My Edgar Markov deck has morphed a lot of the years. It started out as your standard small vampires flooding the board but I wasn’t happy with it. I decided to give it a “Knight” sub theme, because I also like knights, and I actually liked it more. The knight versions are a little more durable and actually do things other than aristocrats. I added in more pieces here and there and it’s become a fun toolbox build that can win out of nowhere. I’m hoping Innistrad Vampires brings a few more vampire knights because I could swap out a few slots.
@@jeremyc9534 link should be open. Let me know if it’s not. It is a “slower” build than most, but it’s more storm than aggro. Potential chopping block: Markov Crusader Sorin, Grim Nemesis Mephidross Vampire Ethereal Absolution Considering swapping out the Temples for Pathways. Btw, it’s a crazy expensive NOW, but when I first put it together it was just over $100 (I paid $2.55 for Edgar). I got lucky with some pulls and put about another $400 (mostly mana base) into it over the years with upgrades. www.moxfield.com/decks/XImH5V0L1kaYZjIdIMgAwg
When is a Tribe not a Tribe? When it's Shapeshifter. Orvar, Reflections of Littjara, Sakashima of a Thousand Faces, Twinning Staff(back with Ikoria Commander), all really helped up the strength of Shapeshifter Tribal.
Dana is correct that goblins were the first to get a non goblin creature spell. But it wasn’t goblin grenade, but much earlier with Goblin Caves from the dark.
I think while Slivers are one of the most unique tribes, they aren't really a totally new concept in fantasy, just an amalgamation of a few different "hive-mind" type "tribes" with a different name. "Hive-mind" type entities like the Borg in Star Trek, Formics in Ender's Game, and maybe the Zerg from StarCraft come to mind. I think the most unique aspect of Slivers is how quickly they buff each other up, which some other hive-mind entities do but usually not so directly.
I run a monowhite angel tribal with Lyra Dawnbringer which is my favorite deck. I also love how they're going with the lifegain subtheme with angels because there are a few ways white can weaponize life gain. I also have a ren and siri cat tribal deck because they make dogs when they are cast or enter the battlefield (can't remember which).
Interesting episode here, just stumbled onto the podcast. Was not what I expected, though. Certainly a nice look at what tribes exist and their themes, but I was figuring this would be more of a "How to balance and build a tribal deck". Stuff for future discussions could be like: How to best capitalize on creature density for tribal decks. What generic tribal support is best and which ones are a trap (Coat of Arms being a big target here). How to exploit the lesser known tribes. How to COMBINE two tribes together into one deck. Would love to see more in-depth look at stuff, I love tribal decks and finding ways to make tribes work. Either way, nice podcast. You three make for good discussion and it is nice to see EDHREC expand out into so much content.
Great video! I love my tribes. It’s an easy fit for Vorthos players. What annoys me is when Wizards release a human tribal pre-con deck then keep making cards which make “soldier” tokens that are clearly human but don’t say that they are. It’s especially annoying because I adapted the pre-con to a Trynn and Silvar deck and apparently Silvar just doesn’t eat non-specific race soldiers 😂 I mean would it have killed them to make Keeper of the Accord make HUMAN soldiers rather than just soldiers...grumble grumble
I feel like the lesser looked at tribes like Gorgons and Minotaurs need more love. Then things like Goblins, Merfolk, Angels, etc need more tribal synergy. It's sort of unfortunate that elves keep getting stronger and more diverse because it's leaving nearly every other tribe in the dust. Vampires get a pass because Markov finally came around but even then elves seem to have stronger synergy, more commanders in more colors, and an easier time getting more cards. Most other tribes are stuck with one really good commander option and maybe a handful of others that people may take just for color identity or because there's just nothing there.
Way back before Theros was spoiled I had stocked up on gorgons hoping we'd get one I could use for a tribal commander that would work better than Sisters of Stone Death, even grabbing a nice minty copy of Infernal Medusa from Legends. When all we got was Hythonia I just gave up and wound up putting together sphinxes instead.
