I sat through a 'leadership' session at work all day trying to figure out how to rescue my first, and so far disastrous season with Banbridge in the NI Prem. Got home, opened RUclips and saw Karma had presented me with a gift. Second game with The 5head stopped a run of 15 without a win, and took us off the bottom of the table. Absolute genius!
Can confirm this is a great tactic for lower leagues, won the vanarama north first season and now unbeaten after 14 games in vanarama national The only tweaks I made to the tactic was 'out of possession' permantly leave to trigger press 'more often' instead of 'much more often' And changed inverted wingers to regular wingers Thanks again
just taken over Scunthorpe and had no transfer budget or wages. Baked mistake and got 37 year old Ross McCormack and another poor 32 year old striker with some free’d up wage budget from letting my star player go because he was a right winger and i wasn’t going to use them in my formation. Not won a single game yet 5 games in and just lost 6-1 away at Bromley and they had 30 shots. So i’ve come to RUclips to hope i can be saved.
You have saved my season - I was in an atrocious run of form in a Youth Academy only save - tried this and whilst I didn't exactly set the world alight, I picked up 5 wins and a draw in 13 during the run in and stayed up (bear in mind morale was through the floor when I switched and I hadn't trained it). I also lost my captain and best CD by far half way through the run in and had to play my key BWM in defence. Love your work! Really liked the patterns of play - many of the games I lost were close where you could argue we had the better of the stats just poor finishing.
Ive recently started a journeyman save starting unemployed and I've ended up at Buxton. I was just keeping the team out of the relegation zone after the previous managers poor start and then i saw this tactic. I have used it in the last five games and we have won them all convincingly. Love the tactic mate its quality and both my strikers, the attacking midfielder and wingers are chipping in with goals 👍 I'm still getting my goals from set pieces aswell which before using your tactic was my only source of goals. Im hoping to really go for it next season using this tactic and hopefully get promotion or win the Fa trophy and move on to a bigger club. Youve earned yourself a sub here pal 👍 top man.
Worked really well for me in Vanamara League North, got promoted with Scarborough first season. 2nd season in Vanarama National started off incredibly well 1st on the table after 12 games and then stopped working entirely and i started shipping goals like crazy. Didn't even change anything in the team that's odd.
Never won the league first 4 years of Cymru Premier (a really ridiculous league where only TNS is a pro club) with Connah Quay. Put this tactic together in video, got the right players and good depth and won the league year 5! Awesome thanks!
Tested with Chester and it's a monster. 8 points clear at the top after 19 games, into 3rd round of cuo including beating Salford (3rd in L2 at the time) in 2nd round. Chester have a decent-ish squad too so I'm only just starting to bring in some very good players so it's not about to get easier for League 2! I think this is definitely the successor to the lower league diamond destroyers of the last couple of years, well played Stinger.
@@StingerNeilD So yeah 3 seasons in, 3 league titles. 3rd round of the cup every year and everything I thought I knew about the importance of having a DM this year has been shattered! Top work again Stinger.
I’ve took over cheshunt who are predicted to finish rock bottom of the national league south and used this tactic. 10 games in and I’m top of the league having won every game
Using this with Scarborough predicted to finish 14th sitting nicely in 2nd at the moment. What I like about this is the route one from goal keeper straight to forward who goes round keeper and slots it home. Never seen this before ever how’s it possible ? Fantastic.
@@StingerNeilD It does on course to promotion would you use this tactic in national league next season or have you got another top tactic to try. Keep up the good work
@@StingerNeilD Won the league by a good 9pts .Also best in everything stats wise and no red cards all season.Predicted to not to get relegated ,lets see how we do .
Loving this tactics mate i adjusted it for my Sheffield united save won a treble in my first season i put wbs on def droped cm role to dm with dlp on def and change the am to ss droped my defences line to low👍
So far so good 50-1 Start of season with Chesterfield in play off positions. Absolutely imperative you get first goal if the first goal goes in very strong.
I'm trying it with Coggeshall in Isthmian Premier. Not working yet, though it seems like I am the only one it doesn't work with. I guess I haven't got the players. No one can play AF without being offside 10 times per game and no one seems to know what a CWB is. My inverted wingers are instructed not to cross, so they shoot and always miss, when there are players in the middle. The CWBs on support leave us massively exposed at the back. I'm in pre season, will persevere for a while longer.
