How to replace a corroded water shut off valve for toilet or sink
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2020
- How to install water shut off valve. Installing a new water cut shut off valve for your sink or toilet is easy with the right tools.
When remodeling or upgrading your bathroom, don't leave a nasty, corroded water shut off valve. Replacements are easy to install and look so much better, not to mention 1/4 turn valves work so much better as well. The most difficult task is removing the compression ferrule but the right tool makes it super easy.
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You saved me from calling in a plumber because I couldn't figure out why the nut wasn't coming off , just turning around the copper pipe, until you showed the correct tool to use for the job. I will be changing all the other shut off values now since that tool makes the job so easy. Great easy to follow video.
@SandraPatricia That’s great! I’m glad the video saved you a plumbers visit! I’m working on a video now showing ‘SharkByte’ fittings which are much easier to install that compression fittings. So once you get the old valve and fitting off, the SharkBytes just ‘snap’ on! Take a look at that option too. Thanks again for the SuperThanks - very kind of you!
Liked & Subscribed just for being the only video that didn’t skip over the nut replacement and recommended the “compression sleeve puller”
@Grant Garrard Thanks very much, I really appreciate that! Every like and every subscriber really helps out on a new channel! I’m glad you found the video useful!
great video thanks for sharing - just what I needed
Live saver! Most videos say to cut off the ferrule but sometimes there isn't enough to cut off and still install a new valve without sweating in an extension.
@Gawking Watches Yes indeed! I’ve had to replace several that were just barely long enough as is, no room to cut it shorter!
Just an absolutely perfect video! Thank you so much, sincerely. You just saved me a bucket full of money! I appreciate you! Subscribed. :)
@lindseyasher1982 I’m glad to hear the video was useful to you! Always nice to know! Thanks for subscribing!!
Excellent video on how to replace a cut off supply valve! Not only informative and instructional, but very pleasing to hear and watch! Thank you very much, sir!
@garylcarrier Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad you found the video useful!
Enjoyed the video. I'm a 69 yr old DIY guy who has repaired many home plumbing projects. Came upon a similar issue needing to remove the compression ring but from a PEX line. I wasn't aware such a tool existed. I'm going to order this tool for this similar issue I face. Hope this works with PEX. Thanks for the video.
@grgomez247 I’ve never tried the tool with PEX but it seems like it should work just the same. It’s still pulling the compression nut forward. With the insert in place in the tube it should be rigid enough to hold up. I’d be interested to hear how it works for you. Please come back and let us know how it worked. Thanks for the comment!
One of the most polite person on the internet. Thank you sir!
@No One Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching!
Thanks dude, I really appreciate this tutorial. Ya jus dunn took the mystery out of a whole lot, quick!
@John Burns I’m glad it was useful to you! Mystery solving is always fun! Especially when it saves you bank!
@@DougForce
Oh so tru mate. Looks like I owe ya
@John Burns Nah, you don’t owe me anything - I appreciate you checking out the video!
Thank you sharing your RUclips!❤
@Tseten Dorjee Thanks for checking out the video! I appreciate it!
Thank you so much for having this video in place. I am getting the right tools to do a decent job as yours. Great step-by-step demonstration! Well done!!
Thanks for the kind words. Man Tor! I’m glad you found it useful. I love having the right tool - makes things go smoothly.
If you open up a faucet lower in the house than the one you plan to work on, you can decrease the amount of water you need to drain from the one you are going to work on.
@Stephen Knowles I never thought of that, but makes sense. Does that only apply to two story houses or can you open a nearby faucet on the same floor?
@@DougForce I don't know how much opening one on the same floor would help, other than a possible speed up in draining the pipes, which is really all that a lower level opening does.
@@DougForce yeah it does it doesn’t matter if it’s 2 story like a tub or an outside faucet would do the trick draining all that water down
@Daniel Alcala Good to know! I’ll try that next time. Thanks for the comment!
@@DougForce u saved me today :) I was about to cry when I couldn’t get my nasty valve off. Trying to replace my faucet. Now I know why plumbers cost so much :)
Thank you for the time for showing as an easy simple way to replace these valves. Thank you for the great tips.
Glad you found it helpful, @Joe Trevino
Absolutely earned a sub with this video. You made this process so clear and understandable. Thank you so much.
@Green Onion Thanks for the kind words! I’m very pleased the video was helpful to you!
Very good instructional video. The only change I would suggest is to replace the metal ferrule to a plastic one since your pipe (looks like pex). The metal ferrule will eventually cut into the plastic pipe.
@melvinmcgregor2673 Thanks for the kind words. It does look like Pex but it’s actually hard pvc - very weird. I’m planning to swap it out with a SharkByte valve one of these days, which should be an easy change. We will see!