I actually don't think every tribe needs a 'dedicated' commander for it. I hate the feeling I get trying to build a tribal deck, scrolling through the commanders on EDHREC, and realizing "oh, I guess I need to play Edgar if I wanna play Vampires because nothing else comes anywhere close." As somebody who thought about building a pirate deck for a long time, Commander Legends came out and totally turned me off from it. I'm glad that the diehard pirate players out there got a ton of cool, good pirates. For me though, most of the appeal was trying to make-do with a bunch of bad cards. I've actually started going out of my way to find weird commanders for decks now, like using Shattergang Brothers as an Enchantress deck, or Gaddock Teeg for Elf Tribal. It's been a SUPER refreshing experience. Even just saying "whatever tribe I build, Karona the False God is gonna be my commander" is a fun change of pace, and can lead to some really cool cards getting to see play that wouldn't with another commander. I had Karona as my Human Tribal commander for a long time until they printed the new Tazri. Turns out that most of the humans i was playing already worked with the Party mechanic, and the deck is way less hard-up for a draw engine now.
Hey Joey, I first would like to say that I love the EDHRECast content! I also would like to bring up "Urborg Justice" for a "Challenge The Stats" card. This BB Instant is perfect for your recently released "Upping The Average" Syr Konrad.
Woo hoo TCG player, card kingdom and the command zone! Perks to all patrons of edhrec cast! This was a cool video the only tribal deck I have is dragons and egg tribal if you count eggs. @joey you should try dragon tribal they have some great receusion card's and the fiat was called elder dragon Highlandder for a reason! I might make another tribal deck sometime this year this video got me pumped!! Woo hoo krenko and goblins I'd love to see a morphons goblin tribal deck now! I feel the energy of goblins and looking forward to seen the new wizards from new sets. Wizards are tough but reminder me of storm combo decks also I've merfolk wizard tribal. Rawr yay dinosaurs Dino's are interesting! Great video also thanks to anyone takeing a read my comments are pretty long sometimes! Lovd all the history knowledge! Slivers are so crazy and a tad bit op might make a admir soul of elements sliver tribal. Love the challenge of the stacks. widespred red top manipulation card seems great I sicon of the ur dragon to get a big dragon into your deck top copy from your hand. Farseek is a nice card but with how much it appears in packs it an ok buget card for mono green decks. New changelings are cool too see I'm definitely upgrading my egg deck and dragon deck with changelings might make gods, dragons dwarf or egg changeling deck. Cars and dogs are awsome UwU Nya nya UwU
I feel like Cleric tribal is already a possible thing now. As soon as the last Zendikar set came out i felt clerics were ready to be their own thing. A ton of human and Angel cards are already half cleric. That set even gave us what i feel is a fantastic Cleric tribal commander in Orah, skyclave hierophant. I was thinking about building that deck but havent gotten around to it yet.
Watching this almost two years later and now the Ur-Dragon has over 12000 decks built with Miirym following with a little over 8800, and Lathril and Wilhelt are the top commanders for elves and zombies respectively, while both being precon commanders. MTG has really grown over the least year or so, hasn't it?
I remember being annoyed white had more good dragons due to cycles than good angels (back in the days when white wasn't supposed to have any good fatties). I'm waiting for a commander that gives angels convoke and/or lets you play them from exile, graveyard, and/or top-deck.
Kamahl and Miara partnered together makes a very strong elfball deck. Having a mini Craterhoof Behemoth effect in the command zone makes things consistent.
The first deck I built was spider tribal. Started with Ishkanah and it was fun, but spiders don't have a lot of synergy with each other. Recently switched it to Arasta and it has slowly grown into more of a token deck. Still spiders, but running a token strategy helped the synergy quite a bit. I chose spiders mostly because they creep me out. I guess it's very Batman - making my enemies fear what I fear.
For the 6 brews I've dabbled and dove into tribal, I have 4 which are full on tribal, with 2 of which have tribal support. Jalira (Master Polymorphist) wizard support jank Yuriko (the Tiger's Shadow) ninja tribal control Grand Warlord Radha elf fireball aggro Adeliz (the Cinder Wind) wizard tribal aggro Slimefoot (the Stowaway) saproling tribal aristocrats Rubinia Soulsinger faerie support en'bant'ress control
I run 3 different of tribal/"tribal" deck. I have Edgar Vampires for a traditional tribal, I have a Morophon Ally deck, and a Chandra "tribal". Definitely want to look at building a Sliver deck
I've had a casual sliver deck for years. My first rare I ever opened was a Sliver Queen. 20+ years later, I still have her lol. Although, Overlord is my commander, slivers have always had a special place in my heart. I recently converted my sliver deck to a commander deck about 2 years ago. I haven't looked back since. Always adding to it, tweeking the mana base, foiling every card, custom deck box, lol.
