Godox AD600 Pro Review and Comparison Flashpoint Xplor 600 Pro
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Description
Featuring a 2.4 GHz wireless X system with a range of up to 328', the AD600Pro Witstro All-In-One Outdoor Flash from Godox is a versatile tool compatible with several TTL systems, including Canon E-TTL II, Nikon i-TTL, Sony, and Panasonic. It offers up to 600W/s with nine steps of output power, ranging from 1/1 to 1/256, and comes with a powerful 28.8V/2600mAh lithium-ion battery pack that provides up to 360 full-power flashes in outdoor situations and location shooting. Alternatively, you can run the monolight on AC power with an included cord for when portability is not a concern.
The AD600Pro Witstro features a high-speed sync mode that works with shutter speeds up to 1/8000 seconds, offering flash durations from 1/220 to 1/10,100 seconds. Another unique setting is its Stable color temperature mode, which tightly controls color to keep temperature changes within ±75K across the entire power range. Despite these impressive characteristics, it manages to keep recycling times low at 0.01-0.9 seconds for fast and reliable use, and is capable of 12 continuous pops at 1/16 power output. Finally, a 38W modeling lamp is available to help aid composition.
2.4 GHz wireless system with a range of 328' (100m), featuring five controllable slave groups and 32 channels
Guide number of 285' (87m) at ISO 100
Can work as an optical slave with S1 and S2 modes
Color temperature of 5600K (±200K)
3.5mm sync cord slot for direct connection, wireless control port, and USB Type-C port for firmware upgrades
First curtain and second curtain sync modes
Dot-matrix LCD display for on-board control
Bowens-type mount for use with compatible accessories
Product reviewer here. Thumbs up for honesty for sure. I've seen far too many fake reviews on Amazon just because people want to keep from freebies. *Salutes*
Thank you Charlie! It’s definitely tough to find unbiased content out there, I’m just trying to put out the best information so photographers can benefit. I got plenty of gear, definitely don’t need to add to the pile!
My AD600Pro should be arriving on this Saturday...can't wait to try it since I have been using speedlight in outdoor portraits...it works but not necessarily overpower the sun light.
Great review! I don't have the AD600 but i have used it before a few times and the one thing that bugged me was the weak modeling lamp. With this new improved lamp this will definitely be on my wish list.
Godox Is gonna sell MILLIONS of these. Mine included.
Would love to see a video on how the stable color mode affects photos (samples shown side by side), and how easy is it to correct or match in post.
When it’s 1 light, it’s easy to correct the color temperature because it’s a global adjustment. When it’s 1 light + ambient or multiple strobes, it’s problematic to have color shifts because they can’t be corrected globally, they are shifting relative to one another.
Other reviews are saying the same thing you said about the power. I think based on all the reviews I've seen so far. The selling point is the stable color. Thanks for giving us this review. I think I'll past for now. I already own the Ad600. So I'll be looking for those AD600BM sales LOL.
Great upgrades but not that great to give away my AD600.About the standard ttl as a starting version is not even important.Really good review.
I'm very satisfied with my AD600
So GLAD I got the Pro. That I can beat Profoto & Broncolor at 1/3 cost, beyond my budget, makes me very satisfied..
I kept wondering what was the eighty-six-hundred before I realized you were say AD600 :)
Becouse automatic subtitle 😁
Thanks, Robert! And to your awesome model too!
I will not be upgrading, but think this is still a very good value. Faster recycle is always wwlcome and love the new handle. The color accuracy is fine on my current unit for what I do, but that is a very important improvement for many users. Godox continues to raise the bar and improve value.
Thank you!
You answered a few questions about this product and then some...
Thr godox trigger works with flashpoint?
I have the Xplor x2 with both the 600W and 1200W Extension heads, good stuff. The recycle is desireable and the color improvement is good too. Maybe that frosted head is taking just a little bit of the power away but it could still have less power than the Xplor and outdo the B1 because I think the B1 is only 500Watts.
Can also be light concentration as Robert says in another video. I love using my Godox but with the AD600 the light spread is not nearly as good as my Broncolor. With the Pro, it will likely be much more even when using a standard or 65º reflector, all I wanted.
