I think what isayama is really trying to do with aot is making a story without a main vilain he wants to show us that being Good or evil depends on which perspective you have
Even Thanos' intention is pure, because he did it to repopulate the people, not just to satisfy his killing desire! Because Thanos believed that the way that worked on his hometown can work on the other planets as well
Hang Long Yes although commiting genocide with a Malthusian outlook across the universe has a limited appeal to those who didn’t share Thanos’s P.O.V. Especially when it’s applied on a universal scale to wiping out half the population of same universe.
I don’t see Zeke as the villain either. You did bring up multiple good points about Zeke being troubled and ended up carrying out a plan Marley would vote for, but let’s not forget that he is still in SPITE of them. Zeke see’s the current situation the world is in and realised there is no peaceful outcome. If the Eldians live on, break past their walls and spread all over the world, the Threat of the Titans spread with them. And siding with Marley to enslave Eldians is also wrong and won’t solve the war. I believe Zeke despite having a supervillain plan, is the ONLY character in Attack on Titan who has the will to end the Titan war in the most humane way as possible, by both understanding the Horrors of a Titan transforming population, and in spite of Marley. I believe if Zeke had the ability to remove the Titan transforming ability from Eldians like how the Royal Family with the Co-ordinate was able to do, she would have done so. But because of the memories of old kings, that option is no longer possible. So it’s a choice now.. do we let the 400 year Long war continue for centuries and possibly forever? Or does Zeke need to get his hands bloody and save the world from the threat of Titans forever? Not by killing Eldians, but by giving them a full life without giving birth. So no more Conflict and suffering needs to be dealt. Idk. I know what Zeke is doing is horrible, but I see him more as the only one willing to sacrifice his humanity to bring real change. I still say Yimir and King Fritz as the real villains of the story. Everyone else are victims trying to achieve their own version of peace, some are a bit more naive than others.
After attack on Liberio coalition of countries won`t leave any chance Eldians to live peacefully until their death. His plan is guarantee that survivor Eldians will dead. So he actually want to kill every one of them. Maybe despite his words about understanding the world he just doesn`t like Eldians because of his parens
@@supremeverdict359 AFAIK neon genesis doesn't have a discriminated race being pushed to fight against themselves because of differing ideologies on how to end the suffering and hatred while other races are forced to hate this race as an evolutionary defensive measure while also being driven by socioecopolitical interests of the nations.
Other than Ymir Fritz for making a deal with the devil to start all this crap... I'd have to say humanity itself is the greatest threat in the AOT universe
@@Catalyst_08 That's true but think about it. Ymir might of left the power of the titans to help mankind. If thats the case humans are the true villains because they corrupted a precious gift and used it for warfare
@@htmsports2598 Let's be serious though, knowing human nature of selfishness should've brought many red flags for granting such power to humanity in the first place
Lemming684 wow you wouldn’t say armin a true master of hindsight and telling the audience what they have already deduced from the information we have been given is always right?!? Wow I’m truly surprised
I 100% do not believe Eren is going to compelete Zeke's plan. Zeke's plan goes against Eren's entire ideology, and the ideology of the Attack Titan and all of it's users throughout history. I believe Eren is aware of Zeke's royal blood, and because of that is using Zeke to complete HIS ultimate goal. Which is the defeat of all the enemies and oppressors to the Eldians. While Zeke is playing 4D chess, Eren is playing Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fouth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker. ...And he's winning...
I want to believe that but i feel like the titan he recently ingested messed up his ideology. Eren's ideology past the age of like 15 was just the Attack Titan and a lil Founding Titan but now he's got 3 titans messing around in his head.I really hope you're right tho
@@smolangryoreo6586 While it's very likely that having three different titans COULD mess with your head a little, it takes allot more than that to completely change the ideology of a human being. Humans are extremely stubborn creatures in regards to thought and ideology. And Eren is no exception, being an extra stubborn human. Those who believe a human's ideology can change as easily as that forget just how stubborn we humans can be about what we think.
