SPOILER! I thought it was interesting that the movie was a bit more grounded in reality and didn't get "weird" until after Patterson's character fell from the light house while painting. Perhaps this was his death, and the rest of the movie was him living out purgatory until he was cast out of heaven (the light) and down to hell (the final scene).
PornoMagnum I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen a film gather this many theory’s and pieces put together for those theory’s. I never even thought of this and this is the 90th different one I’ve seen and they all make sense lol I’ve done a lot of reading and I’ve seen the film twice, there’s no doubt pattinsons character was in purgatory, everything else is perspective
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD I definitely think the ambiguous topics in this movie is much better in this then in under the silver lake but that is also kinda the point in under the silver lake is that we as people are obsessed with things that don't matter or lead us anywhere
Sorry that purgatory thing makes no sense at all, and on top of that it's pretty boring as a reading, like ok, forget all the psychological elements, jungian constructs, freudian imagery, expressionist presentation, sexual subtext, power dynamics etc. it's just the afterlife that's weird because it's weird
HAAAARK! HARK! Triton, Hark! Bellow, bid our father the sea king rise from the depths, full foul in his fury! Black waves, teeming with salt foam to smother this young mouth with pungent slime. To choke ye! Engorging your organs, til ye turn blue and bloated with bilge and brine and can scream no more. Only when he, crowned in cockle shells, with slithering tentacle tail and steaming beard, take up his fell befitted arm, his coral-tined trident screaming banshee like in the tempest, and plunges right through your gullet. Bursting ye! A bloated bladder no more, but a blasted bloody film now a nothing for the harpies and the souls of dead sailors to pick, and claw, and feed upon, only to be lapped up and swallowed by the infinite waters of the Dread Emperor himself. Forgotten! To any man, to any time, forgotten to any god or devil, forgotten even to the sea. For any stuff or part of Winslow, even any scantling of your soul is Winslow no more, but is now, itself, the sea!
Great analysis. I agree that this film is a masterpiece. I absolutely adore the final shot in this film as it cemented my belief in a Promethean theme that became real when Pattinson's character reached the top of the lighthouse. I also drew comparisons to the entire setting as a purgatorial pursuit, where Pattinson has to manage everything that was dealt to him as a test from the divine. He claims all he wants is to save up money and find a nice home and settle down, and at one point Dafoe's character says encouraging statement along the lines of "Keep up the hard hard and you'll be manning your own lighthouse in no time," (which I interpreted as "You'll make it into heaven"). Throughout the story we see him fail with lust, murder, gluttony, etc. And finally at the end of the film he attains fire and thus fails the final test, which then subjects him to the final scene where I believe his liver was eaten by the bird as a form of eternal damnation (Prometheus). That is simply my first impression and I cannot wait to analyze the movie more closely on a second viewing. Please do make more videos on this film. I would love to hear your analysis on anything from the symbolism to the cinematography or sound design. There is so much to talk about. You also already taught me about orthochromatic filters and gave me a new appreciation for just how much work went into the cinematography of this film so I must thank you for that. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
I definitely saw the post-mortem trials of purgatory theme, too. Also more mythological Greek aspects beyond those regularly mentioned. The boat dropping them off at the beginning as Charon's, bringing the newly deceased across the river Styx to the land of the dead. Shades of Oedipus in the end when the young man kills the old man and takes his place possessing what the elder had been married to and loved most. So many little bits. Will likely find all sorts which were missed, after further viewings.
It's a very complex film, one of those films that will take years to process and people will still be asking questions about decades later. The great films do that.
To add yet another layer of confusion to this movie, what we see is only from the perspective of Winslow/Howard's addled and drunken mind and isn't necessarily what is actually happening. What is seen isn't necessarily what is to be believed.