This video easily saved me a lot of time and effort. Thanks for posting it!
Glad it was helpful, @Wes Suess!
As a woman, I am always impressed at how clever men are. I can learn to do what they do sometimes but I'm not someone to think it up on my own. Good work, Mr. Force. I can't wait to fix the ugly mess behind my own toilet!
@Trish Fitzpatrick Thanks for the kind words! I’m confident you can do it - take a look at SharkBite fittings too. I haven’t done a video on those yet but they literally snap on to the pipe and carry a 25 year warranty!
As a woman, you are just as clever as men, and can do anything you want to. I am a 40yo man, who has just began to attempt some DIY. Already I’ve change 2 sets of taps, mounted a TV, changed socket and light switches etc.
It’s amazing what you can accomplish if you set about the task.
@Wonder of Watches Well said!
Great Video!! You took it nice and slow, I was able to follow along with everything! Thanks!
Thanks very much @Sal Montes, appreciate the kind words! Glad to hear it was helpful!
This was an awesome step by step how to. I have never used the ferrule removal tool before, nice tip. Thanks for sharing!
@Steve Turtle It’s a lifesaver! The last one I changed without the tool fought me every step of the way, and I had to stand on my head to reach it. That’s when I went looking for a better way and found this tool. It’s great!
Its good to remove the ferel but not always necessary. A lot of the time you can reuse the current nut and ferel
@Isaac Ellis I agree, no reason to remove the nut or ferrule if they are in good shape. I only replace them if it’s leaking or the nut is rusty and corroded.
Very useful, very informative. Thank you!!!!!!
@justinkase454 I’m glad the video was useful to you! Thanks for the note!
Wow sir I can’t believe I just watched this in full lol 😂 u r very talented I never knew how this was done you are the life saver youtube has so many talented people like yourself sharing your skills and helping people out thank you
I’m glad you watched it and found it helpful! Thanks!
Great video, very clear demostration
@j lou Defonty I’m glad you found it helpful! I hope you will consider subscribing!
Great video. Concise and clear. Thank you
@Geralt of Reviews Thanks very much for the kind words! I’m still learning how to do RUclips so I really appreciate the comments! Happy 4th!
My connection wont allow me to edit for some reason, and dang auto correct; Should have said …thanks for “showing’ and including the link…. Hey, extra comment, cant hurt your algorithms! 😊😀👍
@George DaVall Indeed! Extra comments are always welcome! Lol
I loved this video. Watched many other shut off valve videos and yours is by far the best. Liked and Subscribed
@Champster I’m really glad to hear it was useful to you! Thanks for the kind words and for the like and subscribe! I really appreciate it! Take care!
Awesome video thank you
@Jirehshalom0712 I'm glad you found it useful! Thanks for the note!
Excellent video! I learned a few things!
Thanks @Provided JOKER I’m glad it was helpful!
Good instruction, easy to follow. If she had to i believe my wife could even get this job done with your help and she is not a fix it person at all really. I will be switching all of mine over to 1/4 turn valves now. Home is a 1997 build and we have hard water. Thanks again👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Red Riders I’m glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the kind words!
Great video.
@Larry Bell Thanks very much! Glad you found it useful!
I was looking for a video just like yours . Going to get the ferrel remover. Thanks
@Marion Ake Glad you found it helpful! Thanks!
Great video. I always used a mini hacksaw to remove the ferrules but will be buying me one of those tools!
@Rich Estep Me too, either cutting it off with a hacksaw or wrestling if off with pliers, trying not to get the pipe out of round. This tool is much, much easier! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Thanks for the video. It's very helpful to see how to do these things.
@Jolox I’m glad you found it useful! Thanks for the note!
Thanks man, I didn’t know theres a tool for that!! All my stops have to be replaced!
@MTZ SkunkWorks It’s a great thing to have in your toolbox. The replacement before this one would not come off and I didn’t have the tool at that time. Very frustrating ! This is much better!
Love the pencil work in the beginning of the video. You did great on that.
@Donna Jackson, thanks very much! But I can’t take the creative credit - I hired an artist with talent to do that for me! I’m a newb at RUclips despite using it for years.
Actually I did change the music and shorten the original clip, so I had a tiny bit to do with it! 😀
Amazing! I just changed one of these and could have used the tool. I didn't want to use pliers so used the ring over expecting it to leak. However, I got lucky and it did not leak. The old valve was multi-turn while the new one just a quarter turn. Those wall cover plates always rust because the supply pipe gets very cold and condensation forms. As the moisture evaporates, it goes past the cover plate causing it to rust. One good solution is to use the newer white plastic type. Also, I always point the shut off valve down rather then up so my flexible hookup to the bottom of the toilet tank is shaped like a letter J. This prevents tight loops or kinks. Typically, it requires a 16 inch hose rather than 12 inch but it looks a lot neater with a gradual bend.
