History of Fenrir Greyback: From Wizard to Werewolf - Harry Potter Explained
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re discussing notorious werewolf Fenrir Greyback- digging in to his past and uncovering some things that you may have never known.
Believe it or not, once upon a time, Fenrir Greyback was just a regular wizard. He didn’t have sharp teeth, long yellow nails, whiskers, or hair sprouting from every part of his body. He also didn’t transform in to a horrible, dangerous magical creature when a full moon filled the sky.
There is speculation out there pertaining to whether or not Greyback was ever a wizard at all. But as it happens, Rowling has confirmed that ONLY wizards are able to transform in to werewolves after being bitten by one, and that muggles simply die. This (if it wasn’t clear already) confirms the fact that Greyback was indeed a wizard.
In fact, though information on him is sparse, the available evidence would suggest that Greyback was perhaps even once a student at Hogwarts just like Harry, Ron and Hermione. This fact would explain his magical skills, his connections within the Death Eaters, and his hatred of ‘normal wizards’.
But on one fateful day, presumably after his wizarding education had finished, wizard Greyback (who likely was already of dubious morality) had an encounter with a werewolf where he was bitten.
At this moment Fenrir was infected with Lycanthropy by the un-named werewolf, a magical affliction that transforms witches and wizards in to werewolves. One who is infected with Lycanthropy is henceforth known as a ‘Lycanthrope’.
There are two ways to become a Lycanthrope, but regardless of HOW it is contracted, it is still considered to be a curse (for which there is no cure) that will completely alter the victims existence.
The first (and most common) way to contract Lycanthropy is through being bitten by a werewolf, though in some circumstances the bite can/will kill you. You must also be bitten by a werewolf in their wolfish form at the time of the full moon- ensuring that the werewolf’s saliva mingles with the victim’s blo*od.
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How about early life of Lucius Malfoy ?
The Marauders and the map of Hogwarts. It’s really sad that by the end of Book 7, all 4 of them are dead.
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I'm really disappointed that it wasn't Lupin who defeated Greyback, ending the suffering he knows so well and finishing the call for justice his father had first spoken. Something about Greyback having somewhat of a point considering werewolf equality, but nothing justifies attacking small children. Being a werewolf does not define you as less human.
Greyback became pure evil.
Harry should have died. Neville should have taken part in fighting Bellatrix. Lupin should have lived long enough to at least duel his nemesis. So much wrong was done in book 7.
Grayback: “bite them young”
Chris Hansen: waves wand “take a seat”
One of my biggest issues with the Harry Potter series was the last battle and Harry and gang not killing their enemies. Call me evil if you want but I would have been like Molly and not have left an enemy who is TRYING TO KILL ME to keep doing it. Greyback needed to go, period. There should have been more parents there protecting their children.
Yass.. Leave no crumbs 👏🏾
That's one of the biggest things I disliked about the series in general; thousands of capable, trained adults, and yet they refuse to freaking act. They outnumbered the Death Eaters by at least 500-to-1, and instead would rather shove the responsibility for winning an entire war onto a *child.* Wizarding British society is beyond effed up.
Chug yourself some SkeleGro and grow a spine, and STAND UP AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY.
@@alexisgrunden1556 I loved that! Lol Drink some skelegrow! Yeah to put everything on a child was beyond me.
True. Like if people aren't going to stop trying to kill you... might as well kill them...
In all fairness guys, many many witches and wizards were already being killed. And considering the fact that people were still afraid because of the war 13 years prior, they decided it'd be easy to just have more kids than to try and save those. And also Molly is a very capable witch. Anyone who was even remotely capable either switched sides to the death eaters, or they were killed or went into hiding assuming that the war was already lost. But these are all speculations. I would've loved to see the final battle to be filled with witches and wizards from all over. Only problem i think is, most people didn't even know about the battle until after it was over.
When your parents decide to name you Fenrir, after the Norse wolf Fenris, they are kinda setting you up to become a Werewolf :D
Facts
Thats what i was thinking
I like to think that this is not his real name, but one he choose.
