How We HELP Our ELECTRICIANS⚡️ Ep. 10
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2021
- hey Gang! You guys have been asking for it for a long time and we're finally bringing you some electrical content. This is how we operate during the electrical phase of our projects. We wanted to try and go into as much detail as possible because when it comes to electricity details are everything! We hope you guys learned something from this video and that we could maybe make a job safer for someone out there. Thanks for watching and we'll see ya in the next one!
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It's weird seeing a contractor setting up for an electrician. Usually they just leave it, cut what they want, and say "not my job". I appreciate seeing you care about the job as a whole to make things run smooth for everyone on the job.
We do it all the time. But we also do alot of our own.
Back 20+ yrs ago I lrnd getting along with and trading tips and beers with other trades made for an easier and cheaper working relationship
Most contractors earn 5here money.
You guys bust your tail on these videos...all the video editing, camera angles, lighting, narration,etc...I just want you to know I recognize it and I appreciate what you both are doing. so, a very genuine and heartfelt Thank you from me.
Hi Stud Pack , I am a master electrician from Quebec, you deserve a Honorary electrician license, you are great at it. You explain things and diagnose electrical like a pro! Only thing I would recommend less junction boxes the better try running home runs to the panel . Attics are not the best environment for wiring as it’s not conditioned environment. Example the high heat in summer the table on wiring in the code for 90 plus degrees you have to cut the amount of amps that circuit can supply on a given awg size or pass larger awg size. You said yourself in Louisiana you guys like large pantry’s , so put your junction boxes in there . Keep making those incredible videos . Thank you Gang.
As an Electrician of 17 years, you did a great job. You indeed remove the hot first, the neutral and then the ground. I’ll say I’m not a fan of the stab in the back connections. I always loop and put my wire under the screw in such a way that the wire tightens itself around the screw as you tighten the screw.
Stabbing in the back should be illegal
I get so many calls for loss of power on receptacles. Good ol stab in receptacles, neutral loosened up and burned up receptacle losing power to other receptacles down stream since circuit was in n out thru receptacle instead of pigtailed n spliced.
Pretty good job though helping out the electricians.
Good idea not pretwisting conductors as I've have run into so many broken wire in the wirenut.
He did mention that it was only temporary and that he always loops them around the screw
Outlets w/ stab in the back work loose, lights are OK
There are some where you stick them in the back, but you have to tighten the screw. I think those are better than even using the side screw. Provided you tighten them enough.
Man, your electrician must love you! Installing junction boxes up high in the attic, what foresight and practicality! One of the many reasons I'm a Studpack fan! Good work guys!
Thx John 👍
Amen
The gold standard is buried in insulation 👍
@@StudPack a seam ripper works great for splitting cable sheathing! Super inexpensive and no chance of nicking a wire when cutting open that sheathing
Less money for the electrician less work lol this guy is only saving money being cheap
5:19 - This is a great tip that I've never heard before since watching DIY videos for about 4 years. Nobody mentions this and it's a great safety technique.
The best way to make sure circuits are off. Always cut through both conductors at the same time with your favorite pair of cutters. You'll always be afraid of ruining a good tool and double check!!!!
Looool had this happen to me before , ruined 2 day old strippers haha
@@joshlavecchia9888 how do the stripper get ruined?
@@jmarine79 More than likely the current melted them when the strippers acted as a bridge between the live wire and neutral/ground. Don't ask me how I know this. 😂 😂
Guys it’s no joke, think about wearing one PPE glove & move safe up one level, just think if touching wrong edge of pliers
BUT REMEMEBER, EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST WAY TO REMEMBER ,," SAFETY FIRST'"
As an electrician of 32 years - you’re just fine! Anyone willing to work with their electrician like this is so helpful! It would cost us more to come move a few wires and terminate a few boxes than the project would be worth. Good on ya
I wish more electricians were like you.
@@JediOfTheRepublic it’s always best to keep the high ground!
@@JediOfTheRepublic this is only absolutely hilarious, because most of my social media presence, my avatar is Captain Rex!
@@steveheathen212 hahaha, very cool! Yeah, have had this name for over 10 years I believe haha
@@JediOfTheRepublic fantastic!
I'm an electrician and everything I'm seeing you do looks very good! Your safety tips you give everyone are really good too🙂. Great work!