@Waxman Thanks for the tips! That's a great idea on the16 line - I'll try that on one I'm working on this weekend.
Brilliant tips, thank you
This was a really good video!
@TheNewenglandboys Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad you found it helpful!
► Thanks for the video and all the useful links!
@Angel DeTierra Thanks for the kind words!
Extremely useful, thanks a lot !
@alaglo1 Thanks for the kind words! Glad it was helpful!
Man thank you for sharing your knowledge this is going to help me on tomorrows project
@John Sanabria My pleasure, I’m glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the note!
Thanks so much. Having to replace a 73 year-old toilet. It's original. Not sure about the valve, but it looked old when we moved in 21 years ago. Just stopped working today. It was time. The toilet and the valve have done more than their fair share of work. Thanks for the hint about the ferrel puller as well!
@Becky Mcdonald Thanks for the comment! Wow, 73 year old toilet! I bet that will be an adventure! You might be able to sell that on eBay! Let me know how it turns out, I bet you will have a story on this one!
@@DougForce OMGosh, you have no idea. Now I am sure I also have 9"x9" asphalt and asbestos tiles. Most of them are in good condition, and I can just encapsulate them, but not so under the toilet, or at least I don't think so. Hoping most of the concrete is still intact. Also hoping I won't have to call an asbestos removal company, and can just encapsulate those as well. The joys of an old house. Lol
@Becky McDonald Sounds like the fun is continuing! I had to replace some concrete under a toilet last year. It actually went better than I expected but I didn’t have to deal with any asbestos!
Excellent video. Easy to understand.
@Lone Ranger Thanks for the kind words! I had a long day today so it was nice to end it with a kind comment! Thanks for watching!
@@DougForce I have an old house and watching you change the shut off valves helps me a lot. I'm thinking that I can do this. I don't like to work with plumbing. It's so delicate. But plumbers cost to much. Thank you.
@Lone Ranger No one likes to work with plumbing! Lol But plumbers cost too much! Cut the water off to the house before you start and give it a shot. It’s not difficult. I always try first, and if I can’t do it I can call a professional later. Good luck with it!
been wanting to do this for years but was afraid to tackle it on my own. Not now, very good video showing how easy it can be if you have the right tools. Plus doing it yourself you can afford those.
@keith walker Im very glad you found the video helpful! I completely agree, I can buy whatever tools I need MUCH cheaper than paying a professional and then I have the tools for the future. And in most cases, if I tackle something I can’t handle (hasn’t happened yet) I can always call in a professional and it won’t cost any more than if I hadn’t tried so nothing to lose by giving it a try. I haven’t made a video yet but if you want to take a look at SharkByte fittings, they are even easier - they literally just snap on and work very well. Take a look at those. 😀
He did overtight the ferrule, ater he came back to tight more, my opinion!
@@isidroenriquez4845 It may have looked that way but I didn't deform the pipe and I haven't had any issues with that fitting so far. Thanks for checking out the viideo!
The image changed quite a bit from 1:48 to 1:49. I don't know what happen. But the video did help me change mine. Good job!
@LeeRoy Jenkins Yes, I’m still learning how to do this RUclips stuff but I’m glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for the comment!
Thank you!
@Cat I’m glad to hear you found it useful!
Very useful great video. Thank you.
@Sue Teacc Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad it was helpful!
What wonderful video Thnkyou so much
@Marianne Rollins Why thank you! I appreciate the kind words and I’m glad you found it helpful.
Very good demonstration.
I got inspired to change all the valves, good or ugly as new make house looks better and me feel much better specially that recently tried to install a bidet and noticed how wrong things can go.
@Sam Sen I’m glad it was helpful and I agree with you, new ones look much nicer. I also agree about how plumbing can go wrong, but those are learning experiences!
Friggin dang skippy! Very good tutorial on this procedure, and thanks for howling and including the link for the Superior tool! I hate to think of someone replacing a shut off, and using the old nut and ferrule?!? 😯 Peace 👍😊
@George DaVall I’m glad you found it helpful! I’ve had ferrules I couldn’t get loose in the past (before this tool) and had to leave them. They worked ok but hated to leave the rusty wall plate. The tool sure helps in those cases. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome. Great video I never knew about The puller
@YAHUSHA KING Thanks for watching! I was surprised to find out how many different pullers are out there!