Great review, you focused on technical details. Keep it going.
thanks for the video. i like the upgraded features but i feel that those are things we should of paid for in version 1. at that price point ill keep the one i have
can't wait for the Manual AD600pro!!
you'll be waiting a while!
Then thank goodness for batch processing
I bought the flashpoint xplor 600 2 weeks ago from adorama, received used item instead of brand new, so just returned them. I think I will just buy the 600pro. Its more expensive, but hopefully being a new item, I won't receive an used unit again. While I prefer bhphoto, I will be buying the 600Pro from adorama for the 3 year warranty vs 1yr warranty.
I have 2 AD600 they are amazing but I am also doing product photography so I need that colour to be consistent. I am going to get one pro version
I ordered the flashpoint ad600 Pro TTL
and should arrive in four days with a notifier p120L deep parabolic,meanly for HSS but also indoor portraits...
I paid $899 I hope 🤞 that this light performs. Oh yah, Adorama give you the remote trigger for free.
BTW Robert, your video is featured in fstoppers in their article about the AD600 pro. Pretty awesome.
I was so excited to see that!
Looks more like the Broncolor 800 L siros to me. Nice looking and the features looks great as well.
I like the new look too, it’s not quite as pretty as others but a step in the right direction.
Is there a timer for the modeling lamp? Can't stand my AD600's modeling lamp that turns off in 10mins on max power. Sucks it can't use the same batteries as the AD600
faced same issue. Did you find any solution?
One question that I did not see addressed (may have missed it) is:
Does the unit fire a pre-flash to get the exposure before firing the flash for the shot?
(Or does the TTL allow the flash to cut off at the exposure set, since it is monitoring exposure through the lens - without needing a pre-flash?)
A pre-flash does cause a brief delay before the exposure, and the flash makes many people blink, so eyes can often be closed in the actual shot.
Thanks!
During the comparison I kept thinking what's the 86 hundred? Good review though. Disappointing that they're not powered by mains too. Question though, with the new bulb with defused glass, I guess that changes the ability to create harsh, sharp, crisp, shadows & creates a diffused light?
You are a machine, Robert! Thank you!
Confused... Flashpoint is exactly the same w/ Godox, it's actually Godox who made flashpoint strobes but flashpoint provides US warranty vs Godox does not. So there is no comparison can be made, they are simply the SAME strobe.
Im having problems with my sony talking to my godox x pro trigger color temp gets weird and ttl doesn't work
Too bad the remote head accessories are not compatible with the new AD600. While the price of the new light might look good in comparison to Profoto and Broncolor, it's a dramatic step up from the existing manual AD600 (which I own) and is also significantly higher than the Paul Buff Einsteins (I know, not internally battery powered) which offer a constant color mode as well (I owned Einsteins; loved the lights, couldn't live with the dreadful Balcar style accessory mount). However, all things considered, looks like Godox has another winner.
Thanks for another excellent, comprehensive, fluff-free review, Robert.
The new 38 watt modeling LED light looks super bright, but in the video it appears to be a much warmer color (like 3000k or so - very gold). Is it very warm, or is it just the appearance in the video? Would you say it is Tungsten color or Daylight color if viewing just the modeling light?
hi Robert , can you help me with my choice , I hesitate to buy the AD400 Pro or the AD600 Pro, along a kit that includes 2 AD200 Pro , I begin in the kind of photography ,can you tell me which one will be better, I will make photo in my small home studio too ( my living room ) lol, and also this summer outside, for portait in bright light situation also in sunset, to overpower the sun( HSS) is the 4000 will be ok or just in case take the 600
thank in advance
Great informative easy to understand video. Thanks!
Deciding between this or the AD400pro for wedding work to go alongside my Ad200 pro. Thoughts?
Robert, AD600 Pro is very similar to AD600B but is $200 more. Would you still recommend AD600Pro over AD600B and is $200 more worthy for new features?
There's no answer to this question, its completely dependent on the user.
Is a 38w modeling lamp worth $200?
