How to Fix a BAD Kitchen Cabinet Paint Job | The Wood Whisperer
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There's no more hotly debated topic in DIY circles than painting wood cabinets. I learned that the hard way when I posted a Kitchen Cabinet Painting video a couple years ago. • Painting Oak Cabinets ...
Regardless of how you personally feel about the topic, you might one day be confronted with the challenge of fixing a bad kitchen paint job, either in your own home or someone else's. The problem with the DIY painting trend is that a lot of people don't actually know how to paint or what tools to use, resulting in orange peel, drips, and uneven layers. I'm certainly no professional painter but I do have enough knowledge and tools to improve a bad paint job, and that's what we did in this video. Hopefully, this will help you if you have to fix a BAD Kitchen Cabinet Paint Job.
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00:00 Should you paint your cabinets?
00:43 Dooty Cabinets
01:27 Paint in Gaps and Excess Paint
02:12 Take the Doors Off!
03:18 How to handle built up paint
05:06 Removing the dust
05:29 Working on the cabinets
06:18 Check out TWWstore.com
06:38 Caulk Talk
08:39 Before and After Caulk
09:42 Use a good quality brush or roller
12:20 Using HVLP to apply paint to doors
13:50 Marc's patented mixing stick
14:29 Options to consider on a sprayer
15:54 Final Look
16:13 Outtakes
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Painting company owner here... A few tips and critiques....
1. Always remove the doors/drawers and label them. It might seem obvious where they go, but believe me, it's not.
2. Make sure that your top coat is rated for cabinetry. Emerald is rated for wood, but not specifically cabinetry because the cured topcoat isn't hard enough. This is the biggest mistake I see in DIY cabinet jobs and it's one of the most costly to fix. If it's not rated for cabinetry, it will chip/peel in the most used areas.
3. Clean, clean, clean. Mild detergent and water. Scrub with a green pad, especially the doors/drawers over and around the cooktop.
4. If you enjoy using your kitchen, just hire a professional. Most cabinet jobs take the pros 5 days to do it right. It could take 3 weeks or more for a homeowner who has a job and other distractions. If you really want to DIY, call around and find a pro who can walk you through the tough spots.
5. Always use your own caulk. Never borrow your neighbor's.
You say that "This is the biggest mistake I see in DIY cabinet jobs and it's one of the most costly to fix. "
Your comment caught my eyes, I have cabinets with a peeling top coat, and after I read online I assumed the usual suspects: not enough cleaning, no primer, or no sanding of the previous finish was done by the previous owner/their painter, but looking at my cabinet the top coat does seem soft.
How do you suggest dealing with such a problem? My initial though is to bring everything back to the bare wood or is there a special trick that the pros use in such case?
@@paulchevalier5035 We run into cabinets painted with wall paint all the time, and this is what your issue sounds like. We'll take a random orbit sander with 100 grit on it and go over every surface thoroughly taking off anything that wants to come off easily.
Once that's done, you can use a product from Ben Moore called Command. No need to prime except for using some oil primer in the bare wood spots that come off. Put on two full coats, preferably with a sprayer, but you can brush it on with a brown bristle Purdy (something fine and soft).
Let them dry overnight and put them back together.
I've been doing that for over 10 years and I offer a 10 year labor warranty on my interior work. I've never had more than a chip from a broken plate or some over rambunctious boys playing too rough around them.
@@dgoddard wow this is super helpful. Thank you very much for such a detailed answer!
I know someone with truly professionally painted cabinets and that sounds more like what you describe here.
Have a great day dear stranger of the Internet!
@@paulchevalier5035 No problem, buddy.
Can you tell me what is the best paint for kitchen cabinets? I have used some in the past (latex) that were supposed to be for cabinets (those brands were Porter and Behr) and they get really soft and gummy (and dirty looking) in the areas near the pulls where our hands get in contact with the cabinet. I'd like a good recommendation of exactly what to buy.
I am soooo glad you managed to do the mature thing and resist any of the potential 'caulk' jokes. I really liked the way you used your caulk, you seemed to have a good grip on your caulk, not too hard, not too loose, and your caulk was very, very smooth.
