Enjoy your tutorials very much. I am learning much about locks that I almost never get to pick or inspect. Very few good European locks around for me to pick. And most are very expensive to buy new. You teach and I learn. Thank you.
Thanks... some of these locks are pricy, but most of mine are the product of ebay bargain hunting or trades. It takes some of the sting out of the collection.
update : Trick: If you do not have an Easy Shackle Change Tool handy and need to change out a shackle, you can open the lock, install the Z-bar upside down (dot is not visible any more), insert the cylinder into the padlock and rotate the key to the open position. Hold under tension and you will be able to pull the shackle out. There are some locksmiths that were under the impression that they use the Z-bar for key-retaining and for non-key-retaining they just flip the Z-bar around. This did work OK on Series 1 but not Series 2
@@lockpickinglawyer Was it solely due to the presence of master wafers? Newbie questions : 1) Why putting master wafers in the upper part of the core? 2) Is the Schlage 300 series core C keyway would be harder to pick or it only depends on the pins installed? Thank you!
Hi LPL, I bought one of these a couple of years ago, we've used it at work until I last week after I got into researching locks and chains mainly for my boys bike, bought some picks and locks and after a couple of days thought I'd go for the "paragon" I thought I'd bought back then - I got so outraged at the ease of picking the lock I got that I bought a video camera, two new locks (one abus plus crred to replace the original and another 83cs/55 as a reality check) then started a youtube channel (no viewers other than me so far, but that's not what its there for). Interestingly, my first Abus was also 5/6 pins, all of the top pins were identical to yours, the lowers all seemed to start out as a long spool, the shorter ones turned down into "T-pins" from the top of the spool. If I'd seen your video first I might not have made mine (but I was so annoyed I probably would have to be honest) - if you're interested it's ruclips.net/video/Fdxb8E7138s/видео.html
Very nice pick, I will have to get that series of Abus. I am intrigued on how the Z bar works, so best way to understand it is to examine it in action of course. Well that's what I am telling my wife, hope she goes for it. lol
Thanks... if it helps, tell your wife that the plan is "LockPickingLawyer Approved"! That definitely doesn't work in my house, but maybe you will get lucky.
I tried to get that Huge Rock lock at US Lock here in town. They have it on an ABUS display but of course no longer sell it lol. any who awesome video again sir!
Nice picking on this great looking lock. I don't understand why manufacturers use these wide open and straight keyways. The shape with the warding is for key-control, I believe, but does not affect picking. I my opinion a nasty, curved, narrow keyway is a great measure against picking. What do you think - why didn't they choose a better keyway?
I agree with you. Blocking access to the pins is the single most effective anti-pick feature out there, and nasty paracentric keyways are one of the most simple, cost-effective ways restrict access. I don't fully understand why better keyways are not more common. I suspect that practical considerations get in the way. Paracentric keyways can lead to keys that are weak (bend/break easily) and have sharp edges... two things that consumers probably don't like. They are probably more expensive to produce (both locks and keys), which consumers are not willing to pay for. Most of that is guessing.
How would you make this lock more secure? I'm thinking about buying one, but after seeing this (and other) videos of the picking, I don't know if I should buy it.
If I wanted to replace the lock core with a different one, what would I look for? Are there different sizes, styles, brands that work with this lock? Now sure how this works
nice pic. Did this lock come with the master key? Perhaps thats why Master lock Company calls them self master. Because they're so easy to pick, similar to a lock with mastering wafers in it....
good job mate, hay correct me if I'm wrong but if you install the Z bar so the black dot is facing up instead of down, it also makes it non key retaining and you won't loose it. (but that might just have been with the earlier red dot ones.)
So I recently picked up this hobby and I can't seem to figure it out. The false sets won't let go if I drop into one. I'm using this exact type of lock and I have to completely restart. I also can't get my tensioner to hold the lock properly. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Nice pick. I hate master waffers and 2 sheer lines (ie.Best). Both for different reasons. Thx again for the locks got everything except for the DOM. Even popped my Lockwood a couple times.
can this lock be bypassed? maybe with a driver or is this c clip preventing that? Or are there other methods to bypass this lock, if this is even possible?
Love love love those "rocks"😘😘😘😍😍😍🍻👍👍😎 Just a quick note, Anyone putting these locks back together should be careful not to let the detention pin enter the bible and a pin stack chamber or its game over and very difficult to get it back out!!!!!
Where the upward movement of the key and/or driver pins causes the flat-ish edges of security pins to be forced against another flat-ish edge on the lock bible entrance which creates counter-rotation on the lock cylinder. Lightening up a bit on the tension will allow the cylinder to counter-rotate just enough to allow the edges of the security pin to pass into the bible entrance.
Trying to pick mine which I was received as gift without keys, but without success after many hours =\ The best what I get is deep false set and when start to deal with spools at pin 3 loose all other no mater which hook I use. So as final solution I will drill hole to remove pin 3 and try again, not pretties solution but sometimes is only possible.
