for these pictures, do you use any modifiers or just the original one? what is the distance you place the light from the subject and can you give some average settings
About half of these photos are using the Westcott Rapid Box XL softbox, and if so, it would be just out of the frame (I don’t usually photoshop out lights. I put them just out of sight). About half were taken at 85 1.4, 1/8000s, and about the other half at 16mm f/10, 1/250s, my two favourite (and opposite) setups. Haha. Most were at 1/2 to 1/1 power.
I just pulled the trigger on the ad400 pro since they’re slightly on sale now. I thought about the 600 since the light can be extremely harsh here in California but the cost difference between them was more than I could justify.
Great review. I'm curious about the shot about 7:47 in of the middle-large group of people at the wedding. Was this shot at full power? The light must have been somewhat far back where the light/light stand wouldn't have got in the shot. I'm curious what light modifier you used for this one in particular. Thanks!
@@WesPerry oh wow, I guess that happens. do you have a c stand you recommend for the ad600 pro? most of the times it will be just me carrying things (no assistant)
I was thinking of adding one of these to my arsenal as a back up because I am abusive to my strobes. I have a couple 600 TTL older version flashpoint. Your comment about quality is unfounded. First the owners manual for this unit states "Always keep this product dry. Do not use in rain or damp conditions." Yes, this is a RTFM moment, not a problem with the unit. Then you compare it to a "Professional product" suggesting it was not as professional as the ProPhoto B1 (which by the way is not an outdoor flash) this is what the manual reads for the B1 "Generator, lamp heads and accessories are only intended for indoor photographic use. Do not place or use the equipment where it can be exposed to moisture, extreme electromagnetic fields or in areas with flammable gases or dust! Do not expose the equipment to dripping or splashing. Do not place any objects filled with liquids, such as vases, on or near the equipment." Or dust? My AD600TTL old models have been out to the dusty motocross tracks on numerous occasions without failure. I do have to blow them out with compressed air. I bought mine as open box specials for almost half off and I know they were used by the store, they told me they put new bulbs in the units and they still provided the manufacturers warranty. (which has long expired. I just think it was unfair you complain about it not working when you needed to work when you got it wet, or ran it in damp conditions. That it still works now is a testament to how robust it is despite your horrible abuse of the product :). I wonder if the B1 which is cannot be operated outside would hold up? Oh and by the way, every photographer know you are not supposed to shoot strobes at 1/1 for any sustained time. It means you don't have a powerful enough strobe. I did buy the 1200 remote head for my two 600s when I should midday, so they don't overheat or are stressed as to reduce product life.
Thanks, Wes! Currently thinking about changing from Elinchrom and don’t really know what to do. Your video was a big help. A question: sometimes I shoot soccer teams, which means 200+ portraits (5-20 shots from each) in around 4h. Power setting is around 1/4 to 1/8. Could this get me into trouble? Raising ISO was not an option on Elinchrom, because one of the three lights was at the minimum power setting. Perhaps the bigger number of stops on the AD600 would help in this regard.
@@HELIOSSTUDIO I've done it in December and never looked back. I have used various Elinchroms before for 15 years. But they failed to create usable new products while the rest of the world continued to develop. The Elinchrom One is merely a joke.
Im confused between getting a AD400pro n AD600pro. For fashion n outdoor Couple shoot Can U pls suggest me the most efficient setup? If incase u have already made a video on that too share the link
Late to this party, Wes, but just purchased as my first strobe (which might be ridiculous), but it was on sale for the price you quote for the old AD600 BM version and for what I want to do (outdoor, action shots) wanted the option of enough light with HSS or fast t0.1 time with enough power. Not sure yet if what I imagine will work, but will find out soon. Also liked the Bowens mount that is native. In the end, this ended up being less expensive that the AD 400. Thanks for review. Do you think this would still be a good value today at a bit over 500 dollars US? Back at you when I find out. Weight of the unit is my main concern and fragility of the side screen.
Great Review !! Thanx. I see that you use it many time to shoot against the sun. May I ask you what is your preferred light modifier ? 160 Soft box or anything like this ? Kind regards from Germany
That depends a lot on the situation. Most of the time I’m using the Westcott Rapidbox XL, because it’s just so easy. If I have more time and space and an assistant, I’ll use the large Laofas softbox. If I’m by myself or it’s windy, I’ll use the small Aputure Light Dome Mini (I have videos on both of those).
Thanks for the review. I have the AD600 and I too live in a more wet than dry climate (Oregon) and discovered it has no weather proofing. I ended up ordering the 600 Extension Head and storing the unit in a bag that I hang bellow on my stand. I found you do loose a 1/3 stop of light with the extension head. That's NOT in any Godox specs.
@@WesPerry No actually less so, but I have it in the Godox optional canvas bag and cover it at the base of the stand. Extension is also good because you have much less weight in the air. It gets windy here too.
In other comments I mentioned that I'll be buying more evolv 200's + accessories.. though I will also be investing in a bigger strobe.. Currently leaning towards the Explor/AD 400pro.. Thoughts? Where my bowens Gemini 500r's are now ancient by comparison.. They are tanks.. they have taken hard falls on concrete without even a dent.. they still work fine years later.. They are mostly metal construction and all manual.. but I need to bring an external battery. Cables.. external receiver.. and yes.. they are heavier than the godox units.. fun to carry while hiking to a spot hard to get to especially if you want it partially set up so you dont have to re set it up every dif location.. more fun.. I'm actually looking to sell both units originally $600 each to buy either 2 more evolv 200's & adb2 or an explore 400 pro.
All depends on how much power you need. If the 500's were always more than enough power, then the 400 should be fine. If they were often at 1/1, then you're probably going to want a 600 instead.
@@WesPerry Generally I wasn't at 1/1 power for what I was doing.. I never felt like I was not getting enough power.. I do eventually want the 600.. but I think the 400Pro will suit me fine.. before I go that route I will be gett another evolv 200 and will get the adb2 head to turn the two lights into one 400ws light..
Maybe just a square of clear packing tape over the switch? It's unfortunate that you had a failure, not that much of an upcharge for them to build something with a waterproof switch. But I guess if you're not paying a Profoto price you don't get a Profoto level product. I've got the previous generation 600, it's a workhorse and the slower recycle time is not a problem for me. Usually spot on exposure with TTL. Nice, honest reviews are refreshing in this day of payola raves.
I regularly get emails that start with “How much for your positive review of our x product?” They’re pretty ballsy, which means it’s more common than I would have expected.
@@WesPerry ok just bought it right after i wrote that yesterday and i love it lol..dont think i even need it to be on the charger anyway because i can shoot all day with 1/4 of power and still have battery left. i was thinking of buying that ac adapter pack but i dont think i need it..Thanks again for all the info it helped me pull the trigger on this beast
Hi can I ask.. Is this the right combination? Godox AD600Pro Witstro All-In-One Outdoor WITH the Godox XProC TTL Wireless Flash Trigger for Canon? I have a Cnaon 5d mk4
That sounds like a good combo yep 👍🏻 Just don’t use rechargeable Ni-Mh batteries in the XPro. It gets cranky when it doesn’t have a full 1.5V from the batteries (or 3.0V combined rather).