@@il8612 Considering there is a character in the series called Hestia, after the Greek Goddess of the Hearth, I think it's his real name.
Dude who hates werewolfs with all his existence, who wished them nothing but death in open public, has the lastname "Lupin".
In fact, muggles could become werewolves too. They were just very less likely to survive a werewolf bite, so there werent much muggle werewolves around.
For some reason, the American werewolves in London seem to be resilient.
True enough.
In "Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery", though, there is an example of a Muggle Werewolf -- Penny Haywood's Muggle friend Scarlett Sparks was bitten by a Werewolf, though hopefully not by Fenrir Greyback, and survived the bite, though she also had to cope with the shame and isolation after being infected with Lycanthropy and becoming a Werewolf.
Many werewolves like Scarlett Sparks, Chiara Lobosca, and Remus Lupin keep their condition a secret and try to get by with their lives as best as they can. Fenrir Greyback really brought a lot of the Werewolf's bad reputation upon them and every other Werewolf by setting out to infect as many children with Lycanthropy as possible.
Wolfsbane Potion is a recent invention by Potioneer Damocles Belby. While it can't cure Lycanthropy, it can help a Werewolf maintain control over his/her/their lucidity during their transformation. Because sugar and sugar substitutes cancel out the effects of Wolfsbane Potion, the Werewolf has to drink it pretty quickly to not dwell on the taste so much.
id love to imagine greyback took wolfbane potion specifically so he could keep the memories of what he did in his wolf form
I was just thinking the same thing. He EATS people in his human form, I can't even imagine how much more dangerous he'd be with his wits about him while he's transformed.
I don't know if Fenrir Greyback ever took Wolfsbane Potion or not.
Wolfsbane Potion allows the Werewolf to maintain control over himself/herself/themselves during his/her/their transformation and was a recent creation, though it can't be taken with anything sweet, not even sugar and sugar substitutes, or the effects will be neutralized.
It was said that because he enjoyed it that he could transform at will so I believe he could remember anyway.
the wolfsbane potion wasn’t invented till mid to late ‘80s and it was a difficult potion to make, so it’s unlikely he had access, but it’s possible there was a competent potion maker in the death eaters group..
Killing Greyback with an unforgivable curse... may actually be forgivable. Especially seeing as what he did.. Poor Lavender.
I couldn't agree more. I made a song about him on my RUclips channel. Enjoy it.
@@Mr.Kerr-cade Will do :)
I mean...he went to hogwarts specifically to eat children when he was *not* in werewolf form. At the least, he was a cannibal child murderer.
Like, please Crucio him.
The part where you talked about the trial that Greyback had for killing those kids, and Lupin’s dad’s outburst, were never mentioned in the books. All Lupin said was that his dad had offended Greyback and he bit Lupin as a result. Thanks for adding that tiny bit of lore to the story. I listen to books 3 and 6 all the time.
If you look at Remus’ backstory on the official wizarding world site it actually gives the info about his father’s outburst.
@@Aprilsweet4 Thanks I have to check that out.
So Finrir's endgame was to have werewolves conquer the wizards. So I guess if Voldy won, it'd eventually come down to a war between Finrir's werewolves VS the Death Eaters.
Voldemort would have exterminated him
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It's been so long since I've read the books it never occurred to me to ask why Remus was a werewolf. I just accepted the fact and moved on. But now hearing the backstory and knowing the truth it's heartbreaking that happened to him and at such a young age.
Read books 3 and 6. In Book 3, Lupin talks about when he was bitten, how there was no cure for the bites and infection, and how Dumbledore made it possible for Lupin to come to Hogwarts as a student when no other headmaster would have allowed it. He talks about how he found out it was Greyback who actually bit him, and Greyback’s behavior after he himself got infected, in Book 6. Pretty much everything said in this video was told in the books. I love Lupin’s voice in the audiobook versions narrated by Jim Dale.
It’s really interesting. It took me a while to link the 2 stories together. I think it took me 3 times listening to the audiobooks to finally sink in.