@@smolangryoreo6586 May very well not be 100% correct But I have a feeling I'm MOSTLY correct. May not hit the bull's eye but I'm pretty sure I'm damn close
Bertholdt said : "No one wrong, Because this world is just that Cruel" No one Villian, just different thoughts. The true Villian maybe this Cruel World
Absolutely agree with you that why I feel despite the current situation _it's still way way way way way to much and complicated in good way to much to wrap up or finish in a to have just simple answer. Your right there's no true villain or evil in that sense it's perspectives with no simple answers
"But ultimately I believe Eren will reject Zeke's euthanasia plan and i believe he will do his best to find a solution that would allow the Eldians to co-exist with the other nations." Eren: Lol no.
My brother thinks OPM is boring cause "he can just defeat anyone whats so cool about that" but the interesting part is how other heroes fight and how the villians fight the other heroes, at least to me.
@@isaiasmmmmm2784 opm is cool for me beacuse even tho Saitama can defeat them with just one punch and is one of the strongest heroes in the world he still isn't satisfied and want's to find someone who can give him a run for his money.
I want Zeke and Eren to defeat Marley, but I hope Zeke is persuaded to abandon his original plan and carry out a plan that destroys the oppressive nation.
Marley is actually the figure of Nazi, if you look at it closely. And the story of Zeke accusing his parents is no coincidence! Zeke Yeager's story was a reference to Pavlik Morozov, a young teenager who accused his own parents in Soviet Union time. The boy died in 1932, and that was a true story. In short, this manga/anime here is obviously a reference to Nazi/Jewish/Soviet Union Not to mention, if you look at the map, it is also a reference to Taiwan and Mainland China nowadays. Mainland China is the big island, while Taiwan is a little island, just like the map in Attack on Titan. This manga is really a reference to many things here!
@@_anterix_2953 Here is the story about Pavlik Morozov www.mod-langs.ox.ac.uk/russian/childhood/pavlikmorozov.htm That's just one thing. If you notice, the 9 stars arm band that Eldians wear, it is exactly the same arm band that Jewish had to wear during the time German's rule. Just that, in the manga, the stars are 9 stars, while in history, it was 6 stars. That, and another thing, this is just my opinion, that the Survery Corps look like a reference to the Kuomintang Army, since they have a lot of things in common. And the symbols of both flags are kinda the same. The blue sun and white sky, while the symbols of the Survey Corps are the Wings also have Blue and White as the main colors theme.
Okay, your points about Zeke are pretty good. Here are my thoughts: At first, we were to believe that the "villain" was Titans. And now the "villain" is portrayed to be other humans (Marly). Although, after reading the most recent chapters I've come to believe that the villain is really both but neither at the same time. Ymir Fritz gained a gift in order to help humans grow and adapt. But, after Ymir's death, humanity began to misuse this gift for greed and power; turning this gift into a penalty. Thus leading separation and hate between races. Because Humanity fell to their sins and tried to use the Titans for their own personal gains they are now victims of their own desires. Yet they may have never gone down this path in life if the Titans never existed at all (at least not to this insane level). And the Titans....well like it was said in the video; they just follow their instincts. So while, yes, I could say that _everyone_ is the villain, but honestly, everyone is a victim. "to be drunk on something to just keep pushing on; everyone was a slave to somethin' ". I think this line from Kenny is the true message Attack on Titan portrays amazingly!
Its yah boi PaPa Franku in the manga it says that after Eldia defeated all enemy countries, infighting started between the 9 titan factions. The 145th king saw this infighting and wanted to put a stop to the war quickly, so he joined with the Tyber family and made a random Marleyan “Heros” out to be the hero of Marley who defeated Eldia via infiltration. In reality tho the 145th King ended it.
Just to reference the manga we’re talking about, Eren Kruger spoke of it well. It’s largely a matter of perspective, “There is no such thing as truth in this world. That is our reality. Anyone can become a god or a devil. All it takes is for someone to claim that to be the truth”. A bit flowery but the general idea is that humanity is commonly its own worst villain. Selfishness, revenge etc. Eldians oppressed others, now Marleyans oppress them in exchange, all that stuff about a cycle of hatred and violence.