I was surprised Ninjas weren't more widely discussed, but then I realized they might be sneaking through the cracks. Given that a significant portion of a ninja deck aren't actually ninjas, they're unblockables, often Rogues.
WHY OH WHY WOTC WILL YOU NOT MAKE A LEGENDARY PHOENIX!!!!! THEY THEMSELVES ARE RARE IN THE GAME, SO WHY!!!! Edit: Eskia's Chariot is more of a Norse Flavor thing than purposely supporting cats (Freyja's chariot is pulled by two giant cats.) my money in Strixhaven is seeing something to do with Vinheim Dragon School.
zombies totally have red, see Kraum, thraximundar, nekusar, deathbringer thoctar, various conflux, war of the spark cards, etc. Sidisi brood tyrant mass reanimation tribal is super fun and pretty strong if Joey needs some inspiration. :)
There is zero opportunity cost to use snow basics (there are even tapped duals that are fetchable) and there are a lot of great recursion instances /synergies between zombies, snow, and dimir. There is also a great thematic overlap with Lilliana, and embalm keywords. Narfi is underrated like my dude konrad as a commander. Make some tokens, sac, make more, pump, run some stuff into them with a norritt, and maybe use something like songs of the damned to use your yard to ramp into a great x spell. He isn't the most powerful zombie or snow commander, but he fits in a lot of places if you're fortunate enough to have a scarab God kind of deal going. I love king narfi as a build around, and a way to enhance Lilliana, or zombir tribal . Khm gave us some great stuff like frost augur, but snow isn't very powerful outside of the limited environment.
Currently I have a rebel tribal deck built around Lin sivvi defiant hero it is easily one of my favorite decks mostly because it's able to be consistent without always feeling the same
I got a little bit tired of Golgari Elf, frankly. Elves could lean into other secondary colors without relying on the same trite narrative/graveyard recursion angle and the overall explosive mana angle and aggression could really benefit a set with Gruul (or even Jund aligned) Elves.
Full on tribal is always been sorta meh to me. Although as a sub theme I usually shoehorn one or two tribal synergies in if I see a large number of tribe mates already in the deck. My Kethis deck just happened to run a large number of elves so I put Ezuri, Rys and Allasorus Shepherd in for alternative play routes.
I know this show is focused on commander, but I think the occasional brawl special could be cool. I'm having so much fun with my Toralf brawl deck with a giant creature theme.
My only tribal deck is a goblin deck helmed by Purphoros. It wins very consistently. And is probably the easiest deck I have to pilot - just play everything!
@@ketchumall8243 I meant from the show. Orah can be great I have the deck built. I just wish people would see clerics as a more viable tribe. They seem to get overlooked
I was really upset when Ur Dragon was the 5 color commander, and dragons as the 5 color tribe. Took away that slot from Slivers and Allies, THE 5 color tribes
I agree mostly, the Ur dragon is such an badass idea but it's unfortunate that the only good dragon commanders are 1, 2 and then 5 colored. Trying to build a 3 color dragon commander for my friend and as epic as the Ur dragon is, it just kinda feels greedy to play 5 colors and I feel most of the non red dragons lose their "dragon" identity which is a bit unfortunate.
I'm currently finalizing my Horror tribal deck. I wanted a tribal deck, but had already made Vampires, Zombies, and Demons. I wanted the challenge of something else.
Will there be a more in depth tribal discussion? How to decide how many on-tribe creatures to run, and how many cards purely to support them? What can you do if you don't have strong mana producing or card advantage tribe? It seems a bit straight forward what to do with more popular tribes, but what if it's more obscure and within the creature type there's no real theme? I hardly see people do much with sea creatures, birds, or giants (despite all the recent giant support)
I have both a bird tribal and sea tribal deck. Usually with decks that do not have synergy cards in the core slots (i.e. card draw, ramp, and removal) I use the best generic "good stuffs" cards I can. I avoid those cards in other decks so as to avoid homogeneity, but I feel like they are fair in tribal decks that even if fully optimized, will only ever reach a 5 or 6 on the 1-10 power scale. As for how many tribal cards to run and how many support cards to run, I really like 25+ of the tribe (or core strategy in any deck for that matter) and I try to overlap those with as many payoff cards as I can. For payoff cards that do not do anything on their own such as Cathars Crusade in token decks for example, I tend to do 10-12 max. But again, the more cards that overlap in categories the better! The command zone has a great overview (I believe its their Deck Building Template episode.) They intend to do an upgraded episode for that subject soon too which I look forward to.