Actman more like trash man
@@EricasTouchdang, for me that's several points against the audiobooks because the first time I read them it was obvious
Something I've never understood is if once the wizard transforms into a werewolf, he loses the sense of right and wrong and seemingly not remembering who his friends are (e,g., attacking friends in the Forbidden Forest), how could Greyback be in such control of who to attack in wolf form (e.g., seeking out Remus as a child)?
He'd stalk his potential victims then just before he transforms he'd make his way to the victims house to ensure that he attacked that house first.
He can just take the werewolf potion so he is mostly in control during his transformation
He’d most likely took wolvebane potion
Its literally explained in book that he stalks his victim at full moon night so when transform he will close to them.
Wolf bane potion gives werewolves control over their actions during moons.
The greatest defense against werewolves in the wizarding world is to not name your kids with wolf sounding names.
The actor David Legeno, who played Fenrir, died in Death Valley in 2014 at age 50. His body was discovered by other hikers.
don't you say
@@raveniaelhoran2647 I think the idiom is "You don't say." But, yes, that's what's been reported.
On a somewhat related note, I still think that Voldemort would exterminate all werewolves if he would have won.
he probably would.
I'm sure he would have tried, I mean he can't stand anybody with muggle blood, so i'm sure he would consider werewolves inferior
You are right about that as well.
I really liked this deep dive into the warewolves' life in the world of Harry Potter.
Werewolves*
i think option 3 book version is that after greyback was left disabled in the battle of hogwarts, that someone likely killed him. He ruined countless lives on a level that any of the death eaters scarcely could even rivial. so it would not be hard to imagine that seeing him defenenceless during the battle that someone may have put an end to him once and for all to make sure this terrible man could never harm anyone ever again, whether that comes from a place of personal experiment with family or friends affected by his actions or a sense of justice. Also while stunned the chaos of the battle with the numerous beasts like arcomantula included he may have been killed by the falling of debries or perhaps a hungry young arcromantula that saw an easy meal. It would be fitting with the latter if greybacvk did meat his end at the hands of a hungry spider like he did to so many others.
One of the biggest villains of the Deathly Hallows book and movies
Video idea for you to do:
What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
Light up and warm a forest around you, and pass along messages that's about it
I've always wondered what would happen if Voldemort gets bitten by a werewolf? Would the curse affect him in any way or would he be immune given how much dark magic was already surrounding him?
Good question 🤔
The first thing that would happen is the werewolf would feel kinda sick and then feel very very dead... As for what would happen to Voldemort I have no freaking clue what kind of wolf snake man mutant you would end up with on a full moon.
Honestly I would not want to know what happened lol
I wanna know
Never ever thought of that man, that's actually a pretty cool rabbit hole to go down.
ok but like how adorable would a little baby werewolf be?? :D
I would say that Greyback's hatred, especially of children, points to his transformation being done as a child...perhaps even as late as 10 or 11...right before going to Hogwarts. He would have been TAKEN after his parents were killed...and it would be easy to manipulate his feelings for OTHER school age wizards toward hate.
In his motives to warping young children into werewolves was likely reflective in how he was treated himself.
So, there's an evil werewolf...a father figure that's a murdering werewolf..that is behind Greyback's insanity.
The super close-up on the movie actor for Greyback is so funny to me. He has al this hair on his face, but has clearly shaved his mustache/goatee area. 20:20
Muggles can be werewolves a boy who cried werewolf van hellsing and an American werewolf in London. Etc.
Strange how greyback and other deatheaters were somehow able to destroy the Millennium bridge a whole 15 years before it was even conceived let alone built. 🤔🤦
4 years
The dates don't add up!
The construction on Millennium was in the news the summer that the attack on Brockdale happens in HBP in 1996! Dates do match up perfectly.
Anyone else feel like Fenrir is more intimidating than voldemort in every way?
I think Fenrir Greyback would be hunted down along with his kind by The aurors or Muggles.
I've said this before. Your hypothesis is very plausible. I love your theorizes!