Marley has become even worse than Eldians. If we're based on Manga, then what Marley did to the other nations could not be said that "Different" to what Eldians did when Eldians had Titan powers. The only difference here is the Government who uses that power, the Marley instead of Eldia.
If you would be given a gun and told "Kill two innocents or your [insert family member you have the strongest connection to] dies.", what would you choose (not accepting a third option)? I find this an interesting question. Just imagining the answer is difficult. Choosing one would most likely be impossible for me. If you think about it, both Reiner (after realizing the propaganda was just that) and Eren made the same decision. They chose to kill innocents to protect their loved ones. Reiner to avoid his family to be turned into mindless Titans, a fate many agree on being worst than death, due to choosing to not continue the mission. Eren to avoid his loved ones being killed when Marley someday rolls in with an overwhelming force including but not limited to a fleet of airships. The only two differences I see hear are: 1. Reiner and the other warriors came as attacker while Eren came as a defender. ["Attack is the best defence"] 2. Eren hasn't shown any regrets yet for killing innocents, only that Sasha died because of his actions while Reiners guilt broke his psyche in two and he is repeatedly thinking about suicide. So I guess that makes it even? Regardless, I still find this question quite interesting because of its challenging nature. No matter what you choose, the choice is still wrong. Be it on a logical or emotional level.
I think Eren was trying to protect Mikasa and Armin by convincing them he was bad so he could make it seem he was trying to I guess “help” Zeke, but idk 🤷♀️
I agree with you, i think the Marleyians are the enimies / villain, they are the ones attacking eldians, and i think Eren should destroy the Marley military or whatever, he should get Zeke with him on that plan, maybe even reiner (if he is still alive) and annie (eren gets the jaw titan to open up annie
Even if they wiped out all the Marlyeans would they be free? No the rest of the world would fight them, so they would be stuck in constant conflict, even if they wipe out everyone but the Eldians can they be morally justified? They would end up fighting each other as long as their is a struggle for power. Good and Evil are subjective and bendable ideologies
I TOTALLY agree with everything you said!!, be a human doesn't necessarily mean you are the good guy, be a human means you have the opportunity to show you are better than others, making the right choice , like be a monster or a demon doesn't neccessarily mean you are the villan. WE(the humans) are the ones who create monsters making the wrong choice ,It's the hate we genearte making the wrong choice that is going to affect the people around us, letting them make the wrong choice and eventually become the real monster.....
Marley is obvious the true evil villains, they changed history by making the founding titan (ymir fritz) look bad, also some eldians are bad too for using the titan power for their own greed.
we have always been told the difference between a hero and a villain good and evil a savior and a lost cause but what if I told you the only true difference is just who's telling the story.. That's all I have to say
Basically whenever you think you’ve found the villain, remember you didn’t. You will get mind fucked and end up feeling for every body you think you hate
Also, I don’t think Zeke is as much of a villain as everyone else. Yes, he is a villain, and yes, his plan is pretty bad. But the fact that Eldians can turn into Titans presents a threat to the entire world, especially when you take into account the “rumbling”. If there are no Eldians, the world is safer. I still don’t support it but I think I understand.
You keep hesitating to mention that eldians can turn into titans. A lot of your arguments fall apart about "the marleyans are evil" etc. by leaving that detail out
- Queue WWE style entrance - Hooded figure walks through the tunnel, lights, pyrotechnics, and crowd - Zeke, Eren and everyone who is thought to be a villain: :O - *removes hood - IT’S RACISM
Well actually, Annie wanted to *choose* to abandon the mission. But Reiner and Berthold basically forced her to continue onwards, by making her think she *didn't have a choice.* (7:58)
Yeah she was more hesitant. She still could have said no and abandoned it on her own though. She was in the Military Police Beigade so it's not like she was being watched by Reiner and Bertolt all the time.