Is double the recycle speed worth $200?
Is better bulb design with more even spread worth $200?
Is way more color stability worth $200?
Are those features combined worth $200?
Some will say yes and others no to all 5 of those questions, and that's what should determine the purchasing decision. And my personal decision shouldn't affect anyone else's.
Sorry if you were looking for a yes or no answer here, but my purchasing choice is irrelevant to other users.
Thanks, Rob
I just bought the original AD600, my concern is that they will discontinue the lamp for the original AD600, do you think this concern is warranted?
Great video Robert. I have an AD600Pro as well as several AD600 V1 units. The battery on the Pro doesn't last anywhere near the V1, I mean not even half. Have you found this to be the case with yours?
hi Robert, which umbrella do you recommend me for the Godox AD600 PRO ? is there any budget one that you have used at all?
Thanks
How did you take the reading for output? Why do you think you are getting lower power? Understand that output is a function that is affected by light spread. You are not reading the output from the tube you are reading the output via reflector/ diffuser. Think about it, maybe one is creating a hot spot and that will effect your readings, The new model maybe giving a more even result that will read lower with a meter.
Each of your points is addressed in my FAQ video on the light.
This is a lot of money more for few improvements and same (sufficient) power. Is it really good value for money as the other Godox products ? I will wait several months before buying.
Considering the gap has been closed (ie. color accuracy, better build quality, better design...etc as described), it is still a great value vs other alternatives at $2000 plus right?
Flashpoint XPLOR 600PRO and Gogox AD600 Pro can they be compatible?
Well done Weldon!
Kindly share more information on technical parts or tutorial.
watch the guide instead of the review.
Since i have the older AD600, does this mean I should stock up on replacement bulbs? Are they going to stop making the older replacement bulbs????
Hi Robert,
Please help ...
I bought AD600B from ebay. I am in Australia. It stopped flashing and checked display which says “E1” ... I contacted godox in China. Bo response. I would really appreciate if you could advice me any tips or their contact details so that I can send the wistro for maintenance ...
Thanks
When will these be on the market? I pre-ordered mine and still waiting.
For what I do I wouldn't replace my exsisting AD600 for the newer pro version but I do welcome the improvements Godox have made. I find it a strange ommission that they will only release their " Pro " strobe with TTL rather than a manual option. Surely the Pro's that this is aimed at have a pretty good idea how to strobe without TTL and I'd venture to say few pro's will use the TTL functionality anyway. Just seems to be adding unnecessary cost to me. All in all and even at its higher price point I guess I should be comparing this to more expensive options from the likes of Pro Photo rather than Godox's own AD600. It would also have been nice if they had retained the same battery as the original, maybe the discharge properties of the original were not up to the faster recycle times so it was unavoidable perhaps? Surely it could still have been backwards compatible with the standard AD600 however. Theres no doubt that with this release and its improvements Godox are really attacking the higher end aggressively. With its total compatibility across all camera systems and its system synergy across all its products Godox will prove very hard to beat. 😃
dunnymonster Hi. With the TTL function.. I think you underestimate the “pros” who use some of this stuff. Sure most strobist pros can set up their lights manually in a perfect studio environment with time but the run and gun wedding photographers among us don’t have time to perfectly meter/test shot everything with a bride & groom waiting getting bored or a whole group shot of 20 plus looking at you like you’re an idiot fiddling with lights. This was the reason I originally bough all my profoto gear(godox stuff now looking pretty interesting) for the quick setup TTL so I can concentrate on posing, location, and working with the people for the best possible shots. And hey if they include it and you can just switch it to manual anyway... everyone’s a winner. Cheers.
