If something can cost $8 and be shown to not have hidden moral costs that's great, but it sure feels like mainstream retailers are just buying the same $1.34 items and selling them for $8...
Nah there's definitely first worlder "tax" added, because 1,5£ for a peeler or anything similar is a pretty normal store price (like physical store) in the second world
i use the silicone kneading bag mostly as a replacement for plastic bags (shaking food with breading like cornstarch or flour) and ziploc bags (for marinating)
I was thinking keeping something like a soup or stew in a bowl while you transport it to a pot luck or something. Sort of put the bag in a bowl, then pour the soup/stew in it and then sealing it. If it only had the fastener like the Stasher bags do.
@@MumrikDK That is my concern with everything Temu and food contact. A microplane you get there for pennies on the dollar is made from stainless steel - nothing they can mess up. A plastic item? I wouldn't buy that if it was made around the corner of my house since I try to avoid plastic in general, but I would be double suspicious with Temu products although in reality that is probably unfounded because the expensive product in your local store has a very good chance to come from the same manufacturer in China...
4:22 Thank you Ben!! Where I work, wearing gloves for pretty much everything is part of corporate's standards, but I'm always having to ask cooks to change their gloves multiple times, especially when plating, because their gloves are dirty but they don't notice. Give me *actually* clean hands over the false sense of security of gloves any day!
It's true. When you wear gloves, it's harder to tell when the gloves are dirty because you can't feel it on your hands. So many things, especially in a kitchen, can make your hands dirty but aren't readily visible (like pretty much every cooking oil or related product.)
Then people didn't wash their hands enough either. The only difference is people bring dirt from other rooms in on their hands and only transfer kitchen stuff on gloves. So gloves are that little bit better for pure safety.
@@blairhoughton7918 When you don't do anything in a kitchen and only look at it on paper, sure. But when you see how real people behave, it doesn't actually work out that way.
Price is mentioned "we'll talk about that later", quality is mentioned "we'll talk about that later", i know it likely would of been a hot topic, but would of been nice to see that discussion in the video after it was mentioned that it would be discussed later
It's not a hot topic, temu uses cheap low quality, mass produced products to provide customers a seemingly "catchless" cheap shopping experience. Sorted are SUPPORTING TEMU. Every time they recommend a product they say TEMU and every time one doesn't work they blame the INDIVIDUAL product and not the platform that is EXPLOITIVE. Sorted need to do better, as you said they hinted at it but clearly cut it or didn't bother, part of sorted's brand is it's progressive stance on the food industry yet this seems like chasing trends and skipping important safety over youtube engagement. ----Here is a statement from the EU.--- Commenting in a statement, Monique Goyens, director general at BEUC, accused the marketplace of being “rife with manipulative techniques” designed to push consumers to spend more, and claimed insufficient information about traders “frequently leav[es] consumers in the dark about who they are purchasing products from.” “This lack of traceability prevents consumers from taking an informed decision or to know if a product complies with EU safety rules,” she added. The consumer protection groups are also raising concerns about minor safety, pointing out the extreme price discounting and gamification features baked into Temu’s platform are likely to be attractive to children. “Temu does not guarantee its users a safe, predictable, and trustworthy online environment as the law requires,” they argue in the complaint. “Among other things, we have strong concerns that consumers are falling prey to manipulative techniques, that Temu fails to ensure the traceability of the traders operating on its platform, or that its overall functioning remains opaque, all of which breach the Digital Services Act.” “Ultimately, the high number of dangerous products sold on Temu by untraceable traders, through manipulative practices and opaque recommender systems, are ingredients of a toxic cocktail likely to impair minors’ privacy, safety, and security,” the groups also warn. The coordinated complaints follow some individual actions by consumer groups concerned about the safety and legality of products for sale on Temu’s marketplace. For example, last fall, Italian consumer group Altroconsumo ran a test of cosmetics purchased on the platform and found the vast majority failed to list (or fully list) ingredients.
@@aknee3042 I agree it was mentioned briefly however it was more an offhand comment, compared to usual format they do. The whole thing for Temu is literally "look at all these products at unethically low prices" and it was quite clearly scripted to be something of a main topic to bring up instead of the offhand comment shown on the video, just feels missing from the video.
Yep, felt a bit cheap. Don't think it would have been difficult to call it a disgusting and unethical business and why that is, I don't think that's even controversial. Sweatshops, unreasonably cheap trash etc
The dolma roller is made for traditional Egyptian, Lebanese, or middle eastern vine leaf rolls “mahshi waraa enab” which are quite small and usually made in very large quantities. I’d use the roller to make smaller rolls in bulk.
1:49 I struggle with eczema on my palms and whenever I have a flare-up, kneading dough is genuinely one of the things I miss the most (just as an option). It really is therapeutic, nothing better than having a mixture that doesn't look like it's ever gonna come together and turning it into a supple workable dough within minutes of work.
@@kristin123a They could wear gloves. Although, I suppose that the bag would be more comfortable than gloves, and also would be reusable. But you'd still probably need gloves to remove it from the bag too. As ebbers showed, you can't get that folding motion in the bag anyway, so you still can't kneed it entirely in the bag.
@@shllybkwrm the bag is reusable and gloves are not. But more than that, gloves are on the hand and restrict airflow and hold moisture. Gloves might make the eczema worse. Handling the bag is much less stressful on the hands than wearing gloves.
Reminder for Ben, the palm peeler was probably first developed for people with issues using their hands. Holding a normal peeler handle may not be possible for some people, or they may need to apply more pressure than their hands and arms can do, to use it. Where this moves everything right into the hand and lets them use their hand in a more natural position and manner that is easier.
I use one or my arthritic hands only last two minutes of peeling before I have to give up and use skin-on veg. It has a bit of a learning curve for smaller round things, though. Took me ages and lots of wonky potatoes.
Even without arthritis, my first job after culinary school frequently involved peeling hundreds of pounds of vegetables in a day, for stock and house made fries. After several hours of peeling carrots of spuds my hands cramped pretty hard even with an "ergonomic" peeler. If there had been a palm peeler the, or if I'd known about it back then if it already existed, I'd have been all over it. Doing some searching there are better quality ones out there from other sources.
Also in fairness to Ben, they did kinda get around to that later and he was like "oh yeah" so he probably just spaced here. I may have jumped the gun a little but maybe the reminder will be helpful to others here!
The way you can literally see the moment that Barry nopes out of the demo at 7:10 is hilarious... They complain about the Bennundos but the poor man specifically asked for a potato to peel and was not given one, even though there was a potato on hand...
What they said. Temu is a better-organized Alibaba. It operates as a reseller site, so it's even less conflicted than Amazon, which has resellers but also resells for itself and makes its own brands.
@@inh415 as well they tell the factories what to sell there products, so they can force the factories to sell at a loss to gain consumers. so it's not just a marketplace but a controlled one
That pizza slide thing will be a GAME CHANGER with gluten free doughs. Without gluten the doughs are extremely crumbly and just getting a dough to a baking sheet always results in holes that then can’t really be patched.
Yes! People need to be educated about the hidden cost of cheap goods! From environmental, cultural, ethical and moral standpoints. So proud of you guys to highlight that! ❤
They should be pointing that out with the expensive goods that come from the same factory for more than triple the price. Whatever Temu sells, is whatever the original maker is having the factory make. Except that Temu sells it for far less than the original would have everyone else pay. There is no additional cost
@@roboteen There's actually reduced costs because temu's long shipping times are due to manufacture to demand, which means no warehouses, which add cost and price to things.
@@SortedFoodTemu/PDD are incredibly sketchy. Subsidizing shipping etc by more than price of items, using malware techniques against other apps on your phone, forced labor, forcing factories to price under cost to manufacture, dangerous materials in things used for food....
One of the most frustrating things is when you're in a small country that can be easily missed when things are invented. I'm in NZ and despite being a first world country we're so often forgotten or seen as not worth the effort when companies make things. My mum has bad arthritis and that peeler sounds like it could be really good for her but when I try and search for one in NZ the only places suggested to me are temu or obvious dropshippers who would then take the additional money as profit and just order it from temu anyway. I won't order from temu due to the moral issues but it also really cuts down on the number of things you can buy when places just simply forget your country.
Lmao you people are hilarious, you'll pay for a ridiculous mark up and think it means things are more ethical when there's just as much, if not more human exploitation occurring.
