Many people know the Robin Hood of literature from Howard Pyle, but here in Finland the more well-known Robin Hood author than Pyle is English teacher John Finnemore, who normally wrote some scout fiction for scout magazines. Instead, Pyle is quite unknown in Finland and there is no translation of Pyle's book, which is also a strange phenomenon when normally Pyle seems to be the most well-known everywhere else. Finnemore harmonized and wrote the ballads into a coherent story and even incorporated snippeds from the ballads into the text. The weak point of Finnemore's book, however, is perhaps that the setting of the story does not stay in one place, but the outlaws constantly wander between Barnsdale and Sherwood. But Finnemore's book and its translation can be credited with making Robin Hood known here in Finland.
Just like in the Princess Bride, there were many many men known as The Dread Pirate Roberts, and it added to the legend that he was unkillable and so strong he lived an unnaturally long life. Made him more of a legend. Robin Hood fits in this way as well, IMHO.
I am hoping my recollection is correct. My family and I were living in England in 1989 to 1991. We took our son to Sherwood Forest. We were having lunch in the eatery there and a tall, strapping actor very similar to Robin in “Robin of Sherwood” came in in full costume, spotted our son, walked over, and said “hello” to our boy. Our son almost slid down under the table. But it was great seeing a close approximation to the actor on TV. That “Robin” was a good example. Obviously, we still remember him to this day. Enjoy your pint of ale. Best wishes for Christmas Day, Boxing Day, and New Years!
It sounds much like the legend of Wyatt Earp. Most stories focus solely on his time in Tombstone and his role as a U.S. Marshal. It was not until Kevin Costner made his three hour epic about Wyatt Earp that we finally got a comprehensive look at the man behind the myth. Although, I will say Tombstone starring Kurt Russel is still the more succinct of the two retellings of his story. Regardless, truth is stranger than fiction and it is amazing to think he really did go his entire life without ever being struck by a bullet, even when being shot at directly in the open. I have not seen Costner's take on Robin Hood but if it is not the same as he did with Earp it would be great to see someone give us the story of Robyn Hode for a change. Maybe starring a dashing RUclips lad, clad in bright green?
Kevin Costner’s version of Robin Hood was a film that was very of its time and kind of comes off as silly. The dialogue in it is legendary for being so bad that it’s fun to watch with Alan Rickman’s Sheriff of Nottingham delivering the silliest words ever written. Wyatt Earp is a good comparison but don’t get so hung up on historical accuracy as I think we should be more forgiving of fictionalized versions of Earp as a lot of what has been written about him, and even by him, is still highly debated.
Really like this longer video style, it would be great to have links to your stories and tales so that we can do more reading on it. You have SUCH a way of explaining folk-lore like real FOLK :)
Interesting video. I've lived with Robin Hood legend all my life as my grandfather was born in Nottingham. I have other ancestors from Wakefield, so both venues covered
I recall reading a theory that Maid Marian started out as a separate character unrelated to Robin Hood, based on a medieval source talking about fairs featuring "some merry fytte of Maid Marian or else of Robin Hood", implying that they might have been two separate figures of medieval folklore who were merged together during the later reworking of the Robin Hood character for the upper classes.
Scarlett stuffs loot into his own purse Robin: "Wot ye doin, Will? We're s'posed to give to t' poor!" Will: "Well...We're poor." Robin: "Fair enough. Gimme my cut."
Speaking of more modern versions, it's about time to indulge my very recent but much-enjoyed Christmas Eve tradition, and settle down to read Steven McKay's "Friar Tuck and the Christmas Devil".
I think Maid Marion was sort of in the early medieval ballads: Robin is devoted to the Virgin Mary in them, but after the reformation that became a bit suspect so she morphed into Marion: same name and a “maid” at the time was a virgin. Great post though and very interesting.ive subscribed and looking forward to future videos
@@TimothyDH thank you so much, really do appreciate your support 🙏🏻 I get what you’re saying, mate but I meant more the ‘love interest’ aspect of the character. Which went hand in hand with the more romanticised nature of the storytelling of the later and post medieval periods. Which we eventually see evolves into the ‘hero gets the girl’ trope. Marian made her way into the later stories, mostly by way of the later medieval May games festivals. Interestingly, in one of her first appearances, her real name is Matilda. Just like the real life wife of Robert Hood. She later adopts the name Marian as an alias once the Robin Hood character is outlawed.