It may be just me - but one thing I noticing is that the flash-tubes do not last that long. Which brings me to another question if anyone has an answer? Will the flash tubes last longer at lower settings? - ie if I start flashing with an ISO of 800 instead of 100 would the flash-tube last longer?
Yeah if you leave it fully depleted for too long or leave it unused for several months (which has the same effect) the charge controller will no longer recognize the battery cells.
You don't need to take the battery off to reset the counter, just switch it off and then off, it's a lame limiter which kicks in regardless of the ambient temperature, but after a while the real temp monitor will kick in
Nah, I tried that at the time, turned it off and on again a few times and it wouldn’t fire. Then as soon as I took the battery off any put it back on it was working again.
Thanks for this video! I got very worried about your experiences with the snowflakes. Living in northern Norway, we are very used to snowy and rainy days. Is the build quality a deal braker? Have you had more issues with water or snow entering the unit?
This video was stellar! Definitely gonna snag one of these! Liked and subbed man, this content was exactly what I hope for when researching a product. A++++
Good review! Please answer my question : about head lamp differences in pro and bm, pro has soft flat top, that looks like profoto heads, which give more soft light spot in standart zoom reflector 60 degree angle. I choose outdoor flash to use with standart reflector like profoto. Did you see light spot difference in those conditions?
Thank you for the video and honesty! I just got Godox ad600bm and the high speed sync is not working on Sony a7r3, I have tried everything under the sun to make it work, but the curtains are not fast enough, and it won’t switch into HSS mode if shooting faster than 200th of a second. Do you you know if the pro will work on Sony a7r3??
@@WesPerry I was going to return it, but then decided to check one last time, after adjusting it multiple times on the camera, I finally heard a click, after the click everything worked perfectly! I guess it didn't sit properly. Thank you for the quick response! :)
Oh perfect! Glad you won’t have to go through any extra hassle with it. Sometimes the flash units can be a bit fussy on the Sony shoe. All those tiny little contacts.
@@WesPerry I'm very glad also! :) I don't remember the last time I felt so frustrated. I readjusted the transmitter on the shoe several times and it still didn't work, until this morning! Thanks, so happy it works!
Great video. Actually spent goof afternoon watching loads of your awesome videos. Currently deciding to have a powerful godox studio light. Since this review, i didn't see you review any other equalent strobe. Are you still using this one? Do godox produce something like deflector (like elinchrome does) i really like reflective lighting set ups so I have really soft light. No hotspots etc. Thanks for producing content. Amazing work and effort.
I had to look up these deflectors before answering. I’d honestly never even heard of them before. I don’t believe Godox makes anything like that, but their bigger lights are simply Bowen’s mount, so you can buy anyone’s modifiers to put on there. I’m still using this one quite a bit. Closest thing in power to this that I’ve tested since is the AD300 Pro. Obviously in two very different leagues ;)
Hi Wes! I tried looking before asking here but unsuccessfully. My question is, are there accessories available for this light? Such as barn doors, snoot, dome diffuser, etc? With how snug the cap fits on it, I'd be surprised if there were not these attachments for it? Or Bowens compatible?
It’s a Bowen’s mount light, so you can put whatever you want on there. When it was first released there was talk of proprietary accessories to go on the front of the stock reflector that comes with it, but I’m not sure that those ever materialized.
@@WesPerry okay, I've been specifying my Google searches in relation to the ad600pro, probably explains why I was coming up empty. Searching now specifically under Bowens .... yup ... I'm dumb haha, seeing everything I've been looking for now. Thanks!
Hi. looking to get a AD 600 to add next to my AD100pro. Which version of the AD600 should I get as there is a ttl and a non ttl and another one. So a bit confused on that.
Depends whether or not you need TTL! There’s the base non ttl one, the ttl version, and the Pro version with faster recycling (and a couple other bells and whistles)
@@WesPerry okay thanks. Will look more into TTL. I wasent sure what ttl mean in terms of studio strobes since ive only used a speedlight and had to connect it to the body using the ttl button.
My triggers have all gone through a lot of rain without issue, as it can’t be helped sometimes. But as far as the larger stuff goes, no one seems to make anything that can take even the slightest amount of inclement weather 🤷🏻♂️
@@WesPerry I wish there was a proper weather sealed strobe, it seems a bit silly that my EL-1 can be left in the rain but my B10X+ can't, the weird thing is that Profoto's transmitters aren't weather sealed properly but Canons are, can't have everything I suppose.
Thanks for the review Wes. The batteries are not that expensive really when you compare it to the other options from Elinchrom, Profoto and Broncolor. Contemplating adding a few of these units to the studio soon, they seem like great lights.
They’re just expensive when compared to other Godox products. They account for almost half the price of the entire device itself. And when they’re not even the highest quality batteries to begin with, it just doesn’t make a lot of sense. But even so, Godox value is hard to deny 😉
An easy fix for the overheating problem is to attach a small 5v DC fan to the bottom outside and drill a series of small holes in a small grid on the top. Using 4 AA batteries will run it for days and no overheating.
That wouldn’t do much of anything, unfortunately. The “overheating” is based on the number of shots you’ve fired in succession and power level, not the actual internal temperature. When I’m using it at -30°C, it overheats at exactly the same rate as using it in direct sunlight at +30°C. The overheat time chart is in the manual.
The Godox products do not measure thermals so even if they've cooled down they won't let you fire unless you leave it alone for a specific amount of time it really sucks
Thank you this helped tremendously, bought a flashpoint xplor 600 pro witch is basically the same thing almost new for $500 with the radio pro controller. Exited to use it😁. Amazing video tho the music keeps you interested and I love your humor.
I do use another brand Priolite they don’t overheating first they are hotsync not HSS. My question to you By looking at your images full noon you are using reflector in front your strobe head no octabox or any diffused device correct? Just curious for getting the most power out of this unit at full 1/1 power it still very difficult to light large groups.
If I can, I use a Rapid Box XL typically as a light modifier. But if I need More light than I can get through that, I just switch to the stock reflector that comes with the AD600. And if That isn’t enough light, I recompose and narrow my aperture until I can get my shutter speed down to 1/250s, which turns off HSS, and effectively doubles my power output. I’ll often do this for wide angle shots, lots of which are shown, 16mm, f9-11, 1/250s, 1/1 flash power unmodified. It takes a lot of power sometimes!
Wes Perry that what I do it really amazing from Las Vegas to Canada We do things that make sense. I’m also buying a leaf shutter camera Leica q or Zeiss XD1 still waiting. My Canon don’t go over 1/200 here in Vegas very difficult. My main box I use Buff 64 umbrella with diffuser and A110 SMDV octabox. With my PRIOLITE not a problem at all.
The AD400 is in a weird in between place for me. Not bright enough for midday use, overkill for indoor, and no built in Bowens mount. I know those who have them love them, though 👌🏻
Hello. Great review! Unfortunately I had some problems with my ad600pro. After updating the firmware to 1.5, the Flash always activates the cooling fans at maximum power despite having the pilot lamp off. I am looking for the old firmware 1.3 or earlier to try the down grade. Do you have any suggestions?