😅🤣😂
You mentioned HVLP sprayers are as little as $100, the proceeded to use a top of the line $1600 HVLP. You should make a video on how much do you really need to spend on a HVLP setup? I know the high end multi stage ones are better for thick paints, but some of the cheap ones claim to work with all paints too. How much can you get away with thinning paint (or clear finish) and still get good results? I've been interested in picking up a HVLP sprayer, but im worried if i get one of the cheaper ones I'll regret it. But I'm not doing this professionally, so I don't want to waste money on an expensive sprayer if i don't need it.
As a cabinet maker, and the finisher for myself and another high end shop, I salute you for fixing that crime against cabinetry 👍 your spray finish looks great for contending with what was existing there.
I am glad you mentioned marking the doors for where they go. This is so huge imo. Best way to mark them for refinishing in my opinion is to put your number/info under the hinges. Where it wont be seen anyways. This is really easy when doing doors that have euro hinges.
One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention: lots of people use painter's tape to ensure a clean bead. This is a process known as "caulk block."
[I'll show myself out]
Cheers, Marc!
With all respect, a Fuji Spray Q5 PLATINUM - HVLP Paint Sprayer System at Home Depot is almost $1700. It’s on my wishlist.
Hey Marc! I feel ya on the "Marc not Mark" issue. My grandson has the same problem. Look forward to your content, get completely settled in so we can see some more!
Marc, not to be too picky but that Q5 is not just a hundred bucks......for most thick paints, even with Flotrol, you would need every part of those 5 turbines to spray that stuff.
Came here to find this comment, or at the very best a link to a $100 Fuji Q5 Platinum! Maybe if you already have a solid pneumatic setup you could get a gun for $100? Really curious what the end mix ratio would need to be to force through latex paint….
Mar(k)’s sense of humor in this one is fantastic 😂
Unrelated, but not. I just want to take a moment and thank you for not succumbing to the "clickbait title" trend. You're good. You know you're good. So you don't need to trick people into watching your videos. You are a champion, and I really appreciate you.
Good coverage on the face is always a must.
Teriffic White Caulk, love to see it
I find that I can use a paint brush to knock down the texture left by a roller. This works well on cabinet frames since they are narrow and a single brush stroke can smooth the entire surface.
We painted our kitchen and the first thing I did was wash the cabinet surfaces with TSP, the real stuff, not a TSP substitute. It made a huge difference.
There are so many different bad paint jobs ...
My kitchen cabinets are from the mid-20th century, and built like tanks. The original finish was factory-applied white paint, aged to a not very attractive cream. A previous owner slapped on a coat of cheap baby blue latex paint - I don't think they washed the cabinets first.
When I decided to paint my cabinets a color I like, I washed them, and the paint began peeling off. So now I'm stuck removing all the blue paint. Sanding won't help, as I need to get down to the original paint, clean and sand that, then proceed. Any blue paint left might peel later, it *all* needs to be removed.
I'll do my paint job right - good prep, a little more prep, and Ben Moore's Advance cabinet paint.
Incongruous. Kitchen finishes looked awfully nice to have such a butchered paint job. In our house, the previous owners tried to spruce up dark-stained oak-veneered cabinets with a belt sander and new stain. Paint made a huge difference. Also consider new hinges and pulls.
You knowing how to apply different finishes aided you well on this project. Nice job Marc
I can NOT believe you wasted a perfectly good twig to stir the paint! It's not like they grow on trees, ya know!
Nice job. I like these home improvement videos you do. You come at it from the woodworker's perspective. More demanding and knowledgeable than the DIYer approach.
I’ve had clients want quick and dirty, I am incapable of doing it. I always think when I leave the job site my name is on it so I refuse the work.
I made custom oak, walnut stained, cabinet doors for our house before we sold it. They were beautiful. The people that bought the house from us loved them and it's what sealed the deal. They just sold that house and painted the cabinets white. :(
That's so sad I'm sorry
Spot on! Very good video about fixing and sprucing up cabinets on a budget. Thank you for sharing, MarC 😁
Dunno who installed the cabinets back in the day, but man, it seems to have been a very lacking job...