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing
@Hassan Bazzi I’m glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for the tip!! I have used before a Dremel tool but it’s a pain.
@tubefr71 - I have done the same in the past, but this worked great and was much less effort to get it off!
Thank you so much for this video, life saver!
@Barbara Torres MFVMF I’m glad the video was helpful to you! Thanks for the note!
I've always thought of ferrules as ceramic rings that go around weld studs. You learn something every day
@Elijah Franklin I wasn’t aware ferrules were also used in welding! I learned something new today too! Thanks for the note!
They contain the weld to keep it from spattering and boiling.
Interesting, are they removed after active welding or stay in place?
@@DougForce removed. They're made of a fairly brittle ceramic, so after the weld you just tap them with us with a welding hammer or something they come right off.
thanks for the help
@Chris Gallagher Glad it was helpful to you!
That's pretty cool compression tool removal. I had to use a hack saw to get the one I had off lol
@Jennifer K I’ve had to do the same! The last one I had fought me so hard I started looking for a better way abs found this. It’s slick!
I am going to get one of those. I have the puller that looks like a great puller with two arms that have 90'0 bends in them that fit behind the nut it works but your tool you show involves a lot less fumbling around the one I have also can be used to pull those stubborn plastic faucet handles. Many times if the nut looks pretty new I want to change to a quarter turn valve but the hole in the new valve is not as deep as the old one so I just pull the ferrule closer to the end of the tubing with your tool I will pull them all the way off as yours is much easier to use. Thank you for the video
@Bill Hale Glad you found the video useful - I have several different styles of pullers as you do - some work well in some situations, some work better in others. This style really does make it easy to pull a struck ferrule off. You can't have tool many tools, I always say! Thanks for watching!
Doug, I hope I can tackle this, but my name is BEAR, and I love your use of the term. Pure genius
@Miles Away - lol you are literally a “bear to work with!” - that’s awesome! Unusual names are the best! I’m sure you can complete this task successfully! I hope you will consider subscribing and let me know how your changeout goes!
@@DougForce thanks man-like Indiana Jones, I got the nickname of the dog.
I screwed up, repeatedly, and it took 3 trips to Lowe’s….to bring it to a leak that is at least catchable in a bucket. It blew one time and was like a pressure washer-when testing. Flooded through to my first floor. Niiice.
Sorry, good reminder!
@@DougForce hey Doug! I got it stopped! With a shark bite end cap. The sink isn’t useable, and it has spurred my renovation plans.
I have bare (bear) 3/8” copper pipes coming out of the wall for the hot and cold. To use a shark bite-do I have to first put a 3/8 to 1/2” adapter on the copper line? Thanks boss!
@Miles Away Man I hate that you have had so many challenges but sometimes that’s how plumbing goes. Still you are learning how to resolve those problems and experience is the best teacher! I’ve seen SharkBite fitting that go from 3/8 to 1/2 and others too - you should be able to match to whatever sizes you need, all with SharkBite parts….
@@DougForce thanks boss!!
I got a 3/8 cap-Amazon seemed to only have 3/8 to 1/4 adapters, but not 3/8 directly to twisty thing to sink. I am reticent to trust the guys at Lowe’s, again. I’d rather watch your videos!
Thank you! Helped me alot!
@Tammie MacMullen I’m glad it was helpful! I hope you’ll consider subscribing!
Thanks for this!
@Bungle Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful!
This share just gives you good vibes and learn instantly. Keep the share coming and I hope we can inspire one another. Keep it up. New friend.
Thanks for the kind words! New subscriber!
@@DougForce Thank you too
Watching videos like this is the reason why I call a plumber. Thank you for the video, sir.
@G Money my pleasure!
Best video on this matter....
@armandohernan4610 Thanks for the kind words!
great instruction .thank you
@Nick Henton Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful!
You are a good teacher. The!
@Chris G - Thanks for watching!
You are a genius Sir 😊
@Jay LOL No but I’m very happy you found the video useful! Thanks for the kind words!
Great advice!
@Kelly Keefe I’m glad you found it useful! Thanks for the comment!
Beautiful stuff bro thanks
@Rocharlens Joseph I’m glad it was helpful!
Great video thanks!
@Michelle Miller Thanks for the kind words!
I use the tool from English Tool Company as it's tiny compared to those giant pullers from a box store. Old plumber showed it to me and I bought one. Works great in tight spaces (no affiliation).
@madcow usa I’m not familiar with that tool but tiny is good especially in tight spaces! I’ll check it out. Thanks!
omg I had no idea this tool existed. I had to use an old existing ferrule on my toilet valve upstairs. it works fine but I'm about to do the valves under my sink. subscribed btw. thank you!!