That’s odd. I’m on the latest firmware and haven’t had this issue. I’m not even sure what benefit the latest firmware grants you. I’m not sure how easy it is to downgrade, but even reinstalling the new firmware might help.
With a 74Wh battery, and a 38W modeling lamp, if nothing else ran on this thing, it would last for less than two hours. But given there are electrical heat losses, a fan, and a flash to power, the actual number would be much lower. The modeling lamp shuts itself off about every 5 minutes to prevent you from wearing out the battery. Essentially if you want to use it that way, you’ll be looking at getting the AC power adapter for it (sold separately).
Hahaha The highest it ever gets here is high 30’s (not often at all thankfully), reaching into the 40’s on the humidex because it’s very humid here. We’re also similarly blessed with winters that often dip just shy of -40°C 😂 What a Wonderful climate 😂
@@WesPerry we are just cold and wet... Summer a hot day is 20C and winter is around 2-7C but can dip to - 17 at night... However if there is a half inch of snow fall the whole country acts like they have never seen snow before and very thing comes to a crashing halt 😂😂😂
Hahaha Where I’m from in Nova Scotia, the weather is very similar to yours. I guess it’s not big surprise they called it “New Scotland” 😏 We’ve had about 3 feet of snow fall in the past week. And another foot coming down tomorrow!
Hi. What did you mean at beginning re Canada and “get the real thing” there is a Canadian seller, claims exactly same, but different name. Is it the same? They give 2y warranty
Your pricing is a bit off. The regular price of the 600 is $550, while the TTL version is $700. The pro is $900 and only $720 for the non-ttl. Not that far apart at all.
I really enjoy your videos, Wes. Informative and entertaining. Was about to purchase the new, non-TTL version of the 600Pro from Adorama yesterday but found that B&H was selling the TTL version of the Pro for the same $750. Needless to say, I bought the TTL version even though I never use TTL. It arrives tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my AD600BM.
A cheap 18” Neewer ring light as my key light camera right, and a Godox AD-B2 using its LED’s beside me camera left as an edge light. Main camera is an a9 with the 35 1.4 @ f/1.6 using face detect continuous AF, B cam is an a7ii with the 90mm Macro @f/5.6, locked focus (because it can’t be trusted with video AF).
Just found your channel. Great stuff! Do you think the build quality of the bowens mount and bracket of the 600Pro is strong enough to hold a 36" softbox and possible a 60" softbox?
I can tell you that I have AD600BM and after using it with an Elinchrom 175 cm softbox for about 4 times the bayonet broke. The metal piece of the bayonet is held in place by small screws which are screwed in plastic. I don't know how good the "pro" version is constructed.
I’ll have a look to see what’s holding it on, but I regularly use a 6’ octo in studio, and a 3’ Rapid Box XL in high winds outside, many dozens of times, and have yet to have an issue.
The trigger isn’t provided with the flash, but there are many to choose from and they aren’t very expensive. You can’t use it while plugged in without buying a separate AC power back that replaces the battery.
Bojidar Dimitrov with Godox the TTL is based on the flash Initializing, not the trigger. There are TTL and non-TTL AD600 Pro’s available, the latter being less expensive.
@@WesPerry Thanks for the quick reply. I very limited experience with lighting equipment but just purchased a Godox ad600pro. So when you say "anything" what does that mean exactly? I can use any modifier or I can use any speedring? I am not even really sure what a speedring does- my guess is holds the modifier to the strobe head? Thank you!
I said anything with a Bowens Mount, not anything. Bowens is a pretty common light modifier standard. Lots of softboxes and dishes available with this Mount.
Nice review and great photos! I just got two Flashpoint XPLOR 400s (AD400 Pro) recently for studio work and really liking them so far. A nice upgrade from an old AlienBee 400 and a couple of no name manual speedlights. The 600s were a little more than what I need, but makes perfect sense for what you do. And yeah, I bought might through Adorama for all the reasons you mentioned. :-)
What do you use on them for modifiers? Is adapting them on a hassle at all? I generally find the AD200 is enough for studio work. But I’m generally not fast paced in the studio myself.
@@WesPerry Right now I'm using the Glow EZ Lock Octas. When I bought the strobes, each came with a free 48" EZ Lock Octa, so that was kind of a "no-brainer". I also bought a 60" because I tend to use that size a lot. The Octas have a Bowens mount, so there isn't any adapting other than adding the Bowens mount onto the strobe (which it comes with). They're pretty much made to go together. They aren't quite as high quality as some other modifiers I've used, but they are perfectly fine and a lot less expensive. I think they are a really good value for the money. They come with a reflector plate and a grid. I use the reflector plate and the double diffusion and have gotten nice even light in my tests. Happy with them so far.
@@WesPerry Yeah, I have the small Rapid Box for my speedlights and it's great for dramatic and moody stuff or as a beauty dish that doesn't take up a lot of storage room. I've never had grids before because they usually are expensive, etc. But they come with the Glow Octas, so you can't beat that!
Hi Wes, I'd like to know more about this "Canadian" retailer. There's Amazon Canada and there's Henrys. So you are saying you got no handle with your AD600Pro ? They seem to all come with a handle so I'm really confused by your opening. This is a little concerning. I'd want to give out info about that retailer so others are armed with that info, but I appreciate the fact you don't wish to name names of any retailer. I 100% understand that. I just tweeted you, Wes.
@@WesPerry Hi Wes.... oh my... wow. Thank you. Well that's really disappointing ! As far as I know, that handle is part of the light. The part that is attached via bolt right ? and slides onto the top of a light stand..... that is strange... wow. I really appreciate the info !
Are we talking about the same flash here? It all seems pretty clear to me. Not nearly as confusing as many camera menu systems. And then buttons seem pretty self explanatory. Maybe I’m just accustomed to Godox kit now?
For some reason it’s the sold separately extra batteries that seem to have the worst track record. Seems as though they may have made a whole bunch right at the beginning and a lot of them died of self-discharge before they ever made it out to customers. They can usually be revived, but it’s an unfortunately risky procedure. Best to just send it back for a replacement.
I got the AD600 Pro kit (with extension head) from Adorama on sale for $650 right around the first of the year. Maybe I can afford an extra battery...lol. Good video like always!
@@WesPerry could you give a simple explanation of ttl lol I have the flashpoint zoom speedlite and I know it has ttl but I'm not sure what I use. I feel like I use manual
TTL you don’t set the power level yourself (like 1/16 etc), but the flash automatically determines how much power is needed, and you only adjust the exposure compensation (like +0.3, +1.0 etc). When you shoot in manual you choose the power level and it’s always the same until you change it. On the trigger it will say TTL or M in front of the number to indicate which mode you’re using.
Yeah, but it only really works in controlled settings, mostly indoors, where the whole room/whole exposure is being modified by the flash. If you’re flashing only falling on one part of the image (your subject but not the backdrop/surroundings), ttl is very unreliable.