I appreciate that!
An electrician where? I'm curious where this would pass inspection. It would fail here immediately. Every box would need removed and replaced.
@@nilpo LMAO why would that be, theres nothing wrong there🤷♂️
@@willschultz5452 He's removing the tabs from the back of the PVC work boxes that are meant to clamp the Romex and prevent it from being pulled out easily. It's a code violation and every inspector I've come across would require them to be removed and replaced.
@@nilpo those are not the clamp type of boxes, those are the type that you remove the tabs completely. They only rely on a staple put on the wire close to the box to hold the wire in the box.
Apprentice electrician here. When removing live devices I was taught a different combination to remove the wires. We remove the ground first, hots second, neutrals last and reassemble in reverse. The reason we cut off the ground first is because while you're holding that device by the yoke with the ground attached you're grounded. Which means if you touch a hot wire you're going to be electrocuted. Or if a hot wire slips and touches any metal parts besides the hot terminal screws it's going to arc. With the ground removed you're actually in a much safer position. What happens if you touch a live wire when you aren't grounded? Nothing. There's no path back to source. Neutrals are always after hots because you don't want to create an open neutral and risk frying someones electronics further down the line. You've also learned in the past that getting nailed by a neutral really sucks. This is all a non-issue if the power is off. But hey, it's a long walk to the panel.
Thanks for the video and keep up the great content.
As a DIYer, I always kill the breaker and test for current before working on an existing outlet, switch or fixture. I know you guys know more than me, but I'm not made of money and some things are basic enough for someone with intelligence and common sense to study up and do the job themselves.
I'm sure you've come across (or will) some horrendous DIY wiring.
One house I considered back when I was house hunting had outlets in the garage wired to an extension cord plugged into the wall in the mud room.
@@dokenboken5542 I plug something into every socket that's supposed to be run off the labelled curcuit and then see what's still working before doing anything else
Our 32a kitchen cooker curcuit was running off the 5a lighting curcuit when we moved in so anything is possible
When we were taught to do Consumer unit changes (Fuse Boxes/Panels) it was remove the ground first, then neutral then hot so it had no paths to go down and as long as you were on insulated pads you'd be too high resistance to carry the current anyway. Each scenario is different though and you need to know what you're working on and what order to do it in if you have to work live on something.
@@therealdojj I would recommend getting one of those pencil looking testers like he uses at 22:00 for like 10 bucks. I used the same method you use but didn't realize my house has a few circuits with a shared neutral. So even with the fuse unplugged it was still a hot neutral. The only downside is then having to find what circuit the neutral is tied into.
someone taught you wrong. if you remove the ground first you are removing your safety first. thats like climbing a cliff without your rope. If your wire slips or you shock yourself that is operator error and should be adressed in a different way. If you are incompetent then just kill the power before playing with stuff.
This is probably the most educational video Ive ever seen. I learned a lot. Just all the little tips are amazing (if I can remember them lol).
Thx Dustin 👍
Nice work stud pack! So you know, you are truly old school when people took pride in their work! 👏
I just have to say that any licensed installer throwing you shade should know , that thanks to you guy's I have been able to get things done on my mobile home while making it safer than the manufacturer . Much of their work should be illegal . And if I could afford their rates , I wouldn't live in a mobile home ! So thank you gentlemen for helping out .
its up to the electrician to check and sign the work off. its the same when they have an aprentice what do the do just watch for 3 years before the touch anything. you do good work any electrician worth his salt would call it a blessing
My grandfather died 56 years ago, I barely have any memories....He would have cried when he seen you pitching that old wire and junction box. He was a helper for plumbers and electricians....and he salvaged everything from the jobs he worked on. When he built his house, he used all the old wire for the tube and knob. I remember looking up into the floor joists from the basement, and seeing the wiring taped together every 4 foot, 6 foot, 4 again......It is a wonder the old homestead never burned to the ground. Love your channnel...
That was my grandfather too, he could fix anything with the odds and ends he had on hand, miss him a ton.