As a devoted Zada player since I opened her in Battle For Zenkidar... all I can say for your opening comment about goblin tribal and comparing goblins to kindergartners is... How dare you assume things that are entirely correct.
abzan elf trible with Kethis, the Hidden Hand (Commander) is bonkers with tons of tokens there are a few really good selesnya legendary s making mass amount of tokens you can deal with along with golgari recursion. a very under played commander for elf tribal imo
The unkillable nature of zombies is what makes them my favorite tribe. A couple months ago, I had an opponent use three boardwipes over four turns to try to deal with the menace, but it ultimately had very little impact on the threat my deck posed, and they lost anyways. In any other tribal deck, a boardwipe can be a death sentence, but zombies just shrug it off.
Coming from a yugioh background and then jumping to magic . Tribal was a natural fit for me since most of yugioh is archetype heavy.
Same here with Cardfight clans
I did this too! I ended up finding out tribal in magic wasnt for me tho
I make a crack about no secret lairs, and before the show airs we get 17 new secret lairs.
Lol XD big oof silly wizards but on the upside uro Titian of nature is getting baned in Muti formats soon or at least some time this year.
The aspect of tribes is what really drew me to Magic.
just out of the hospital. this is just what i needed
We’re glad you’re out, glad our content is helpful, and hope you’re doing well! Best wishes
Yea~ once you see the bill for buying half these cards, your medical bills will be nothing~!
All seriousness, glad your doing better~! Get well soon.
@@Superintendent_Chalmers have you met the american health system
@@justinisorange Twas the joke~
@@Superintendent_Chalmers yeah but it was wrong
That Farseek bit makes me wonder how many decks have Into the North without any snow lands.
Me and my six tribal Commander decks thank you for this video.
@Bo Kuen Tao Beasts, Elves, Fungi/Saprolings, Vampires, Wizards, and Zombies
@Bo Kuen Tao I went with Adeliz, but there are so many good choices for Wizards
My Edgar Markov deck has morphed a lot of the years. It started out as your standard small vampires flooding the board but I wasn’t happy with it. I decided to give it a “Knight” sub theme, because I also like knights, and I actually liked it more. The knight versions are a little more durable and actually do things other than aristocrats. I added in more pieces here and there and it’s become a fun toolbox build that can win out of nowhere. I’m hoping Innistrad Vampires brings a few more vampire knights because I could swap out a few slots.
Would you happen to have a deck list for that?
@@jeremyc9534 link should be open. Let me know if it’s not. It is a “slower” build than most, but it’s more storm than aggro.
Potential chopping block:
Markov Crusader
Sorin, Grim Nemesis
Mephidross Vampire
Ethereal Absolution
Considering swapping out the Temples for Pathways.
Btw, it’s a crazy expensive NOW, but when I first put it together it was just over $100 (I paid $2.55 for Edgar). I got lucky with some pulls and put about another $400 (mostly mana base) into it over the years with upgrades.
www.moxfield.com/decks/XImH5V0L1kaYZjIdIMgAwg
I bet you're glad we get more Ixalan next year now. Knights are sick.
@@collinbeal oh yeah. More vampires, more knights, I’m here for it.
reading this post-ixhalan and innistrad vamps feels great. hope it went for you, bud :D
When is a Tribe not a Tribe? When it's Shapeshifter. Orvar, Reflections of Littjara, Sakashima of a Thousand Faces, Twinning Staff(back with Ikoria Commander), all really helped up the strength of Shapeshifter Tribal.
Inala got 1-420- Decks and is Rank 69? Nice²
Reddit will love this
Nice tribal?
Nice
Dana is correct that goblins were the first to get a non goblin creature spell. But it wasn’t goblin grenade, but much earlier with Goblin Caves from the dark.
Farseek was a GREAT catch!
You guys missed my favorite tribe 😭 where are my merfolk at
Professor, this you?
@@shiro4833 nah just another merfolk enjoyer. Merfolk tribal was my first deck ever and it holds a special place in my collection
I wasn’t clocking it, but I think Joey made a series fastest Twitch plug this episode. Thanks for the great content
I think while Slivers are one of the most unique tribes, they aren't really a totally new concept in fantasy, just an amalgamation of a few different "hive-mind" type "tribes" with a different name. "Hive-mind" type entities like the Borg in Star Trek, Formics in Ender's Game, and maybe the Zerg from StarCraft come to mind. I think the most unique aspect of Slivers is how quickly they buff each other up, which some other hive-mind entities do but usually not so directly.