There's potential in a series with Fenrir as the villain.
I think it is a bit of a plot hole that werewolves lose all sense of themselves to the point that they would kill their own friends and family when transformed, yet fenrir was somehow able to remember to get revenge on people who had wronged him and formulate plans that he carried out as a werewolf.
He would go to the victim’s house then transform
Fenrir is also the only werewolf who can control himself when he transforms idk if its because of his power or cuz he is more animal than man anyways
The latter more likely, though the former also holds true.
17:11 at first I thought Hermione's Stinging Jinx was cruel. But when I understood that she did it to protect him my mind was changed.
What about vampires?
Yeah, would love to know more about them.
Sanguini was at Slughorn's Christmas party. Apparently vampires in this world are not so different than regular wizards in that they still age and die of natural causes, and while they can practise magic it's not known if they have any innate abilities like the vampires of folklore.
@@kingnova6408 Sadly JK stated that since there is already so much lore about vampires she did not want to add more, so its unlikely she will ever explore that part of the HP world.
@@barbiquearea They are known to be cruel and violent.
Muggles don’t always die if bitten, in the order of the Phoenix, when mr. Weasley was bitten by nagini and was in hospital, we see remus go up to a muggle who was bitten and was mentioned more than once
exactly some muggles survive and some wizards die, wizard usually have longer lifespan than muggles so there could be higher resistance, but the survival of werewolve-bite can go either way, for both muggle or wizard, it´s just that a wizard body is way way way more likely to survive....all of this not regarding the amount of injury, that the werewolve brings you alongside the actual bite, which is highly likely to shift the possibillity of survival^^
the man that was bitten by a werewolf in St mungos was a wizard not a muggle, the mention of the muggle in St mungos was a guy that had some fingers bitten off by a bewitched muggle artifact and he had come in to have them regrown and his memory modified
Funny how many names represent their personality in the series. Like Fenrir, that is literally a norse god in form of a wolf. An offspring of Loki deemed to devour Odin.
I've always wondered if there was ever a good Werewolf one that retained their memory even in Werewolf form
Why didn't Greyback have a wand? He was a wizard after all. And never confessed to his status so it wouldn't have been broken by the ministry. Did I miss something? Or did he refuse to use it according to his hate for wizardkind?
When you do something illegal you lose your wand, so he counted on wandless magic.
@@elenastanica4621 Yes I know. But he never admitted to be a werewolf. So there was no official reason to take his wand.
@@trolletuva That was before the 1st wizarding war, he was caught around 1970, we see him fighting in 1995-1998. He was caught by Lupin's father.
@@elenastanica4621 In the video he was in a hearing with Lupins father present. HPT says he was wandless. That was before he was revealed. And I know he was eventually found out.
@@trolletuva It could be that he never got one if he was a werewolf and since childhood, and that maybe Dippet was headmaster.
i have a headcannon that the reason remus lupin was scared to pass down the curse to his child because once you get bitten by a werewolf and survive and become a werewolf your DNA changes and can pass it down in your descendants.
Those years doesn't go with me, as Fenrir was born 13.1.1945 (saw it somewhere). If he was really born 1945 he attended Hogwarts in 1955 and ended his attendance in Hogwarts assuming he was bitten shortly AFTER graduation which was in 1962. So he was bitten around his 17 max 18 yo. Somewhere I read Fenrir started resenting wizarding society after Lyall's insensitive wording during trial with Fenrir pretending he's muggle; which held place in 1965. This had to string something painful inside of Fenrir's heart because he decided to bite Remus, not Lyall as a revenge. So I assume he was probably disowned by his family due to his lycantrophy and Lyall's words reminded him this. In Fenrir's head was probably: "You said that werewolves are all monsters and deserves to die. So how will you like if you'll have your own son being turned into werewolf?" By the way, RIP the great David Legeno, who portrayed Fenrir Greyback and made his character exclusive. Especially in HBP. (If there could be any replacement for Dave I'd think about Khabib Nurmagomedov but he's not an actor but retired fighter in octagon :D Dave was both :D )
Lavender Brown lives in the books, but is killed in the movie
So Brown is a wolf!!!