My grandfathers barns ewere sided with the old shingles he pulled off of houses that caught on fire and were being bulldozed. He was a firefighter in the 60s and anytime a total loss house still had some good shingles he would pop them off and his barns and coop had 3 tab, octagonal, and everyother color and type of old shingle you could imagine as their siding. Still keeping most of the water out of the barns today. Some of them are probably 80 year old asphalt shingles today. He lived at a time when men were men and women were too. The trades are dying and its gonna be a huge problem 10 years from know.
Great video and I aways learn something from each one. This one, I learned about the "grounding wire nut", never seen one, great idea!
Great job guys! Your electrician is going to be amazed at how easy you have made his job. I enjoyed the breaker test at the end because I have never done that before ; )
First of all, let me say that you’re not only knowledgeable but also wise. Thanks for these videos. It is not only entertaining but it actually teaches you things that otherwise you might have not known. Great job!
Great job on your electrical demo job! I could only wish to come behind you to do the finishing electrical work.
Also pig-tailing is the best wiring method for devices to make sure receptacles last with minimal issues. Backstabbing is what keeps the electrical service companies in business.😁
I hope your electrician remembers to arc fault protect all circuits that are relocated, modified, added, or repaired... including receptacle replacement.
Again beautiful work!
This old man actually learned something.... now that I retired. The ideal wire nut nut driver adapter. Really good tips in this video.
22:04 I just learned the proper way is to test against a known power source, then your project wire, then back to known live source. It comes from using the non-led tool, but still good to do out of habit.
It’s crazy how much you remind me of the tile setter I had back when I was a helper. I swear you guys could be brothers. I catch my self telling my helper a lot of the same things he use to tell me. So it’s awesome to see you guys saying a lot of the same stuff too. It seems like you have some great tip about almost anything, he was the same way too. Great videos! Keep it up! 100k soon hopefully!
NYC here. I worked with BX and metal boxes in a 1940s studio apartment that I renovated. I don't like Romex or plastic boxes, but the fight that I had to put up to rehab cloth-insulated wires was one for the ages. I even had to break up soldered wires that fed downstream outlets. The night before I was due to finish, I tripped a CKT with my miter saw and could not ID the fuse at first. Future me's and anyone else is in for a treat, but the stress was no bueno. Great work all around, awesome explanations, and not a word over what was necessary! Thanks!
Thx Marcos 👍. I prefer MC and EMT and metal boxes too. Goes back to my commercial days I guess 💪
I absolutely love your channel. I live in the UK and things are done differently but that doesn't stop me watching every single video you post. I have got some great tips from you. I also love the father and son duo, you guys get on so well. Keep up the good work. I'm so glad I found your channel xx
Really good video and nice job on the filming. My Dad was a general contractor in Michigan back in the 60's and 70's and you and your son really bring back the memories for me. He used to do a lot of the same thing. Thanks for the great job!
Here in Canada we use metal boxes so we put all of our grounds to the back of the box on a screw and run 1 wire to the ground screw. Everything else is the same as far as residential electrical goes. I have never seen a plastic box or ground wire nuts.
I love the preparation organization before the electrician goes in it makes it easy on the job and the customer paying for the job.
I"m a DYI kinda guy, and love watching your videos. I have learned a lot. Thank you, and your son for all the helpful videos.
Nice video. Doing similar work for my electrician in a basement build. Never knew about the "adjustable box". Perfect for the small kitchen I'm installing to allow for the backsplash! Thanks for the info.
Cool, thanks Rick!!
Those square things in the blue Carlon boxes aren't knockouts. They're cable clamps. You're supposed to open them on one side; the other side is a hinge. You slide the cable through and the little flap will wedge into the cable sheath so you can't pull it out.
I was just going to say this. I am not a licensed electrician, however have done some small electrical work at home and that is 1 thing I noticed with these boxes. They are indeed NOT knockouts, they are hinged like a Chinese finger trap. Wire can push in easily but not pull out.
The cheaper ones are barely hanging on by 2 little pieces of plastic and won't hinge. I've seen both types
They are knockouts for that box style. The clamp type you speak of is a different box style. First strap will hold the cable in the box.
@@patrickdriscoll7881 what do you mean "first strap" will hold it? You mean staple on the wire? Not all installs of these boxes have stapled wire. Some are just strung across ceilings, or dropped through a wall cavity. I understand the boxes with clamps are a different style. But in the end, a box still requires a clamp of some sort to hold the wire in place. You would never pass an inspection if you used a metal box without a clamp even if it was stapled. Plastic is no different. The only reason why he may be getting passed is because those plastic locks arent as easily seen from the outside so are assumed to be intact. I think his ceiling install of that plastic box doesnt have the wire stapled, so what's the safety of that box without the staple?