Although there are obvious aesthetic references to the Greek myths I don't think the actual story can be understood in their terms. After all, Howard wasn't stealing any light for the benefit of anybody, but aspiring to achieve salvation by reaching it at all. My own thought is that while we are meant to consider some of the symbolic or metaphoric references and their significance, the events of the story are both unique and independent of those symbols. All of the elements mix to make a satisfying folk tale, but the Greek references are more like icing on the cake than a key to understanding the core of the story.
I hope they bring back nosferatu and this man is to be studied the parallel between the lighthouse and the witch in terms of dialogue and the usage of animals in it aswell as the mythological references in them. This man is a genius.
This is the first legitimate great analysis I've seen. I saw the film in cinemas when it came out and found the simple allegorical analysis of the Triton tale to be quite dull. I was shocked no one tackled the sexual aspect which was obviously important, and thankfully, you did! I'd love to hear your thoughts more in depth on it.
Wow, absolutely fantastic review/analysis, far beyond that of any other video I’ve found on RUclips discussing this movie - discussing the themes and practical parts of the movie and how it contributes to immersion and how it compels the audience in the story of these two men’s delve into madness, and makes the audience question what’s real and if the mystical elements are truly what’s happening to Winslow or simply as a result of his drunken madness and isolation. This truly is a film that needs to be experienced in the cinema and is, as you said, a genuine, true work of art, one that is testament to Robert Eggers command of telling compelling disturbing period pieces - and a film that certainly doesn’t suggest its only his second film to date. Apologies for the pretentiousness but I can say with confidence that this is by far my new favourite film of all time with so much to unpack and leaving a great lasting impression on its audience. Great review - you certainly don’t seem like a fake critic to me!
Been looking for a good analysis of The Lighthouse since I saw it, and after watching yours I can tell that you know a lot about film and have a lot of love for it. Subbed!
Heavy "Hour of the Wolf" influence for sure, but "Persona's" DNA is all over this film for me, and that's one of the things I love about it. Thanks for watching!
I was reluctant to watch discussions on this movie. I was scared of only finding viral-aspiring guys screaming "HEY GUYS WHAT'S UP" jovially into their microphones. That is the case with every video except for this one. Thank you for being down to earth and level-headed when discussing this masterpiece! +1 subscriber. Also, I would love to watch another video on this film if you're feeling up for a deep-dive. I'm sure you have much more to say, perhaps about the symbolism and your interpretation.
Its about judgement. Re-watch the burial scene with subtitles on. Tom explains what's going on, just like in the Witch, when by the brook Thomasin explains the ending.
awesome analysis, personally I can go as far as to stay maybe its one of the best films ever made in film history.... in which every element is not only perfect, but also very memorable and extremely powerful. I'll mention my favorite: when Pattison's character runs away from the mermaid, you hear the mermaid scream along with the lighthouse foghorn, in a macabre duet.... what a touch.... Also I dont know if anyone has realized but it sounds like they combined the foghorn sound with an ethereal organ-like drone to give it some 'enchantment' :) ; Personally for me it is details/subtle touches like these that make a movie memorable, and not so much the subject matter....
Cengiz Eren it is my favourite horror film of all time, now the film becomes a whole lot more terrifying when you realize pattinsons character is really In hell
Given your fantastic, comprehensive and (dare I say it) beautifully written and enunciated review, I'm stunned that you don't have more subscribers. You earned one from me, however! I will be eagerly watching for more of your inspired analysis.
Hey, this is the first of your videos I've ever seen, but I really enjoyed how in depth you went with your review! Definitely going to keep up with your content as it comes out
Great review! To me, there are dozens of readings of the film. Many reviews I have seen simply just explain the plot and symbolism without actually saying what the film does or says about those things. I believe it’s a film about judgement. The light of the LIghthouse looking down in these two somewhat immoral men as they fail to improve themselves together as companions and fall into toxic and immature competition and lust for power, desire, and the truth of the light. It deals with guilt and even generational divides, as well as the divide between master and worker. Eggers seems to suggest that these men go mad and violent against each other because they are too flawed to see the light 100%. In modern society, we fall into in-fighting and toxic masculinity rather than work together for a higher goal.