Great video, boys. Keep up the hard work.
I run a monowhite angel tribal with Lyra Dawnbringer which is my favorite deck. I also love how they're going with the lifegain subtheme with angels because there are a few ways white can weaponize life gain.
I also have a ren and siri cat tribal deck because they make dogs when they are cast or enter the battlefield (can't remember which).
Still surprised we are waiting for a solid angel tribal legend and a demon tribal legend.
Kaalia of the Vast?
Any Shadowborne Apostles deck?
I still like the partner pair of Krav the redeemed.. And that angel chick. Hahah
Erebos helms my Demon deck.
And a year later we have giada!
I really want Gorgons to get some love.
Scarecrows
Gorgons and snakes. I personally really want a UB "Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, Serpent" commander.
@@almisami closest thing would probably be Arixmethes
Sisters of Stone Death?
Interesting episode here, just stumbled onto the podcast. Was not what I expected, though. Certainly a nice look at what tribes exist and their themes, but I was figuring this would be more of a "How to balance and build a tribal deck".
Stuff for future discussions could be like: How to best capitalize on creature density for tribal decks. What generic tribal support is best and which ones are a trap (Coat of Arms being a big target here). How to exploit the lesser known tribes. How to COMBINE two tribes together into one deck. Would love to see more in-depth look at stuff, I love tribal decks and finding ways to make tribes work.
Either way, nice podcast. You three make for good discussion and it is nice to see EDHREC expand out into so much content.
Great video! I love my tribes. It’s an easy fit for Vorthos players.
What annoys me is when Wizards release a human tribal pre-con deck then keep making cards which make “soldier” tokens that are clearly human but don’t say that they are. It’s especially annoying because I adapted the pre-con to a Trynn and Silvar deck and apparently Silvar just doesn’t eat non-specific race soldiers 😂
I mean would it have killed them to make Keeper of the Accord make HUMAN soldiers rather than just soldiers...grumble grumble
I feel like the lesser looked at tribes like Gorgons and Minotaurs need more love. Then things like Goblins, Merfolk, Angels, etc need more tribal synergy. It's sort of unfortunate that elves keep getting stronger and more diverse because it's leaving nearly every other tribe in the dust. Vampires get a pass because Markov finally came around but even then elves seem to have stronger synergy, more commanders in more colors, and an easier time getting more cards. Most other tribes are stuck with one really good commander option and maybe a handful of others that people may take just for color identity or because there's just nothing there.
Way back before Theros was spoiled I had stocked up on gorgons hoping we'd get one I could use for a tribal commander that would work better than Sisters of Stone Death, even grabbing a nice minty copy of Infernal Medusa from Legends. When all we got was Hythonia I just gave up and wound up putting together sphinxes instead.
MaRo be like: "BuT MoRoPhOn!!"
Scarecrows!
I actually don't think every tribe needs a 'dedicated' commander for it. I hate the feeling I get trying to build a tribal deck, scrolling through the commanders on EDHREC, and realizing "oh, I guess I need to play Edgar if I wanna play Vampires because nothing else comes anywhere close."
As somebody who thought about building a pirate deck for a long time, Commander Legends came out and totally turned me off from it. I'm glad that the diehard pirate players out there got a ton of cool, good pirates. For me though, most of the appeal was trying to make-do with a bunch of bad cards.
I've actually started going out of my way to find weird commanders for decks now, like using Shattergang Brothers as an Enchantress deck, or Gaddock Teeg for Elf Tribal. It's been a SUPER refreshing experience. Even just saying "whatever tribe I build, Karona the False God is gonna be my commander" is a fun change of pace, and can lead to some really cool cards getting to see play that wouldn't with another commander. I had Karona as my Human Tribal commander for a long time until they printed the new Tazri. Turns out that most of the humans i was playing already worked with the Party mechanic, and the deck is way less hard-up for a draw engine now.
Hey Joey, I first would like to say that I love the EDHRECast content! I also would like to bring up "Urborg Justice" for a "Challenge The Stats" card. This BB Instant is perfect for your recently released "Upping The Average" Syr Konrad.