@Here On Mars Nothing wrong with reusing the existing ferrule but if you want to remove the ferrule the tool is great! Thanks very much for the subscription! Appreciate it!
Ah Bach!
Hey Doug, thanks. I checked out your webpage. Really digging that ocean pic with the 2 flags, pier and wind blowing. A download desktop maybe??
@0Doubled seven Thanks! I never really thought about it but it might make a good desktop pic at that…. When I get get a few minutes free I’ll see if I can dig it up and make it available…. 😀
Thanks!
@SandraPatricia I'm glad the video was helpful to you and I really appreciate the 'Super Thanks' - it's my first one ever! You're very kind!
Thank you Master
@YOSHIJOSH My pleasure! Glad it was helpful!
wish I knew about that tool. I've been chaning out a lot of these in my house and I'm just been re-using the one that is there and making the nut extra tight.
@Bigbacon that’s fine if the nut still looks nice, no need to remove ferrule and nut. I just like to replace them if they are rusty and corroded. New ones look nicer! 😀
Thanks for the tip on the ferrule ring puller! I bought a Husky Ferrule removal tool ($12) since that’s all they had in stock at Home Depot. It worked as it should but because of the tight space under my bathroom sink cabinet, it still took me 4 hours to complete the job. Cut my thumb in the process but all is well now. The biggest pain about this job is trying to lay underneath with the corner of the cabinet box cutting into your back. Very uncomfortable and not much room for your arms to extend. A towel worked ok to pad the edge, otherwise it would have been unbearable. Both of the old valve ferrule rings were seized onto the copper. I didn’t want to cut/shorten the pipe, since it only sticks out so far, so the puller was key. I used a new Compression Valve for the replacement, not one of those press on Shark style valves. I’ve been told the sharks won’t pull off but I feel uncomfortable knowing there is no nut to tighten down on the pipe. Anyway just wanted to post my experience changing my valves and faucet for the first time.
@Tom P - Under cabinet jobs are the WORST! I never have the right tool at hand and as you noted, very uncomfortable! I use an old pillow to cushion the cabinet edge. I’ve become more and more impressed with SharkBite fittings. Have used several and had no issues. They carry a 25 year warranty too. Congratulations on a successful job! You saved a ton of cash by not hiring a plumber! Thanks for the kind words and for the comment!
I recently used a Shark Bite fitting. They work fine. The only recommendation is to install them out in the open so you can monitor them for any possible leaks.
@@AStanton1966 Great comment - appreciate you sharing your experience!
@@DougForce I have a lot of trouble so I'm just watching videos right now but I wanted to share something that I saw. I saw someone take an ironing board and lay that across the cabinet.
it's padded of course and then the worker laid down on the ironing board and so they couldn't feel the edge of the cabinet. Hope you can use that tip.
@Deadmanswife That’s a great idea! I’m not sure a full sized ironing board would fit in some smaller bathrooms, but a smaller board definitely would! I’m going to look at that. Thanks for sharing the tip!
In a general repair situation I just reuse the nut and ferrule that’s on it. If I do have to remove the ferrule, I have a room that cuts the ferrule. However I need to get a puller because there’s times when you don’t have enough room to cut the ferrule because the nut can’t go back out of the way.
@Josh Cowart Agreed, no need to replace the ferrule and nut unless it was leaking or the nut is rusty and corroded. I replace them if they look bad because it increases the appearance value. The puller tool is much easier than trying to work in a tight spot to remove the ferrule by cutting. I had a few of those before I found the puller tool. :)
@@DougForce yeah the cutter is what our supply house carries so that’s why I have it. As for replacing the nut, it sort of depends on what I’m there for. If they’re remodeling or redoing everything then I’ll for sure replace it. If I can’t get to the ferrule, I cut the escutcheon off which makes it easier. If in there just to fix something that isn’t working then I’ll reuse the nut.
@Josh Cowart Good information. I need to pick up a cutter tool just to have another option. Cant have too many tools! 😀
@@DougForce very true
Good information!
@Keith Staudt Sr. Thanks very much!
Thanks a lot!
@Cesar Garcia Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful!
that's awesome, thank you so much
@That’sAwesome!ThankYou! Appreciate the kind words!
New sub. Very useful. Thanks
@Thomas Dipaolo Thanks very much for the sub! I’m glad you found it useful! 😀
Thank You so much!!!!
@edwin morales I’m glad you found it helpful! I hope you’ll stick around and check out some of the other videos!
Excellent! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@old72mac Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful!
Thanks !👍💪
@Arjeguz Rodriguez Glad it was helpful! I hope you will consider subscribing!