@@jordankesselring4852 Yes a staple is a form of strapping to hold the wire.
The box in question has four plastic tits that hold the KO. Once clipped or otherwise separated there is only an opening.
The final strapping (which he explained will be done all at once) will take care of it.
Your question about why other boxes require a connector and this type doesn’t is valid. Not sure why yet I’ve never failed an inspection because of it.
I've seen you work and it is spot on! I was an electrician and being licensed is a piece of paper that does not replace responsibility quality and work ethic, all things that you have shown mastery in. Your videos could easily be shown in trade school. Simply awesome!
As a DIYer I love your videos, and I love the engagement of professionals commenting on them. You guys have built a really educational online community and it's helping me know where to even begin with some stuff. Don't know how people did it in the old days, flying blind and hoping not to burn their houses down!
You guys are awesome. I just had a new service installed after a tree pulled down my service and damaged my weather head. New service is 200 amp and got a sub panel added to my new shed. I am confident on running cables and wiring my shed myself and I know how to do it right. Thanks
Great job guys and Love the way you help each other out which helps us all out.
I just learned more than I have in a long time my friend! VERY NICE JOB BOYS! I tip my hat to y'all!
I enjoy all of your videos,still to hesitant about doing any kind of electrical repairs at my mom home! House very old,build in the mid 50s,but I've learned a lot from you guys!! Dad and son working together, love it!!!
Your work is right on.I enjoy watching your videos and picking up good work habits. Keep up the excellent work.
I love the thoroughness, very good.
Just came across this channel a few days ago....not only did I sub but first time ever hit that bell to get upload notifications. Love the deep description and available knowledge in your videos guys! 👌
I learn somthing new every time. The wide is always the neutral! Electrical Receptacle: Wide = white
If you watch The Handyman he always says 'white to bright, black to brass'.
That's not true. Sometimes the white is reidentified. For example in a switch loop. It is very dangerous to assume the person before you knew what they were doing and did it right. That is how you get shocked
@@dakotbeastj He is talking about on a receptacle. A switch is a totally different subject.
@@illestofdemall13 got ya. I misread
@@dakotbeastj No problem, but you made a good point about wires in general. Never assume. We must check to see what each wire is doing, rather than just assume it is what it should be.
Man I wish I knew a few of these great tricks before I did my 5 full renovations. Thanks for your work and above all, your attention to detail.
On that thin Stanley, I like to put shrink tube on the shaft for added safety.
Ahh! Love the after credits scene! :) “Now what?” I think we’ve all been there...
Catching up on all of your videos. I am a residential/industrial maintenance manager and love these episodes. Thanks.
An exciting video!
I liked the content quite a bit since from where I am from, all buildings are made of block & mortar or concrete with preplaned pvc piping for the wiring. Which makes it a bit difficult or messy to reroute any sort of wiring to another place, but makes changing wires easy as EMT piping.
But what I really took home is the format of this video, in comparison to the excitement others bring with quick cuts to finished product, where you can see the work, the sweat, the tired faces, and the slow pace. It brings the human to the Studpack, made of real people and not actors pretending to work.
Hope I get the idea of what I'm trying to say through. Not at all saying to change anything, but a remark of what I noticed.
mr. paul, you're more patient, competent and professional compared to some journeyman electricians ive seen. they're always rushing.
best instructional and demonstration video ive seen on YT.... excellent information
Love your attention to detail! Thanks for sharing.
So considerate of the next guy! Love your work ethics!
The side cutter as a level is a thing that every mechanic learns when doing drum brakes 👍👍👍
I would like you to know it's awesome That Jordan is working beside you and thank you for posting all the very informative RUclips video .
I have watched a lot of master election work and your on track with your wiring 😁
Fantastic content. This is really great information for the DIY guy. I appreciate your hard work, attention to detail, and time spent providing this content! Love the electrical knowledge, tips, and tricks. Cheers!
Thx walker 👍
On behalf of electricians everywhere.... Thank you for putting the junction boxes up high.👍👍
Thx Ralph 👍
Fantastic video as always guys. Thanks for the great show!