@@andrewgcrowhurst the disinherited noble/fallen knight narrative was heavily influenced by the real life exploits of Fulk fitz Warrin and Robert fitz Odo.
The forest at that time extended from Lancashire in the west across the Pennines down through Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire the forest were felled for the royal fleets of the Tudor reigns
Yeoman were free men who possibly owned land or paid rent rather than owing their lord service. I assume a forest Yeoman had land or rights within forests. Able to fell timber and collect firewood for their own profit.
I still believe that Robin Hood is from Nottingham that’s just me and I you believe he’s not but he will be always be my mystical friend merry Christmas my friend all the best ⚓️🧲👍😂💙🇬🇧
there was a Frair Tuck mentioned in history but he was probably based in Lindfield West Sussex and he and his men committed crimes along Surrey and West Sussex
It's a good day when Robin Hood uploads 🏹
Many people know the Robin Hood of literature from Howard Pyle, but here in Finland the more well-known Robin Hood author than Pyle is English teacher John Finnemore, who normally wrote some scout fiction for scout magazines. Instead, Pyle is quite unknown in Finland and there is no translation of Pyle's book, which is also a strange phenomenon when normally Pyle seems to be the most well-known everywhere else. Finnemore harmonized and wrote the ballads into a coherent story and even incorporated snippeds from the ballads into the text. The weak point of Finnemore's book, however, is perhaps that the setting of the story does not stay in one place, but the outlaws constantly wander between Barnsdale and Sherwood. But Finnemore's book and its translation can be credited with making Robin Hood known here in Finland.
Just like in the Princess Bride, there were many many men known as The Dread Pirate Roberts, and it added to the legend that he was unkillable and so strong he lived an unnaturally long life. Made him more of a legend.
Robin Hood fits in this way as well, IMHO.
I am hoping my recollection is correct. My family and I were living in England in 1989 to 1991. We took our son to Sherwood Forest. We were having lunch in the eatery there and a tall, strapping actor very similar to Robin in “Robin of Sherwood” came in in full costume, spotted our son, walked over, and said “hello” to our boy. Our son almost slid down under the table. But it was great seeing a close approximation to the actor on TV. That “Robin” was a good example. Obviously, we still remember him to this day.
Enjoy your pint of ale. Best wishes for Christmas Day, Boxing Day, and New Years!
I think Robin of Sherwood did it so well, The show feels the truest
Nothing's forgotten; nothing is ever forgotten
Herne protect us
God, I miss that show.
I loved that damn show 👍🎄 May Hern the Hunter live forever! ! ! 🦌
It sounds much like the legend of Wyatt Earp. Most stories focus solely on his time in Tombstone and his role as a U.S. Marshal. It was not until Kevin Costner made his three hour epic about Wyatt Earp that we finally got a comprehensive look at the man behind the myth. Although, I will say Tombstone starring Kurt Russel is still the more succinct of the two retellings of his story. Regardless, truth is stranger than fiction and it is amazing to think he really did go his entire life without ever being struck by a bullet, even when being shot at directly in the open. I have not seen Costner's take on Robin Hood but if it is not the same as he did with Earp it would be great to see someone give us the story of Robyn Hode for a change. Maybe starring a dashing RUclips lad, clad in bright green?
Kevin Costner’s version of Robin Hood was a film that was very of its time and kind of comes off as silly. The dialogue in it is legendary for being so bad that it’s fun to watch with Alan Rickman’s Sheriff of Nottingham delivering the silliest words ever written. Wyatt Earp is a good comparison but don’t get so hung up on historical accuracy as I think we should be more forgiving of fictionalized versions of Earp as a lot of what has been written about him, and even by him, is still highly debated.
Always fun to learn more stuff.
Happy holidays and I wish you already a good new year lad. From your overseas neighbours from the Netherlands!
Your happiness and passion are contagious! I really hope you keep on doing these longer vids, they're a delight ❤
Although I tend to only see your shorts due to the algorithm, I have to say I enjoyed this long form video. Big up
Really like this longer video style, it would be great to have links to your stories and tales so that we can do more reading on it. You have SUCH a way of explaining folk-lore like real FOLK :)
I like how you examine all the Robin hood legends. Very interresting, how time shifts story telling.