I have a different set at the toilet. It's was already done. Wish I had one of these.
@Robert Sparks What kind do you have?
@@DougForce it was done by past owners. It a regular faucet turn off connected to a square block. It's frozen in open position. It's connected to the toilet. It's not hurting but would like to br able to switch it out.
Thanks
Glad it was useful, @ Dave McCann
Nice video for soft water jobs, but what can you do when hard water deposits lock the ferrule nut to the valve and you can't get the valve or ferrule nut to turn when the assembly is located very close to the cabinet wall. After 20 minutes of effort, I gave up and just connected the new faucet to the old valve and left the problem to the future. PS - the reason I wanted to replace the valve was that it was "frozen" in the open position and could not be budged to turn off the water flow (oddly, the corresponding hot water valve worked perfectly and they were both installed at the same time).
@UTArch1 I’ve encountered that kind of issue before as well and the solution is always the same. Bigger job. You have to open the wall to gain access to the pipe, cut off the frozen valve and extend the pipe. I too have left those issues to the future but a leak in that area means you have to cut water to the house - which gets painful quickly! lol I broke a frozen valve trying to release it and had to open the wall in the adjoining room to get in and replace the whole house cutoff - which meant cutting water at the street. I called in a pro for that one! lol
great video! Thanks for making it so easy to understand. Glad you put the links at the top so I can easily order these supplies. Is it possible to find a shut off valve/water line that will not rust??
@Karen Stemler I’m glad you found the video helpful! I was excited to find a tool that made the removal easier as I had struggled to replace valves before that. I have not seen anything that would prevent rust on the valves but at least if it’s easier to swap them out when needed it makes maintenance easier. Thanks for the note and I hope you’ll consider subscribing! 😀
Damn good video!!
@BMARK Thanks very much! Glad it was helpful!
instead of buying that puller tool, i just cut a small piece of the pipe off directly behind the ferule. which was severely CRIMPED onto the pipe and that puller might well have bent and or even flared the end of the pipe trying to apply enough pressure to pull that ferule off. i then just cleaned and deburred the pipe and put what ever i wanted there. copper male fitting or another press fitting etc. i prefer soldered on copper fittings.
@Blacky Boi If you have enough pipe extending from the wall, and or the pipe is crimped then absolutely cutting it is a good option. I also prefer soldering copper fittings, but compression fittings are an easy and quick choice to have in the toolbox.
Doug - great instructive video - thumbs up
just by the way - I was told it was a olive = you call it a ferrel ( same thing )
I found if I work carefully - with a small hack saw - ( dremel tool if one has it ) I can cut the ferrel ( I cut at an angle not in same line as pipe - but circa at 45 degree to the pipe ) when close to cutting through I stop - grab a strong screw driver and use it as a lever and snap the ferrel - sorry but that tool you have cost alot to import
2nd point - that white PVC (??) pipe in your video
well the end did not seem square ? maybe optical illusion - cause I found that if the pipe end is not square( straight cut not squew ) it will not sit flush to the valve or fitting - thus leaks are more common
just my little bit of insight on your great video
@Friendly Garfield Yes, olive is another name for ferrule. I too have used the hacksaw and or Dremel method and it works fine if done carefully. There may be a local version of the tool that would be more affordable. It’s a great tool to have if your do lots of valve replacement. I think the pipe end not looking square was a video distortion but you are absolutely correct. If the end is not square leaks are more likely. Thanks for sharing your thoughtful tips and experience!
Your video was excellent. Good video, good explanation, all the details I needed, and reviewing some of the comments and replies also helped. Replacing corroded hot and cold valves for bathroom vanity. Followed the video step by step including using the ferrule tool. No problems. Installed new valves and tightened both “not too tight” “not to loose”. Working by myself (BIG mistake) and went in basement to turn water back on. However I still had hot water off from tank. Cold water valve spraying/leaking. More tightening fixed it. Turned hot water on from tank again a spray/leak. Tried to tighten and valve popped off! Had to run for shut off in basement. Water everywhere in bathroom and poured into crawl space under floor. With help from second person got valve back on and no leaks. However I don’t trust either valve and reluctant to start on second bathroom. WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I used short crescent wrenches to not over tighten the nuts but I feel like going back to using longer wrenches and more muscle.