Just saw it last night and not too sure if I really liked it or hated it. Maybe I need to see it again. The Lighthouse was incredibly atmospheric and contained amazing cinematography. It is definitely open to individual interpretation. The main reason for me wanting to see this movie, was that it contained certain Lovecraftian elements. Like most of Lovecraft’s stories, The Lighthouse is slow moving and a bit confusing. But the premise of people descending into madness is a very Lovecraftian concept. The visualisation of malevolent, unexplained phenomena is used to great effect in this movie. The subtle imagery of tentacled creatures that popped up a couple of times, together with some very weird and loud sound effects made me think of ‘THE OLD ONES’ from ‘THE CTHULU MYTHOS’, which feature so prominently in many of Lovecraft’s stories. Merely to gaze at the blasphemously hideous creatures that are featured in Lovecraft’s stories would lead to insanity or suicide. These were thoughts that were going through my mind as I watched this movie. Anyway, that is my interpretation.
I thought The Witch was probably the best movie of the decade as well, and although The Lighthouse didn't impress me as much at first, I'm increasingly appreciative of how complex it is. The Witch is brilliant in its simplicity, whereas in The Lighthouse, it's very lack of simplicity is maybe it's principle virtue. So far, your review is the best I've seen. Here's a link to my own review: ruclips.net/video/38z2yYWwBKg/видео.html
Honestly I went to watch the lighthouse. I was confused asf no to mention I could barely understand these guys with their pirate talk. I’d give it a B for casual people. You should go in knowing some Greek mythology or else you’ll be confused as hell. You probably still will be lmao
nolan bennett On the contrary. Without at least knowing some things the ending makes no sense and no real way of putting it together. I’m avoiding spoilers.
@@edwardperez3535 Disagree, anyone can make up their own interpretation. I didn't need to know the exact beats of the story of Prometheus to think that Pattinson went up to the light and was rejected by it, fell down the stairs and then the next shot is his personal hell as envisioned by Dafoe in a scene prior. Sure, it might add to one's enjoyment if you get the reference but it's not necessary. Ignoring the fact that you don't even need to be knowledgable about greek mythology to have come in contact with Promtheus' punishment, since it's referenced constantly in tons and tons of media. It's like with Beethoven's 5th. You might not know it by name but everyone recognizes some of its melodies because of how engrained it is into our culture.
SPOILER!
I thought it was interesting that the movie was a bit more grounded in reality and didn't get "weird" until after Patterson's character fell from the light house while painting. Perhaps this was his death, and the rest of the movie was him living out purgatory until he was cast out of heaven (the light) and down to hell (the final scene).
PornoMagnum I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen a film gather this many theory’s and pieces put together for those theory’s. I never even thought of this and this is the 90th different one I’ve seen and they all make sense lol
I’ve done a lot of reading and I’ve seen the film twice, there’s no doubt pattinsons character was in purgatory, everything else is perspective
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD Under The Silver Lake is more ambiguous
CrappyMcDick disagree
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD I definitely think the ambiguous topics in this movie is much better in this then in under the silver lake but that is also kinda the point in under the silver lake is that we as people are obsessed with things that don't matter or lead us anywhere
Sorry that purgatory thing makes no sense at all, and on top of that it's pretty boring as a reading, like ok, forget all the psychological elements, jungian constructs, freudian imagery, expressionist presentation, sexual subtext, power dynamics etc. it's just the afterlife that's weird because it's weird
HAAAARK! HARK! Triton, Hark! Bellow, bid our father the sea king rise from the depths, full foul in his fury! Black waves, teeming with salt foam to smother this young mouth with pungent slime. To choke ye! Engorging your organs, til ye turn blue and bloated with bilge and brine and can scream no more. Only when he, crowned in cockle shells, with slithering tentacle tail and steaming beard, take up his fell befitted arm, his coral-tined trident screaming banshee like in the tempest, and plunges right through your gullet. Bursting ye! A bloated bladder no more, but a blasted bloody film now a nothing for the harpies and the souls of dead sailors to pick, and claw, and feed upon, only to be lapped up and swallowed by the infinite waters of the Dread Emperor himself. Forgotten! To any man, to any time, forgotten to any god or devil, forgotten even to the sea. For any stuff or part of Winslow, even any scantling of your soul is Winslow no more, but is now, itself, the sea!