Woo hoo TCG player, card kingdom and the command zone! Perks to all patrons of edhrec cast! This was a cool video the only tribal deck I have is dragons and egg tribal if you count eggs. @joey you should try dragon tribal they have some great receusion card's and the fiat was called elder dragon Highlandder for a reason! I might make another tribal deck sometime this year this video got me pumped!! Woo hoo krenko and goblins I'd love to see a morphons goblin tribal deck now! I feel the energy of goblins and looking forward to seen the new wizards from new sets. Wizards are tough but reminder me of storm combo decks also I've merfolk wizard tribal. Rawr yay dinosaurs Dino's are interesting! Great video also thanks to anyone takeing a read my comments are pretty long sometimes! Lovd all the history knowledge! Slivers are so crazy and a tad bit op might make a admir soul of elements sliver tribal. Love the challenge of the stacks. widespred red top manipulation card seems great I sicon of the ur dragon to get a big dragon into your deck top copy from your hand. Farseek is a nice card but with how much it appears in packs it an ok buget card for mono green decks. New changelings are cool too see I'm definitely upgrading my egg deck and dragon deck with changelings might make gods, dragons dwarf or egg changeling deck. Cars and dogs are awsome UwU Nya nya UwU
Farseek is cool with triomes
It's just generally a great card. Just not in mono-g :)
I feel like Cleric tribal is already a possible thing now. As soon as the last Zendikar set came out i felt clerics were ready to be their own thing. A ton of human and Angel cards are already half cleric. That set even gave us what i feel is a fantastic Cleric tribal commander in Orah, skyclave hierophant. I was thinking about building that deck but havent gotten around to it yet.
Edhrecast: There are no orzhov angel commanders
Liesa: Am I a joke to you?
Watching this almost two years later and now the Ur-Dragon has over 12000 decks built with Miirym following with a little over 8800, and Lathril and Wilhelt are the top commanders for elves and zombies respectively, while both being precon commanders. MTG has really grown over the least year or so, hasn't it?
I remember being annoyed white had more good dragons due to cycles than good angels (back in the days when white wasn't supposed to have any good fatties). I'm waiting for a commander that gives angels convoke and/or lets you play them from exile, graveyard, and/or top-deck.
I'd love to see their take on an Edgar Markov deck that's around 7/10 in power.
Play high cost vamps. It nerfs him a lot
I really enjoyed all the history in this episode. :) i was happy to see you mentioning elementals at the end. Big love to Risen Reef.xx
Kamahl and Miara partnered together makes a very strong elfball deck. Having a mini Craterhoof Behemoth effect in the command zone makes things consistent.
The first deck I built was spider tribal. Started with Ishkanah and it was fun, but spiders don't have a lot of synergy with each other. Recently switched it to Arasta and it has slowly grown into more of a token deck. Still spiders, but running a token strategy helped the synergy quite a bit. I chose spiders mostly because they creep me out. I guess it's very Batman - making my enemies fear what I fear.
For the 6 brews I've dabbled and dove into tribal, I have 4 which are full on tribal, with 2 of which have tribal support.
Jalira (Master Polymorphist) wizard support jank
Yuriko (the Tiger's Shadow) ninja tribal control
Grand Warlord Radha elf fireball aggro
Adeliz (the Cinder Wind) wizard tribal aggro
Slimefoot (the Stowaway) saproling tribal aristocrats
Rubinia Soulsinger faerie support en'bant'ress control
I run 3 different of tribal/"tribal" deck. I have Edgar Vampires for a traditional tribal, I have a Morophon Ally deck, and a Chandra "tribal".
Definitely want to look at building a Sliver deck
I've had a casual sliver deck for years. My first rare I ever opened was a Sliver Queen. 20+ years later, I still have her lol. Although, Overlord is my commander, slivers have always had a special place in my heart. I recently converted my sliver deck to a commander deck about 2 years ago. I haven't looked back since. Always adding to it, tweeking the mana base, foiling every card, custom deck box, lol.
Angels have definitely dipped into black before. There are even a couple angel commanders with black.
My latest tribal decks actually use two tribes. For instance my golem tribal deck has a few artificers in it cause someone has to make the golems!
This was a great video! My friend John just had someone break into his car and steal a bunch of stuff, including his two thousand dollar Sliver Deck.
I adore tribal theme, I have a Rogues, Dinosaurs, Dragons and my own tribal: Buff Magic Characters
I was surprised Ninjas weren't more widely discussed, but then I realized they might be sneaking through the cracks. Given that a significant portion of a ninja deck aren't actually ninjas, they're unblockables, often Rogues.