Interesting video. I've lived with Robin Hood legend all my life as my grandfather was born in Nottingham. I have other ancestors from Wakefield, so both venues covered
I recall reading a theory that Maid Marian started out as a separate character unrelated to Robin Hood, based on a medieval source talking about fairs featuring "some merry fytte of Maid Marian or else of Robin Hood", implying that they might have been two separate figures of medieval folklore who were merged together during the later reworking of the Robin Hood character for the upper classes.
Scarlett stuffs loot into his own purse
Robin: "Wot ye doin, Will? We're s'posed to give to t' poor!"
Will: "Well...We're poor."
Robin: "Fair enough. Gimme my cut."
Speaking of more modern versions, it's about time to indulge my very recent but much-enjoyed Christmas Eve tradition, and settle down to read Steven McKay's "Friar Tuck and the Christmas Devil".
Hope you enjoying your holidays man i love your channel
This' a most fascinating story.
It is being great to learn more about the history of Robin Hood through your narrative.
Great Video!
So much knowledge in a clear, consice form!
A merry yuletide Robert hood of Wakefield ❤
Ah that Dastardly Prince John
I love these videos. Keep up the great work mate and merry christmas!
Merry Christmas legendary outlaw. 🏹
This is very interesting. Love, it explains a lot of awesome
Fascinating video thankyou
Ay up, lad! Great piece, dismantling the myths to get to the legends 😉
Thanks for the stories, Robin.
Happy Christmas Robin. To you and all your Merry men.
@@harryfurphy1491 cheers brother 🙏🏻 merry Christmas to you and yours
Good night God Bless and Merry Christmas 🧑🎄🌲
Cool video👍
Merry Christmas lads!
I think Maid Marion was sort of in the early medieval ballads: Robin is devoted to the Virgin Mary in them, but after the reformation that became a bit suspect so she morphed into Marion: same name and a “maid” at the time was a virgin. Great post though and very interesting.ive subscribed and looking forward to future videos
@@TimothyDH thank you so much, really do appreciate your support 🙏🏻
I get what you’re saying, mate but I meant more the ‘love interest’ aspect of the character. Which went hand in hand with the more romanticised nature of the storytelling of the later and post medieval periods. Which we eventually see evolves into the ‘hero gets the girl’ trope.
Marian made her way into the later stories, mostly by way of the later medieval May games festivals. Interestingly, in one of her first appearances, her real name is Matilda. Just like the real life wife of Robert Hood. She later adopts the name Marian as an alias once the Robin Hood character is outlawed.
Starting in York, I think it's interesting that the fallen knight narrative that is added matches the saga of grandad Sir Walter deScotney
@@andrewgcrowhurst the disinherited noble/fallen knight narrative was heavily influenced by the real life exploits of Fulk fitz Warrin and Robert fitz Odo.
Class👌👌
What are your favorite early Robin Hood ballads? I have an interest in medieval and renaissance music.
Liked and shared you out to my friends ⚓️🧲👍😁🇬🇧
The forest at that time extended from Lancashire in the west across the Pennines down through Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire the forest were felled for the royal fleets of the Tudor reigns
Dude, what's your workout routine?
What is a "yoman" of the forest?
Yeoman were free men who possibly owned land or paid rent rather than owing their lord service. I assume a forest Yeoman had land or rights within forests. Able to fell timber and collect firewood for their own profit.
I still believe that Robin Hood is from Nottingham that’s just me and I you believe he’s not but he will be always be my mystical friend merry Christmas my friend all the best ⚓️🧲👍😂💙🇬🇧
there was a Frair Tuck mentioned in history but he was probably based in Lindfield West Sussex and he and his men committed crimes along Surrey and West Sussex
It's like the brothers Grimm vs the Disney version.
The original Anarchist, Robin.
I'd argue Robin was closer to Diogenes in that he was apathetic to the systems of society rather than directly opposed to them.
Depends on the type of anarchy we are discussing.
That's ridiculous.
@@t.j.payeur5331 you're ridiculously uncreative.
I don’t think you know what the word anarchy means.
When the truth becomes legend print the legend
Oh! So it IS christmas!
You're in love with that bollock dagger, ain'tcha? 😜
God Jul matey.
_The Hooded Man_
Robin Hood and the Green arrow would get along with each other they both have bows 🏹 and dress in green 🟢