Honestly that would be a wonderful reality to live in but many more expensive companies aren't any better than Temu probably, their profit margins are just way higher. Or Temu is indeed even shittier and has the same profit margins but just insanely horrible working conditions etc. But I kinda doubt that more horrible is really that possible
2:41 A fair point, Ebbers, but...Bowls exist and already solve that problem. Literally every time I've made egg pasta, I just work in a mixing bowl. This is just a mixing bowl with extra steps.
It’s the smiles of each crew members is what makes me keep wanting to watch the videos more and more! I respect all the efforts and the amount of dedication sorted family puts in. Kudos! 😊
I make pizza dough quite often and usually do the initial mixing in a bowl with a spoon. No messy hands at all. 😅 Just use the spoon until everything is combined into a rough to semi-smooth dough and then do the rest by hand later. (I tend to make the dough 8-24h before I actually need it… the initial mixing takes less than 5 mins and as long as you let the dough rest after kneading it the whole process is quite foolproof.)
That is how I also do it. Pretty similar to how I start a sourdough. Quick couple of minutes with the spoon and maybe use a single hand quickly. Let it sit for 15 minutes and do some stretch and folds, then another 15 minutes and another set of stretch and folds and then it is basically conpletely kneeded and just needs time. Really doesnt need to be a messy or cumbersome endeavour to produce some solid bread or pizza dough. Pasta/noodle dough on the other hand is a bit more demanding.
I so appreciate the focus on the ethics behind the production! Absolutely people are being exploited, and the quality is so low it’ll break quickly and one might think, “Oh I’ll just buy a couple because they’re so cheap.” And that mindset is so very damaging- It continues to enabled companies to use exploitive practices. Good on you fellas for holding to the idea that a good product won’t be dirt cheap.
it's only dirt cheap in your country and salary/earning condition. I understand that you cannot see what it means to have a well-built supply chain and industrialised mass production and how it helps to reduce cost, as it may be very far from your life in the country you are from. But do not just sum it all to "people being exploited" when you have no real evidence.
@ELoveHo economy of scale is a factor when discussing cutting costs on production of an item. But to say that you can get an item down to £2 to £3, when an equivalent item would be two or even three times the price, and there's no exploitation going on? That's a hard sell, especially when there have been reports and news stories for the last several decades discussing known and confirmed use of sweatshops, child labor, and yes, even slave labor in production of goods, especially in China. You've got the Uyghur Muslims which are experiencing cultural genocide in China right now and there have been multiple reports and news stories about them being used as essentially slave labor. Could you say that these products used those unethical practices? Not without doing a full review of their production process, but what this commenter and what the sortedfood people are saying is you should be asking "Why is this item so cheap when we wouldn't expect it to be? What's the catch?" And even if there isn't exploitation going into the process, the other point that Ben was making in the video was by offering low prices for low quality items it encourages people to buy them because they're so affordable, realize how bad they are in practice and then throw them out leading to unnecessary trash and wastage. So even if there's no exploitation, setting the price point so low just to get people to buy it but also having the quality be so low that nobody keeps it, is a problem in and of itself. The real question to ask here is not if there was anything shady going on in the production of these products, instead what you should be asking is are you making excuses for your own buying practices because you don't want to find out that the products you have purchased have had unethical practices used to produce them. I'm not making a judgment call on your buying practices, I've bought crap from China all my life because it is often cheaper and I'm not rich so I got to make do with what I can get to be able to do the jobs in my life that I need to do. But if you can get your own life beyond the point of survival, where you have the means to take a more critical view of the options in front of you, then you have two options. Do you take a closer look at your own buying practices and try to moderate them so as to make sure that the products you're buying may be more expensive but also have come from companies that have been using ethical practices, or do you not look too close because you're saving money and you don't want to know the truth? Both viewpoints have merit, I am not going to judge somebody whichever way they go, but it is a question that's worth asking if you are wanting to get into this kind of discussion.
@@ELoveHobruh, they're selling products linked to slavery in the Uyghur autonomous region. Temu has admitted to not prohibiting products from the Uyghur region and that it does not conduct audits and doesn't report compliance to US forced labour law that blocks imports from the region because of slavery. its parent company financially ruins staff who quit & find work elsewhere. An ethical supply chain is not a concern for these guys, and is part of why shit is so cheap.
Re transferable peel: I've tried three different models of those. An expensive all metal ($75) a midrange plastic and metal ($30) and a cheap one, which I think is the same one they used here ($15). It takes a little practice but once you get the hang of it these things are surprisingly useful. The most important features to look for is how thin the leading edge is and how smooth the handle slides up the board. The expensive all-metal model worked the best with a very slender rolling metal bar at the front that picked up practically everything (we didn't try fresh eggs) smoothly, easily, and kept the designs whole when placed on another surface. The midrange was only slightly less as efficient using a metal rod at the working end instead of a roller so that was the best to recommend. The cheapest version, the one they had here, isn't nearly as good because the front end is too thick and there is no roller or bar which causes more rubbing friction that is awkward.
I've had one of those palm peelers for almost 20 years. I loved it then and now that arthritis is creeping into my fingers & wrists - I love it even more. Potatoes aren't that difficult - you just need to practice. Get the feel for using it by doing a bunch of carrots, then move on to the potatoes when using it is second nature. For the dough bag thing - you could use it for the sticky part and then turn the bag inside out, and use it like a glove for the kneading - flipping it back, inside right with the doughball for rising.
I'm assuming the first "gadget" segment would have been twice as girthy if they didn't circumcise the enormous number of condom jokes that had to have been made.
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I love the idea that when planning this video someone in the office decided that this obviously means that it’s pizza day in the office and made three!
the thing about the sliding pizza peel, a big part of its virality also comes with a now deleted video of the demo/prototype of the product being a long piece of parchment and a thin piece of strong cardboard... when maneuvered in the same way (the cardboard for the base, parchment for the nonstick), it is basically an at-home version of what is (or used to originally be) an expensive gadget
French bakeries use a similar mechanism, but the structure is steel and the fabric is cloth and the thing is huge, like 3 m long and 1 m wide. It looks like a hospital gurney. They array a couple of dozen loaves on it, push the table into the oven, then zip it back.
While I fully agree with comments saying that Temu uses sweatshops that unferpay their workers. I want to point out that almost all consumer products you buy have that in their production chains. The reason that Temu is so cheap is that they are willing to lose money while they outprice the competition. Then they are free to increase prices again and make uo for their loss, or just make off with the investment money. I'd argue this is even less ethical than "only" grossly underpaying workers.
Spelled wonderfully, 3/4 of the time that i do a reverse google search on a product on amazon or some other site, they bring straight to temu or aliexpress
Do they underpay? They pay to what the market can bare. The story of a shoe manufacture going into a village and paying 5 times as much as any other company. Ruined the economy because it made the price of basic shy rocket because there are people who could pay more and the other factories worker became poorer. Look at what happen with raising the minimum to quickly in the US. They are making workers do more and hiring less workers. They are automating their business and only need 2 people to work the fast food places. at the same time you are paying twice as much for a burger combo. If I told you that 4 years ago you will be paying $14 to $16 for a fast food combo. You would think I was a nuts. This is what happens when you think you are doing something good in forcing business to play more the market value for labor. People on limited income now have 1/2 the value of their dollar. We can't say they were underplayed because they need to live based on western values. Low cost manual labor mean more people in poorer counties can have a job that pays them a living wage. The value of a homes that are more expensive to build with AC insulation things that are not need to build a house in many other counties. You can not place a 1 to 1 value on products in other counties. As for the Chinese they work because they want something more then the basics. They are given a place to live and allotment of rice for the month, They have everything that is needed to live. Yet they choose to work. If you want a job the local government checks your skills or wants. The office tell you to go to an address and there will be a job for you. Even if they have more people then they need.
Their products are so cheap and they underpay their workers because Temu's real business is being a data harvesting site. Do not buy from Temu if you value your digital privacy. They're worse than even the most egregious social media sites.
I've had a palm peeler like gadget 2 for years and it totally works for most situations. You do have to be a little more careful, as shown with the potato, but overall quite good. I think I paid maybe $4 for mine like 10 years ago. Still sharp, easy to clean.
From what I recall, Chef'n is the brand that made the first Palm Peeler, in that square shape, over 20+ years ago. Chef'n may have changed the shape of it through the years, and I will still purchase a Chef'n product rather than a copycat with questionable "stuff" that goes into the whole process.