I ran Farseek in Ezuri and I casted it and immediately felt stupid lol
WHY OH WHY WOTC WILL YOU NOT MAKE A LEGENDARY PHOENIX!!!!! THEY THEMSELVES ARE RARE IN THE GAME, SO WHY!!!!
Edit: Eskia's Chariot is more of a Norse Flavor thing than purposely supporting cats (Freyja's chariot is pulled by two giant cats.)
my money in Strixhaven is seeing something to do with Vinheim Dragon School.
zombies totally have red, see Kraum, thraximundar, nekusar, deathbringer thoctar, various conflux, war of the spark cards, etc.
Sidisi brood tyrant mass reanimation tribal is super fun and pretty strong if Joey needs some inspiration. :)
I’m currently brewing an abzan elves deck, decided to run nethroi as the commander. I’m quickly realizing there’s not nearly enough slots!!!
I've never commented on Matt's dad jokes but that one was high quality
Yess also fresh af
That's my deck! Dimir dragon (pseudo-) tribal with Silumgar, the Drifting Death!
There is zero opportunity cost to use snow basics (there are even tapped duals that are fetchable) and there are a lot of great recursion instances /synergies between zombies, snow, and dimir. There is also a great thematic overlap with Lilliana, and embalm keywords. Narfi is underrated like my dude konrad as a commander. Make some tokens, sac, make more, pump, run some stuff into them with a norritt, and maybe use something like songs of the damned to use your yard to ramp into a great x spell. He isn't the most powerful zombie or snow commander, but he fits in a lot of places if you're fortunate enough to have a scarab God kind of deal going. I love king narfi as a build around, and a way to enhance Lilliana, or zombir tribal . Khm gave us some great stuff like frost augur, but snow isn't very powerful outside of the limited environment.
Vampires Vampires everywhere
It's been a long time I've heard the cast picking up Joey with ezuri claw of progress and that's amazing to hear
I tuned to hear jokes. And the rest. But moslty jokes.
Currently I have a rebel tribal deck built around Lin sivvi defiant hero it is easily one of my favorite decks mostly because it's able to be consistent without always feeling the same
I have way to many decks yet I only have one tribal deck. Kinghts with Syr Gwyn at the helm.
I got a little bit tired of Golgari Elf, frankly.
Elves could lean into other secondary colors without relying on the same trite narrative/graveyard recursion angle and the overall explosive mana angle and aggression could really benefit a set with Gruul (or even Jund aligned) Elves.
Mr. Roach, can't forget Goblin Caves and Goblin Shrine from The Dark 👍
Mono Green: Trade Farseek for Three Visits.
Ohh Joey, you're not a true necromancer if you don't reanimate 15+ zombies in a single turn
And then flash in Liliana's Standard Bearer
Dare I say, Wizard of the Cards?
tfw Inalla is 69th most played commander with 1,420 decks 👌🏼
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Firja's should have given haste in last 2 chapters. Would have been SUPER AWESOME.
I shoved Esika's Chariot straight into my Kaheera deck!
Goblins are my favorite. My first 2 decks were tribal. Gishath ans Krenko
Fallen Empires had another noncreature card that cared about a particular creature type: Fungal Bloom. :P
Full on tribal is always been sorta meh to me. Although as a sub theme I usually shoehorn one or two tribal synergies in if I see a large number of tribe mates already in the deck. My Kethis deck just happened to run a large number of elves so I put Ezuri, Rys and Allasorus Shepherd in for alternative play routes.
I know this show is focused on commander, but I think the occasional brawl special could be cool. I'm having so much fun with my Toralf brawl deck with a giant creature theme.
Rogue's primary function are to fight and die for Marchesa, the Black Rose, then fight and die again.
My only tribal deck is a goblin deck helmed by Purphoros. It wins very consistently. And is probably the easiest deck I have to pilot - just play everything!
Need, more, HORSES!!!!
Ertai, the Corrupted though not a zombie has always been my Esper Zombie General.
No cleric love :(
*Edit* last second mention but clerics do need more love
Honestly, with Orah, skyclave hierophant from the last Zendikar set, i feel like Clerics can have a great deck.