What’s really ironic, there were no more titans in the world. Marlay and Zeke keep creating them trying to achieve their goals. I’m sure there’s a message about how the lust for more power makes monsters of us all or something
Oh and ur question at the end: I don't think he ever abandoned his friends. I believe he still cares for them, and he def doesn't like alienating them as it appeared to me in chp 113 in that one panel of him just looking out the window. He def showed some sad emotions when he made Mikasa upset in chp 102, not to mention Sasha in chp 105. He's clearly putting up an act to Zeke, while showing enough evidence to us readers that he isn't truly aligned with him. He's clearly pulling a Kruger here, and even though Armin is afraid that Eren is going to do the rumbling still, pretty sure the genius will be in for a suprise.
Marlay is pretty bad, but it's also important to note that they're trying to stay relevant against a nation that, they think, is holding the world hostage with a world-ending WMD. I think Isayama's whole point is that it isn't clear who started the fire; someone has to put it out. Whether that's by forgiveness and trust, like Mr. Braus (and even the King, with respect to Kenny Ackerman), or by doing what has to be done to win (like Grisha and Eren), Marley isn't the ultimate evil in the world; human nature itself is the evil.
Zeke wants Eldians to simply not exist because he thinks it is way harder living as a "Monster" and being discriminated, he doesnt simply think they shouldn't exist from what the ancestors did.
In BlackClover the enemy is the Anime Studio... 🤦♀️😆🤣
I have to admit that is true. They didn’t do a good job.
yea that anime sucked it's childish as hell
They arent they are doing the real world as an anime they are shoeing that monsters arent the real monsters and human is the real monster
Yep. I lol'ed when he said that
😂 💀
I think what isayama is really trying to do with aot is making a story without a main vilain he wants to show us that being Good or evil depends on which perspective you have
thats honestly why it makes it so good. because it gives you both sides and then also the personal conflicts with each person.
I agree. After watching the anime, I had to sit down and actually think about who the "villain" was. Good and bad humans on both sides.
Kinda like tokyo ghoul
🙌🏾
@@legionmaniac-9202 ew no
The real monsters are the salt traders who keep stealing the salt from eren
I think Eren is still salty enough. Look what he did to Micasa.
@@EierFlip i really cant get over the fact than THAT happened
hahaha lol 💀
Poor Eren ain’t gon get no Mikasa pussy
@@superbobomario8849 thanks to his "direct" approach or because your ship sank there? :D
Monster's aren't Born, they are Made.
Well said
But sometimes monster's are born, anyways I agree
Monsters are boron too.
For those who wants to know the answer of the title:
18:20
KnineDoesGaming thank you commander
You the real mvp
Thank you.
Gosh that’s so close to the end 😭
Top 10 anime betrayals
Yes.. I strongly agree with you.. The villain in this anime is human itself.. just like bertholdt say " this world is just that cruel "
Eren said it first ,episode 24 season 1
Oh right! I forget about it! 😂 .. damn..
I don't believe his theory is valid I'm truly thinking he's trying to be as sweet and as kindhearted as he can be
So u guys are evil fuck u bitches
@@LordBaron1 you are not human being? so.. what are you? pig?
Basically Zeke is like thanos who wants to take out half the population
Glad you said Zeke and not Eren tbh lol
Even Thanos' intention is pure, because he did it to repopulate the people, not just to satisfy his killing desire!
Because Thanos believed that the way that worked on his hometown can work on the other planets as well
@@hanglong8056 "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
@@cha5
Yeah, but in this case, it's a "Must intention"
Hang Long Yes although commiting genocide with a Malthusian outlook across the universe has a limited appeal to those who didn’t share Thanos’s P.O.V.
Especially when it’s applied on a universal scale to wiping out half the population of same universe.
I don’t see Zeke as the villain either. You did bring up multiple good points about Zeke being troubled and ended up carrying out a plan Marley would vote for, but let’s not forget that he is still in SPITE of them. Zeke see’s the current situation the world is in and realised there is no peaceful outcome. If the Eldians live on, break past their walls and spread all over the world, the Threat of the Titans spread with them. And siding with Marley to enslave Eldians is also wrong and won’t solve the war. I believe Zeke despite having a supervillain plan, is the ONLY character in Attack on Titan who has the will to end the Titan war in the most humane way as possible, by both understanding the Horrors of a Titan transforming population, and in spite of Marley.