James C That's a good point to be fair, I use TTL flash ( with full manual camera settings ) in event type photography myself for essentially the same reasons you sited. I guess I was looking more at portrait type work which is where I mainly use strobes. On consideration I forgot that the new X pro trigger which I recently purchased has the new TTL to manual power conversion so I could see that being particularly useful for somebody in your position where you want TTL to get the exposure pretty much bang on first time but you still have the option to tweak its output by reverting to manual without using compensation in TTL. At least this way you can keep your exposures constant without TTL adjusting each shot. I also assume that TTL functionality is simply software implimented so shouldn't add any additional cost in material terms to a manual only strobe? I am an ardent lightmeter user in the main but certainly if I was strobing events where time was of the essence then the AD600 pro would be an excellent choice 😊
dunnymonster About 4-5 years ago the only reliable option I could consider using was, to the detriment of my poor wallet Profoto gear. But with a lot of truly interesting stuff from Godox over the last year or so I am seriously looking at switching to an easier system. The ad200 has been on my radar since its release now as I think that could happily replace my Profoto B2 I could actually buy like 5 ad200 for the same cost. The smaller form factor is so appealing and yes as you pointed out the new godox triggers look awesome. They now do exactly what the profoto triggers do. I just wonder what the power output on the ad200 is compared to the profoto B2. I might just buy one and do some testing. Unless Sir Rob Hall beats me to it. Thanks for the advise on the new trigger I may be about £300 poorer by the end of the weekend now. Cheers
I don't think the "Pro" and "ttl only" have anything to do with each other. I'm thinking that having manual and ttl options of all their lights was stressing on their production. I'm willing to bet the future speedlites will all have a TTL only version, much like the AD200 and AD600 Pro have.
Yeah, thats a great point. Thou I will say a manual option makes the light more obtainable financially. But yeah. It makes no sense to make two versions when one can do both efficiently.
I own a Godox AD600E. The modelling lamp turns off by itself after using it for some time or when I switch on the X1 trigger. This is annoying. Is there any way I can avoid this?
They really should make a manual model as not everyone needs ttl, so would be good to save some $$$
Exactly my thoughts - I only shoot manual
Will you not be able to use this manually?
Joseph Brotherton: Of course you can use it manually - but I would end up paying for the TTL wiich I never use and don't need. Just for comparison: the AD360 and AD600 cost around 150€ more in TTL version.
I'd grab a 750€ non-TTL verson of this flash in a heartbeat to complement my two AD600 and AD200 (and various Godox Li-Ion speedlites) - but on this one I'll pass.
AD600 pro has much more powerful modeling LED vs AD600. Do you think that a pair of these would provide enough continuous lights for headshots? I use AD600 currently in strobe mode and was considering purchasing continuous LEDs but perhaps the PRO version would serve both purposes? Thanks!
Thank you for the review 👍🏻
Thanks Robert!
Would like to see a color comparison of the AD600 pro and the Orlit Rovelight 610 TTL
I’ve already done Orlit vs Ad600, and AD600 vs Pro, from that you should be able to draw any differences!
In the Orlit vs AD600 there was no color variation like the one you did here. But thanks!
You're right i didn't. 600 is +- 200, orlit 610 is +- 150 so just a slight bit better. Then AD600 Pro better than both.
Great review, I was onto these units also. Can you tell me of what would be a good setup for monolights (meaning the Godox Pro series) in number of heads to have enough flexibility? I was looking at a set of both 600 and 400, of course thats the dream, but what be more realistic?
Hey Robert,
Totally new to flash lighst and still researching on the products available. I have QQ, so Flashpoint and Godox are the same company is it? When I look at flashpoint xplor 600 no where it mentions godox and its confusing me.
Flashpoint is Adorama's house brand of lighting. Godox manufacturers the light, Adorama retails it as Flashpoint Xplor 600, and at the end of their listing it says (AD600).
Are you having any issues with TTL on your Sony A7iii? I’m having SEVERE changes in TTL on my A7iii with the AD600 pro. Ready to send it all back. Try taking photos at iso 100, F5.6 in manual mode and move back and forth to your subject (a grey card) that is stationary and my flash is up and down up to 3 stops! It also changes due to F stop in TTL. I’m a pro since 2003 so I know how ttl works, just bummed with this combo and I’m using the Adorama R2 Pro mark 1 and mark 2, both the same. Could you test and let me know?
i have a question, do you know from where can i or we buy separate handle and AC power source for this light??? they show on the official web page thet they do have this accesories but in Adorama or BH they don't' sell
Does the new reflector throw the same light as the old one? Seems like such a radical difference. Thx
will show in follow up video
What do you think about think vs the orlit 610 & 601? Have you use the orlit system?