I maybee an idiot as well, but I have a slight inkling the "outdoor" label refers to the HSS capability not the weather sealing. Just found your channel today and love the format, have subscribed and thanks from down under.
Greg C I'm not sure that the pro version has claims to be weather sealed! Does any flash? Outdoor, if it claims to be that, probably is a reference to the fact that it has a a built in battery, and doesn't require plugging into the mains! But what do I know!
Not ordering it from adorama and getting the accessories? You might have to be more specific...I make a lot of mistakes. 😂 (at what time in the video did I mention it?)
Umm, I hope not! Then you could melt down your expensive flash unit without even knowing! (Something I’ve literally done to SIX Yongnuo speedlights, which don’t have overheating protection circuits).
What would be nice is maybe a gauge showing how close you are to overheating, or how overheated it is. Some sort of metric on that big beautiful screen that gives you some information. And, of course, for it to resume functioning faster. It’s running a fan after all, so it shouldn’t take That long.
Very informative review from a working pro who uses the product regularly thanks. Unfortunately some YT reviews are basically advertisements. The Godox isn't perfect but hard to beat in the bang for bucks stakes. It is also a demonstrably better product than the older version. Look forward to your next video. PS - don't be a tight arse buy that spare battery.
Yeah, but the starting price was so much lower, all things accounted for, with exchange rates, shipping, import and duties, I saved less than $50 😒 And now I’m going to be paying some import tax for a handle ordered from Adorama since they don’t even sell it as an accessory in Canada! 🙄
I'm one of those hybrid shooters. Pho/Videography and this is a great choice for someone like that in imho. Bought this over a few of the very high-end ones... :)
@@WesPerry a little after the 10:00 minute mark, around the 12:45 mark, and again at the and again around 13:40 were what stuck out to me. Your production quality is excellent--your information is great! I would just encourage you to work on your delivery, and maybe even 'salesman' it up a notch. I know you're not selling any one product, and that's fine--but what you ARE selling is your brand, and that's where polishing your delivery up will help *you* shine. All the best, Wes. :)
Has that happened with other Godox lights yet? I wasn’t expecting that. I’d be a bit wary of off brand batteries in a device with a high current draw like that.
For higher quality image samples, head over to my website here: www.wesperryphotography.com/youtube/2019/1/7/godox-ad600-pro-long-term-review
Moisture will ruin any electronics it can get to i get the same issues refurbishing computers!
for these pictures, do you use any modifiers or just the original one? what is the distance you place the light from the subject and can you give some average settings
About half of these photos are using the Westcott Rapid Box XL softbox, and if so, it would be just out of the frame (I don’t usually photoshop out lights. I put them just out of sight). About half were taken at 85 1.4, 1/8000s, and about the other half at 16mm f/10, 1/250s, my two favourite (and opposite) setups. Haha. Most were at 1/2 to 1/1 power.
that picture on the tank is epic.
You nailed it. Ad600 pro beats ad600b only when recycle time matters.
First time seeing your channel, spot on mate, informative, funny and undoubtably Canadian!
This channel is on my top 3 best channels. I never buy without visiting this channel for reviews. Keep those great videos coming, Wes.
Thanks so much!
I just pulled the trigger on the ad400 pro since they’re slightly on sale now. I thought about the 600 since the light can be extremely harsh here in California but the cost difference between them was more than I could justify.
I really want one but waiting for my Xplor to give out lol
Might want to go do a shoot in the snow with it, then 😏
Me too. I have 2 600's. I also have a 400 Pro and love it so I definitely have the hots for a 600 pro.
The day after I posted this, Godox released a new non-TTL version of the AD600 Pro for $150 less! 😒 (I never use TTL).
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Manny, enjoy your videos!. Love my AD600pro so far. Just barely had a chance to use it though lol.
OMG...Manny Ortiz
Thanks for adding in those battery-saving tips. I bought this thing little over a month ago, and the analysis will come in handy.
Great review. I'm curious about the shot about 7:47 in of the middle-large group of people at the wedding. Was this shot at full power? The light must have been somewhat far back where the light/light stand wouldn't have got in the shot. I'm curious what light modifier you used for this one in particular. Thanks!
That was with a 3’ Westcott rapidbox, flash just barely out of frame (might have had to be healed out a bit even. Haha)
@@WesPerry Cool! If you want to make an affiliate link to that one I'll use that to buy one
Wellll they don’t really exist anymore. This was a while ago. Haha. Westcott has a whole new lineup now that I haven’t had a chance to try out yet.
@@WesPerry oh wow, I guess that happens. do you have a c stand you recommend for the ad600 pro? most of the times it will be just me carrying things (no assistant)
That carrying case is worth the extra money. I use mine to carry a few lenses.
what modifiers do you use when shooting in full sun?
Rapid box xl when I have enough power, if not then just the stock reflector.
I was thinking of adding one of these to my arsenal as a back up because I am abusive to my strobes. I have a couple 600 TTL older version flashpoint. Your comment about quality is unfounded. First the owners manual for this unit states "Always keep this product dry. Do not use in rain or damp conditions." Yes, this is a RTFM moment, not a problem with the unit. Then you compare it to a "Professional product" suggesting it was not as professional as the ProPhoto B1 (which by the way is not an outdoor flash) this is what the manual reads for the B1 "Generator, lamp heads and accessories are only intended for indoor photographic use. Do not place or use the equipment where it can be exposed to moisture, extreme electromagnetic fields or in areas with flammable gases or dust! Do not expose the equipment to dripping or splashing. Do not place any objects filled with liquids, such as vases, on or near the equipment."
Or dust? My AD600TTL old models have been out to the dusty motocross tracks on numerous occasions without failure. I do have to blow them out with compressed air. I bought mine as open box specials for almost half off and I know they were used by the store, they told me they put new bulbs in the units and they still provided the manufacturers warranty. (which has long expired. I just think it was unfair you complain about it not working when you needed to work when you got it wet, or ran it in damp conditions. That it still works now is a testament to how robust it is despite your horrible abuse of the product :). I wonder if the B1 which is cannot be operated outside would hold up? Oh and by the way, every photographer know you are not supposed to shoot strobes at 1/1 for any sustained time. It means you don't have a powerful enough strobe. I did buy the 1200 remote head for my two 600s when I should midday, so they don't overheat or are stressed as to reduce product life.
Thanks, Wes! Currently thinking about changing from Elinchrom and don’t really know what to do. Your video was a big help. A question: sometimes I shoot soccer teams, which means 200+ portraits (5-20 shots from each) in around 4h. Power setting is around 1/4 to 1/8. Could this get me into trouble? Raising ISO was not an option on Elinchrom, because one of the three lights was at the minimum power setting. Perhaps the bigger number of stops on the AD600 would help in this regard.
That’s no problem. At 1/8 power this thing goes forever.
@@WesPerry awesome, thanks! I even found the AD1200 now. Guess I'm sold on Godox ;)
DON'T DO IT, elinchrom is FAR better and more durable. I have been using mines for 11 years now with no maintenance and they run as new.
