybe after the Cold War ended; an Intermarium exclusive to Eastern Europe should have been set up (say led by Poland), while a "Western European Union" should have been made bound only to Western Europe and perhaps parts of Northern Europe.
Most European Countrys are growing unstable for a lot of Reasons and a strong Political shift isn't unlikly. I have honestly a hard time beliving that our (Germany) Goverment and Politcal System survives the next 30 Years if the old Partys (CDU and SPD) don't change what theyre doing
Can you make a video on a potential impact on the world demographics and economy if longevity studies turn out to be successful? i.e., with advance in medicine and science we would be able to 'cure' aging and humans would live much longer, productive lives. This can actually be a potential solution to many of these problems, even though it might take quite a lot of time to get there.
or it would make everything worse, bc nobody votes for increasing retirement age.
15:45 that is pretty much my worldview.
Money printing alone cannot attribute the increase in real estate prices. Banking and loans is an important factor in its own, because it skews supply and demand (also of money btw). Second is "population growth," a.k.a. immigration which of course also skews supply and demand heavily on the real estate market, since immigrants can't live at home with their parents. When they arrive they need housing immediately, whether they pay for it themselves, or get it through state grants or welfare. Either way, real estate owners (and industrial elites) win.
The fundamental underlying problem is called FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING. This system enables government and banks to grow into monstrous proportions, print money out of thin air (out of debt to be precise) and extract wealth from the populus through hidden tax of inflation.
Governments would never be able do wage massive wars or maintain colossal welfare system without fractional reserve banking.
Great book on this topic The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin
Another reasons for this crisis are abandonment of religion and traditional country way of life, urbanization and industrialization, rise of extreme individualism, hedonism and welfare state.
What if - bear with me here because this is a really complicated idea - we built more houses?
@@alexpotts6520 Sure, tho most normal income families cannot afford building new houses, and peeps with profit motives don't wanna sell them cheap. It's way more expensive to build new houses that it is to buy used ones, yet. New regulation also makes sure the price for building new remains exorbitantly high, and if you ask me, it's in the interest of elites to keep on adding regulation to ensure building new is super expensive. Also keep in mind there's still centralization going on, so real estate prices in central areas are also prohibitively expensive. Especially now that Black Rock is buying land wherever they can find it.
@@kebman You realise that one of the main reasons that houses are so unaffordable is because there aren't enough of them, right? If the quantity is there then affordability follows almost automatically.
And if private builders are sitting on empty land, the state could force them to "use it or lose it" through punitive taxation. The state could also build more of its own homes. Much could be done without demonising immigrants.
@@alexpotts6520 You know, there's a far cheaper way to make real estate more affordable. Simply stop immigration. Instead of raising capital, you can just stop people at the border and tell them, sorry, no vacancy. All our houses are taken. The benefit for the native youths would be tremendous as housing suddenly becomes way more affordable, and best of all, nobody would have to work more in order to build more houses. Win-win, right? No. It's not win-win. The elites would lose on that deal. Look, if you can influence the elite, then maybe, but you can't. But I'm sure you can convince a bank or some VC to build a new city block. If you're into that, well, I think I just showed you how to get rich.
Regarding the wealth gap between generations, one aspect that wasn't brought up in this video (and isn't often brought up in general) is inheritance. At the same time as the baby boomer generations starts dying off, will their assets not move over to their children and be a new source of wealth to them? I live in Iraq and inheritance here is a very strong source of wealth for a lot of individuals upon hitting their 40s, and once they get their inheritance a bunch of them start businesses and other investment projects. Is inheritance of property, gold, and other assets not as prominent of a source of wealth in Western countries?
You kick your kids at 18 years old the kids cut all ties to their parents when the parents get old they move to care homes and when they die the government takes their homes
Yeah, but people in Europe nowadays inherit once they themselves are closing in on retirement
From Middle East to central Asia, you have different mentality, family structure, and also you have to do it, so you can live. Europe and USA is now simply too comfortable to do it, but also incredibly time consuming, dealing in business mostly with laws and regulations, than services and products.
@@radeksilar543 Yeah, salaries here are pretty low in general. If you see a rich middle eastern person they're either in real restate, a business owner or a corrupt government official.
@@testboga5991 they inherit when they're 60? How old are their parents, a 100?
Read _Democracy a god that failed_
democracy isnt the problem, the problem is how you do it, like if you are in a company you really want to have democracy, but you dont want anybody outside of your company having a right to vote.
We now have a democracies were everybody has an equal right to vote, meaning they vote in their best interest, meaning the largest group, the old vote for policies benefitting the old of the expense of the old.
Im not saying we should let the old die, but we have turned into a global society, where you can choose to be a complete failure and still get the benefits like somebody who chooses to carry the burden of success which is insane
We need protection of all humans life from moment of conception.
Even if I agree, the truth is most people are more in favour of protecting their own people than humans in general. A shame but I don’t know what will change them.
Very insightful video, but I disagree with how this all plays out in the longterm. Islam's track record with other cultures is one of rape, theft, forced conversion and death or subjugation. The rape of cologne was the norm, not the exception. I hope I am wrong