Debunking the Myths Surrounding the Golden State Warriors Super Team
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Kevin Durant joined the Golden State Warriors in the summer of 2016 to kick off an era of sheer and total lack of competition. But there are some myths circulating around that Golden State team. Namely, that Steph Curry was a co-best player on that team, and that LeBron James was the best player in those series. In this video, we will take a closer look at the first Warriors Kevin Durant championship in 2017.
LeBron fanboys say he can guard 1 through 5 but he couldn't 🛑 KD
Again, this is 100% the case. I mean, he tried to guard Durant in those series. He just got cooked.
Yo an LeBron had help in Cleveland too I'm tired of that narrative.
He couldn't even stop Jason Terry in 2011 Finals.
@@meekmeads 💯😂😂
L take. Level the playing field, Lebron stomps KD. That doesn’t make Lebron the goat so chill, but he is better than curry and KD. KD played with no pressure those years on the most stacked team of all time, he had so many wide open lanes to the basket because of the coverage demanded by the shooting on that team, all he had to do was spot up, transition pull up, occasionally iso against someone not named Lebron. If you actually watched the games, which you obviously didn’t, you’d only find a couple clips of KD scoring on Lebron, but you’ll find plenty clips of Lebron literally just running through KD.
I can't believe someone has actually spoken the truth about one LeBron James. Rare thing indeed!
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Lot of people forget warriors gave up their depth to get kd which was a huge reason they were 73-9. cavs coulda won the series kd just got the job done
Absolutely. That series was way closer than people care to remember. Just like that 2007 finals when the cavs got swept by the spurs. Ultimately in the times that mattered most, Lebron just failed.
bro thinks Harrison Barnes and fucking Festus Ezili = 73-9 holy casual
2017 cavs were underrated especially kevin love who was a double double machine and Kyrie was elite. They also had solid players like JR and Thompson, iman and added Kyle korver, Channing Frye etc. Bron fans act like they were some underdog or garbage
This is correct. The cavs were up in the fourth quarters at some point in games 3, 4 and 5. The warriors won 2 of those 3 games because Kevin Durant soundly outplayed Lebron in those fourth quarters. Revisionist history wants to make those series unfair to excuse Lebron for more finals losses.
LeGoat stans act like Love wasn't a West starter, and Kyrie the All Star game MVP the summer Bron ran back to CLE lol
@@sunshinehwy EXACTLY. Absolutely, cleveland was a super team.
@@skap_attack🤣🤣🤣 super team LMFAO.
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I been saying this since 2017. Those finals were fair and even, warriors didn’t play that well and it came down to KD vs lebron and he busted his ass.
Absolutely. It’s totally revisionist history in giving Lebron a couple more excuses as to why he’s 4-6 in the finals.
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Love the work, especially when you’re banging on that bum Lebron. Ease up on my warriors haha….
@@skap_attack I’m actually going back and forth with a bronsexual now about last nights game. How Lebron was trash. 1-11 last 2 games 3PA and the only stater with a minus (-6) and Had to bring AD back in the game 4th quarter.
@@judahmourneth3211 lol There is not doubt Lebron is a bum. Thanks for watching 🙏
@@judahmourneth3211 Lebron was one of only 2 lakers who played in the game last night that had a negative +\- for the game. He was the only starter that a a negative plus minus and had the worst plus minus on the team. Anthony Davis is so clearly the best player on that team, on both ends of the court.
Not a big KD fan either, but as Steph and Warriors fan, I'll always appreciate him. Whatever people may say about the 2017 Warriors, they were such a great team. Doesn't matter to me how they got together, what matters to me is that the team managed to set aside their egos and work together long enough to get two championships.
I was actually rooting for Lebron when he went up against GSW KD. It was strange that he did not take it upon himself to guard KD 1v1 through the series.
The 2017 series was winnable. Those teams were evenly matched.
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@@skap_attackno it wasn’t bro.