Looks good. Currently top with hungerford in a online save playing 4-2-3-1. It seems a lot of the mentality settings work better this season. So cautious, balanced and positive with attacking seeming to work well. When last season there seemed to be a strong 2 🤔
It’s a online game with me and my sons we decided to start from national league north/south. My team was Hungerford that was out of the hat so to speak 😂😂
First time playing fm, used this tactic with Spennymoor Town after taking over mid-season and won the league going undefeated for 5 months (something like 25 games). Still doing reasonably well in National League, currently in promotion play-off spot in first season up.
I'm in 2025 in my first season at Kaiserslautern which has recently been promoted to the 2nd German league. I usually play 433 narrow with 2 DM's, one CAM and 3 strikers (I call the tactic 'Spearhead' because it looks like it or like an arrow). I keep drawing games while having more shots on target than my opponent. What roles would you suggests for the players? I use my LB and RB as FB's with support duty. Should I change it to WB?
Could someone out there please make these videos for console players? FM isn't that detailed on consoles and its hard to relay it from PC interface to console interface
Hey mate, lovely video. Just started a safe with a 3'rd division amateur side from Denmark so will try this one out today! A quick question - what skin do you use? Keep it up!
@kM-ij2ly strange. I'm using it in the championship and it's still early in the league but after 7 games I'm 4th and only 2 points off 1st. I've won all games but drew 1
@@ajmotovideos6779 Hmm I wonder if it is because I am listening to the assistant coaches advice because I am getting hammered. Let me try the pure tactics and nothing else
@@StingerNeilD cheers man do you have any tips I've been trying to revive scunthorpe united but have had to make at least 50 saves because they sack me when I lose a few games, only ever got to play offs once with them
@@StingerNeilD yea, im going to try it. I just started a save in the 4th tier of scottland (which is one of the lowest leagues in the game), and I am still trying to figure out what these players are. Like I got a striker with 18 acceleration and 18 pace... but 4 first touch and 5 dribbling.
Sorry it hasnt worked for you. Its worked for many but do watch the video to make sure you get the right players to fit it. You can always change roles to fit your squad too.
I sat through a 'leadership' session at work all day trying to figure out how to rescue my first, and so far disastrous season with Banbridge in the NI Prem. Got home, opened RUclips and saw Karma had presented me with a gift. Second game with The 5head stopped a run of 15 without a win, and took us off the bottom of the table. Absolute genius!
Made my morning that comment. Cheers Alan
Can confirm this is a great tactic for lower leagues, won the vanarama north first season and now unbeaten after 14 games in vanarama national
The only tweaks I made to the tactic was 'out of possession' permantly leave to trigger press 'more often' instead of 'much more often'
And changed inverted wingers to regular wingers
Thanks again
just taken over Scunthorpe and had no transfer budget or wages. Baked mistake and got 37 year old Ross McCormack and another poor 32 year old striker with some free’d up wage budget from letting my star player go because he was a right winger and i wasn’t going to use them in my formation. Not won a single game yet 5 games in and just lost 6-1 away at Bromley and they had 30 shots. So i’ve come to RUclips to hope i can be saved.
You have saved my season - I was in an atrocious run of form in a Youth Academy only save - tried this and whilst I didn't exactly set the world alight, I picked up 5 wins and a draw in 13 during the run in and stayed up (bear in mind morale was through the floor when I switched and I hadn't trained it). I also lost my captain and best CD by far half way through the run in and had to play my key BWM in defence. Love your work! Really liked the patterns of play - many of the games I lost were close where you could argue we had the better of the stats just poor finishing.
Scenes! Now build that squad and get promoted
Thumbs-up on doing a possession-based LL tactic. Many are "Find tall men. Kick ball far."
I love those too to be fair 😂
@@StingerNeilD Many ways to skin a cat
Ive recently started a journeyman save starting unemployed and I've ended up at Buxton. I was just keeping the team out of the relegation zone after the previous managers poor start and then i saw this tactic. I have used it in the last five games and we have won them all convincingly. Love the tactic mate its quality and both my strikers, the attacking midfielder and wingers are chipping in with goals 👍 I'm still getting my goals from set pieces aswell which before using your tactic was my only source of goals. Im hoping to really go for it next season using this tactic and hopefully get promotion or win the Fa trophy and move on to a bigger club. Youve earned yourself a sub here pal 👍 top man.