@Burr Clausen First off, give yourself credit for tackling a new situation you hadn’t done before and making it work! You’ve learned some lessons, you’ve gained some experience and survived! I’m sorry you had some frustrations but that’s pretty normal for plumbing jobs. Plumbing is frustrating and challenging for everyone even pros sometimes. Sounds like maybe you didn’t compress the ferrule enough the first time which is probably why the valve popped off. Use a bigger wrench if that helps, or put a bit more muscle on it. You have a frame of reference now to guide you. Good idea to work with a partner to help leak test and get the water off quickly if needed. Maybe put a bit of Teflon tape on the ferrule since you had some leakage before. It’s not required but it might help, based on your experience thus far. Keep building on your experience and be proud you didn’t have to call a plumber to come save you. No shame in calling in a pro, but you did it yourself. Nice. Finally if you just don’t trust the compression work, you can consider swapping to SharkByte fittings… they literally snap on to the copper pipe and have developed a good reputation in the last few years. They are guaranteed for like 20 years and might give you more confidence. And they are EASY! Hang in there Burr, every DIY person has had these experiences and these feelings. You did great, and can apply those lessons s to the next set, or try out the SharkBytes! Either way you did it yourself and saved big on a plumber. 😀
@@DougForce Thank you for the reply and encouragement.
@@burrclausen Let me know how it goes and what you go back with. Sounds like you did fine, just need things a bit tighter.
@@DougForce Obviously I am not experienced in You Tube also. I wanted to post a picture of the finished vanity showing the valves and hoses but I can’t figure how. Looks great (professional) and I was able to install the valves and hoses in the second bathroom with no issues at all. However the tub fixture replacement is turning out to be another challenge. First the Moen spout coming out and the replacement is threaded. Called Moen and their answer is that is the way they sell their kits. However there is something called a Universal tub spout adapter that is supposed to allow me to install the threaded spout.
I have a bigger issue / question on the new replacement bathtub drain/stopper. The new one Danco 89487 Overflow Plate & Stopper Kit is identical to what I removed. I followed the instructions on the packaging and a You Tube video with my configuration. My question / concern is the stopper threads to the inside of a 90 degree pipe under the tub. There isn’t a flange on that piece of pipe. So when I tighten the stopper using a stopper wrench it doesn’t pull the stopper down onto the recess of the tub drain hole. Was that clear? The plumbers’ putty did ooze out put I don’t see how it stays in place and won’t leak. Any ideas?
@Burr Clausen Glad to hear the second set of valves went smoothly and you are proud of your professional looking installation! Congratulations!
Tub spouts are always a bit of fit and fiddle operation but sounds like you have the right adapter.
The drain issue you describe kinda sounds like a problem with that Danco 89487 model. If you look at the reviews for it many have complained about the stopper being wobbly or sticking up and not fitting well. Check into some of those reviews and see if they match what you are experiencing. It may just be an artifact of that particular model.
I follow a plumber on YT and he always puts a little pipe thread sealer on his ferrules in a compression fitting. I know there will probably be a lot of "back and forth" on this suggestion. However, when I do plumbing, I always want to lessen the probably of having to re-do the job or get a leak.
@A Stanton1966 Yes, it’s definitely a topic that has opinions on both sides. I don’t disagree that it can be helpful and had I had issues with a leak I’d definitely try a little sealer. Technically it’s not required for compression fittings but a little insurance is always a good idea!
Wonderful detail makes it easy to follow, I need to remove two that have a stuck handle/valve, and just hope that it was not soldered on to the pipe...!
@Christian Gutierrez Chances are it will be compression fittings if it’s been there awhile, but you just never know with plumbing! Good luck!
Great tutorial with very clear instructions. Thank you! Wondering if you would use a sharkbite fitting here? I replaced a water shut off valve behind a toilet in one of my bathrooms. It’s working fine but wondered what you think of using a sharkbite in this application? Thanks in advance.
@Kimberly J. Thanks for the kind words! SharkBite fitting are excellent and I wouldn’t hesitate to use them for valves like this. Professional plumbers have suggested in the past that they were more for emergency repairs, but SharkBite fittings carry a 25 year warranty. I might be more hesitant to use SharkBites behind a wall or someplace inaccessible but it’s pretty easy to snap a new one on under a sink or behind a toilet every 25 years! 😀
@@DougForce Thank you Doug! I value your opinion and this gives me confidence to use the sharkbite fittings on the easy to get to valves. I did call the company awhile ago and they assured me that they honor a 25 year warranty, and your feedback seals the deal! Thank you.
@@kimariokiji I’m flattered. Glad I could be helpful. Feels great to do it yourself and save the money and hassle of hiring it done, doesn’t it? I see you have lots of diy playlists so I know you are a do it yourselfer! 😀
Teflon tape always recommended.
@Gerry Galvan While Teflon tape ‘should’ not be required for a compression fitting there is absolutely no harm in adding a little to have double protection. Agreed.