Another fantastic video. All points I've been making since he joined the warriors. Wish he could've won 3 in a row. I still to this day talk about how both of those teams were fairly matched top to bottom and like you said, the difference was the top two players in the 4th. Warriors Durant in my opinion was when he was clearly the best player in the league. I argue that he was since he took OKC to the finals but what do I know lol
Appreciate not only the work you're putting into your videos but the time you take out of your day to respond
I agree with KD, if he had won 2 titles in OKC with Westbrook he'd be in my top 20 All-time list, offensively he's that potent.
Multiple things are true:
Warriors heavily recruited Durant
Durant went to a super team
Lebron don't get to complain because he built super teams
Lebron deserves all the Ls he got
Yes, yes, yes and yes. Oh and one more yes. All five things accurate.
Only thing I disagree with is The 2nd KD made them a Superteam Prior they were a Well Built Squad
I remember they were both superteams but Durant was just the better leader and closer
100% correct. Warriors had Irving averaging 25 in the regular season and playoffs that season, along with Kevin love averaged 19 in the regular season and 17 during the playoffs. Warriors averaged 119 per game in the postseason, cavs averaged 116.
Leader lmfao 🤣
@@MagicMan69171 if Snake D didn't accept the Warriors begging, I mean, recruitment, Curry wouldn't even be considered top 15 all time because he would've been owned by LeChoke's superteam the next two years after blowing the 3-1 lead in the finals lmao
They only say they was unbeatable cause LeBron lost to them and lame fanboys have to many excuses for him getting cooked by KD
100% spot on.
@@skap_attackYou do know theu went 16-1 that postseason, right?
@@andrewcook1246 I do. I’m well aware. The warriors were 12-0 coming into the finals from the west conference. DID YOU KNOW the cavs were 12-1 coming out of the East??? Two stacked and unbeatable super teams, cumulative record in that postseason in their conferences of 24-1 😂. And the cavs 2-4 players were every bit the equal to the warriors if not better. Kyrie shot a higher percentage in that finals series than curry from the field, from 3 and from the free throw line while outscoring him. Kyrie averaged 30 per game on 47%. But KD shit on Lebron head to head. That was the difference.
and just looking at what gsw had overall cmon now
@@skap_attack again picking and choosing when to bring up the strong west vs eat thing u love to use to discredit bron
Credit where credit is due! Love it bro KD is my favorite player, maybe not his decisions to jump teams but against leflop any day better
I love you for this video. Oh my god. Thank you!!!!!
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I’m not going to lie, I was happy KD went to GSW because this would prevent Lebron from winning more championships. Was going to GSW a punk move from KD? Oh yes but I did not care. I was enjoying all those Lebron fans crying. Also after that decision, Lebron was noticeably quiet all off-season and that’s unusual because he’s such an attention whore. He knew all his supporters couldn’t help him. He couldn’t dodged those questions during training camp. 😂
I was in the total same mindset. The thing that made it all the more enjoyable for me was Lebron created the super team. Thanks to him, Durant thought it was ok to go to golden state. So basically Lebron took rings off his own hand by cheating to get his first two. It was such a satisfying irony.
@@skap_attack That last sentence 😂. I enjoyed every moment. 😂😂😂
We know why he's been criticized so heavily in the media and in nba fandom. He disrupted what the media and lebron fans thought was going to be wins in the next several finals after coming back on gsw in 16.
Bingo 🛎. Lebron left his first decaying super team in Miami and built a fresh new shiny one that could steal him some more cheap ass rings. But then Durant built a better super team 😂. You have to love the irony of it all
Recruitment is more respected than running away
I agree. But KD never goes there without curry opening the front door.
Kyrie vs Curry isn't really fair when Curry is gravitationally enabling the Durant vs Lebron comparison.
Durant's lack of success anywhere else other than Golden State proves it, he doesn't generate such insane production when he isn't playing in the freedom of Curry's gravitational opened space.
We dont discredit Curry for needing to recruit Durant because he didn't need to. He won without Durant, He literally proved it wasn't the key factor to winning or not for him. Winning is the most important thing, so he'll still do it to make winning as surefire as possible, but it isnt a necessary prerequisite to winning in the first place.