I'm actually selling my ORLIT 610 and upgrading the to Flashpoint XPLOR 600PRO (Godox AD600 Pro). It should arrive this week.
Stable color, better flashtube design (extends deeper into the softbox than ORLIT), better modeling light, and Godox wireless system is much better than ORLIT.
When I had issues with my Einsteins I decided to go with ORLIT because they offered Canon Speedlites and studio strobes that could be triggered on the same system. I found the wireless system to be unreliable (especially on the Canon 5D Mk4) and wish I would have gone Godox instead. After a few more triggering failures I decided to dump the ORLIT gear and go strictly Flashpoint/Godox.
Already sold 4 of my 9 ORLIT speedlites (which have been replaced by Flashpoint/Godox speedlites), now I need to sell my ORLIT 610 and ORLIT Rover RT, along with three Einsteins. I'm super happy with the Flashpoint/Godox system and wish I would have done it sooner.
It has been 4 years, did you find any solution why the pro light is giving lower output than it's previous ad600 light?
Bcoz many photographers here in India facing the same issue with ad600 pro.
Oh I brought it up right after in a follow up video. It's not lower output, the output is just dispersed more evenly because of the bulb design change. So the AD600 is simply brighter in the center on rear mount softboxes, particularly if theres only one layer of diffusion. Whereas the 600 Pro is a little less bright in the center but the edges are brighter. And if you put it in a beauty dish or reverse mount modifier, there's no difference.
What would be the best way to gel the AD600 Pro?
Any news when the (remote) Extension Head will be available for the Pro version ?
great overview...thanks !!
You’re welcome!
super helpful thank you!!
I can't tilt it
what to do?
Great vid!
Thanks
Too bad they can't seem to get around to releasing the xpro-s TTL triger
Ugh, i'm dying for that to come out since I've switched to Sony. Don't want to go back to the X1-T.
IT IS COMING
not fast enough
Derraivius I am using Canon Version, very Nice!
I am waiting for Sony Version too
@Derraivius, @Sai SAI, @Robert Hall Photography: Actually it's out. I bought mine in Hongkong with 4-day express delivery to Germany.
Excellent video.
Thank you!
Is the recycle time on the pro faster?
Great Video. Thank you very much! Till now I shot with a range of different speedlights. I was wondering if the Godox is compatible to Transmitters like Cactus V6 and YN-622C TX. Does anyone know this?
Curious about the high speed sync recycle times with the Pro compared to the original AD600.
Added to the list for my next FAQ video!
Hi,
Between the Flashpoint and Godox version, what is the difference? I do notice the Godox cost is less. Thanks,
William
no difference. Flashpoint is just Adorama's rebrand in the U.S. They do have a couple exclusives (Manual version of AD600 Pro "Xplor 600 Pro Non-TTL" and updated XPro trigger "R2 Pro II") Godox has rebrands in lots of countries, StrobePro in Canada, Pixapro in UK, etc.
Robert Hall Photography Thank you!!! Do you think the pro is worth the extra$ for general work?? Thanks, William
Did you ever find out about the power output being lower issue? I was just curious if you had released an update on that?
Addressed in my Ad600 Pro FAQ video!
2600 mAh ?? the old one 8700mAh?
Ummm now this looks tempting, my credit card is tingling
🤑🤑🤑
Robert Hall Photography my only concern is battery life in real world scenario, but I always buy spares anyways
Honestly I don’t think I ever killed a battery in a single day when I used the 600. I don’t know that I ever saw 1/3 either. I think I might scoop up the AC adapter with this one though just in case I’m doing something with accuracy I can use it all day alongside the QT600ii
Hey Robert, do you think we will see a bigger battery that will give you 500 full power shots? I think that's the only disadvantage.
Plus, I don't know if I'm the only one but I would have loved to see a 1200w version.