Nice simple little job that I've done many times, I freaked when I saw that PVC pipe, unusual. I will say that I have changed sink faucets where the valves were frozen where you could not turn them. They didn't leak, so I just shut the water off to the house and did the job without changing the valves. Other than looking ugly, the one you changed was fine, it even worked, but if you didn't change it, you would not have been able to make this nice little informative video. In many cases, if the ferrule will not come off, if you have enough pipe sticking out, (make sure) you can just cut it off. Make sure you clean the copper well before you put the new ferrule and valve on.
Thanks for sharing the tips, @jthonn - I didn’t expect to see that cpvc pipe either! Every other one I’ve ever changed has always been copper. But so far, so good!
@@DougForce It must be some of the newer homes that have that. I built mine in 1988, and I didn't even use flexible lines on the toilets or sinks. You bent a piece of copper tube to shape, had a compression ring on the valve end and a rubber piece on the other end that you hand tightened to the toilet or sink. I have since changed all of that, (new faucets, valves, etc.) but long Gevity wise that would last dang near forever.
@jthonn The old ways were very robust for sure. I’m wondering if this bathroom might gave been re-plumbed at some point since every other cutoff in the house kitchen and baths have been attached to copper. I bought it about 10 years ago as a property to rent. No telling what happened to it before that time!
@Dorothy Martin Murphy’s law! Sometimes just touching old plumbing is all that is needed to make it leak.
I was told to re-use existing Ferrell. When i re-use existing Ferrell it takes more turns to seal it than with new Ferrell. Next time i will just get this tool cause it takes many more turns to seal from leaks with old Ferrell. I used quarter turn valve cause i was told they last way longer than gradual turn valves.
@maximus vonce Nothing wrong with reusing the existing ferrule as long as it will seal. As you note it takes more compression when reused. I also much prefer quarter turn valves over the twist style. You’ll love the tool next time!
You have a video for solder connection? How you can tell what connection?
@Rick Kane I don’t have a video on soldering connections but I do intend to make one. There are several good videos on RUclips - I’ll post one below. Soldered connections do not have threads or nuts. ruclips.net/video/b3c85sj2i7s/видео.html
Thank you so much for all of the views of the valve and the narration.
I’m not trying to replace the valve actually. What I’m trying to do is to replace the fill valve inside the toilet tank, using the 30 second method (in another YT video). But, the valve is one of those oval handle valves and it is stuck.
I live in an apartment complex and I don’t care for the workers here. Feels like they’re shopping the place when they come in to repair something. I’m not at all any type of plumber, but I’ve still done some plumbing repairs successfully here. I just can’t get that valve to close. Perhaps, as a woman, I just don’t have the torque or I’m afraid to break the valve, causing a giant fiasco. I also don’t want my downstairs neighbor to hear me doing any work as, she never leaves the house and is the most idle person I’ve ever met.
At this point, I’ve simply been pouring penetrant on it and hoping for the best, while the fill valve is still basically operational, albeit slow to refill the tank. Maybe if the penetrant sits on there a few days, I’ll get somewhere - without loosening the entire valve off the wall. Worried sick.
@Private Private I understand completely about not wanting strangers in your home! You can continue to try the penetrating oil and hot water cloth compresses on the value for a few days but if nothing convinces it to turn easily you will have run out of options. Don't feel that it's due to you lacking strength as a woman, it should turn easily and you don't want to force it. Forcing it could break it and as you said, fiasco! Those valves sit in the same open position for years and basically corrode into a locked position. If you have no luck after a few days of spraying penetrant and applying the hot compress to the valve your best bet would be to call management and complain that you can't cut the water off to the toilet. Tell them you had a friend who had the same problem and it flooded the downstairs apartment! That should get their interest. lol They should replace that valve for you as it's a obviously a flood risk if you needed to cut off the water and couldn't. Once they have replaced that valve you can turn the water off and on as needed to replace your fill valve. I know it's frustrating with nosey neighbors at all but you're doing a great job of learning how to handle things yourself and be more independent. Let me know how it works out and if I can help. :)
@@DougForce thank you do very much. I have t tried a hot towel yet, but I will tomorrow after work.
It’s good to learn these things. I’ve seen when a super was here last to work on the toilet, many years ago. I actually had to lend him my tools. Same for another super, to replace that J-pipe under the kitchen sink and same for the cable guy. Still, when things go awry, they get scary.
@Private Private Heres a video that shows the technique- ruclips.net/video/L-cTL7JJr8E/видео.html
@@DougForce thank you so much. You really didn’t have to. I did see this one, however, I still haven’t tried that hot water. Just some trepidation and tired of it not going anywhere I guess. I’ll have to renew my resolve tomorrow evening. Have a wonderful night and thank you again.