The first “gadget” for kneading dough actually appeals to me 😅 the sensory nightmare of having sticky dough on my hands and the clean up afterwards are reasons I don’t enjoy making anything which requires hand-kneading despite generally loving baking. Thanks for always considering how these tools could help disabled people ❤
You have it backwards. They are what happens when the actual manufacturer sells direct. When you grow up and actually want to do something with your life you’ll realize that everything is mass produced in China and sold in your country for much much much more. The only possible complaint here is that the manufacturers are stealing ideas, but typically none of these companies will make anything for you with any sort of contract to not do this, unless you’re a massive corporation.
that leaf roller thing works the same way automatic cigarette rollers work. I used to roll a lot of my own smokes, and used to think this would speed the process up. It doesn't. After years of rolling my own, I settled on just a bamboo mat. It sped up the process, was light weight, easy, consistent. Would definitely recommend it for any rolling task.
How about a twist on the unplanned pick the ingredients challenge by adding a can to each round? Whoever goes first gets to pick from either a known ingredient or a canned (or hidden one. Say written on a card). Give them time based on what they picked, say 5 minutes per known ingredient and 10 per hidden ingredient.
Because it's freaking cool. The science of that fabric is amazing. When I use mine for bread it doesn't even leave residual flour on the peel. And you don't have to flour it to keep the dough from sticking. It takes a little practice (it doesn't need a jerk like a regular peel, even at the end Ben kept letting the flap move) but it's totally brilliant when you get used to the motion. Theirs looked smallish; you really don't want anything hanging off it.
One of my concerns with that "Palm Peeler" is the blade doesn't look too secure in the "device". If it's that cheap it's not using even slightly "premium" materials... so sharp blade in a substandard mounting means a sharp blade actually in your hand if, and when, that blade "pops" out of the palm handle. I was taught never to grab a knife by the blade.
Well, it's about the same as my peeler in my kitchen drawer. Some times, I have had to put the blade back on. Having it in the palm of the hand sounds a bit iffy, but it's also covered by the palm plastic and when it pops off it would be blade down into a veggie.
While you might be right that it may not be secure being so cheap, keep in mind peelers often are more loose fitting by design, to allow it to conform to the shape of uneven produce.
As a Lebanese , vine leaves is a main mezze in the Lebanese cuisine and usually they’re supposed to be rolled very tightly because if its loose it’ll end up ruined while cooking so personally I think this gadget don’t usually work, so best is rolling them by the hand for a tighter roll ☺️ loved the video guys 🤍✨
My family has been using the finger peeler since 2012 when we found one at a farmers market. My family LOVES THEM. I personally prefer a bigger one because the small one tends to dull quicker after a year or so.
I’ve used the dough bag before! We used it when camping to make pizza dough because you can store the bag up your jumper to prove the dough. Honestly it worked really well!
Another mark in the bags favour, it allowed one of the camping group who had physical disabilities to get involved with kneading, which would have been harder for her without the bag. It was a nightmare to clean though
I appreciate the commentary on how Temu is problematic - particularly the pricing creating the temptation to buy and bin. I think you've well established that and can probably now stop supporting Temu with these gadget videos unless they miraculously change their business model. Additionally, having seen products from Temu compared to the descriptions they present online, I have concerns about the reliability of their claims. (Is that silicone bag truly food safe?) That said, I was curious about the pizza peel demonstration and would have liked to see how it performed taking a cooked pizza from the oven. I don't think giving the Temu product more screen time is necessary, though. I do hope the original version of this is at least large enough to accommodate an actual "real-life" sized pizza.
We've had that version of the vegetable peeler in the US for over a decade and cost less than $2 and some stores and the most I've ever seen it is about 4 USD
My favorite quote about how all the "nice" things we have today are really garbage "I knew the future would bring wonders, but I did not think it would make them ordinary" is from the Netflix Dracula (first two episodes were great, but Mophat Mophated the ending:P) Historically speaking, even some of the poorest of us today live better than other periods of history. We have so much at our fingertips, and we expect to be able to get anything we want any day of the week. That is not normal. I would rather have one garment that lasts years and years than all the latest trends, or an amazing bit of kitchen kit that lasts, but I have to learn how to do more to use it. Consumerism is killing us 💜
Actually that first item might be great for traveling and limited space. Get the messy part of dough making done in the bag then finish on a small cutting board/surface without the mess.
About the pizza peel. I think what Ebbers said about the Knock off is actually the opposite. The online popular version was most likely a dropped shipped version of that same product, probably even from Temu as well. While I love this format, I think there needs to be more of a discussion about the moral ambiguity and sustainability issues of Temu.
I have one of the original ones. I bought it about 15 years ago and it was hand made out of hickory wood and bakery linen in the US. It is still as good as the day I bought it. I believe he called it the super peel. Sadly he no longer makes them.😢
Also, at less than 1.50 I really wonder how food safe that bag is. Because they can't have used any quality silicone on it. That needs to be part of the discussion, too.
I work in a pizza restaurant and have used a pizza peel for years. I have no trouble using the peel but I've seen so many people struggle to learn that skill and I know that gadget would be a life saver for them..
Y'all said you were going to make a statement on Temu at the end of the video. I know you made some comments throughout but this ultimately feels like it's promoting it in the end.
I refuse to buy from temu, due to it's business practices. However, i purchased the hand peeler several years ago from a local kitchen store, and I love it. It it's so much easier on my hands, especially when peeling anything in bulk. That said, i think the simpler cooking is, the better you will do. Fancy tools don't improve most of the time, plus you have to store them till the rare times you need them.
After watching I installed temu. Most things are indeed crap, but once you know what to expect from quality, picking up useful things is possible. Electronic components like resistors,LEDs etc. are great. Neodymium magnet was what I expected and cheap. Plastic bottles and any piece of plastic can be gotten for cheap. Stepping motors were usable. And I bought a dough kneeding bag, I personally like it 😁
For the peeler, I was so happy Mike mentioned it being good for people with mobility issues in their hands. I have a chronic pain condition, have my whole life and peeling vegetables which I have to do quite often with the foods I enjoy is so painful, especially in colder weather. When Ebbers said it's for a problem that doesn't exist I immediately thought of people like me and Mike bringing that up made me smile. a lot of gadgets out there, cooking or otherwise people don't think have a real purpose or they are for people that are lazy or they are pointless because things already exist but a lot of them make life easier for the chronically ill. Long story short, I'm ordering the peeler XD
There is a big problem with Temu's invasive data collection. I really think you guys should be preface your videos talking about the controversies around the company.
I must admit I’m disappointed that Sorted have repeated this concept. I love them in general but to me this completely undermines the great work they’ve been doing on food waste. How can you effectively convey that message whilst actively promoting a website that aggressively markets over-consumption and material waste?😮y The comments about ethics feel shallow - if you are uneasy about their business model, just stop buying more cr*p from them!! You have many great concepts on the channel…. You don’t need this. Please cease and desist!
What is the difference to the western countries and what can the CCP do with your datas? They have no influence on the politic in your country other than your own goverment and companies realy know everything about you.
First off: Brilliant and funny vid (as always) :D The daikon after the condom/ chef's hat/ dough kneader bag was perfect timing! One of my issues with Temu is also that their products may contain chemicals I don't want near my food. The EU has some pretty strict rules regarding chemicals in consumer products, these however don't apply to online retailers outside of the EU.
Temu is well known for being the target of some fantastic fabricated theories to get people to stop using the direct from factory service so that your businesses can continue to make money off paying the factories even less with tighter deadlines and selling the exact same things to you at the prices you're used to.
If you've just washed your hands then those gloves that have been sitting around collecting germs from the air and other people's incidental contact can't be expected to be cleaner. Plus you're putting them on with presumably not-just-washed hands. Either a well-enforced washing or glove protocol will be pretty equivalent in terms of food safety.
@@blairhoughton7918 In addition to this, it's often very difficult to tell when the gloves themselves get dirty, especially with anything that isn't particularly solid. Gloves can get covered in oils, various liquids, or tiny bits of debris and you'd rarely ever notice, which then gets transferred to food. Dirty surfaces within a kitchen can be touched with gloves on without you being able to tell those surfaces were dirty. Compare that to bare hands, where if anything gets on them at all, you notice pretty readily, and can wash them quickly if necessary.
Gotta say, that dough bag could be handy for people with 1) not a lot of space in the kitchen, because using flour on a small counter basically guarantees it'll be on the floor and on the wall, so the bag reduces mess, or 2) sensory issues. For someone who enjoys baking regularly and has all the resources (space, skill etc) for it, it's probably not an improvement, but I could see it being useful in some cases.