Aleph Null Alright, have it your way.
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@@acronscawlernc6697 hahaha. Classic.
I'ma send this to my enemies.
Great analysis. I agree that this film is a masterpiece.
I absolutely adore the final shot in this film as it cemented my belief in a Promethean theme that became real when Pattinson's character reached the top of the lighthouse.
I also drew comparisons to the entire setting as a purgatorial pursuit, where Pattinson has to manage everything that was dealt to him as a test from the divine. He claims all he wants is to save up money and find a nice home and settle down, and at one point Dafoe's character says encouraging statement along the lines of "Keep up the hard hard and you'll be manning your own lighthouse in no time," (which I interpreted as "You'll make it into heaven"). Throughout the story we see him fail with lust, murder, gluttony, etc. And finally at the end of the film he attains fire and thus fails the final test, which then subjects him to the final scene where I believe his liver was eaten by the bird as a form of eternal damnation (Prometheus). That is simply my first impression and I cannot wait to analyze the movie more closely on a second viewing.
Please do make more videos on this film. I would love to hear your analysis on anything from the symbolism to the cinematography or sound design. There is so much to talk about.
You also already taught me about orthochromatic filters and gave me a new appreciation for just how much work went into the cinematography of this film so I must thank you for that.
Keep up the good work. Cheers!
I definitely saw the post-mortem trials of purgatory theme, too.
Also more mythological Greek aspects beyond those regularly mentioned. The boat dropping them off at the beginning as Charon's, bringing the newly deceased across the river Styx to the land of the dead. Shades of Oedipus in the end when the young man kills the old man and takes his place possessing what the elder had been married to and loved most.
So many little bits. Will likely find all sorts which were missed, after further viewings.
Thank you so much for watching! This comment is fantastic, and it'll definitely open the film up more for me the next time I watch it!
It's a very complex film, one of those films that will take years to process and people will still be asking questions about decades later. The great films do that.
To add yet another layer of confusion to this movie, what we see is only from the perspective of Winslow/Howard's addled and drunken mind and isn't necessarily what is actually happening. What is seen isn't necessarily what is to be believed.
Although there are obvious aesthetic references to the Greek myths I don't think the actual story can be understood in their terms. After all, Howard wasn't stealing any light for the benefit of anybody, but aspiring to achieve salvation by reaching it at all. My own thought is that while we are meant to consider some of the symbolic or metaphoric references and their significance, the events of the story are both unique and independent of those symbols. All of the elements mix to make a satisfying folk tale, but the Greek references are more like icing on the cake than a key to understanding the core of the story.
I hope they bring back nosferatu and this man is to be studied the parallel between the lighthouse and the witch in terms of dialogue and the usage of animals in it aswell as the mythological references in them. This man is a genius.
The film, reminds me of 2001: A Space Odessey, there is so many possible theories!
This is the first legitimate great analysis I've seen. I saw the film in cinemas when it came out and found the simple allegorical analysis of the Triton tale to be quite dull. I was shocked no one tackled the sexual aspect which was obviously important, and thankfully, you did! I'd love to hear your thoughts more in depth on it.
Wow, absolutely fantastic review/analysis, far beyond that of any other video I’ve found on RUclips discussing this movie - discussing the themes and practical parts of the movie and how it contributes to immersion and how it compels the audience in the story of these two men’s delve into madness, and makes the audience question what’s real and if the mystical elements are truly what’s happening to Winslow or simply as a result of his drunken madness and isolation.