Good thing to note, be EXTREMELY careful when removing the core (and reinserting). If you rotate the cylinder accidentally you will end up with that detent up in the bible and it's nearly impossible to get it out.
Good point. That's a big design flaw IMO. There is nothing that stops Abus from making the detent larger than the driver holes, but they chose to use the little one that can easily lock the core up.
Well, this is disappointing. This is about the size padlock I need. The price is right, $50 on Amazon. Hardened steel and good shackle protection, but not pick resistant. Replaceable core, but not a standard form factor.
![[565] Abus "Rock" 83/80 Picked and Ramset Attack Planned](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/opf1XI7vZ5Q/mqdefault.jpg)
![[565] Abus "Rock" 83/80 Picked and Ramset Attack Planned](/img/tr.png)
![[275] Hugo "Cobra" 61P Padlock (6 Trap Pins!) Picked and Gutted](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xHHtAecAyh4/mqdefault.jpg)
Enjoy your tutorials very much. I am learning much about locks that I almost never get to pick or inspect. Very few good European locks around for me to pick. And most are very expensive to buy new. You teach and I learn. Thank you.
Thanks... some of these locks are pricy, but most of mine are the product of ebay bargain hunting or trades. It takes some of the sting out of the collection.
Seems to go into quite a deep false sets. Lovely picking as always. That 83/80 is a beast! Must have missed that vid. I'm off to go find it...
Thanks.
update : Trick: If you do not have an Easy Shackle Change Tool handy and need to change out a shackle, you can open the lock, install the Z-bar upside down (dot is not visible any more), insert the cylinder into the padlock and rotate the key to the open position. Hold under tension and you will be able to pull the shackle out. There are some locksmiths that were under the impression that they use the Z-bar for key-retaining and for non-key-retaining they just flip the Z-bar around. This did work OK on Series 1 but not Series 2
Interesting... thanks for the info.
thank
can't believe how quickly you opened that one! that repining window is well useful. very informative!!!
Thanks... I was a bit surprised how easily this one opened myself.
@@lockpickinglawyer Was it solely due to the presence of master wafers? Newbie questions : 1) Why putting master wafers in the upper part of the core? 2) Is the Schlage 300 series core C keyway would be harder to pick or it only depends on the pins installed? Thank you!
Interesting seeing older videos like this again, definitely different from the newer videos
Hi LPL, I bought one of these a couple of years ago, we've used it at work until I last week after I got into researching locks and chains mainly for my boys bike, bought some picks and locks and after a couple of days thought I'd go for the "paragon" I thought I'd bought back then - I got so outraged at the ease of picking the lock I got that I bought a video camera, two new locks (one abus plus crred to replace the original and another 83cs/55 as a reality check) then started a youtube channel (no viewers other than me so far, but that's not what its there for). Interestingly, my first Abus was also 5/6 pins, all of the top pins were identical to yours, the lowers all seemed to start out as a long spool, the shorter ones turned down into "T-pins" from the top of the spool. If I'd seen your video first I might not have made mine (but I was so annoyed I probably would have to be honest) - if you're interested it's ruclips.net/video/Fdxb8E7138s/видео.html
Nice video... subbed for some more good stuff. Notably, your 83cs/55 would be vastly improved by rekeying with better bitting.
Decimated another Abus . Great job picking brother!
I have the exact same lock (Abus 83CS/55) but the keyway on mine - bought in 2018- has an different keyway, making it harder to pick.
Very nice pick,
I will have to get that series of Abus. I am intrigued on how the Z bar works, so best way to understand it is to examine it in action of course. Well that's what I am telling my wife, hope she goes for it. lol
Thanks... if it helps, tell your wife that the plan is "LockPickingLawyer Approved"! That definitely doesn't work in my house, but maybe you will get lucky.
+LockPickingLawyer lmao haha. Worth a try
I tried to get that Huge Rock lock at US Lock here in town. They have it on an ABUS display but of course no longer sell it lol. any who awesome video again sir!
Thanks... get the big rock on Amazon. They are well below MSRP, and often below the used prices on ebay!
I'll check it out. Thanks!
Nice picking on this great looking lock. I don't understand why manufacturers use these wide open and straight keyways. The shape with the warding is for key-control, I believe, but does not affect picking. I my opinion a nasty, curved, narrow keyway is a great measure against picking. What do you think - why didn't they choose a better keyway?
I agree with you. Blocking access to the pins is the single most effective anti-pick feature out there, and nasty paracentric keyways are one of the most simple, cost-effective ways restrict access. I don't fully understand why better keyways are not more common. I suspect that practical considerations get in the way. Paracentric keyways can lead to keys that are weak (bend/break easily) and have sharp edges... two things that consumers probably don't like. They are probably more expensive to produce (both locks and keys), which consumers are not willing to pay for. Most of that is guessing.
LockPickingLawyer Thanks for your considerations. They sound reasonable.
How would you make this lock more secure? I'm thinking about buying one, but after seeing this (and other) videos of the picking, I don't know if I should buy it.