Most TEMU items can be found elsewhere for more, unfortunately the products sold for more are usually identical to the TEMU products. I personally don't use TEMU because if they aren't making their money from the products they're selling, and they're not, that means they're making their money from my information. Personally I think my information is more valuable than some cheaply made products.
They truly are making money of the products. It might be unbelievable, but the prices can go lower and the prices you've been paying all this time have always been people from your own country making enormous profits off cheap chinese factories.
12:30 I Pick and prep my own leaves so I think rolling them is easy. I saw the price of grape leaves salted at the market... I have three grape varieties all of which can be used for Grape leaves but the Wine grapes are a little stringy if they're too big. Thanks for reminding me, I gotta get more blood and feather meal! Nitrogen will give me extra big leaves.
The one very thing that scares me about buying food kitchen items on those type of cheap platforms is the quality of the constructing materials. Chances are that these are not even suitable for food contact.
Deeply unsafe to buy things from China that contact food or that ARE food. See arsenic in vegetables, melamine in dog food, melamine in baby formula, lead and cadmium in toys.... There's a reason why Chinese Nationals try to buy baby formula in Hong Kong, Australia, etc rather than relying on local Chinese products
Yeah reasonably high chance of this. Even if the materials are, there is a high chance of contamination with oils etc during manufacturing. No testing, CE ( not china engineering) or British standard / kite mark etc and no accountability with temu. Amazon's not much better in this regard though.
yes, because all the other products made in China that you find on your local supermarkets, Amazon and online stores and local stores, are completely different...
I'd probably check that your account still has money in it. The few people I know who tried temu all had money taken out their accounts (fortunately covered by the bank). I also hate that my comment boosts engagement on this.
I've been using my palm peeler for years. It is fantastic! I use it to shave parmesan cheese, peel veggies, slice onions really thin, and make veggie ribbons.
The problem with Temu's prices is that they are basically heavily subsidising the products to kill the competition. They are selling at a huge loss, that bag costs $1, but the manufacturer certainly gets more.
Nah, that's just how much stuff like that costs in Asia. It's only a silicone bag. Temu are probably taking a hit on the shipping or at least not making any profit.
@@inh415 Temu is losing the equivalent of about 500 milion dollars per year due to aggressive pricing. It's actually nothing new. Shein, Temu's Chinese version, has done the same. Aliexpress has done the same. Amazon in the USA has done the same. It's nothing new. But after they get enough market share prices will get normal again.
@@inh415I'm sure the shipping cost is so low because to the shipper it's a bulk container, and the 2 week shipping time allows for efficient bulking, lowest cost cargo-flight scheduling, simpler customs processing, etc. Most people likely put several items into an order making it that much less overhead. There's no warehousing in the US* and they seem to have a great relationship with USPS. * - well, there wasn't until this month. Now some products can be shipped faster, but they're clearly 50-100% more expensive than is usual for Temu. The goods sold have to pay warehouse rent to cover the unsold goods, and each item gets more individual attention.
@@blairhoughton7918 No, they don't have "a good relationship with USPS" - they just abuse preferential rates for developing countries and avoid import tax.
we used to use a slightly more robust version of the palm peeler when i worked in a cafe, there was definitely mixed reviews in the kitchen but i did find it to put a lot less stress on my hands when we were working at volume
Loved this one. Agree with Ben on so much. The price points being so low means these things are produced en masse and thus is creating a ton of waste for what won't sell. They are not worth the cheap cost in the sense that there are better products that do the same things but aren't as ethically questionable.
It not better took because I have 2 types of the older peelers. nether one does the job perfect for every situation. If this style does the job better then the other 2 for me in most cases. Then it's a better peeler.
If something can cost $8 and be shown to not have hidden moral costs that's great, but it sure feels like mainstream retailers are just buying the same $1.34 items and selling them for $8...
That's exactly what they do
Just don't buy plastic C E crap
Nah there's definitely first worlder "tax" added, because 1,5£ for a peeler or anything similar is a pretty normal store price (like physical store) in the second world
That's definitely a major problem... Knowing how/where the products and food we buy are sourced from is sometimes an impossible task!
I was gonna say the same! If I may add, they've been doing it for the past 30-40 years, actually.
I don't think I've felt so much genuine joy in a while as when they scooped the ketchup up that made my heart happy.
I swear that was the closest I've seen to real magic!
i use the silicone kneading bag mostly as a replacement for plastic bags (shaking food with breading like cornstarch or flour) and ziploc bags (for marinating)
Great idea! I hate wasting plastic bags.
I was thinking keeping something like a soup or stew in a bowl while you transport it to a pot luck or something. Sort of put the bag in a bowl, then pour the soup/stew in it and then sealing it. If it only had the fastener like the Stasher bags do.
Now that does seem to make sense.
Now I just need to be able to trust it actually is food safe.
@@MumrikDK That is my concern with everything Temu and food contact. A microplane you get there for pennies on the dollar is made from stainless steel - nothing they can mess up. A plastic item? I wouldn't buy that if it was made around the corner of my house since I try to avoid plastic in general, but I would be double suspicious with Temu products although in reality that is probably unfounded because the expensive product in your local store has a very good chance to come from the same manufacturer in China...
Asking if the condom bag was a more hygienic way to handle dough, after Ebbers put it on his head was very funny
If either head was in it, just stick it in the dishwasher
4:22 Thank you Ben!! Where I work, wearing gloves for pretty much everything is part of corporate's standards, but I'm always having to ask cooks to change their gloves multiple times, especially when plating, because their gloves are dirty but they don't notice. Give me *actually* clean hands over the false sense of security of gloves any day!
It's true. When you wear gloves, it's harder to tell when the gloves are dirty because you can't feel it on your hands. So many things, especially in a kitchen, can make your hands dirty but aren't readily visible (like pretty much every cooking oil or related product.)
When am doing pre work I change gloves between every task. You have to change them every time you clean you work area for then next job.
Then people didn't wash their hands enough either. The only difference is people bring dirt from other rooms in on their hands and only transfer kitchen stuff on gloves. So gloves are that little bit better for pure safety.
@@blairhoughton7918 When you don't do anything in a kitchen and only look at it on paper, sure. But when you see how real people behave, it doesn't actually work out that way.
I agree with Ben too. Seen too many cooks (even on TV cooking shows) wearing gloves and touching hair, etc. I only wear gloves when handling raw meat.
Price is mentioned "we'll talk about that later", quality is mentioned "we'll talk about that later", i know it likely would of been a hot topic, but would of been nice to see that discussion in the video after it was mentioned that it would be discussed later
It's not a hot topic, temu uses cheap low quality, mass produced products to provide customers a seemingly "catchless" cheap shopping experience.
Sorted are SUPPORTING TEMU. Every time they recommend a product they say TEMU and every time one doesn't work they blame the INDIVIDUAL product and not the platform that is EXPLOITIVE. Sorted need to do better, as you said they hinted at it but clearly cut it or didn't bother, part of sorted's brand is it's progressive stance on the food industry yet this seems like chasing trends and skipping important safety over youtube engagement.
----Here is a statement from the EU.---
Commenting in a statement, Monique Goyens, director general at BEUC, accused the marketplace of being “rife with manipulative techniques” designed to push consumers to spend more, and claimed insufficient information about traders “frequently leav[es] consumers in the dark about who they are purchasing products from.”
“This lack of traceability prevents consumers from taking an informed decision or to know if a product complies with EU safety rules,” she added.
The consumer protection groups are also raising concerns about minor safety, pointing out the extreme price discounting and gamification features baked into Temu’s platform are likely to be attractive to children.
“Temu does not guarantee its users a safe, predictable, and trustworthy online environment as the law requires,” they argue in the complaint. “Among other things, we have strong concerns that consumers are falling prey to manipulative techniques, that Temu fails to ensure the traceability of the traders operating on its platform, or that its overall functioning remains opaque, all of which breach the Digital Services Act.”
“Ultimately, the high number of dangerous products sold on Temu by untraceable traders, through manipulative practices and opaque recommender systems, are ingredients of a toxic cocktail likely to impair minors’ privacy, safety, and security,” the groups also warn.
The coordinated complaints follow some individual actions by consumer groups concerned about the safety and legality of products for sale on Temu’s marketplace.