Voldemort is just human nature hating his own since his is half blood as well
This guy sounds more interesting than Voldemort tbh 😮
After the things he has done, I can completely see Ron or Nevil killing him, he ruined Lupen and many more lives and had no remorse. Those are the types you take down for keeps.
Absolutely. There's no guarantee that Fenrir Greyback would not have bitten one of Harry's and Ginny's future children, one of Ron's and Hermione's future children, one of Neville's and Hannah's future children, Draco's and Astoria's son Scorpio, etc. had somebody not brought him down.
But I thought Lupin was scared of passing the curse to his son... So it's possible Fenrir was born a werewolf.
Lupin was scared because wizarding world doesn't teach anything about genetics. And also nothing about birth control or talking with my wife if we wants to have a kids. :D At least not back in 80's and 90's where is all HP story dated
He was afraid of passing the curse to his child because werewolves having offsprings was unprecedented. They were never known for breeding. He would therefore have no idea if he would pass the curse on to his son by way of genetics.
No. Fenrir Greyback was bitten by a Werewolf and chose to bite and spread Lycanthropy to as many children as possible.
Remus Lupin is scared because he doesn't know that Lycanthropy is only transmissible via bite wounds and that his and Nymphadora Tonks Lupin's son Edward "Teddy" Remus Lupin would not inherit Lupin's Lycanthropy.
I can't vouch for two Werewolves actually being able to mate and procreate while they're in their Wolf forms. If they are, their puppies would look so cute.
Could a witch drawn powers from a werewolf heart?or give a pack of wolves a heartache from one werewolf heart.
Tonks was so beautiful.
Muggles can actually turn into werewolves but it’s extremely unlikely for the reason you explained.
i guess it might depend if the muggle has a recent squib ancestor in their family line
Out of the villains tho he's up there with the best
If Lycanthropy can be transmitted for a bit does that mean it's a bacterial curs
Snape literally saved his life with the wolfsbane potion 😭
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You got me RIGHT together. Ima watch it again. 🐼💙
Could you do a video please on the weasley family clock and how it works by keeping whereabouts and conditions on the weasley children I read in the order of the phoenix book
He is a prime example of (fictional) how if you isolate and victimize someone they will become a thorn in your side…
A very powerful werewolf that was able to die while walking at the death valley...
shut up, okay? -_-
I saw that Hogwarts Mystery in the video! 👀😎
How is the werewolf population kept under control after so many centuries? After so many people being bitten, how are under control
I've always wondered why werewolf of London was written lol
Remus: I became a fully fledged monster once a month"
Me: "Girl, SAME!" hahaha
"A became a fully fledged monster once a month".
Huh, who would of thought my girlfriend and someone with the Werewolf curse would have something in common...she too becomes very agreesive once a month and sheds blood.
I was just hit, and she's not due to transform for another couple weeks.
Very Succinctly put, keep Up The Good Work 🤩
Sadly, the actor of Fenrir passed away due to a heat stroke.
Let's be honest with ourselves here people grayback was so weak even the inquisitors could kill him.
I think it’s so messed up how werewolves and Thestrals are treated by the Wizarding world.
Could a squib become a werewolf? I would think not,....but I'm not 100% sure.
squib is reversed muggle in wizarding world so I think he wouldn't survive. and you don't want Filch to be werewolf on top of all his nastiness. He would surely have a fleas!!!
Thats a good revenge.
werewolf humor is on a different level.
They make better heavy metal musicians.
RIP Greyback
Where was all the 80's and 90's fashion!? I didn't leg warmers and Neon!
The Line of Fenrir Greyback:
Unnamed Werewolf - Fenrir Greyback - Remus Lupin - Teddy (Nymphadora and Lupin's Son)
Actually, in the Deathly Hallows, it's said that Teddy is NOT a werewolf!