Very useful information. Thank you.
Thanks for the video. I am in the process of building replacement raise panel doors for my kitchen cabinets (circa 1965). Bulletproof painted wooden boxes will get new paint grade maple doors. I will be priming the panels before frame construction. I had questions on the best way to paint the doors, you have answered all my questions. Thank you
Beautiful job!❤
Nice job! I'm in the process of doing the same in my kitchen. I'm using BM Advanced paint, it levels out nicely and seems really tough. I am using a $79 HVLP (air compressor type), it is doing a good job. BTW, can you tell me where I can get a Fuji Q5 for $100? haha
That Sherwin Williams Emerald paint is awesome that is the only paint I use now for cabinets.
shellac primer is the way to go in kitchens because it will bond over grease and any finish . general finishes milk paint for top coat if your going to roll it . otherwise use nitro . you need surf prep sandpaper with a .5 foam for doors. baby wipes cleans up caulk better than anything.
What a huge difference.love ya work
Intro..thanks Marck. Now I fixed it.
and you said duty...lol
Intellectually I'm 12.
Chronological age is 50...
As always thank you for the inspiration.
The caulk reminded me of the ol' snl skit about soaking corks. Lol great video as always.
Great video Marc. I really appreciate that you’ve matured and gotten past the low hanging fruit of caulk jokes. I couldn’t detect any innuendos or double entendres at all. Using your bare hand for a better feel was a great tip, and I find that easy to follow. To follow along better, I watched the entire video with my caulk out. Plus I’ve also matured!!
When you were painting you sounded like Bob Ross. Fantastic!
If you have to thin your paint with water only use distilled water, city and well water contain, among other things, chlorine which can discolor the original color of the paint.
Love Emerald Urethane. Great choice.
Love it!
Gotta get me one of those custom stir sticks 😂
They are so common, it’s almost like they grow on trees or something… 😁
When painting them white I use spray cans of appliance epoxy. It’s bulletproof. Can’t scratch it easily, bonds very well to most surfaces and leaves a smooth look. Only downside, high gloss only
Haven’t heard missed spots called holidays since I was in the Navy.
So was it just one coat with the sprayer on the doors? Looks like you may have made a couple of passes (vertical/horizontal) and that was it? Turned out so much better than the roller!
New sub . Thanks Marc.I respect your maturity 😂😂😂
What Mark said but too add too it. If a job is once begun, never leave it till it's done. Be the labor greater small do it well or not at all.
Dude really embracing the Missouri. Using a stick to stir the paint 😂 How long did it take you to tune out the banjos playing in the background? Glad you’re here hope to run into you around town.
Cheers to the Caulkmaster
The slow zoom-ins at 2:13 and 2:25 made it feel like a horror movie 😆
What brand of stick are you using?
Insert your pro paint advice here. Also good to see after all these years you've finally grown up! 👍
@woodwhisperer can you please tell me what is the name of your air compressor and is it good enough for using something other than paint? I'm making a list of necessary tools for my new business Dusty Wood Adventures
I was with you right up to the stick. HVLP red-kneckery.
Already moving again? Finishing (paint or otherwise) is sometimes a wood workers issue and IMO part of it all. Getting better at is always a good thing. Looking at a kitchen remodel in our 60's home soon and will be thinking about taking this task on. Not sure weather we want to build cabinets or maybe just buy some RTA non-finished and work that route. I will likely be making a vanity to replace a pedestal sink in our master bath (needs storage) and a cabinets in another bathroom to match what we pick out in the kitchen for flow. Finishing will likely be on me for most. Will likely invest in a decent set up for this job and will carry me a bit in the future.
I feel validated after you used the stick to stir the paint 😂
Curious why you didn't prime bare wood before adding final coat? My experience (I let my wife and her friend do the painting) was that the paint lifted off within two years, I am watching this as I need to redo my kitchen cabinets too. I have some funky molding which is always dirty and may opt to redo the door style completely. Different topic...
I couldn’t find that 5 stage sprayer for $100
Is there a link for that
Fantastic work, Marc! Nicely done! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
What grit and material of sandpaper?