@@HELIOSSTUDIO I've done it in December and never looked back. I have used various Elinchroms before for 15 years. But they failed to create usable new products while the rest of the world continued to develop. The Elinchrom One is merely a joke.
Wes, always coming in with great review. Thank you sir.
Great review,
Thank you for you're time. Love your photos.
Thanks for the positivity! 👍🏻
Im confused between getting a AD400pro n AD600pro. For fashion n outdoor Couple shoot Can U pls suggest me the most efficient setup? If incase u have already made a video on that too share the link
ich habe 2 Blitz GODOX 600 Pro und 3 Akku gekauft ging leider nicht..wahrscheinlich sind nur die Akkus defekt , die sind leer und lädt nicht..
My AD600PRO has been incredible! it hasn't missed a beat & it's worth every dollar i paid!
Late to this party, Wes, but just purchased as my first strobe (which might be ridiculous), but it was on sale for the price you quote for the old AD600 BM version and for what I want to do (outdoor, action shots) wanted the option of enough light with HSS or fast t0.1 time with enough power. Not sure yet if what I imagine will work, but will find out soon. Also liked the Bowens mount that is native. In the end, this ended up being less expensive that the AD 400. Thanks for review. Do you think this would still be a good value today at a bit over 500 dollars US? Back at you when I find out. Weight of the unit is my main concern and fragility of the side screen.
Great Review !! Thanx. I see that you use it many time to shoot against the sun. May I ask you what is your preferred light modifier ? 160 Soft box or anything like this ? Kind regards from Germany
That depends a lot on the situation. Most of the time I’m using the Westcott Rapidbox XL, because it’s just so easy.
If I have more time and space and an assistant, I’ll use the large Laofas softbox. If I’m by myself or it’s windy, I’ll use the small Aputure Light Dome Mini (I have videos on both of those).
Thanks for the review. I have the AD600 and I too live in a more wet than dry climate (Oregon) and discovered it has no weather proofing. I ended up ordering the 600 Extension Head and storing the unit in a bag that I hang bellow on my stand. I found you do loose a 1/3 stop of light with the extension head. That's NOT in any Godox specs.
I had heard you lose a 1/2 stop with the extension! Do you find it to be better sealed than the flash itself?
@@WesPerry No actually less so, but I have it in the Godox optional canvas bag and cover it at the base of the stand. Extension is also good because you have much less weight in the air. It gets windy here too.
In other comments I mentioned that I'll be buying more evolv 200's + accessories.. though I will also be investing in a bigger strobe.. Currently leaning towards the Explor/AD 400pro..
Thoughts?
Where my bowens Gemini 500r's are now ancient by comparison..
They are tanks.. they have taken hard falls on concrete without even a dent.. they still work fine years later..
They are mostly metal construction and all manual.. but I need to bring an external battery. Cables.. external receiver.. and yes.. they are heavier than the godox units.. fun to carry while hiking to a spot hard to get to especially if you want it partially set up so you dont have to re set it up every dif location.. more fun..
I'm actually looking to sell both units originally $600 each to buy either 2 more evolv 200's & adb2 or an explore 400 pro.
All depends on how much power you need. If the 500's were always more than enough power, then the 400 should be fine. If they were often at 1/1, then you're probably going to want a 600 instead.
@@WesPerry Generally I wasn't at 1/1 power for what I was doing..
I never felt like I was not getting enough power.. I do eventually want the 600.. but I think the 400Pro will suit me fine.. before I go that route I will be gett another evolv 200 and will get the adb2 head to turn the two lights into one 400ws light..
Maybe just a square of clear packing tape over the switch? It's unfortunate that you had a failure, not that much of an upcharge for them to build something with a waterproof switch. But I guess if you're not paying a Profoto price you don't get a Profoto level product. I've got the previous generation 600, it's a workhorse and the slower recycle time is not a problem for me. Usually spot on exposure with TTL. Nice, honest reviews are refreshing in this day of payola raves.
I regularly get emails that start with “How much for your positive review of our x product?” They’re pretty ballsy, which means it’s more common than I would have expected.
Thanks for the review. Im ordering the ad600pro tomorrow , using it with Sony ;)
Enjoy! 👌🏻
can I shoot with this while the battery is charging? For example, If im inside using this light do I have to use it in battery mode only?
That’s a hard no, I’m afraid.
@@WesPerry ok just bought it right after i wrote that yesterday and i love it lol..dont think i even need it to be on the charger anyway because i can shoot all day with 1/4 of power and still have battery left. i was thinking of buying that ac adapter pack but i dont think i need it..Thanks again for all the info it helped me pull the trigger on this beast
"This is where this light .... shines"
Take my like you jerk!
😂
Hi can I ask..
Is this the right combination?
Godox AD600Pro Witstro All-In-One Outdoor WITH the Godox XProC TTL Wireless Flash Trigger for Canon?
I have a Cnaon 5d mk4
That sounds like a good combo yep 👍🏻
Just don’t use rechargeable Ni-Mh batteries in the XPro. It gets cranky when it doesn’t have a full 1.5V from the batteries (or 3.0V combined rather).
It may be just me - but one thing I noticing is that the flash-tubes do not last that long. Which brings me to another question if anyone has an answer? Will the flash tubes last longer at lower settings? - ie if I start flashing with an ISO of 800 instead of 100 would the flash-tube last longer?
I haven’t had an issue yet myself, but yes, lower power settings will result in longer life.
I see many people complaining about the battery not charging
Yeah if you leave it fully depleted for too long or leave it unused for several months (which has the same effect) the charge controller will no longer recognize the battery cells.
You don't need to take the battery off to reset the counter, just switch it off and then off, it's a lame limiter which kicks in regardless of the ambient temperature, but after a while the real temp monitor will kick in
Nah, I tried that at the time, turned it off and on again a few times and it wouldn’t fire. Then as soon as I took the battery off any put it back on it was working again.
Thanks for this video! I got very worried about your experiences with the snowflakes. Living in northern Norway, we are very used to snowy and rainy days. Is the build quality a deal braker? Have you had more issues with water or snow entering the unit?
I haven’t had any issues with water or snow as of yet. But I’ve avoided using it in such conditions, as it’s not really a weather sealed lens.
This video was stellar! Definitely gonna snag one of these! Liked and subbed man, this content was exactly what I hope for when researching a product. A++++
Good review! Please answer my question : about head lamp differences in pro and bm, pro has soft flat top, that looks like profoto heads, which give more soft light spot in standart zoom reflector 60 degree angle. I choose outdoor flash to use with standart reflector like profoto. Did you see light spot difference in those conditions?
I’m afraid that I don’t have an AD600BM to directly compare it to.
Thank you for the video and honesty! I just got Godox ad600bm and the high speed sync is not working on Sony a7r3, I have tried everything under the sun to make it work, but the curtains are not fast enough, and it won’t switch into HSS mode if shooting faster than 200th of a second. Do you you know if the pro will work on Sony a7r3??
It should still be working. Which transmitter are you using?
@@WesPerry I was going to return it, but then decided to check one last time, after adjusting it multiple times on the camera, I finally heard a click, after the click everything worked perfectly! I guess it didn't sit properly. Thank you for the quick response! :)
Oh perfect! Glad you won’t have to go through any extra hassle with it. Sometimes the flash units can be a bit fussy on the Sony shoe. All those tiny little contacts.