For example, last fall, Italian consumer group Altroconsumo ran a test of cosmetics purchased on the platform and found the vast majority failed to list (or fully list) ingredients.
To be fair, they did talk about the prices later...
@@aknee3042 I agree it was mentioned briefly however it was more an offhand comment, compared to usual format they do.
The whole thing for Temu is literally "look at all these products at unethically low prices" and it was quite clearly scripted to be something of a main topic to bring up instead of the offhand comment shown on the video, just feels missing from the video.
Yep, felt a bit cheap. Don't think it would have been difficult to call it a disgusting and unethical business and why that is, I don't think that's even controversial. Sweatshops, unreasonably cheap trash etc
@@noahgray5229 problem is all the junk on Amazon is just the same stuff resold at even higher prices. So paying more isn't ethically better. Sigh.
It makes sense that you're doing Temu videos after buying that hella expensive fridge.
they've done one now they have to do the other
And that wheel of Grana Padano
Budget is low😅
Lololol
but still a basic challenges between normal and chef would have created the same nummbers. without the will to change and the people thinking about it
How to romance Ebbers:
-Be doughy
-Go both ways
-Don't be cheap
I've got a chance! 😅
You also have to love risotto and wine.
Two words:
Fish pie.
let's not forget the quiche
Just be Ebbers, since he's clearly in love with himself already.
@@DrnaynayI've only got a fish pie if it's that time of the month 😂
The dolma roller is made for traditional Egyptian, Lebanese, or middle eastern vine leaf rolls “mahshi waraa enab” which are quite small and usually made in very large quantities. I’d use the roller to make smaller rolls in bulk.
1:49 I struggle with eczema on my palms and whenever I have a flare-up, kneading dough is genuinely one of the things I miss the most (just as an option). It really is therapeutic, nothing better than having a mixture that doesn't look like it's ever gonna come together and turning it into a supple workable dough within minutes of work.
Oof, on the palms is rough! But the bag wouldn't help with that, right?
@@shllybkwrm maybe if it's peeling(flaky?) and they don't want skin in their dough?
@@kristin123a They could wear gloves. Although, I suppose that the bag would be more comfortable than gloves, and also would be reusable. But you'd still probably need gloves to remove it from the bag too. As ebbers showed, you can't get that folding motion in the bag anyway, so you still can't kneed it entirely in the bag.
@@xBrokenMirror2010x just because Ben looked at it skeptically for a couple of minutes and didn't figure it out, doesn't mean it can't be done.
@@shllybkwrm the bag is reusable and gloves are not. But more than that, gloves are on the hand and restrict airflow and hold moisture. Gloves might make the eczema worse.
Handling the bag is much less stressful on the hands than wearing gloves.
Barry’s laugh at 16:48 when Ben put the ketchup down was so funny and cute 😆
A contagious excited giggle, love it :D
Literally so obsessed with him he makes me laugh so much just being himself!
Yes! It made my day 😂
Absolutely! 🤣 I've never seen him so excited!
I had to watch that part several times. His giggle is contagious.
Reminder for Ben, the palm peeler was probably first developed for people with issues using their hands. Holding a normal peeler handle may not be possible for some people, or they may need to apply more pressure than their hands and arms can do, to use it. Where this moves everything right into the hand and lets them use their hand in a more natural position and manner that is easier.
I use one or my arthritic hands only last two minutes of peeling before I have to give up and use skin-on veg. It has a bit of a learning curve for smaller round things, though. Took me ages and lots of wonky potatoes.
Even without arthritis, my first job after culinary school frequently involved peeling hundreds of pounds of vegetables in a day, for stock and house made fries. After several hours of peeling carrots of spuds my hands cramped pretty hard even with an "ergonomic" peeler. If there had been a palm peeler the, or if I'd known about it back then if it already existed, I'd have been all over it.
Doing some searching there are better quality ones out there from other sources.
Also in fairness to Ben, they did kinda get around to that later and he was like "oh yeah" so he probably just spaced here. I may have jumped the gun a little but maybe the reminder will be helpful to others here!
The way you can literally see the moment that Barry nopes out of the demo at 7:10 is hilarious... They complain about the Bennundos but the poor man specifically asked for a potato to peel and was not given one, even though there was a potato on hand...
the key might be to find who temu stole the design/item from in the first place and order from the original creator...
The original creator most likely is using the same factory. They handed them the design.
Temu don't make anything. It's just an Asian / Chinese market place
What they said. Temu is a better-organized Alibaba. It operates as a reseller site, so it's even less conflicted than Amazon, which has resellers but also resells for itself and makes its own brands.
And how do you propose doing that?
@@inh415 as well they tell the factories what to sell there products, so they can force the factories to sell at a loss to gain consumers. so it's not just a marketplace but a controlled one
That pizza slide thing will be a GAME CHANGER with gluten free doughs. Without gluten the doughs are extremely crumbly and just getting a dough to a baking sheet always results in holes that then can’t really be patched.
Yes! People need to be educated about the hidden cost of cheap goods! From environmental, cultural, ethical and moral standpoints. So proud of you guys to highlight that! ❤
They should be pointing that out with the expensive goods that come from the same factory for more than triple the price. Whatever Temu sells, is whatever the original maker is having the factory make. Except that Temu sells it for far less than the original would have everyone else pay. There is no additional cost
@@roboteen There's actually reduced costs because temu's long shipping times are due to manufacture to demand, which means no warehouses, which add cost and price to things.
I really do appreciate Ben's reaction to it being too cheap and worrying about why it's so cheap
Then why is the channel supporting the company by buying their products.
@@Potatoooo--18 Why do reviewers buy bad things to write a review? To discourage people from buying the thing, Karen. It's net positive.
@@Potatoooo--18 such a Karen thing to say
That's just how much stuff costs in Asia without western middle man companies and certification.
@@inh415 and, y'know, morals and ethics regarding workers, handling, nature, waste, etc. etc. etc.
Thank you Ben. Hidden costs are everywhere, but I feel more so in products you know are too cheap to believe.
"Too cheap to believe" is such a great way to put it
@@SortedFoodTemu/PDD are incredibly sketchy. Subsidizing shipping etc by more than price of items, using malware techniques against other apps on your phone, forced labor, forcing factories to price under cost to manufacture, dangerous materials in things used for food....
One of the most frustrating things is when you're in a small country that can be easily missed when things are invented. I'm in NZ and despite being a first world country we're so often forgotten or seen as not worth the effort when companies make things. My mum has bad arthritis and that peeler sounds like it could be really good for her but when I try and search for one in NZ the only places suggested to me are temu or obvious dropshippers who would then take the additional money as profit and just order it from temu anyway.
I won't order from temu due to the moral issues but it also really cuts down on the number of things you can buy when places just simply forget your country.
Lmao you people are hilarious, you'll pay for a ridiculous mark up and think it means things are more ethical when there's just as much, if not more human exploitation occurring.
@@lux0rd01 NZ is such a small market you often get left off maps! Definitely a problem for any small and remote country
Ben talking about Temu's prices affecting the environment, inequality factors, and community. THIS MAN GETS IT
not really it’s incredibly snobby and ignores 99% of companies who do worse
The amount of useless crap that people throw away has to be astronomical
Honestly that would be a wonderful reality to live in but many more expensive companies aren't any better than Temu probably, their profit margins are just way higher. Or Temu is indeed even shittier and has the same profit margins but just insanely horrible working conditions etc. But I kinda doubt that more horrible is really that possible
I've used a peeler like that for the past 15ish years (it came with a vegetable brush too) and I love it.
Mine were from bed bath and beyond and are still in weekly use!
2:41 A fair point, Ebbers, but...Bowls exist and already solve that problem. Literally every time I've made egg pasta, I just work in a mixing bowl. This is just a mixing bowl with extra steps.
It’s the smiles of each crew members is what makes me keep wanting to watch the videos more and more! I respect all the efforts and the amount of dedication sorted family puts in. Kudos! 😊
16:42 Barry made me laugh so hard at the pick up and put down 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ebbers putting the giant condom on his head has me in tears of laughing ! I cant wait to see the other gadgets they test.
papa smurf
My mom got me the hand peeler. At first I sneered at it, but once I tried it I realized it really is very ergonomic and I love it
I make pizza dough quite often and usually do the initial mixing in a bowl with a spoon. No messy hands at all. 😅
Just use the spoon until everything is combined into a rough to semi-smooth dough and then do the rest by hand later.