This truly is a film that needs to be experienced in the cinema and is, as you said, a genuine, true work of art, one that is testament to Robert Eggers command of telling compelling disturbing period pieces - and a film that certainly doesn’t suggest its only his second film to date.
Apologies for the pretentiousness but I can say with confidence that this is by far my new favourite film of all time with so much to unpack and leaving a great lasting impression on its audience. Great review - you certainly don’t seem like a fake critic to me!
Been looking for a good analysis of The Lighthouse since I saw it, and after watching yours I can tell that you know a lot about film and have a lot of love for it. Subbed!
Thank you!
Bergman-esque. I’m glad someone else agrees. I definitely got some “Hour Of The Wolf” vibes at times. Great review!
Heavy "Hour of the Wolf" influence for sure, but "Persona's" DNA is all over this film for me, and that's one of the things I love about it. Thanks for watching!
Nothing fake about you, friend. Great breakdown.
I will be pre-ordering this movie on Blu-ray, and I am absolutely subbing to this channel, great review
I was reluctant to watch discussions on this movie. I was scared of only finding viral-aspiring guys screaming "HEY GUYS WHAT'S UP" jovially into their microphones. That is the case with every video except for this one. Thank you for being down to earth and level-headed when discussing this masterpiece! +1 subscriber.
Also, I would love to watch another video on this film if you're feeling up for a deep-dive. I'm sure you have much more to say, perhaps about the symbolism and your interpretation.
Its about judgement. Re-watch the burial scene with subtitles on. Tom explains what's going on, just like in the Witch, when by the brook Thomasin explains the ending.
You are correct, Dafoe is Proteus as well
awesome analysis, personally I can go as far as to stay maybe its one of the best films ever made in film history.... in which every element is not only perfect, but also very memorable and extremely powerful. I'll mention my favorite: when Pattison's character runs away from the mermaid, you hear the mermaid scream along with the lighthouse foghorn, in a macabre duet.... what a touch.... Also I dont know if anyone has realized but it sounds like they combined the foghorn sound with an ethereal organ-like drone to give it some 'enchantment' :) ; Personally for me it is details/subtle touches like these that make a movie memorable, and not so much the subject matter....
Cengiz Eren it is my favourite horror film of all time, now the film becomes a whole lot more terrifying when you realize pattinsons character is really In hell
Far and away the best breakdown I’ve seen on this movie. Or for that matter any movie... certainly the best movie analysis I’ve seen on RUclips.
I have a feeling I will like it. Enjoyed The Witch. To hear your enthusiasm after viewing this one makes me want to see it more!
When I heard you thought the which was the best horror of the decade, I have to ask, what’s your entire opinion on Hereditary? Great review
Man this deserves more views. Very well written review!
Given your fantastic, comprehensive and (dare I say it) beautifully written and enunciated review, I'm stunned that you don't have more subscribers. You earned one from me, however! I will be eagerly watching for more of your inspired analysis.
This is a fantastic review and analysis, I’m so happy this channel exists.
Hey, this is the first of your videos I've ever seen, but I really enjoyed how in depth you went with your review! Definitely going to keep up with your content as it comes out
Great review! To me, there are dozens of readings of the film. Many reviews I have seen simply just explain the plot and symbolism without actually saying what the film does or says about those things. I believe it’s a film about judgement. The light of the LIghthouse looking down in these two somewhat immoral men as they fail to improve themselves together as companions and fall into toxic and immature competition and lust for power, desire, and the truth of the light. It deals with guilt and even generational divides, as well as the divide between master and worker. Eggers seems to suggest that these men go mad and violent against each other because they are too flawed to see the light 100%. In modern society, we fall into in-fighting and toxic masculinity rather than work together for a higher goal.
Ive seen this film over 25 times now, and this is exactly what its about, not even a theory anymore, I know nearly every line in the movie
One thing I would point out is Dafoes character is greek god(Proteus) and keeper of the light
loved him since i saw the witch cannot wait to see how awesome he becomes in the future!