@@a.j.vantassell2785 exactly, he's metamorphomagus, like Nymph
Frankly, I think the naming wizards should have been killed. Clearly the parent's of both Fenrir Greyback and Remus Lupin hired these people to name their kids. Otherwise, what stupid parents already with lycan related surnames would give their kids names like Fenrir and Remus?...that just screams "Bite my child!"
If greyback wasn't a warewolf he would of definitely been a death eater
or he would not... who knows?
Could you do a video on Igor Karkaroff he is a very mysterious character
Grey back should have been introduced movie three
I've wondered why being a werewolf was such a disability for a wizard? I mean it does suck and place inconveniences on an infected individual.
Couldn't said wizard just aperate to the other side of the world a couple nights a month and sleep it off during the daytime, thereby avoiding the lunar cycle and transforming?
Considering lycanthropy in this universe is somewhat of an allegory for the AIDS virus, it makes what Fenrir did to Remus and other children especially haunting, almost as if he was a molestor.
I’d love if Teddy and Victoire hunted Greyback down years later and eliminated him.
Strange they didn't find a way to turn at will.
If wizards have no idea what they've done as werewolves and vice versa how did greyback remember his grudge against lupin snr?
He had a grudge with him before he turned into a werewolf
20:13 Nice dissolve...
He used to be the transporter, huh
Ok me and my cousin sky rose 🥀 both love Harry Potter but I feel bad for Lupin and Grey back no one wants to be alone or outcasted or hated but she still has no gate she loves this and I do feel feel bad about Remus and Grey back but it’s still sad because no one wants to be a werewolf or anything to give others fear or anything
The Tale of Wolf-Man Greg
Are ti believe it took the wizardry community took that look to invent the wolfsbane potion for werewolves when wolfsbane is in the name
Greyback's philosphy of biting as many people (especially children) as he can, doesn't sound like a Werewolf but instead like a Pitbull.
There is evidence of mixed breeds between goblins, veela, giants, and humans with wizards. Does that mean they are all part of the same genetic family similar to horses, zebras, and donkeys being part of the same family and interbreeding? How did the veela, goblin, and giant species come about? Spells, potions, or natural mutations? Did they come before wizards, same time as wizards or after wizards?
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That is the ultimate revenge against a werewolf hater: infect their own children with lycanthropy.
He was taken to the pound and promptly neutered. 😊😊😊😊
If Harry Potter takes place in the 90's why the hell did he get a Nimbus 2000!? What about the Nimbus 2001!? Why isn't it a Nimbus 1995 or any other pre 2000 Nimbus?
I know people hated lavender but her an Collins death was the ones that really got me.
Lol muggles don’t turn into werewolves 😂. What. A joke.
That’s so not true
They are not durable enough to survive being bitten or scratched by a werewolf
@@lukasd6546 they have in every other folk lore throughout history
@@spatialoaken4693 Yeah, well this isn't just another folk tale, it's trying to be original
@@lukasd6546 I love j.k but saying that about muggers is just plain dumb
@@spatialoaken4693 No its not, it's realistic
Wait so who bit Greyback? I missed that part.
Me
Greyback is regular wizardlogic
If Nagini was bitten by a werewolf would she turn into a wolf?
nope because she was already maledictus
How come Lupin didn't take any wolfsbane when he changed under the whomping willow?
It's explained in book; he saw Sirius and Pettigrew coming into Shrieking Sacks on Marauder's Map he confiscated from Harry earlier. along with Ron, Harry and Hermione. So he left in a hurry there and Severus who brought him his goblet missed with him, instead of Remus he found that map...
Did werewolves have to get wolf like names or did you have to have a wolf name?
Fenrir Greyback stand alone movie
And get Powerwolf to do the soundtrack.
Okay considering that I have heard JK herself an interviews State the exact opposite as far as Muggles being able to be transformed into werewolves I'm going to take that part of it with a huge grain of salt, but as far as everything else with the video excellent work my dude
I think Ron killed him because of what he did to his ex wall under a love, potion girlfriend. I think he had it in him even more so than Harry or Hermione.