(I tend to make the dough 8-24h before I actually need it… the initial mixing takes less than 5 mins and as long as you let the dough rest after kneading it the whole process is quite foolproof.)
That is how I also do it. Pretty similar to how I start a sourdough. Quick couple of minutes with the spoon and maybe use a single hand quickly. Let it sit for 15 minutes and do some stretch and folds, then another 15 minutes and another set of stretch and folds and then it is basically conpletely kneeded and just needs time. Really doesnt need to be a messy or cumbersome endeavour to produce some solid bread or pizza dough. Pasta/noodle dough on the other hand is a bit more demanding.
Barry's laugh at the ketchup will live rent free in my head all day !!!
I so appreciate the focus on the ethics behind the production! Absolutely people are being exploited, and the quality is so low it’ll break quickly and one might think, “Oh I’ll just buy a couple because they’re so cheap.” And that mindset is so very damaging- It continues to enabled companies to use exploitive practices. Good on you fellas for holding to the idea that a good product won’t be dirt cheap.
it's only dirt cheap in your country and salary/earning condition. I understand that you cannot see what it means to have a well-built supply chain and industrialised mass production and how it helps to reduce cost, as it may be very far from your life in the country you are from. But do not just sum it all to "people being exploited" when you have no real evidence.
@ELoveHo economy of scale is a factor when discussing cutting costs on production of an item. But to say that you can get an item down to £2 to £3, when an equivalent item would be two or even three times the price, and there's no exploitation going on? That's a hard sell, especially when there have been reports and news stories for the last several decades discussing known and confirmed use of sweatshops, child labor, and yes, even slave labor in production of goods, especially in China. You've got the Uyghur Muslims which are experiencing cultural genocide in China right now and there have been multiple reports and news stories about them being used as essentially slave labor. Could you say that these products used those unethical practices? Not without doing a full review of their production process, but what this commenter and what the sortedfood people are saying is you should be asking "Why is this item so cheap when we wouldn't expect it to be? What's the catch?" And even if there isn't exploitation going into the process, the other point that Ben was making in the video was by offering low prices for low quality items it encourages people to buy them because they're so affordable, realize how bad they are in practice and then throw them out leading to unnecessary trash and wastage. So even if there's no exploitation, setting the price point so low just to get people to buy it but also having the quality be so low that nobody keeps it, is a problem in and of itself.
The real question to ask here is not if there was anything shady going on in the production of these products, instead what you should be asking is are you making excuses for your own buying practices because you don't want to find out that the products you have purchased have had unethical practices used to produce them. I'm not making a judgment call on your buying practices, I've bought crap from China all my life because it is often cheaper and I'm not rich so I got to make do with what I can get to be able to do the jobs in my life that I need to do. But if you can get your own life beyond the point of survival, where you have the means to take a more critical view of the options in front of you, then you have two options. Do you take a closer look at your own buying practices and try to moderate them so as to make sure that the products you're buying may be more expensive but also have come from companies that have been using ethical practices, or do you not look too close because you're saving money and you don't want to know the truth? Both viewpoints have merit, I am not going to judge somebody whichever way they go, but it is a question that's worth asking if you are wanting to get into this kind of discussion.
@@ELoveHobruh, they're selling products linked to slavery in the Uyghur autonomous region. Temu has admitted to not prohibiting products from the Uyghur region and that it does not conduct audits and doesn't report compliance to US forced labour law that blocks imports from the region because of slavery. its parent company financially ruins staff who quit & find work elsewhere. An ethical supply chain is not a concern for these guys, and is part of why shit is so cheap.
I've used that type of peeler for over 10 years. I have arthritis in my hands and it works like a charm.
I would love the kneading bag! The idea that I could knead dough and not have to deal with the discomfort of sticky dough between my fingers 🙌
Re transferable peel: I've tried three different models of those. An expensive all metal ($75) a midrange plastic and metal ($30) and a cheap one, which I think is the same one they used here ($15). It takes a little practice but once you get the hang of it these things are surprisingly useful. The most important features to look for is how thin the leading edge is and how smooth the handle slides up the board. The expensive all-metal model worked the best with a very slender rolling metal bar at the front that picked up practically everything (we didn't try fresh eggs) smoothly, easily, and kept the designs whole when placed on another surface. The midrange was only slightly less as efficient using a metal rod at the working end instead of a roller so that was the best to recommend. The cheapest version, the one they had here, isn't nearly as good because the front end is too thick and there is no roller or bar which causes more rubbing friction that is awkward.
A better reveal would be to compare the temu product vs the more expensive ones.
16:41 Barry and the tomato ketchup had me in tears 🤣🤣🤣
That little giggle from Barry after the ketchup was put down, worth every penny. Never seen him so giddy before, that was grand.
I've had one of those palm peelers for almost 20 years. I loved it then and now that arthritis is creeping into my fingers & wrists - I love it even more. Potatoes aren't that difficult - you just need to practice. Get the feel for using it by doing a bunch of carrots, then move on to the potatoes when using it is second nature.
For the dough bag thing - you could use it for the sticky part and then turn the bag inside out, and use it like a glove for the kneading - flipping it back, inside right with the doughball for rising.
I was thinking there's nothing new about the palm peeler and I too have had one for 20 years.
I wouldn't let that bag anywhere near my food unless I knew it's actually food safe.
I'm assuming the first "gadget" segment would have been twice as girthy if they didn't circumcise the enormous number of condom jokes that had to have been made.
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I'm not sure whether "knock up a dough" was intentional or not.
At least they got a bun in the oven at the end ;)
Perverted joke
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I love the idea that when planning this video someone in the office decided that this obviously means that it’s pizza day in the office and made three!
2:00 "takes the romance out of the artisanal process of making bread" is a great line from Ebbers!!
the thing about the sliding pizza peel, a big part of its virality also comes with a now deleted video of the demo/prototype of the product being a long piece of parchment and a thin piece of strong cardboard... when maneuvered in the same way (the cardboard for the base, parchment for the nonstick), it is basically an at-home version of what is (or used to originally be) an expensive gadget
French bakeries use a similar mechanism, but the structure is steel and the fabric is cloth and the thing is huge, like 3 m long and 1 m wide. It looks like a hospital gurney. They array a couple of dozen loaves on it, push the table into the oven, then zip it back.
@@blairhoughton7918 i got to check that out!!! thanks for the cool tidbit!
While I fully agree with comments saying that Temu uses sweatshops that unferpay their workers. I want to point out that almost all consumer products you buy have that in their production chains. The reason that Temu is so cheap is that they are willing to lose money while they outprice the competition. Then they are free to increase prices again and make uo for their loss, or just make off with the investment money. I'd argue this is even less ethical than "only" grossly underpaying workers.
Spelled wonderfully, 3/4 of the time that i do a reverse google search on a product on amazon or some other site, they bring straight to temu or aliexpress
Do they underpay? They pay to what the market can bare. The story of a shoe manufacture going into a village and paying 5 times as much as any other company. Ruined the economy because it made the price of basic shy rocket because there are people who could pay more and the other factories worker became poorer.
Look at what happen with raising the minimum to quickly in the US. They are making workers do more and hiring less workers. They are automating their business and only need 2 people to work the fast food places. at the same time you are paying twice as much for a burger combo. If I told you that 4 years ago you will be paying $14 to $16 for a fast food combo. You would think I was a nuts. This is what happens when you think you are doing something good in forcing business to play more the market value for labor. People on limited income now have 1/2 the value of their dollar.
We can't say they were underplayed because they need to live based on western values. Low cost manual labor mean more people in poorer counties can have a job that pays them a living wage.
The value of a homes that are more expensive to build with AC insulation things that are not need to build a house in many other counties. You can not place a 1 to 1 value on products in other counties.
As for the Chinese they work because they want something more then the basics. They are given a place to live and allotment of rice for the month, They have everything that is needed to live. Yet they choose to work. If you want a job the local government checks your skills or wants. The office tell you to go to an address and there will be a job for you. Even if they have more people then they need.
I think we should see if Ebbers has any apple products
Their products are so cheap and they underpay their workers because Temu's real business is being a data harvesting site. Do not buy from Temu if you value your digital privacy. They're worse than even the most egregious social media sites.
This is called "dumping" and is only one of the many dark marketing patterns they use to drive out competition.
I've had a palm peeler like gadget 2 for years and it totally works for most situations. You do have to be a little more careful, as shown with the potato, but overall quite good.
I think I paid maybe $4 for mine like 10 years ago. Still sharp, easy to clean.