I appreciate you going over the difference between a cable and a wire. So many people get mixed up with it.
Great video as always. Great teacher.
I love how everything is done step by step and easy to understand😃
Great tip about cutting in middle of romex. Been working with it a long time and never considered that.
Also great tip on 5/16th driver on wire nut.
As a master electrician, I prefer nobody but me touches the wiring so I know what was done and that it was done right. I never "back stab" outlets cause it's lazy and produces a poor connection. I've gone to houses and have found melted outlets caused by back stabbing. Very common problem. When working live, I always disconnect the ground FIRST. this way it eliminates the shock hazard while holding the metal part of the outlet. FYI, twist your splices so when the wirenut falls off you don't lose the connection.
Journeyman here, One tip that I think would help people alot is to see whether or not that wire is long enough to go right over to the outlet location so that you avoid having to make a junction box in the attic
Don't worry some people are full of it you gents work as I said second to none simply great may God continue to bless you and your family well done
Hands down, this was the best video I've seen in a long time. Well done, I appreciate old school.
Glad you enjoyed it Bob thx!
Outstanding guys!
Man you did all the work already. Just run new circuits and have the electrician sign off on them.
You know that’s what he did.
@@richardwinstanley2014 😂
Yeah, this is what I was hinting at preciously. 😂
Wish we had electrical contractors here that would allow us to do the work and then just sign off.
Not sure if I would have videoed everything though 😉, you never know what may happen later.
For sure he knows what he’s doing, and I assume the licensed electrician is willing to take the liability.
Good work as always
@Bo Diddly , not only that, but as a pro, if you see something wrong, you’re required to fix it.
You guys bear a heavy burden.
I never use the receptacle device for connection of neutrals always pigtails. I don't depend on the device to continue the circuit.
You are a natural teacher.
Thx Robert 👍
I'm in Singapore for the last 10 years, and have come to appreciate the 240v single phase circuits here..
Because the voltage is doubled, the current is cut in half, making the need for heavier gauge wires unnecessary.
Secondly, the wall-plugs on appliances are physically bigger, but also safer to grab and remove from the sockets and seat better in the wall sockets.
Any 110v stuff I have can be run through a step-down transformer or a variac.
Really appreciate your professional clear and precise explanations you are a great teacher thank you. I definetly Smashed the like button 20 times. I also appreciate you work with your son and he also explains well, chip off the old block you should be very proud of that young man.
I love how you explain, slowly, clearly step by step. Good job.
Thx Jaime 👍
I’m so impressed by you guys! I started watching you guys super early on, just for novelty, now I am researching to get my contractor’s license to learn more.
Cool 👍 best of luck to you 👊
I always enjoy your videos. Great practical content with excellent tips. I always lose weight watching you running around, up and down, here and there. Thanks! My doctor is even impressed!
thanks for your teaching, may God bless you. keep up the great work.
Just got my Stud Pack cap in. Love it. Thanks. Fellow Electrician. Tx
Cool thx 👍🇺🇸
Love the tips & tricks, just wish I was young and could remember them. Loved the ending!
great video, I am currently in a pre-apprentice electrical program and always find your videos relevant. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Much appreciated Rudy👍
Good stuff guys. I had the benefit of apprenticing in the electric trade when I first joined the work force decades ago. Although I ultimately chose a different career path Electrical and building have always been transferable skillsets that I've applied some aspect of in nearly everything I've done. A lot of people don't know or understand electrical but when you do, even if your not licensed it can become an asset for yourself and others. Good job at demonstrating how some knowledge can be used in a safe practical way. In a way you basically did what an apprentice would do who's primary function is to help the journeyman or master electrician and you did it well. I honestly wish everyone had this practical knowledge and would love to see knowledges of the trades taught in schools. I feel it's part of being a modern human. :)
Really enjoyed this one! Thanks stud pack.
I always mount the attic junction boxes to the rafters and attach my coiled wire there as well using a zip tie with the screw hole makes it easy to attach it to the rafter….. as up north we spray in insulation that can be 16” deep and all cover plates are identified as you do … great video
My favorite new RUclips channel 4 SURE!! Thank y'all for all of the high-quality information served with just a "dash of cayenne pepper".