@@WesPerry I'm very glad also! :) I don't remember the last time I felt so frustrated. I readjusted the transmitter on the shoe several times and it still didn't work, until this morning! Thanks, so happy it works!
Great video. Actually spent goof afternoon watching loads of your awesome videos.
Currently deciding to have a powerful godox studio light. Since this review, i didn't see you review any other equalent strobe. Are you still using this one?
Do godox produce something like deflector (like elinchrome does) i really like reflective lighting set ups so I have really soft light. No hotspots etc.
Thanks for producing content. Amazing work and effort.
I had to look up these deflectors before answering. I’d honestly never even heard of them before. I don’t believe Godox makes anything like that, but their bigger lights are simply Bowen’s mount, so you can buy anyone’s modifiers to put on there.
I’m still using this one quite a bit. Closest thing in power to this that I’ve tested since is the AD300 Pro. Obviously in two very different leagues ;)
Hi Wes! I tried looking before asking here but unsuccessfully. My question is, are there accessories available for this light? Such as barn doors, snoot, dome diffuser, etc? With how snug the cap fits on it, I'd be surprised if there were not these attachments for it? Or Bowens compatible?
It’s a Bowen’s mount light, so you can put whatever you want on there. When it was first released there was talk of proprietary accessories to go on the front of the stock reflector that comes with it, but I’m not sure that those ever materialized.
@@WesPerry okay, I've been specifying my Google searches in relation to the ad600pro, probably explains why I was coming up empty. Searching now specifically under Bowens .... yup ... I'm dumb haha, seeing everything I've been looking for now. Thanks!
man how are you only 11.6k in subs?anyway great honest reviews always! Cheers and keep safe!
Beats me! Haha
Working as hard as I can over here, and it’s a slow road!
Hi. looking to get a AD 600 to add next to my AD100pro. Which version of the AD600 should I get as there is a ttl and a non ttl and another one. So a bit confused on that.
Depends whether or not you need TTL!
There’s the base non ttl one, the ttl version, and the Pro version with faster recycling (and a couple other bells and whistles)
@@WesPerry okay thanks. Will look more into TTL. I wasent sure what ttl mean in terms of studio strobes since ive only used a speedlight and had to connect it to the body using the ttl button.
@gbj6581 I can’t say I use ttl more than once or twice a year myself.
@@WesPerry good to know. Thank you 👍
Godox products die with a tiny bit of moisture?
My triggers have all gone through a lot of rain without issue, as it can’t be helped sometimes.
But as far as the larger stuff goes, no one seems to make anything that can take even the slightest amount of inclement weather 🤷🏻♂️
@@WesPerry I wish there was a proper weather sealed strobe, it seems a bit silly that my EL-1 can be left in the rain but my B10X+ can't, the weird thing is that Profoto's transmitters aren't weather sealed properly but Canons are, can't have everything I suppose.
Thanks for the review Wes.
The batteries are not that expensive really when you compare it to the other options from Elinchrom, Profoto and Broncolor.
Contemplating adding a few of these units to the studio soon, they seem like great lights.
They’re just expensive when compared to other Godox products. They account for almost half the price of the entire device itself. And when they’re not even the highest quality batteries to begin with, it just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
But even so, Godox value is hard to deny 😉
The switches on the AD200 and XPro are very weak sliders with minimal catch.
An easy fix for the overheating problem is to attach a small 5v DC fan to the bottom outside and drill a series of small holes in a small grid on the top. Using 4 AA batteries will run it for days and no overheating.
That wouldn’t do much of anything, unfortunately. The “overheating” is based on the number of shots you’ve fired in succession and power level, not the actual internal temperature. When I’m using it at -30°C, it overheats at exactly the same rate as using it in direct sunlight at +30°C. The overheat time chart is in the manual.
@@WesPerry interesting, and strange too. When I get mine soon I'll have to disect it! :-)
I cannot advise you to do that.
But also, feel free to share you findings ;)
The Godox products do not measure thermals so even if they've cooled down they won't let you fire unless you leave it alone for a specific amount of time it really sucks
Thank you this helped tremendously, bought a flashpoint xplor 600 pro witch is basically the same thing almost new for $500 with the radio pro controller. Exited to use it😁. Amazing video tho the music keeps you interested and I love your humor.
I do use another brand Priolite they don’t overheating first they are hotsync not HSS. My question to you
By looking at your images full noon you are using reflector in front your strobe head no octabox or any diffused device correct? Just curious for getting the most power out of this unit at full 1/1 power it still very difficult to light large groups.
If I can, I use a Rapid Box XL typically as a light modifier. But if I need More light than I can get through that, I just switch to the stock reflector that comes with the AD600. And if That isn’t enough light, I recompose and narrow my aperture until I can get my shutter speed down to 1/250s, which turns off HSS, and effectively doubles my power output. I’ll often do this for wide angle shots, lots of which are shown, 16mm, f9-11, 1/250s, 1/1 flash power unmodified. It takes a lot of power sometimes!
Wes Perry that what I do it really amazing from Las Vegas to Canada
We do things that make sense. I’m also buying a leaf shutter camera
Leica q or Zeiss XD1 still waiting.
My Canon don’t go over 1/200 here in Vegas very difficult. My main box
I use Buff 64 umbrella with diffuser and A110 SMDV octabox. With my PRIOLITE not a problem at all.
I’ll just wait for Godox to release a more powerful light...or Sony with a global silent shutter camera 😏😂
For weddings should be enough with the ed400 groups on location?
Not during midday sun, no. Possibly if you’re not using HSS of have a modifier.
Love my Flashpoint system - Evolv 200 AD400 and AD600 Pro. All three work seamlessly.
The AD400 is in a weird in between place for me. Not bright enough for midday use, overkill for indoor, and no built in Bowens mount. I know those who have them love them, though 👌🏻
Hello. Great review! Unfortunately I had some problems with my ad600pro.
After updating the firmware to 1.5, the Flash always activates the cooling fans at maximum power despite having the pilot lamp off.
I am looking for the old firmware 1.3 or earlier to try the down grade. Do you have any suggestions?
That’s odd. I’m on the latest firmware and haven’t had this issue.
I’m not even sure what benefit the latest firmware grants you.
I’m not sure how easy it is to downgrade, but even reinstalling the new firmware might help.
Wes Perry Tank you
How many 1/1 shots did you take and writhin what amount of time in between?
Within an approx ten minute period, 40 1/1 shots at 20mm zoom, or 80 shots at 105 to 200mm of zoom. (With an increasing range in between).
whats the battery life when using the model light on full. would it last about 4 hours? also i would be using the flash with the model light still on.
With a 74Wh battery, and a 38W modeling lamp, if nothing else ran on this thing, it would last for less than two hours. But given there are electrical heat losses, a fan, and a flash to power, the actual number would be much lower.