Worked really well for me in Vanamara League North, got promoted with Scarborough first season. 2nd season in Vanarama National started off incredibly well 1st on the table after 12 games and then stopped working entirely and i started shipping goals like crazy. Didn't even change anything in the team that's odd.
the ai can read your tactic. When you feel something off you need to change your tactic, probably after 5-10 winstreak or after you lose.
@@jessayaeireneus104wow the same exact thing happened to me I didn’t know this game did that
@@jessayaeireneus104 Yes as SWFC I am getting destroyed!
I'm new to FM, been absolutely hopeless so far, going to try this and see what happens.
If you struggle with this try one of the more basic ones on the channel. Hope it goes well
any reason for the Left IW dont have da PI "sit narrower"? is intentional?
Never won the league first 4 years of Cymru Premier (a really ridiculous league where only TNS is a pro club) with Connah Quay. Put this tactic together in video, got the right players and good depth and won the league year 5! Awesome thanks!
this tactic with some small adjusments took me to the conference league final with a romanian team, thanks a lot
Words cannot describe how much I love this man for helping my save
cheers was looking for tactic to dominate the vanarama leagues, will give this a try
Great video. Trying the tactic out now. Also love the editing style in this one, and how it was put together. Very entertaining 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed!
Tested with Chester and it's a monster. 8 points clear at the top after 19 games, into 3rd round of cuo including beating Salford (3rd in L2 at the time) in 2nd round. Chester have a decent-ish squad too so I'm only just starting to bring in some very good players so it's not about to get easier for League 2! I think this is definitely the successor to the lower league diamond destroyers of the last couple of years, well played Stinger.
Great to hear feedback. Thank you Patrick. dieing to play a few seasons with it myself
@@StingerNeilD So yeah 3 seasons in, 3 league titles. 3rd round of the cup every year and everything I thought I knew about the importance of having a DM this year has been shattered! Top work again Stinger.
@@StingerNeilD can this use for semi professional league
I’ve took over cheshunt who are predicted to finish rock bottom of the national league south and used this tactic. 10 games in and I’m top of the league having won every game
Awesome results 👏 been needing some post update inspiration so thanks!
Grazzi Ben
Using this with Scarborough predicted to finish 14th sitting nicely in 2nd at the moment. What I like about this is the route one from goal keeper straight to forward who goes round keeper and slots it home. Never seen this before ever how’s it possible ? Fantastic.
Nice man! Lower league football can throw up some quirks too
@@StingerNeilD It does on course to promotion would you use this tactic in national league next season or have you got another top tactic to try. Keep up the good work
@@thanors1492 If you have the players keep going.
@@StingerNeilD Won the league by a good 9pts .Also best in everything stats wise and no red cards all season.Predicted to not to get relegated ,lets see how we do .
Loving this tactics mate i adjusted it for my Sheffield united save won a treble in my first season i put wbs on def droped cm role to dm with dlp on def and change the am to ss droped my defences line to low👍
This is my go to channel for some tactics which work with alternate player roles, thanks
Thank you luke
This tactic is fantastic. Thanks. Where did you get that awesome light from?
1st game with this tactic as barnet won 6-0😂😂 nice work
If you win 6-0 every match I will buy Barnet FC for you
certainly works. never seen an XG like it
Dungannon Swift 33 attempts 12 on target 5-0 win XG 5.62
Nice!
So far so good 50-1 Start of season with Chesterfield in play off positions. Absolutely imperative you get first goal if the first goal goes in very strong.
Good to hear man. Tweak away as you see fit too
I'm trying it with Coggeshall in Isthmian Premier. Not working yet, though it seems like I am the only one it doesn't work with.
I guess I haven't got the players. No one can play AF without being offside 10 times per game and no one seems to know what a CWB is.
My inverted wingers are instructed not to cross, so they shoot and always miss, when there are players in the middle.
The CWBs on support leave us massively exposed at the back.
I'm in pre season, will persevere for a while longer.
im having a shit time with it in conference south, same problems,
Class as usual. Think I might try this will Yeovil Town haven’t had a save with them since 2005 (Phil Jevons was a LL baller)
Former toffee
Looks good. Currently top with hungerford in a online save playing 4-2-3-1. It seems a lot of the mentality settings work better this season. So cautious, balanced and positive with attacking seeming to work well. When last season there seemed to be a strong 2 🤔
How random! I never thought anyone else would have chosen Hungerford haha
It’s a online game with me and my sons we decided to start from national league north/south. My team was Hungerford that was out of the hat so to speak 😂😂
Will this work in the welsh third division? Or is that too low 😅
First time playing fm, used this tactic with Spennymoor Town after taking over mid-season and won the league going undefeated for 5 months (something like 25 games). Still doing reasonably well in National League, currently in promotion play-off spot in first season up.