I believe if Zeke had the ability to remove the Titan transforming ability from Eldians like how the Royal Family with the Co-ordinate was able to do, she would have done so. But because of the memories of old kings, that option is no longer possible. So it’s a choice now.. do we let the 400 year Long war continue for centuries and possibly forever? Or does Zeke need to get his hands bloody and save the world from the threat of Titans forever? Not by killing Eldians, but by giving them a full life without giving birth. So no more Conflict and suffering needs to be dealt.
Idk. I know what Zeke is doing is horrible, but I see him more as the only one willing to sacrifice his humanity to bring real change.
I still say Yimir and King Fritz as the real villains of the story. Everyone else are victims trying to achieve their own version of peace, some are a bit more naive than others.
i guess its the devil who gave power of human titan.just like in case of deathnote the devil might be bored n wanted enjoyment.
After attack on Liberio coalition of countries won`t leave any chance Eldians to live peacefully until their death. His plan is guarantee that survivor Eldians will dead. So he actually want to kill every one of them. Maybe despite his words about understanding the world he just doesn`t like Eldians because of his parens
He is a villain.
The story of attack on titan is absolutely tje most unique story in anime ever created period
Facts
Ray l Aot is inspired from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Ray l so unique it has me confused lmao
@@supremeverdict359 ive never seen neon genisis
@@supremeverdict359 AFAIK neon genesis doesn't have a discriminated race being pushed to fight against themselves because of differing ideologies on how to end the suffering and hatred while other races are forced to hate this race as an evolutionary defensive measure while also being driven by socioecopolitical interests of the nations.
I deadass always felt that Isayama took heavy inspiration from Nazi Germany for Marley tbh
Damn ikr
Wow, you're deduction skills are impressive 🙄
@Gameboy224 Marley only spared them for the country's own personal gain but I do agree to an extent with your comment
@@danielobrien1989 I am even more impressed at your spelling skills.
but dont forget the marleyans were oppressed by eldians before they took control so i guess its about the cycle of hatred revenge n domination
Ss1: Titan
Ss2: Titan
Ss3: zeke jeager
Ss4:EREN!
Zeke Yeager as the hero for Season 3 and Eren Yeager as the hero for Season 4? Yeah, I completely agree with you.
Ss1: Annie
Ss2: Bertoto Reiner
Ss3: Rod reiss Bertoto Zeke Reiner
Ss4: EREN
Y eren
Season 2 Smiling Titan
Eugene Kirby Salazar bruh
Other than Ymir Fritz for making a deal with the devil to start all this crap... I'd have to say humanity itself is the greatest threat in the AOT universe
It's not confirmed that's what happened. That's part of Marley's propaganda against Eldians.
@@htmsports2598
True, but whoever was responsible for the titans coming into play
@@Catalyst_08 That's true but think about it. Ymir might of left the power of the titans to help mankind. If thats the case humans are the true villains because they corrupted a precious gift and used it for warfare
Alpha Gamer08 Nah shit dumbass, this story is based on humans
@@htmsports2598 Let's be serious though, knowing human nature of selfishness should've brought many red flags for granting such power to humanity in the first place
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Epic line as always
Remember when humanity’s biggest enemies were Titans?
Ill do you one better. Remember when the only humans were inside the walls?
NCR Ranger 13 I’ll do you one even better
Remember when Eren was your typical shonen anime protagonist?
@@hellothere6142 I'll do you one better.Remember when this anime made you hope for a good ending.
I'll so you one better WHY IS GAMORA
Wait...
@@Kossestu I'll do you even better
Remeber when attack on titans
Was about attacking titans
FACT N.1: Armin's deductions have always been proved right
Lemming684 wow you wouldn’t say armin a true master of hindsight and telling the audience what they have already deduced from the information we have been given is always right?!? Wow I’m truly surprised
What is FACT N.2 ?