@Jeffrey: For what on earth would you neeed 500 FULL POWER flashes? I do two real life model shootings with one charge of my AD600 battery - mostly the power is between 1/32th and 1/4th in HSS. I really can't remember a situation where I needed full power. But maybe your shooting is different and you need it - I was just curious in what situation that would be...
Good qustion my friend. I do full day weddings and i mostly use HSS at full power here in the sunny caribbean. If I'm doing model shoots, no problem i can do about 3 of them before i drain the battery, weddings on the other hand are a different story, i normally get home with a few shots left but using this new battery i believe I'll see myself changing batteries before the wedding is over even if i do it just to be sure it doesn't go down in the middle of a shot.
Hello. Does the 600pro take a standard bowens 7 inch reflector?
Thanks
yes
We need to see and repeat the test against the Broncolor and the Profoto to see stuff like modes. And also consistency between shots. But even if there is a trick in the results this light seems wonderful. The European brands need to put their act together. Broncolor was unable to provide High-Speed Sync without Godox help, and the new Profoto is a minor improvement as if Godox did not exist. You still can't see the power your lights are at from the remote (depending on the mode).
You mean comparing color in HSS, and freeze modes?
Yes, and also see what settings of the Broncolor and the Profoto. But even if there is a caveat, the results are great. In the paper the Broncolor is better:ruclips.net/video/VGsZDZAJiGk/видео.html but he could be talking about a different metric.
One more question...if I want to use this only or mostly as a continuous light, no flashing, can I? Watching videos, it looks like the modeling light works only in conjunction with the flash. The main reason I would buy this light is to use it as a continuous, battery powered light, which is almost impossible to find. I shoot a ton of ballet dancers on location, and continuous light is much better and safer than having anything pop in their eyes while being lifted or in very difficult poses.
I’m wondering how long the battery will last if this is to be used more as a continuous light. That’s two questions. Sorry!
I wouldn’t use this primarily as an LED because it won’t last long and isn’t extremely light. For dedicated LED you are better off with an SLB60W (over 50% brighter) and longer battery life. Even then at max power it would only last 45 minutes.
Extremely bright*. My example in the video is very close to subject, showing a full dancer would be a completely different story.
And you can set the LED power to whatever you want, even with the flash off or not being triggered.
Interesting...the SLB 60w was the first light recommended for my needs. I didn’t think that would be as bright as the AD600 pro. I don’t mind having multiple battery packs as long as I have the portable, continuous light I need. So you are saying the SLB 60w would be better for me than the AD 600? Sixty watts seems like a table lamp, lol.
The AD600 is a 600w strobe, with a 38w LED. The SLB60w is a 60w LED only. The "600" in AD600 represents it's power draw to power the flash. So the SLB60W is a brighter constant light. And remember LED watts are different than incandescent watts. A 60 watt incandescent is similar in brightness to 13 watts in LED. So 60w in LED is roughly 250 watts in incandescent bulb.
Robert are you using the same reflector on each light or the ones they each came with?
I tested both. I addressed it in my FAQ video.
This is the light that B&H recommended for me, as I need an ac/dc light with a really good modeling lamp. I prefer continuous lighting, and it’s nearly impossible to find battery powered continuous.
I am totally confused as to the lack of manual mode. Even moreso after reading the comments. I do quite a bit of moody shooting, and I have to be able to drop stops etc to get the look I want. Is this not possible with this light?
I have a set of YN speellights which I absolutely love. I assume the Godox on camera trigger will not work with the YN lights, which is a total drag, as I will now have to purchase more Godox lights for my fills and secondary lights? I think? Am I wrong?
Which trigger is the best for fujifilm? The man at B&H said that Godox was just coming out with a fujifilm trigger, but I don’t think that is correct. I believe there were firmware updates awhile ago that made certain Godox triggers fujifilm compatible. Yah, I’m super confused. Help me.
It has manual, all strobes do. TTL is just an additional feature that some have, including this one.
No it won’t work with Yongnuo, it’s designed to work within its own ecosystem. There are Godox receivers that you can put on the shoe of Yongnuo flashes but for full functionality you would want to replace your Yongnuo speedlites with Godox ones.