This is an FYI for diy people about caulking...there's a thin membrane inside the nozzle area you have to pierce with a long skewer or needle...ur welcome...lol...first time I used one I put a lot of force in the handle thinking it was just a suction thing...the next thing I knew it was coming out the back end...messy lesson that hubby explained AFTER he was done laughing at my expense
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Darn it, I was going to buy a T-shirt from you but wanted it in black black black and a bit of white, guessing I better keep looking 😢
if your trying to higher someone to paint your cabinets ask them what kind of paint do you use. if they don't say lacquer paint then they don't know what their doing .they don't sell this at home depot . you usally have to get it from a commercial paint store. most house painters don't know what paint to use . you can get a good finish some other products but 90 percent
of cabinets companies use lacquer.
I’m glad he matured over the years and doesn’t do any caulk jokes 🤣🤣
I pain the wrong color on my kitchen cabinets, can I paint over a new color, or I have to sand it againg???
You handle your caulk like a pro
Marks losing his passion for craft! He’s starting to do things I’d do!!! 😂 Nice stir stick!
At her old job, my mom once tried a sample of that Tom of Maine natural toothpaste, and exclaimed "this stuff tastes like caulk!" Everyone just about peed themselves. True story.
It's hilarious that no matter how old we guys get, we still enjoy silly caulk jokes. LOL
Caulk and paint make a carpenter what they ain't.
You should have…. Nevermind. They turned out great.
6:59 lol
I almost made it through the video without laughing but agree that you shouldn’t be afraid to use your hands when dealing with caulk
I painted our bare cabinets 12 years ago and I think it's time to spruce them up again by lightly sanding them and repainting them. I used just a brush the first time and the look is definitely different than a sprayed one. I installed a new pantry and sprayed that one and the finish and look doesn't match the rest of the kitchen. They are all builder grade Home Depot oak cabinets. I've done about all I can to strengthen them up as they are very poorly built using particle board and staples. If I rebuilt them with glue and butt joints they would be miles better than these.
13:56, too funny.
First you pull out your caulk, and later you twirl the twig...jeeze man, surprised you get any work done.
Bahaha...goobers and doodees...someone has kids me thinks...thanks for keeping it kid friendly! Nice explanation
It also helps if you wet your finger a bit before smoothing...I've picked up a cheap tool since then that leaves a cleaner line
Marc always talking about his caulk
Even Frenchy here heard all the puns about the caulk, the word I would never try to pronounce...
Next time: our intrepid host paints a unique textured finish using only a thick nap roller.
How much you charge to repaint kitchen cabinets?
Time for a painted furniture build... >_>
I’m not a fan of painting but sometimes it’s the right choice.
You’re selling the house you just bought in MO? Did I miss something?
Not his house, said it was a favor.
That's a really nice kitchen not to take the doors off when painting those cabinets.
Wait wait wait are you moving AGAIN? Did I miss that detail in the video? lol
3:40 I could go for a heavy nap, I dunno about you.
13:24 Isn’t that SpongeBob’s method for blowing bubbles?!
Where can I find a fuji q5 for $100??!?!
I'm wearing the same shirt right now.
And in today's episode of "Why My Girlfriend Loves Woodworking"... 7:41
Moving again?
Caulk jokes!
I Always use bare hands when applying my caulk
That's what she said, that's what she said, that's what she said .... 😅
Personally I prefer painted cabinets for kitchens, they take up so much of the visual space in the room that unless you make them out of really high quality tight grained oak or similar, it is incredibly hard to get a nice, bright feel in the room while also feeling consistent. Painting covers a lot of sins without making the room feel cheap.
Regarding gaps, if you're dealing with anything less than maybe 1/16", Kilz primer is thick enough to fill all of that in if you lay it on heavy. Way easier than trying to caulk and smooth and then getting mad that it doesn't lay out right. Good thick coat of Kilz to start with, couple coats of your actual trim paint, should be good to go.
Don’t be afraid to use your bare hands with your caulk? Is there any other way?
Wait are you moving already??
My brother is Marc. Roc on
Lol!
Thanks mark great cock video!
(No really this is a nice video lol thanks for talking abt it)
ventilation, schemtilation