Thank u kd don't
Have that high percentage true shooting anywhere else without steph curry
exactly people read stat boards and think thats the full story lmao
The idea that the 2017 warriors were unbeatable only came up after lebron lost the series. Prior the media actually favored lebron and the cavs to win
2:35 the Spurs were definitely a serious contender that year, the Warriors got to won easily only after Zaza injuring Kawhi
Also, in the 60s Wilt played tougher competition nightly because there were half the amount of teams that there are now. So the talent distribution was not as wide as it is now.
I know if kobe ever had half the snipers that the warriors had he would have gone crazy in a finals too
Stop letting KD off easy.
No fuckinh way you think this…
The only thing i disagree with is your take on curry. Durant was only as efficient because curry was the only one guarded insanely everyone else besides maybe lebron got a ton of iso situations. One series doesn’t make a player better than another but Durant took advantage of ty lu’s scheme which was to take curry out of it. And he still almost averaged a triple double as a small point guard. Also let’s not act like Kobe wasn’t considering leaving the lakers when they weren’t being a competent organization. Kobe also tried to get melo to the lakers. Nobody can win alone so let’s not run that narrative. And MJ arguably had the most compentent GM of all time. I just think everything needs full context because if not we are just as bad as the players and media creating an inaccurate narrative. Still like your content skip. Even though you’re a curry hater.
First That’s another Narrative “KD was wide Open” when Kd Got the fewest Wide open Shots at 27.8% (a Defender within 4 Feet to defend)Ahile Curry got a 55.7%/Thats Why I said Ty Lue is the most Overrated Coach I’ve seen.We’re Talking about ‘17 first bc Kyrie Outplayed Steph only Difference was KD outplaying Bron in the 4th..YOUR TALKING ABOUT ‘18 where the Cavs Had No Ky someone to Match Steph Output so they Oversold(the same team that Gave up Open Lanes for Dunks)Bc Bron could Match Kd Until it came to the 4th But Kyrie was a 29PPG scorer and that’s Gone…so it makes Sense to Try to Limit One threat But not stating Why is Disingenuous.Bc if I Asked U “What Guard Could Match Steph” in ‘18 who would U say????bc they didn’t Double Steph in ‘17 bc they had Kyrie
Yeah lebron maybe joining superteam before just like kd join the warriors, I mean lebron return to cavs and won championships and kd doesnt do the same thing as he return to okc to won championship, Lebron is definitely better
He wasn’t better in those series tho lol. Definitely not the 2017 season. The ironic thing is Lebron started the super team era by going to Miami and he did it again when he went back to Cleveland. But if he didn’t do it first, KD woulda never went to golden state. Lebron played a big role in helping create that warriors super team he couldn’t beat.
And bron traded wiggins for Kevin love who was one of the best power forwards in the league that time and averaged 26 in his last season with the wolves.
@@tj5180 also spot on. Love averaged 26, 13 and 4 his last year with Minnesota. And he was third in league wide PER that season behind only (in order) Kevin Durant (the mvp that year) and Lebron James. Love was second team all nba that season only because Lebron and Durant both played forward and had the first team slots. Keep in mind love became the third best player on that team. Definite super team
Laker was not super team who was the 3 guy.
The warriors the greatest team ever by a very large margin they won 73 games the season before ( the most in nba history) and only lost in 7 because the greatest player of all time and kyrie went crazy. then they added kd on top of a 70 win team and he fit perfectly without messing with anything the warriors were still deep, they still played the same motion offense, they got better on defense and kd was a perfect fit who made his teammates better. He put offensive load off curry, kept less attention on klay and made draymond more effective because he had another guy to pass to. The warriors had 5 hall of famers on that team and a good bench. they had 4 all nba level defenders, a DPOY, two MVPs in their prime, 3 of the greatest shooter of all time and last but not least they were light years ahead of everyone else due to their 3 point oriented system and pace of play no other all time team in history would ever be able to beat the warriors because they cant keep up with the warriors scoring.