@@grahamwebb7885 lol yeah right
he once misread Bertholdt and got Hangi's squad killed
Crazy Banana they are not main characters so their survival rate is less then 1%
I 100% do not believe Eren is going to compelete Zeke's plan. Zeke's plan goes against Eren's entire ideology, and the ideology of the Attack Titan and all of it's users throughout history.
I believe Eren is aware of Zeke's royal blood, and because of that is using Zeke to complete HIS ultimate goal. Which is the defeat of all the enemies and oppressors to the Eldians.
While Zeke is playing 4D chess, Eren is playing Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fouth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker.
...And he's winning...
I want to believe that but i feel like the titan he recently ingested messed up his ideology. Eren's ideology past the age of like 15 was just the Attack Titan and a lil Founding Titan but now he's got 3 titans messing around in his head.I really hope you're right tho
@@smolangryoreo6586 While it's very likely that having three different titans COULD mess with your head a little, it takes allot more than that to completely change the ideology of a human being.
Humans are extremely stubborn creatures in regards to thought and ideology. And Eren is no exception, being an extra stubborn human.
Those who believe a human's ideology can change as easily as that forget just how stubborn we humans can be about what we think.
@@septimus7524 I'm hoping you're theory is 100% correct believe me
@@smolangryoreo6586 May very well not be 100% correct
But I have a feeling I'm MOSTLY correct.
May not hit the bull's eye but I'm pretty sure I'm damn close
@@septimus7524 well done, you predicted everything. Except the fact that Eren was also being used, but still.
Levi is basically that one tryhard that has over 500+ kills then realized that he was just spawn camping his teammates.
Bertholdt said :
"No one wrong, Because this world is just that Cruel"
No one Villian, just different thoughts.
The true Villian maybe this Cruel World
Acan the world chose nothing about this.it just sat there in the solar system.it didn’t make marleians have to abuse eldians.same for zeke.
RIP to Black Clover's animation studio K.OOOOOOooooooo😭😭
imagine trying to betray a dude with 11/10 intellect
Shots at Black Clover is always a win. Love you bro
Daryl it’s not that bad. The manga not the anime
@@fabianamullaly5086 Yeah the beginning of the anime had good animation then it just declined slowly
The manga is awesome. The anime doesn't do it justice.
Black clover = shit whining characters
@@RedSeraph_ The manga is on top
Zeke: oh you poor things...mmm...what? What is this sneak attack music playing on the background?
Anchor sticks on Zeke’s arm
Zeke: Im in danger
100% true,
but I think emotions have to be put aside with a 11/10 intelligence.
Way I see it there's no villain or a hero, just perspectives.
Absolutely agree with you that why I feel despite the current situation _it's still way way way way way to much and complicated in good way to much to wrap up or finish in a to have just simple answer. Your right there's no true villain or evil in that sense it's perspectives with no simple answers
Yes i agree with you too
The show clearly said the enemy is the world not just one person or group, but the world
Zealousk ZA WARUDO
this anime has more than just action packed fights
Levi:”kills humans”
Levi:”kills titan(humans)
Armin:I got my first kill (a human)
Mikasa:kill a titan already
"But ultimately I believe Eren will reject Zeke's euthanasia plan and i believe he will do his best to find a solution that would allow the Eldians to co-exist with the other nations."
Eren: Lol no.
The attack on Titan content on this channel is the best ever great job keep it up
“In Black Clover is the animation studio” LMFAO
The real evil are the guys who dislike this video
HAHHA good one lol xD
The real evil are the ads in between videos.
I love all these shows bc, mha, 7DS, aot and opm they are all so well written and entertaining
My brother thinks OPM is boring cause "he can just defeat anyone whats so cool about that" but the interesting part is how other heroes fight and how the villians fight the other heroes, at least to me.