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Just saw it last night and not too sure if I really liked it or hated it. Maybe I need to see it again. The Lighthouse was incredibly atmospheric and contained amazing cinematography. It is definitely open to individual interpretation. The main reason for me wanting to see this movie, was that it contained certain Lovecraftian elements. Like most of Lovecraft’s stories, The Lighthouse is slow moving and a bit confusing. But the premise of people descending into madness is a very Lovecraftian concept. The visualisation of malevolent, unexplained phenomena is used to great effect in this movie. The subtle imagery of tentacled creatures that popped up a couple of times, together with some very weird and loud sound effects made me think of ‘THE OLD ONES’ from ‘THE CTHULU MYTHOS’, which feature so prominently in many of Lovecraft’s stories. Merely to gaze at the blasphemously hideous creatures that are featured in Lovecraft’s stories would lead to insanity or suicide. These were thoughts that were going through my mind as I watched this movie. Anyway, that is my interpretation.
Who else is excited to see Pattinson Don the Cape and Cowl as The Caped Crusader?
Anticipated this movie and it definitely lived up to the hype. Eggers is a bad man!
Also enjoyed your review, the best one I’ve watched. Subscribed🤠
Great breakdown, hyped to watch this tonight! Love your knowledge on cinematography as well.
Love all the research and analysis that went into this. Top-work.
*reads thumbnail and the title*
Me: you can say that again.....
What's your audio editing process? like programs, effects you add to your voice (like compression eq, noise reduction), and what mic do you have?
Glad I found your channel, awesome review. Well done.
Wow that was really good man. Got a sub here.
Fell here for some mysterious reasons. Brilliant video, suscribed!
Fav is scary stories to tell in the dark of this year
"Shot with no cover". The Hell does that mean!? Great channel by the way
great review , said everything i was thinking , i cant wait till im able to form my thoughts and analyze movies like this broo !! 😤😤
Only 500 sub's...man you deserve more
Excellent analysis man.
Dude you speak very well. Subscribed yo!
You sir have a great taste for cinema.
What’s the music?
Great movie! And great video you have made!
Gave you a 👍 cause yo voice sound like Willi Smith.
Would love that deepdive sometime
I really wanted to watch this, but the music continuously blocking speech was too much of a headache trigger. Thumbs down for blocked speech.
It shot off the coast of Massachusetts. Big mistake
I thought The Witch was probably the best movie of the decade as well, and although The Lighthouse didn't impress me as much at first, I'm increasingly appreciative of how complex it is. The Witch is brilliant in its simplicity, whereas in The Lighthouse, it's very lack of simplicity is maybe it's principle virtue.
So far, your review is the best I've seen. Here's a link to my own review: ruclips.net/video/38z2yYWwBKg/видео.html
You're the best!
Holy shit, dude, this was awesome. You need more acknolwedgement
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Awesome review! Check out our channel as well just did the lighthouse too!
Honestly I went to watch the lighthouse. I was confused asf no to mention I could barely understand these guys with their pirate talk.
I’d give it a B for casual people. You should go in knowing some Greek mythology or else you’ll be confused as hell. You probably still will be lmao
I don't really think you need to go into it knowing anything about mythology. the movie works and makes sense by itself
nolan bennett On the contrary. Without at least knowing some things the ending makes no sense and no real way of putting it together. I’m avoiding spoilers.
@@edwardperez3535 Disagree, anyone can make up their own interpretation. I didn't need to know the exact beats of the story of Prometheus to think that Pattinson went up to the light and was rejected by it, fell down the stairs and then the next shot is his personal hell as envisioned by Dafoe in a scene prior. Sure, it might add to one's enjoyment if you get the reference but it's not necessary. Ignoring the fact that you don't even need to be knowledgable about greek mythology to have come in contact with Promtheus' punishment, since it's referenced constantly in tons and tons of media. It's like with Beethoven's 5th. You might not know it by name but everyone recognizes some of its melodies because of how engrained it is into our culture.