@@ketchumall8243 I meant from the show. Orah can be great I have the deck built. I just wish people would see clerics as a more viable tribe. They seem to get overlooked
@@kamakazi339 I'm thinking of an Orah deck! It seems like a lot of fun
@@adamapple8638 It is a blast. A ton of great value
I was really upset when Ur Dragon was the 5 color commander, and dragons as the 5 color tribe. Took away that slot from Slivers and Allies, THE 5 color tribes
I agree mostly, the Ur dragon is such an badass idea but it's unfortunate that the only good dragon commanders are 1, 2 and then 5 colored. Trying to build a 3 color dragon commander for my friend and as epic as the Ur dragon is, it just kinda feels greedy to play 5 colors and I feel most of the non red dragons lose their "dragon" identity which is a bit unfortunate.
5 color dragons was the right move
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Yes, even when I shouldn't
where is that orzhov angel commander maaaan
All the new angels look fun
Big Ups to Data for those Blasts from the Past - you should totally Create a Section for that?
Let's see some atog tribal, I think that would be funny xD
Jesus, Matt... that Wallstreet joke. 👏🏻👏🏻
I'm currently finalizing my Horror tribal deck. I wanted a tribal deck, but had already made Vampires, Zombies, and Demons. I wanted the challenge of something else.
Will there be a more in depth tribal discussion? How to decide how many on-tribe creatures to run, and how many cards purely to support them? What can you do if you don't have strong mana producing or card advantage tribe? It seems a bit straight forward what to do with more popular tribes, but what if it's more obscure and within the creature type there's no real theme? I hardly see people do much with sea creatures, birds, or giants (despite all the recent giant support)
I have both a bird tribal and sea tribal deck. Usually with decks that do not have synergy cards in the core slots (i.e. card draw, ramp, and removal) I use the best generic "good stuffs" cards I can. I avoid those cards in other decks so as to avoid homogeneity, but I feel like they are fair in tribal decks that even if fully optimized, will only ever reach a 5 or 6 on the 1-10 power scale. As for how many tribal cards to run and how many support cards to run, I really like 25+ of the tribe (or core strategy in any deck for that matter) and I try to overlap those with as many payoff cards as I can. For payoff cards that do not do anything on their own such as Cathars Crusade in token decks for example, I tend to do 10-12 max. But again, the more cards that overlap in categories the better! The command zone has a great overview (I believe its their Deck Building Template episode.) They intend to do an upgraded episode for that subject soon too which I look forward to.
Give me a proper werewolf, wolf tribal. Fingers crossed for Midnight Hunt.
As a devoted Zada player since I opened her in Battle For Zenkidar... all I can say for your opening comment about goblin tribal and comparing goblins to kindergartners is...
How dare you assume things that are entirely correct.
The new elf commander honestly busted elfs and I love it.
elves*
YAAAAAAS!
Samurai really need more support. There are no 2 color legendary samurai!
Looking forward to a sweet Mardu Angels commander.
I'm making a morophon minotaur deck, once I take the vaccine, I will buy the new theros, new zendiakar and jumpstart minotaurs
Tribal decks?
I have:
Mono Black Demons
Mardu Vampires
UB Zombies
GW Cats
BG Elves
i play zaxara so X spells/hydra tribal? does that count?
I still don't like secret lairs
Prossh? That's my dragon commander!
I wonder if any of those people playing farseek have some odd corner cases with it that makes it worth running
No one wanted to talk about dwarves? Magda looks super super cool
abzan elf trible with Kethis, the Hidden Hand (Commander) is bonkers with tons of tokens there are a few really good selesnya legendary s making mass amount of tokens you can deal with along with golgari recursion. a very under played commander for elf tribal imo
Give us more Wurms! Need more wurm decks!!
The unkillable nature of zombies is what makes them my favorite tribe. A couple months ago, I had an opponent use three boardwipes over four turns to try to deal with the menace, but it ultimately had very little impact on the threat my deck posed, and they lost anyways. In any other tribal deck, a boardwipe can be a death sentence, but zombies just shrug it off.
I suspect that dinosaurs have stolen the spotlight from beasts. Naya colours, big stompy creatures, and overall the same style and feel.
I built knights five different ways in five different decks.
Rebals and Mercenaries should come back at some point.
Can we submit challenges if we're not paying in Patreon?
I love Beebles, unfortunately, there are only four beeble cards and two of them are unhinged. We nerd more beebles
Watched the whole video for elemental coverage.. or lack of lol
I want a Abzan angeltribal commander.