Cheers from Shreveport, LA , Fellas!
& Keep up the good work !
Inspirational, entertaining AND done very safely! A+++++++++
R.B. Owen / I.A.T.S.E. Local 478 / Motion Picture Studio Mechanics / & "and, 'yes' : ALSO an electrician, for the all the nicer folks in "make-believe-land" & beyond... If we don't like the local electrical codes, we just have a Script Supervisor "amend" them: permanently! Cheers!
Lol, love the ending.... nice going Jordan, your dad was like, "Oh shit"!
You are a very good teacher. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
With that said. I am a big fan of your work.
Paul and Jordan, you two are great dudes. Enjoying the vids!!
Thanks Arnold!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing!
Back stabbed connections held
go 40 years. Interesting.
Thank you
Wonderful video showing
excellent workmanship.
It's likely the receptacle was replaced more recently. The gang box is probably original though.
If had to guess the wire isn't the original either a lot of homes from that era used a cloth covered wiring or aluminum wiring.
Like I've said before, I've been an electrician for 40yrs. as of this year and you do better than many of the licensed hacks I've encountered over those years. Another tip for ya... Anchor J bxs 18-24" on any accessible framing member of an attic if possible vs. anchoring low and possibly being hid by insulation. And always staple within 6" of a non-metalic box and 12" within a metal box. Thank you for conveying the differences between a wire and a cable and a wire cap vs. a "nut".!?! If an apprentice were to look in a order catelog for wire "nuts", they would get lost. I understand that it's not a big deal for the non-electrician, but for such a specific terminology based trade, it's encouraged at the professional level. You'll find that in the IBEW schools as well. I agree Paul, Ideal's Tan Twisters are a must have. Granted, Yellow and Red caps are an essentual part of an electrician's arsenal, but, Tan Twisters are a great suppliment. Again.. great video!
Plenty of people in the industry use the term "wire nut"....agreed it's functionally more of a cap than a nut, but it's definitely industry standard lingo
I like that trick with the tape and the cable. Sweet
Great video stud man..... I am an electrician for 43 years....just do it!
if you dont have a tiny flat head you can twist and pull to get them out of the push ins.
When you have wires that long (or even if not,) there’s no excuse for not just snipping off the wires where they enter the backstabbers, because the backstabber has damaged the exposed wire end and it should be discarded.
Agreed Declan. Sometimes I'll cut off the stripped end because the original electrician used lineman pliers to strip the wire (or the wrong spot on the wire strippers) and nicked the wire which easily breaks off due to fatigue.
man this work looks so much nicer to do than slab work.
I believe the 'knockout" in the blue device box is actually to be bent back and will act as a wedge to keep the wire from being pulled out by accident, earthquake or if the house shifts.
Loved these tips
Good honesty leaving in that last part :)
Excellent Info. You have a beautiful family!!
GREAT VIDEO
I LOVE HOW YOU EXPLAIN EVERYTHING.
Full Send bro SNF vibes! ty for the video very therapeutic who dat forever! Love the electrical videos!
Man I wish the demo guys where I'm at would take half of the initiative that you take to make the remodelling process that smooth. I'd love to be working on jobs you've been on! You're a real skilled tradesmen.
Awesome job.
I screwed up doing a kitchen reno when I was demoing some cables. I thought I turned them off at the breaker and was to lazy to test them. I just snipped both cables at once and it was quite the pop lol.
That klein tool for removing finishing screws the best one to buy is that is the two in one instead of buying two of them with its own tip, One flat and one Philips combo, I bought mine at the home depot , All I have to do is turn around the double side-it tip to whatever I need.
@18:20 Huh. that's something I never knew! usually they come off easy enough, but it's good to know! Oh, and that electrical tape pre-staging is just brilliant.
I have a friend who is certified as an electrician but not a licensed electrician. He did the wiring for his house, paid the licensed electrician to look at it & make sure everything was good, then had the electrician give the power company the green light to turn the power on.
Whenever I have people come to do work (which isn't often), I try to make things easier for them if I can.
I'm somewhat of a hoarder so I wouldn't throw out cable even if it wasn't very long because you never know when it might come in handy. Especially with the prices these days.
Love your videos!!!
You most likely receive a tremendous amount of recommendations because of your great work
and good name.