The modeling lamp shuts itself off about every 5 minutes to prevent you from wearing out the battery. Essentially if you want to use it that way, you’ll be looking at getting the AC power adapter for it (sold separately).
Wes Perry Thank you so much for your reply I appreciate it
30 - 40 degrees? I live in Scotland... Do you live on the sun? 😂😂😂
Hahaha
The highest it ever gets here is high 30’s (not often at all thankfully), reaching into the 40’s on the humidex because it’s very humid here.
We’re also similarly blessed with winters that often dip just shy of -40°C 😂
What a Wonderful climate 😂
@@WesPerry we are just cold and wet... Summer a hot day is 20C and winter is around 2-7C but can dip to - 17 at night... However if there is a half inch of snow fall the whole country acts like they have never seen snow before and very thing comes to a crashing halt 😂😂😂
Hahaha
Where I’m from in Nova Scotia, the weather is very similar to yours.
I guess it’s not big surprise they called it “New Scotland” 😏
We’ve had about 3 feet of snow fall in the past week. And another foot coming down tomorrow!
@@WesPerry in india it's goes upto 50 degree
What modifiers do you use with this unit for weddings?
Usually either the Westcott Rapid Box XL, or the stock modifier when I need more oomph.
Hi. What did you mean at beginning re Canada and “get the real thing” there is a Canadian seller, claims exactly same, but different name. Is it the same? They give 2y warranty
Which seller is that? I bought from Vistek and got a cardboard box, no handle, and a one year warranty at the time.
@@WesPerry strobepro in Alberta. Claim exactly same and full Canadian support.
I don’t think they had the AD600 Pro initially at launch, but they had it soon after. I jumped on the boat too early ;)
Is this worth the difference between the $450 AD600BM and the $900 AD600Pro?
Your pricing is a bit off. The regular price of the 600 is $550, while the TTL version is $700. The pro is $900 and only $720 for the non-ttl. Not that far apart at all.
Great review Wes! How often does it over heat? I have this model, but I have not put it through that much stress yet. Thanks!
Not very often really. I have to be pushing pretty hard on a warm day for that to happen.
nice video good job on the review keep up the good work
Good job on the comment. Keep up the good work! 😉
Are you recording with the Sony a7riii. If so with what lens.
Using the a9 with the Sony/Zeiss 35 1.4 @ f/1.6
I really enjoy your videos, Wes. Informative and entertaining. Was about to purchase the new, non-TTL version of the 600Pro from Adorama yesterday but found that B&H was selling the TTL version of the Pro for the same $750. Needless to say, I bought the TTL version even though I never use TTL. It arrives tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my AD600BM.
Let me know your thoughts! I didn’t know they had marked down the original...
@@WesPerry It caught me by surprise, too, Wes. Apparently, it was a very short-lived promotion. The price was back up to $900 by this morning.
Great review! May I ask what type of lighting you are using in your studio?
Thanks! Are you talking about studio photography, or my RUclips videos?
@@WesPerry RUclips
A cheap 18” Neewer ring light as my key light camera right, and a Godox AD-B2 using its LED’s beside me camera left as an edge light.
Main camera is an a9 with the 35 1.4 @ f/1.6 using face detect continuous AF, B cam is an a7ii with the 90mm Macro @f/5.6, locked focus (because it can’t be trusted with video AF).
does this work plugged in while in the studio? as in constantly while on charge?
I’m afraid not. You have to get one of these if you want constant power:
bit.ly/2Zh6luG
Thankyou 🙂
Just found your channel. Great stuff! Do you think the build quality of the bowens mount and bracket of the 600Pro is strong enough to hold a 36" softbox and possible a 60" softbox?
Oh yeah, no problem. People, including me, do it all the time.
I can tell you that I have AD600BM and after using it with an Elinchrom 175 cm softbox for about 4 times the bayonet broke. The metal piece of the bayonet is held in place by small screws which are screwed in plastic. I don't know how good the "pro" version is constructed.
I’ll have a look to see what’s holding it on, but I regularly use a 6’ octo in studio, and a 3’ Rapid Box XL in high winds outside, many dozens of times, and have yet to have an issue.
do they provide the trigger? Does it work with battery only or you can plug it?
The trigger isn’t provided with the flash, but there are many to choose from and they aren’t very expensive.
You can’t use it while plugged in without buying a separate AC power back that replaces the battery.
@@WesPerry I am using Nikon D500. I absolutely need a ttl one. can suggest what is the most appropriate one. I mean, the trigger.
Bojidar Dimitrov with Godox the TTL is based on the flash Initializing, not the trigger. There are TTL and non-TTL AD600 Pro’s available, the latter being less expensive.
what kind of adapter or speedring do I need to use softboxes? or what kind/company of modifiers can I use out of the box with AD600Pro?
Just anything for the standard Bowens Mount. Easy peasy.
Only the AD400 needs the included adapter to take a Bowens Mount.
@@WesPerry Thanks for the quick reply. I very limited experience with lighting equipment but just purchased a Godox ad600pro. So when you say "anything" what does that mean exactly? I can use any modifier or I can use any speedring? I am not even really sure what a speedring does- my guess is holds the modifier to the strobe head? Thank you!
I said anything with a Bowens Mount, not anything. Bowens is a pretty common light modifier standard. Lots of softboxes and dishes available with this Mount.
@@WesPerry Oopss-misread. So just look for any modifiers with Bowens mounts?Awesome thank you!
That’s right 👌🏻
thank you for the review
Better plastic than Elinchrom
can you show your battery charger wall? looks decent
One of these days for sure ;)
very informative, thank you!
Nice review and great photos! I just got two Flashpoint XPLOR 400s (AD400 Pro) recently for studio work and really liking them so far. A nice upgrade from an old AlienBee 400 and a couple of no name manual speedlights. The 600s were a little more than what I need, but makes perfect sense for what you do. And yeah, I bought might through Adorama for all the reasons you mentioned. :-)
What do you use on them for modifiers? Is adapting them on a hassle at all? I generally find the AD200 is enough for studio work. But I’m generally not fast paced in the studio myself.
@@WesPerry Right now I'm using the Glow EZ Lock Octas. When I bought the strobes, each came with a free 48" EZ Lock Octa, so that was kind of a "no-brainer". I also bought a 60" because I tend to use that size a lot. The Octas have a Bowens mount, so there isn't any adapting other than adding the Bowens mount onto the strobe (which it comes with). They're pretty much made to go together. They aren't quite as high quality as some other modifiers I've used, but they are perfectly fine and a lot less expensive. I think they are a really good value for the money. They come with a reflector plate and a grid. I use the reflector plate and the double diffusion and have gotten nice even light in my tests. Happy with them so far.
I love my Rapid Boxes, but the grids are hard to come by and Crazy expensive for no reason.
@@WesPerry Yeah, I have the small Rapid Box for my speedlights and it's great for dramatic and moody stuff or as a beauty dish that doesn't take up a lot of storage room. I've never had grids before because they usually are expensive, etc. But they come with the Glow Octas, so you can't beat that!
Outdoor does not mean weatherproof
Are you only use 1 godox ad600?
Usually yes.
Which softbox to use with it?