The best trigger for Fuji is the new XPro-F.
So. Much. Money. What would you recommend as a fill to work with this light?
Also, why are people saying they don’t spot meter with this light?
Thank you so very much for the info. You rock!
I know it seems pricey but think about the level of light this is competing with being 2x more (or 8x as much for a trigger). This system is as affordable as it gets for this much function.
I’d suggest an AD200 or AD360 to fill but they will be a bit less powerful.
How about using a light meter to test the godox pro 600 vs godox ad 600 and see if the godox pro 600 loses more than 1 stop of light. Its closer to 1.3 stops by other testers.
It doesn't. I've addressed that with samples in my AD600 Pro FAQ. AD600 just has a hotter center because of it's worse bulb design. The Pro spreads light way more evenly. So, if you meter in the center the 600 seems more powerful but as soon as you make your way out wards the story flips.
@@robhallphoto None
@@robhallphoto Nonsense!! take a meter reading for both at the center and off center and you will find the pro is slightly over 1 stop less. You should know better than that. Your theory is rubbish!
@@rondeldebbio9219 you're telling me to do the test that I already did to come to that conclusion that you are saying is incorrect lol.
@@robhallphoto If you can provide me with a link where you used a light meter to test the 600 pro vs 600, I'll take a look. Thanks.
Hello. Great review! Unfortunately I had some problems with my ad600pro.
After updating the firmware to 1.5, the Flash always activates the cooling fans at maximum power despite having the pilot lamp off.
I am looking for the old firmware 1.3 or earlier to try the down grade. Do you have any suggestions?
I have no idea how to downgrade firmware, especially since they don't keep a history of it on the website. Don't think thats an option and wouldn't trust an outside source. Unless someone you personally know happens to have the old version which you could try (at your own risk) to install through the installer.
Robert Hall Photography Tank you for your answer
I want to make a decision and let say I need good color but I can live with 200K color shift what is my best option AD600B vs AD600BM vs AD600 pro? Is TTL of AD600B give any added advantage of AD600B?
“I can live with 200k color shift”, sounds like you don’t need the pro. And TTL of the B is completely dependent on your shooting style. If you don’t use it stick with the manual!
Thanks
Nice. Q1. Is the modeling light proportional? Q2. What flash angle (with minimal or zero light vignetting) and type reflector are used to specify the Guide Number?
Q1 is addressed in the video, you can do proportional or dial in a %.
Q2 I’ll be addressing in an FAQ video released this week
Robert Hall Photography - excellent, thanks. Q3 (for the Q&A), in studio and with modifiers, how many stops do you turn power down most of the time? Q4, (1/220 seconds IIRC is not very fast, shortest ~1/18000 IIRC fast enough to freeze) how do you deal with freezing motion? Are flash times as precise/repeatable as color temperature?
Q3) that depends completely on the modifier, subject matter, and goal of the image, there is no typical answer there.
Q4 I do not have the technology to test that so I’m always trusting the manufacturer
wooo nice!
so is the godox ad600 hss or hypersync?
HSS with Godox trigger but you could use HS from another trigger (like supersync on Yongnuo YN622
Hello, how did you write to godox or how do you communicate to godox? I have an issue with the new Trigger X1Pro. When i set in my camera 320FP the i will see my shutter blade in the frame. When i set it ot 250FP then not. With the old XT-1-N I had no issues at all. Its not a big deal. BTW: The camera is a D810.
Back to toppic. I work with the old moddel and i had new issues with the recycle times it is fast enough. The design i dont care, ttl i dont care. I loved to have more shoots instead of having a better recycle time. Nice (down)upgrade, but nothing for me and not for 400 bugs more. Sry godox not worth the upgrade.
You should contact your dealer regarding any issues, not the manufacturer! My test models come from marketing team, they have nothing to do with QA though. The sync speed issue at initial HSS point has been an issue for a while.
So...was the power problem got solved?
Yes, I discussed in AD600 Pro FAQ video
I tried out the original AD 600 and the deal killer for me was the flash did not fire until fully recycled. Does the new pro do the same thing? Or will it go off at partial power? Also flash duration? Looking at the chart is it really 1/250th of a sec? That will not freeze a feather falling. Super curious about these items.