From what I recall, Chef'n is the brand that made the first Palm Peeler, in that square shape, over 20+ years ago.
Chef'n may have changed the shape of it through the years, and I will still purchase a Chef'n product rather than a copycat with questionable "stuff" that goes into the whole process.
The first “gadget” for kneading dough actually appeals to me 😅 the sensory nightmare of having sticky dough on my hands and the clean up afterwards are reasons I don’t enjoy making anything which requires hand-kneading despite generally loving baking. Thanks for always considering how these tools could help disabled people ❤
Ben: "if it goes up and down then..."
Baz's soul starts to leave his body.
Love my daily Sorted Food lunch dates. Make lunch, pick a Sorted video, sit down and enjoy. That’s been my lunch routine for months now lol.
Problem for me is that none of these items are by Temu - they are all knockoffs of actual nice things
Which have a high possibility of being produced by literal slave labour.
As if you only ever buy the original name brand product of everything
You have it backwards. They are what happens when the actual manufacturer sells direct. When you grow up and actually want to do something with your life you’ll realize that everything is mass produced in China and sold in your country for much much much more. The only possible complaint here is that the manufacturers are stealing ideas, but typically none of these companies will make anything for you with any sort of contract to not do this, unless you’re a massive corporation.
Temu is a marketplace
Yeah let me shell out hundreds of dollars for something I can get cheaper 🙄
Ben being a parent with Barry during the pizza slider. "W-w-w-wait." "wait." Barry is like an excited child 😂
13:37 Barry turning into Chewbacca wasn't on my bingo card for this year 😂
It actually starts on 13:31
that leaf roller thing works the same way automatic cigarette rollers work. I used to roll a lot of my own smokes, and used to think this would speed the process up. It doesn't. After years of rolling my own, I settled on just a bamboo mat. It sped up the process, was light weight, easy, consistent. Would definitely recommend it for any rolling task.
Ben would do well on "Whose Line is it Anyway?" The props improv...
Did Mike just say ‘Grate!’ ??? My favourite part of gadget reviews is the generous dose of puns 😂
16:45 - The joy from Barry is adorable lol
How about a twist on the unplanned pick the ingredients challenge by adding a can to each round? Whoever goes first gets to pick from either a known ingredient or a canned (or hidden one. Say written on a card). Give them time based on what they picked, say 5 minutes per known ingredient and 10 per hidden ingredient.
Ann Reardon used another vine leaf roller and it did work!
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A How To Cook That/Sorted collaboration would be epic!
I *knew* I’d seen somebody using this roller!!
I actually pogged when Ben picked up the ketchup. Why was that so cool
Because it's freaking cool. The science of that fabric is amazing. When I use mine for bread it doesn't even leave residual flour on the peel. And you don't have to flour it to keep the dough from sticking. It takes a little practice (it doesn't need a jerk like a regular peel, even at the end Ben kept letting the flap move) but it's totally brilliant when you get used to the motion. Theirs looked smallish; you really don't want anything hanging off it.
One of my concerns with that "Palm Peeler" is the blade doesn't look too secure in the "device". If it's that cheap it's not using even slightly "premium" materials... so sharp blade in a substandard mounting means a sharp blade actually in your hand if, and when, that blade "pops" out of the palm handle. I was taught never to grab a knife by the blade.
Well, it's about the same as my peeler in my kitchen drawer. Some times, I have had to put the blade back on. Having it in the palm of the hand sounds a bit iffy, but it's also covered by the palm plastic and when it pops off it would be blade down into a veggie.
The original one was better. This is a cheap Chinese knockoff.
While you might be right that it may not be secure being so cheap, keep in mind peelers often are more loose fitting by design, to allow it to conform to the shape of uneven produce.
As a Lebanese , vine leaves is a main mezze in the Lebanese cuisine and usually they’re supposed to be rolled very tightly because if its loose it’ll end up ruined while cooking so personally I think this gadget don’t usually work, so best is rolling them by the hand for a tighter roll ☺️ loved the video guys 🤍✨
Having bad arthritis in my hands I've had one of those peelers for many years and I love it! (but not from Temu)
My family has been using the finger peeler since 2012 when we found one at a farmers market. My family LOVES THEM. I personally prefer a bigger one because the small one tends to dull quicker after a year or so.
Barry‘s „satisfied cat“ sounds at 13:32 got me rolling😂😂
I’ve used the dough bag before! We used it when camping to make pizza dough because you can store the bag up your jumper to prove the dough. Honestly it worked really well!
Another mark in the bags favour, it allowed one of the camping group who had physical disabilities to get involved with kneading, which would have been harder for her without the bag.
It was a nightmare to clean though
I appreciate the commentary on how Temu is problematic - particularly the pricing creating the temptation to buy and bin. I think you've well established that and can probably now stop supporting Temu with these gadget videos unless they miraculously change their business model. Additionally, having seen products from Temu compared to the descriptions they present online, I have concerns about the reliability of their claims. (Is that silicone bag truly food safe?)
That said, I was curious about the pizza peel demonstration and would have liked to see how it performed taking a cooked pizza from the oven. I don't think giving the Temu product more screen time is necessary, though. I do hope the original version of this is at least large enough to accommodate an actual "real-life" sized pizza.
Yet here you are watching the video, causing video creators to continue to make these videos because they get views.
We've had that version of the vegetable peeler in the US for over a decade and cost less than $2 and some stores and the most I've ever seen it is about 4 USD
My favorite quote about how all the "nice" things we have today are really garbage "I knew the future would bring wonders, but I did not think it would make them ordinary" is from the Netflix Dracula (first two episodes were great, but Mophat Mophated the ending:P)
Historically speaking, even some of the poorest of us today live better than other periods of history. We have so much at our fingertips, and we expect to be able to get anything we want any day of the week. That is not normal. I would rather have one garment that lasts years and years than all the latest trends, or an amazing bit of kitchen kit that lasts, but I have to learn how to do more to use it. Consumerism is killing us 💜
Actually that first item might be great for traveling and limited space. Get the messy part of dough making done in the bag then finish on a small cutting board/surface without the mess.
About the pizza peel. I think what Ebbers said about the Knock off is actually the opposite. The online popular version was most likely a dropped shipped version of that same product, probably even from Temu as well.
While I love this format, I think there needs to be more of a discussion about the moral ambiguity and sustainability issues of Temu.
I have one of the original ones. I bought it about 15 years ago and it was hand made out of hickory wood and bakery linen in the US.
It is still as good as the day I bought it. I believe he called it the super peel. Sadly he no longer makes them.😢
Also, at less than 1.50 I really wonder how food safe that bag is. Because they can't have used any quality silicone on it. That needs to be part of the discussion, too.
I work in a pizza restaurant and have used a pizza peel for years. I have no trouble using the peel but I've seen so many people struggle to learn that skill and I know that gadget would be a life saver for them..
Y'all said you were going to make a statement on Temu at the end of the video. I know you made some comments throughout but this ultimately feels like it's promoting it in the end.
I refuse to buy from temu, due to it's business practices. However, i purchased the hand peeler several years ago from a local kitchen store, and I love it. It it's so much easier on my hands, especially when peeling anything in bulk. That said, i think the simpler cooking is, the better you will do. Fancy tools don't improve most of the time, plus you have to store them till the rare times you need them.
We bought one of those hand peelers like 10 years ago at a kitchenware shop, they’re not exactly new 😅
After watching I installed temu. Most things are indeed crap, but once you know what to expect from quality, picking up useful things is possible. Electronic components like resistors,LEDs etc. are great. Neodymium magnet was what I expected and cheap. Plastic bottles and any piece of plastic can be gotten for cheap. Stepping motors were usable. And I bought a dough kneeding bag, I personally like it 😁
Once again best way to finish a day of work! :D
For the peeler, I was so happy Mike mentioned it being good for people with mobility issues in their hands. I have a chronic pain condition, have my whole life and peeling vegetables which I have to do quite often with the foods I enjoy is so painful, especially in colder weather. When Ebbers said it's for a problem that doesn't exist I immediately thought of people like me and Mike bringing that up made me smile. a lot of gadgets out there, cooking or otherwise people don't think have a real purpose or they are for people that are lazy or they are pointless because things already exist but a lot of them make life easier for the chronically ill. Long story short, I'm ordering the peeler XD
Order the original one from the company that actually designed it with people with mobility issues in mind, not the Chinese knockoff.