Usually the Westcott Rapidbox XL
Great review, thanks!
Great comment, thanks! 😉
Merci pour cet exposé nuancé et très précis. C'est très convaincant !
Hi Wes, I'd like to know more about this "Canadian" retailer. There's Amazon Canada and there's Henrys. So you are saying you got no handle with your AD600Pro ? They seem to all come with a handle so I'm really confused by your opening. This is a little concerning. I'd want to give out info about that retailer so others are armed with that info, but I appreciate the fact you don't wish to name names of any retailer. I 100% understand that. I just tweeted you, Wes.
Got it from Vistek. Henry’s wasn’t even taking orders when I preordered from Vistek. Came in a cardboard box, no handle. 🤷🏻♂️
@@WesPerry Hi Wes.... oh my... wow. Thank you. Well that's really disappointing ! As far as I know, that handle is part of the light. The part that is attached via bolt right ? and slides onto the top of a light stand..... that is strange... wow. I really appreciate the info !
I sent you pic on twitter
why are there 12 thumbs down. , great video as always WES
Always lots of thumbs down to be had on RUclips! Thanks, Stuart!
Those confusing buttons and menus is really really pain in the ass, imagine encountering it every time you open and when changing settings..
Are we talking about the same flash here? It all seems pretty clear to me. Not nearly as confusing as many camera menu systems. And then buttons seem pretty self explanatory. Maybe I’m just accustomed to Godox kit now?
Much appreciated Wes
Got mine today, plus a extra WB26 accu. The extra accu doesn't charge. DOA.
For some reason it’s the sold separately extra batteries that seem to have the worst track record. Seems as though they may have made a whole bunch right at the beginning and a lot of them died of self-discharge before they ever made it out to customers.
They can usually be revived, but it’s an unfortunately risky procedure. Best to just send it back for a replacement.
great review thanks for taking the time
Great comment! Thanks for taking the time :)
would you go for the Godox or Adorama's new Orlit ? thanks @@WesPerry
Awesme video. Thanks for reassuring
I got the AD600 Pro kit (with extension head) from Adorama on sale for $650 right around the first of the year. Maybe I can afford an extra battery...lol. Good video like always!
I hate you 😂
Sorry bro...I have to thank FJH for the link to the sale on time.
If I already have the R2 trigger should I get the light with TTL?
Well that just depends if you use TTL. I find it almost useless for outdoor work, when your subject is often a very small part of the frame.
@@WesPerry could you give a simple explanation of ttl lol I have the flashpoint zoom speedlite and I know it has ttl but I'm not sure what I use. I feel like I use manual
TTL you don’t set the power level yourself (like 1/16 etc), but the flash automatically determines how much power is needed, and you only adjust the exposure compensation (like +0.3, +1.0 etc).
When you shoot in manual you choose the power level and it’s always the same until you change it.
On the trigger it will say TTL or M in front of the number to indicate which mode you’re using.
@@WesPerry gotchaa, I've been using manual all this time then. So ttl is basically just saving you time from guessing how much power you need
Yeah, but it only really works in controlled settings, mostly indoors, where the whole room/whole exposure is being modified by the flash. If you’re flashing only falling on one part of the image (your subject but not the backdrop/surroundings), ttl is very unreliable.
I maybee an idiot as well, but I have a slight inkling the "outdoor" label refers to the HSS capability not the weather sealing.
Just found your channel today and love the format, have subscribed and thanks from down under.
Greg C why do you think that? Previous non pro version also did HSS! So basically, your incorrect!
@@richardbierman9856 I have the previous version, and it is not water proof. The ref was to the weather sealing not the HSS capability.
Greg C I'm not sure that the pro version has claims to be weather sealed! Does any flash? Outdoor, if it claims to be that, probably is a reference to the fact that it has a a built in battery, and doesn't require plugging into the mains! But what do I know!
What was your mistake? What mistake did you make? You didn't say?
Not ordering it from adorama and getting the accessories? You might have to be more specific...I make a lot of mistakes. 😂 (at what time in the video did I mention it?)
They should have put conditional * mark on outdoor.😊
Right?? At least One person agrees with me. Haha
Hope Godox will give us oppotunity to turn overheating protection off)))
Umm, I hope not! Then you could melt down your expensive flash unit without even knowing! (Something I’ve literally done to SIX Yongnuo speedlights, which don’t have overheating protection circuits).
What would be nice is maybe a gauge showing how close you are to overheating, or how overheated it is. Some sort of metric on that big beautiful screen that gives you some information.
And, of course, for it to resume functioning faster. It’s running a fan after all, so it shouldn’t take That long.
Very informative review from a working pro who uses the product regularly thanks. Unfortunately some YT reviews are basically advertisements.
The Godox isn't perfect but hard to beat in the bang for bucks stakes. It is also a demonstrably better product than the older version.
Look forward to your next video. PS - don't be a tight arse buy that spare battery.
😂
Nice review 👍
Nice comment 👍🏻
You avoided import tax though
Yeah, but the starting price was so much lower, all things accounted for, with exchange rates, shipping, import and duties, I saved less than $50 😒
And now I’m going to be paying some import tax for a handle ordered from Adorama since they don’t even sell it as an accessory in Canada! 🙄
very boker lens ???
Huh?
Wes Perry info lens
Minh tan Nguyen the bokeh-est shots are with the Sony 85 GM. The wider ones with the 16-35GM.
@@WesPerry thanks you very much
oh, trust me, it was not a pleasure to see those images.
why's that?
Love mine!
I'm one of those hybrid shooters. Pho/Videography and this is a great choice for someone like that in imho. Bought this over a few of the very high-end ones... :)
I wasn’t really even thinking about the great potential for the LED video light when I bought it, and now I use it for that all the time as well 👍🏻
@@WesPerry Totally!!!
do u hhave a youtube bts set .up?
Not yet...it’s basically just my kitchen, so I wouldn’t imagine it would be very interesting. Lol
@@WesPerry bro, just do the thing man you might never know
outdoor with no rain lol
ad 600 pro is available for only $500 in india
Whaaaaat??
Seriously? In our country it's freaking $800.
wheree in india,plz tell me
good video
Thank you for the review. It was a bit--too casual at times.
Which times?
I would generally consider that as a good thing. It’s kindof my schtick to be more casual and personable than the average reviewer.
Wes Perry hey Wes, I promise to re-watch tomorrow and get you a timecode. Please don't get discouraged--keep up the great work!
@@WesPerry a little after the 10:00 minute mark, around the 12:45 mark, and again at the and again around 13:40 were what stuck out to me. Your production quality is excellent--your information is great! I would just encourage you to work on your delivery, and maybe even 'salesman' it up a notch. I know you're not selling any one product, and that's fine--but what you ARE selling is your brand, and that's where polishing your delivery up will help *you* shine. All the best, Wes. :)
nice
I think we will soon see off brand batteries.
Has that happened with other Godox lights yet? I wasn’t expecting that.
I’d be a bit wary of off brand batteries in a device with a high current draw like that.
I have AD600BMх2 and iam very happy
What do you shoot?
I’ll be your friend 😃