What light would? Most lights at full power are similar flash duration. You still need a full recycle but the decreaded recycle time might mitigate some of your difficulties?
Robert Hall Photography Einsteins and ABs will dump the flash even if they are not fully recycled. I believe in my testing Profoto will too. But yes the recycling will help a lot. It is a really interesting light.
Oh yes, many flashes dump partial recycles. I mean almost all flashes have a high t.1 flash duration near the 200s at peak power. Since the maximum brightness is achieved by extending the duration (not the max brightness), full power on strobes is typically at or near 1/200 to reach the sync speed of most cameras.
Now that Flashpoint has come out with a non-TTL version, is TTL worth the extra $150?
That answer is specific to the photographer buying it.
If your lazy yeah or have no idea how to correctly expose with flash... I have the ad 200 that has ttl and I never use it i ordered the non ttl version of the ad600 pro to save
If it's TTL, does that mean I can't use it manually?
No. TTL is always an added functionality on top of Manual control.
BTW, do you know if they will release a cheaper non TTL version?
Don’t think there is any plan to make one.
Wow, these are HEAVY! Why the discrepancy in weight versus Adorama's website? And I don't see how it can have the same output as the old AD600 with this reflector design. But I could be wrong. I plan to pick up a pair of these later this year but, unfortunately, they might be too heavy for me to travel with. I'll need to get real weights before I invest, as I fly with four lights. Adorama isn't listing these weights, so can you confirm yours are accurate? (I'm sure you measured actual units instead of manufacturer claim)
But the improvements in the design are absolutely tremendous...I'm strongly considering a partial if not full jump to these over time. But I'll need to hear real world feedback and I'll be waiting for a non TTL version since I've never once used TTL on a remote strobe in over eight years of working in the studio. LOL
Discrepancy is because some places weigh the entire unit while others remove the bulb/reflector.
Same with the weight issues. I’m using cheapie YN speedlights, actually pretty great, so easy and light, but no modeling light for continuous. No way I can hike around three of these.
Suzanne Kulperger I can totally understand that, but we're also talking about incredibly different power output as well. One very interesting thing I want to point out is that I too used Yongnuo flashes for my wedding dancefloor perimeter light stuff. Love their light weight and cost, but not enough power for most other work. The R2 radio system in these strobes is also the same as the Godox/Flashpoint speedlights. I actually just bought 5 of those for my remote setup at weddings. Truly flawless incorporation into the system. Very happy. All my lights can now work together.
Hi! Can you link me to the speedlights you bought? My only issue is that I shoot ballet dancers, wanted a continuous battery powered continuous light for certain shots. Can’t have any sort of flashing. This Godox is one of the few with a modeling light that can work as a continuous light. I think. I’m trying to figure out if I can use the modeling light on its own, with no strobing when I shoot.
Suzanne Kulperger you should look at continuous LED lights instead of strobes. Modeling lamps will only remain on for a few minutes (~10-15) before they shut off from temperature and for the product's own safety.
I have 4 of these non TTL lights and one TTL version for on camera that can command the 4 remote lights. All 5 can be put into a channel and work with the AD600 and any of them can control each other. These are the same as the Godox lights but I'm not sure they're on the same radios. I went with Adorama for their superior warranty and customer service versus Godox, which is rumored to be miserable.
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would you be able to use the profoto modifiers on the 600pro it looks like they might fit ??????
With Profoto to Bowens adapter
no, they won't. Even if they did clamp over the front they wouldn't be able to be pushed back very far as the body changes quickly.
Great Update from Godox . Thank your for your video .
why am i struggling to pick between this and the b1x knowing i can save 1,500$
Cause all the extra money that Profoto charges for their light goes to marketing to make you believe Profoto is the required standard in our industry. #resistthefluff
Hey Robert! what is the maximum power at fastest flash duration?
The fastest flash duration occurs at the minimum power, 1/256
Do you know if at 1/8000s flash duration it will be t0.1 or t0.5?