There is a big problem with Temu's invasive data collection. I really think you guys should be preface your videos talking about the controversies around the company.
That's only one of the many big problems with them.
I must admit I’m disappointed that Sorted have repeated this concept. I love them in general but to me this completely undermines the great work they’ve been doing on food waste.
How can you effectively convey that message whilst actively promoting a website that aggressively markets over-consumption and material waste?😮y
The comments about ethics feel shallow - if you are uneasy about their business model, just stop buying more cr*p from them!!
You have many great concepts on the channel…. You don’t need this. Please cease and desist!
What is the difference to the western countries and what can the CCP do with your datas? They have no influence on the politic in your country other than your own goverment and companies realy know everything about you.
There’s 200000 videos and articles about it. We know.
First off: Brilliant and funny vid (as always) :D The daikon after the condom/ chef's hat/ dough kneader bag was perfect timing!
One of my issues with Temu is also that their products may contain chemicals I don't want near my food. The EU has some pretty strict rules regarding chemicals in consumer products, these however don't apply to online retailers outside of the EU.
The same strict rules apply to the imports as well.
Are they regulated you ask? Some. A bit.
But the same applies to those made in EU.
Temu is well known for stealing user data, including credit card information, and is not an ethical source of any products.
Temu is well known for being the target of some fantastic fabricated theories to get people to stop using the direct from factory service so that your businesses can continue to make money off paying the factories even less with tighter deadlines and selling the exact same things to you at the prices you're used to.
Oh, now that has peaked my curiosity. I'd like to hear more on Bens thoughts of "A clean hand in a restaurant is cleaner then putting gloves on"
If you've just washed your hands then those gloves that have been sitting around collecting germs from the air and other people's incidental contact can't be expected to be cleaner. Plus you're putting them on with presumably not-just-washed hands. Either a well-enforced washing or glove protocol will be pretty equivalent in terms of food safety.
@@blairhoughton7918 In addition to this, it's often very difficult to tell when the gloves themselves get dirty, especially with anything that isn't particularly solid. Gloves can get covered in oils, various liquids, or tiny bits of debris and you'd rarely ever notice, which then gets transferred to food. Dirty surfaces within a kitchen can be touched with gloves on without you being able to tell those surfaces were dirty.
Compare that to bare hands, where if anything gets on them at all, you notice pretty readily, and can wash them quickly if necessary.
Don’t even review these products. This company is not worth even making people aware of, not even to rag on the poor quality.
Not to even mention the data stealing from users lol
Agreed! You're just giving then free advertisement.
Besides that, I love the format!
Exactly this
Did you actually listen to what they were saying lol??
@@heavylt3333If you're worried about that you wouldn't use like 90% of websites on the entire Internet
OXO made a similar peeler about 2 years ago that I got for $5US. I still have it and love it
Where do you think they took the design from? Nothing they do is original.
Mike out innuendoed Ben today😆😂😆Excellent video ✨
Well done to the bloke that said that these companies shouldn't be given airtime due to dodgy labour practices. It's got the boys talking.
New? I've had one of those palm peelers for a few years now. It's fantastic.
Gotta say, that dough bag could be handy for people with 1) not a lot of space in the kitchen, because using flour on a small counter basically guarantees it'll be on the floor and on the wall, so the bag reduces mess, or 2) sensory issues. For someone who enjoys baking regularly and has all the resources (space, skill etc) for it, it's probably not an improvement, but I could see it being useful in some cases.
In a small kitchen just use a bowl you already own.
@@YaaLFH For some types of dough I find it hard to use a bowl, doesn't allow much freedom of movement.
@@tastymedleys The bag doesn't allow much freedom of movement either.
@@YaaLFH I'd say more than a bowl, but I'm sure it depends on personal preference.
Most TEMU items can be found elsewhere for more, unfortunately the products sold for more are usually identical to the TEMU products. I personally don't use TEMU because if they aren't making their money from the products they're selling, and they're not, that means they're making their money from my information. Personally I think my information is more valuable than some cheaply made products.
They truly are making money of the products. It might be unbelievable, but the prices can go lower and the prices you've been paying all this time have always been people from your own country making enormous profits off cheap chinese factories.
12:30 I Pick and prep my own leaves so I think rolling them is easy.
I saw the price of grape leaves salted at the market... I have three grape varieties all of which can be used for Grape leaves but the Wine grapes are a little stringy if they're too big.
Thanks for reminding me, I gotta get more blood and feather meal! Nitrogen will give me extra big leaves.
00:08 Barry would have been an actual clown in another life with that laugh 😂
😂 could have been a great Goofy laugh too
9:20 I can see the peeler being good for people with mobility issues, or lacking grip strength
Heh. That "vine leaf roller" is just a bigass cigarette roller. :)
Just like Grandma used; to roll her own. 🌿
Bravo Ebbers for bringing up those hidden costs!
The one very thing that scares me about buying food kitchen items on those type of cheap platforms is the quality of the constructing materials. Chances are that these are not even suitable for food contact.
Deeply unsafe to buy things from China that contact food or that ARE food. See arsenic in vegetables, melamine in dog food, melamine in baby formula, lead and cadmium in toys.... There's a reason why Chinese Nationals try to buy baby formula in Hong Kong, Australia, etc rather than relying on local Chinese products
Yeah reasonably high chance of this. Even if the materials are, there is a high chance of contamination with oils etc during manufacturing. No testing, CE ( not china engineering) or British standard / kite mark etc and no accountability with temu. Amazon's not much better in this regard though.
@@inh415I agree. CE marking is wild as soon as you leave the EU (even inside of it).
So glad you had the peeler. One of my favorite kitchen gadgets! Had mine for about a decade now.
pls stop buying teemu products pls its soo bad for the seller and the environment
Not to mention the CCP
I second that. The world doesn't need more trash.
One person won't make a difference, the products have already been produced...
yes, because all the other products made in China that you find on your local supermarkets, Amazon and online stores and local stores, are completely different...
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I used to have the hand peeler and after losing it and switching to the standard hand held one, I can say it's so much easier to use and control
I'd probably check that your account still has money in it. The few people I know who tried temu all had money taken out their accounts (fortunately covered by the bank). I also hate that my comment boosts engagement on this.
18:31 best Barry face/noise 😂😂😂
There was no hesitation on Ben's part when he put that first gadget on his head.
Part of the Ebbrell Fetish Kitchen Wear Collection 👨🍳
I've been using my palm peeler for years. It is fantastic! I use it to shave parmesan cheese, peel veggies, slice onions really thin, and make veggie ribbons.
The problem with Temu's prices is that they are basically heavily subsidising the products to kill the competition. They are selling at a huge loss, that bag costs $1, but the manufacturer certainly gets more.
Nah, that's just how much stuff like that costs in Asia. It's only a silicone bag.
Temu are probably taking a hit on the shipping or at least not making any profit.
@@inh415 Temu is losing the equivalent of about 500 milion dollars per year due to aggressive pricing. It's actually nothing new. Shein, Temu's Chinese version, has done the same. Aliexpress has done the same. Amazon in the USA has done the same. It's nothing new. But after they get enough market share prices will get normal again.
@@inh415I'm sure the shipping cost is so low because to the shipper it's a bulk container, and the 2 week shipping time allows for efficient bulking, lowest cost cargo-flight scheduling, simpler customs processing, etc. Most people likely put several items into an order making it that much less overhead. There's no warehousing in the US* and they seem to have a great relationship with USPS.
* - well, there wasn't until this month. Now some products can be shipped faster, but they're clearly 50-100% more expensive than is usual for Temu. The goods sold have to pay warehouse rent to cover the unsold goods, and each item gets more individual attention.
@@blairhoughton7918 No, they don't have "a good relationship with USPS" - they just abuse preferential rates for developing countries and avoid import tax.
@@inh415 That's part of the issue though. What makes things just that cheap in Asia?
we used to use a slightly more robust version of the palm peeler when i worked in a cafe, there was definitely mixed reviews in the kitchen but i did find it to put a lot less stress on my hands when we were working at volume
Loved this one. Agree with Ben on so much. The price points being so low means these things are produced en masse and thus is creating a ton of waste for what won't sell. They are not worth the cheap cost in the sense that there are better products that do the same things but aren't as ethically questionable.
It not better took because I have 2 types of the older peelers. nether one does the job perfect for every situation. If this style does the job better then the other 2 for me in most cases. Then it's a better peeler.
Baz’s giggle at 16:49 was amazing