If I wanted to replace the lock core with a different one, what would I look for? Are there different sizes, styles, brands that work with this lock? Now sure how this works
nice pic. Did this lock come with the master key? Perhaps thats why Master lock Company calls them self master. Because they're so easy to pick, similar to a lock with mastering wafers in it....
I just got one key with this... I removed the wafers and used new key pins when putting this lock back together.
Awesome picking of course but thanks for the for the rest of the demo always nice to learn new stuff.
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Good job not letting the detent go into the driver chambers by mistake!
LOL... that's a good way to ruin your day.
Recently got an 83cs/55 keyed up with an assa twin! One hell of a secure lock
good job mate, hay correct me if I'm wrong but if you install the Z bar so the black dot is facing up instead of down, it also makes it non key retaining and you won't loose it. (but that might just have been with the earlier red dot ones.)
Thanks. I always thought that also, but I recently ran across a lock that wouldn't work with the Z bar in upside down...
The new ones with the black dot go into shackle-ejection mode if the Z bar is installed facing the core.
Excellent as always sir, thank you. also thanks for demoing the zbar. I see what I did wrong. Thanks!!
Thanks, and glad the video helped.
where did you get this lock? That looks like one of Abus' restricted keyways.
Ebay... was pretty dirty with tree sap and dirt when I got it, but she cleaned up nice.
Interesting, never seen a pinning window before. Nice picking too!
They are convenient to the end user... particularly if they are not pros.
the spiral snail lock does not require any existing picking tools as it does not have a core to require them.
So I recently picked up this hobby and I can't seem to figure it out. The false sets won't let go if I drop into one. I'm using this exact type of lock and I have to completely restart. I also can't get my tensioner to hold the lock properly. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Would a slide hammer pull the core straight out of the bottom do you think I noticed the larger lock has a drill plate and this one does not ?
Great picking sir. Thumbs up.
Thanks.
Nice pick. I hate master waffers and 2 sheer lines (ie.Best). Both for different reasons. Thx again for the locks got everything except for the DOM. Even popped my Lockwood a couple times.
Thanks... I have a video of picking that DOM posted. It's a tricky little lock and, if memory serves, it may have some master wafers.
I've got one with a Medeco cylinder. Should that be pretty good?
well explained. nice job. now i know what to do with the zzźzBar..Just a good video.
Thank you.
can this lock be bypassed? maybe with a driver or is this c clip preventing that? Or are there other methods to bypass this lock, if this is even possible?
Love love love those "rocks"😘😘😘😍😍😍🍻👍👍😎
Just a quick note,
Anyone putting these locks back together should be careful not to let the detention pin enter the bible and a pin stack chamber or its game over and very difficult to get it back out!!!!!
Thanks, and LOL at your warning. I bet there's a story involving much profanity behind those words of wisdom!
+LockPickingLawyer I wouldn't like to go over painful ground again 😂😂😢
What do you mean by "key retaining"
Hi, how does the small dimples on the core offer drill protection? Thank you.
Usually they're steel ball bearings which will spin and deflect your drill bit, making it very difficult to drill out the core.
Abus 83cs55 Can I fit a 13mm chain?
What is counter rotation? I felt it sometimes, now I'm curious why
Where the upward movement of the key and/or driver pins causes the flat-ish edges of security pins to be forced against another flat-ish edge on the lock bible entrance which creates counter-rotation on the lock cylinder. Lightening up a bit on the tension will allow the cylinder to counter-rotate just enough to allow the edges of the security pin to pass into the bible entrance.
Nice pick, thanks for sharing
Thanks.
It would be nice if they put a cerrated spool in the 6 hol😢
can this lock be bypassed?
Trying to pick mine which I was received as gift without keys, but without success after many hours =\ The best what I get is deep false set and when start to deal with spools at pin 3 loose all other no mater which hook I use. So as final solution I will drill hole to remove pin 3 and try again, not pretties solution but sometimes is only possible.
absolutely insane
Thanks, I think... :-)
oh no I just bought this type of padlock and forgot to consider on picking side.
Good thing to note, be EXTREMELY careful when removing the core (and reinserting). If you rotate the cylinder accidentally you will end up with that detent up in the bible and it's nearly impossible to get it out.
Good point. That's a big design flaw IMO. There is nothing that stops Abus from making the detent larger than the driver holes, but they chose to use the little one that can easily lock the core up.
I think they assume that people will use the window instead of removing the core.
Well, this is disappointing. This is about the size padlock I need. The price is right, $50 on Amazon. Hardened steel and good shackle protection, but not pick resistant. Replaceable core, but not a standard form factor.
The Boss
the little rock
As I proceed to bend my pick, then my tension bar. I guess this hobby isn't for everyone. Ah well, cool vid nonetheless
So , not to bad
Picked in 30s
FIRST
Not only first, but the first ever "First" comment on one of my videos. That's some sort of milestone, right?
+LockPickingLawyer so early not even a description
Fix this video