Thank u and this idiot say the finals in 2017/5 games were closer than people say gtfo he just a lebron hater his whole page lebron lives rent free in his head
KD is better than Lebron will ever be despite forming superteams.
KD is not better than LeBron just a better scorer that’s all not a better player
and bron averaged 34/12/10 off 56% and 39 from 3 without having curry to take pressure off him not to demish kd but if we go back and watch actual game footage curry was being doubled alot of the time and was more heavily gaurded then kd allowing durant to get more space and score more ur also forgetting draymonds defensive abilities and his role on the warriors as well as iggy being key off the bench durant was a beast but no he was not better than bron
and its crazy how u chose when to ignore or use weak east context to fit ur narrative
u know ur kinda proving how crazy brons final comp is
kyrie 29 ppg, outscored greatest shooter ever curry on better fg%.
love and klay both had 16 ppg.
JR outscored draymond.
big difference was KD lit up Lbj with 35 ppg on 56% and 47% from 3, after averaging 25 ppg for the season and Rounds 1-3 combined, an incredible +10 PPG increase in volume. So much for Lbj guarding 1-5.
@@scoop2448 ur ignoring the gravity of curry during those finals also curry was the primary target on defence for the cavs not KD which freed up durant for a lot of easier lanes. and klay had better efficiency than love did draymond role was never a scorer he's arguably the most versatile defender oat and won dpoy that year
@@scoop2448 but this is what happens when u get all of ur ball knowledge from base stats and skap takes curry is a threat from 30-35 teams out so teams have to over play him and send put all of their defensive attention on him giving easier driving lanes and taking scoring pressure off KD
A KD video defending him by taking shots at LeBron for doing it the easy way lol
I literally just made a video hitting KD. Posted 6 hours ago 👌
If LeBron has the opportunity to join GSW he would. Hes already openly admitted as much.
@@phillipcummings3518 I know Mike said he'd never leave the Bulls or ask for superstar players but the truth is he wasn't in a position to do so. And the truth is with his vitriolic hatred of Jerry Krause its very likely Jordan dips to another team or recruits guys if the rules allow so.
James could've joined the Warriors 2-3 times by now. They don't want him or more likely you are putting too much stock into what he says. I love James but athletes look like idiots every tine they ooen their mouths.
@@phillipcummings3518 BINGO 🛎️
You have absolutely no idea how to evaluate Steph. Kd benefitted from his gravity just like Kobe benefitted from shaqs. Kobe was nowhere near the player Steph is and you’re under media mind control as much as these lestans
Bwhhahahahahahahhahahahah!!!!! Kobe scored more than Steph in an era where average pace of play was SIGNIFICANTLY lesser than it is today. Points per game was 15-20 points less in Kobe’s prime than it is now 😂. AND Kobe took the number one defensive assignment. Steph is not remotely close to Kobe.
Kobe dominated in those playoffs. He was also their closer and best perimeter defender like those spurs series he torched them and averaged 35 vs the kings
@@tj5180 in the 2000-01 playoffs Kobe averaged 29.4 points per game. The laker averaged 103 as a team. Kobe scored 29% of his teams points. If you want to throw in assists, he averaged 6.1 assists. So he accounted For 40% of the offense while leading the way on defense. Always taking the hardest assignment. Steph curry in 2017 scored 23% of his teams points, averaging 28.1 of his teams 119 per game. Throw in assists and he accounted for 35% of his teams offense. And he was fourth or fifth best perimeter defender. Ohhhh and Durant led the Warriors in 4th quarter scoring while Kobe led the lakers in that metric. Who are these 16 year old clowns who don’t know anything about Kobe coming in here saying Kobe was nowhere near the player of Steph. Completely absurd.
@@skap_attack own those kobe haters. Kobe was called the best player in 2001 and 2002 for a reason even by shaq
@@tj5180 I’m working a Kobe piece right now actually. Likely be done with it tonight or tomorrow. I’m barely even going to talk in it. I’ll just let other all time greats do the talking and explaining to these hater scrubs.
I agree with every word and every take of every vid wtf. 🫡
Haha I appreciate you 🙏❤️