I'm in 2025 in my first season at Kaiserslautern which has recently been promoted to the 2nd German league. I usually play 433 narrow with 2 DM's, one CAM and 3 strikers (I call the tactic 'Spearhead' because it looks like it or like an arrow).
I keep drawing games while having more shots on target than my opponent.
What roles would you suggests for the players?
I use my LB and RB as FB's with support duty. Should I change it to WB?
Tactic obviously works so play with mentality and tempo instead. Start dropping mentality first then tempo if needed
Should this work with any or most teams?
Could someone out there please make these videos for console players? FM isn't that detailed on consoles and its hard to relay it from PC interface to console interface
you earn my sub after this one, great vid
Awesome, thank you!
how can i download this it wont let me join the discord says im already registed but i cant get on it
Hey mate, lovely video. Just started a safe with a 3'rd division amateur side from Denmark so will try this one out today!
A quick question - what skin do you use?
Keep it up!
Tato skin mate
Hi mate, do you know if your Naples Slide tactic still works as well after the update? 😊
It should but... I have not yet tested in honesty
Will be giving this a go on my new career save, I was sacked by Brentford, wish I had this earlier, is there a DL btw
Found it ;)
Gonna try this thanks
Do you think this will work on console version too or not??
Can only try my friend
Will let you know
Going to give this tactic ago in my new series called The Journeyman - Folkstone
Love to see it
@@StingerNeilD I've only got 15 players on the books 🤣😂
Currently using this with plymouth in an online league and sitting 5th after 7 games, not lost yet though
Update I'm promoted to the championship. Finished 2nd to Ipswich. 93 points
I use this tactic at swfc and I keep losing!
@kM-ij2ly strange. I'm using it in the championship and it's still early in the league but after 7 games I'm 4th and only 2 points off 1st. I've won all games but drew 1
@@ajmotovideos6779 Hmm I wonder if it is because I am listening to the assistant coaches advice because I am getting hammered. Let me try the pure tactics and nothing else
@kM-ij2ly yea just try the tactics and ignore the assistant. Update me and let me know how it goes
what tactical style is it?
Clean slate
@@StingerNeilD cheers man do you have any tips I've been trying to revive scunthorpe united but have had to make at least 50 saves because they sack me when I lose a few games, only ever got to play offs once with them
interesting tactic, but if it requires flair and complete wingbacks, it seems like a tough sell for non league.
agreed but it worked so who knows hey. Can always tweak
@@StingerNeilD yea, im going to try it. I just started a save in the 4th tier of scottland (which is one of the lowest leagues in the game), and I am still trying to figure out what these players are. Like I got a striker with 18 acceleration and 18 pace... but 4 first touch and 5 dribbling.
Unfortunately the players miss a lot of goals with this tactic and it never seems to stuck with the players!
Sorry it hasnt worked for you. Its worked for many but do watch the video to make sure you get the right players to fit it. You can always change roles to fit your squad too.
@@StingerNeilD yeah. I aint saying this is not a good tactic, I'm probably doing some mistakes in the players I choose etc
Just came across this. Curious if anyone has tried it in FM24 yet? I'm playing in level 9 in England with DanFM's database. :)
Haven't mate, doubt it would work. If you try I'd take the cwbs out and try normal wbs
Used this and lost every game
I really liked the tactic, where is the download?
discord
For some reason I cannot locate on your discord?
Does it work in fm2020?
No clue in honesty
played 3 games with wrexham in vanarama and scored 2 goals and conceded 11. did exactly what you did in the vid too... i am pissed
Fm23? Haven't looked at that tactic for time, it was right at the beginning of fm23 so there's been a ton of game updates since 🤷
You can have all the tactics in the world how do you complete against a team for the title what got 108 pts lol
Pray
I'm on console edition and deep lying forward doesn't exist
I am swfc and this tactic is failing me
This tactic does not work for SWFC.
That's look very familiar to my going for it tactic on FM 18 and 19
Lower leagues dont seem to be able to handle it
This made my team worse :D