@@isaiasmmmmm2784 opm is cool for me beacuse even tho Saitama can defeat them with just one punch and is one of the strongest heroes in the world he still isn't satisfied and want's to find someone who can give him a run for his money.
Yeah especially Aot and BC
Bc??
@@agnosticguy8442 black clover
Jingle bells
Humanity falls
Annie spared the blondes
Carla died
Eren cried
Levi reks them all
HEY!
Sasuke: I’m the the last one...
Zeke: hold my beer.
Man, I'm telling u ur video are getting better and better as the aot progresses
What a well-made video with excellent points of view. Subscribed.
That’s a lie he literally just stretches the vid
Benny moses he did. It was very annoying
Odil Akbariy yea and he restates info that most should know and if they didn’t know what would they click on the vid
i agree with Zeke’s plan but for a different reason
Could you tell me what that is? I would love to hear, really, 'cause i have no idea!
Man u r the best attack on titan youtuber nowadays along with Foxan anime
Wait, you speak out of Eren's tummy?
@@janchovanec8624 lol I control Eren actually 😈
hirman 11 facts
I want Zeke and Eren to defeat Marley, but I hope Zeke is persuaded to abandon his original plan and carry out a plan that destroys the oppressive nation.
2:11 the titan on the bottom left looks like that scary priest dude
Wasnt expecting that shot to black clover lmao
Damn the WW2-Germany-Marley-comparison is so accurate....
It's actually ww1 but k
@@_anterix_2953 he said "World war II". But okay ;)
Marley is actually the figure of Nazi, if you look at it closely.
And the story of Zeke accusing his parents is no coincidence!
Zeke Yeager's story was a reference to Pavlik Morozov, a young teenager who accused his own parents in Soviet Union time. The boy died in 1932, and that was a true story.
In short, this manga/anime here is obviously a reference to Nazi/Jewish/Soviet Union
Not to mention, if you look at the map, it is also a reference to Taiwan and Mainland China nowadays.
Mainland China is the big island, while Taiwan is a little island, just like the map in Attack on Titan.
This manga is really a reference to many things here!
@@hanglong8056 wow I do history at school and I never even knew this 😲
@@_anterix_2953
Here is the story about Pavlik Morozov
www.mod-langs.ox.ac.uk/russian/childhood/pavlikmorozov.htm
That's just one thing. If you notice, the 9 stars arm band that Eldians wear, it is exactly the same arm band that Jewish had to wear during the time German's rule. Just that, in the manga, the stars are 9 stars, while in history, it was 6 stars.
That, and another thing, this is just my opinion, that the Survery Corps look like a reference to the Kuomintang Army, since they have a lot of things in common.
And the symbols of both flags are kinda the same. The blue sun and white sky, while the symbols of the Survey Corps are the Wings also have Blue and White as the main colors theme.
"Eren will find a plan for all the countries to coexist"
Haha
You: even will find a way to coexist with the Belgians.
Eren: I'M GOING TO FUCK UP THE WORLD.
I was waiting for this video for the longest.
Okay, your points about Zeke are pretty good. Here are my thoughts:
At first, we were to believe that the "villain" was Titans. And now the "villain" is portrayed to be other humans (Marly). Although, after reading the most recent chapters I've come to believe that the villain is really both but neither at the same time. Ymir Fritz gained a gift in order to help humans grow and adapt. But, after Ymir's death, humanity began to misuse this gift for greed and power; turning this gift into a penalty. Thus leading separation and hate between races. Because Humanity fell to their sins and tried to use the Titans for their own personal gains they are now victims of their own desires. Yet they may have never gone down this path in life if the Titans never existed at all (at least not to this insane level). And the Titans....well like it was said in the video; they just follow their instincts.
So while, yes, I could say that _everyone_ is the villain, but honestly, everyone is a victim. "to be drunk on something to just keep pushing on; everyone was a slave to somethin' ". I think this line from Kenny is the true message Attack on Titan portrays amazingly!
My biggest question is how did the Marlyians conquer the titan shifters?
Could. You . Look . At . The . Manga . Please
@@Al-qg9dr wait, did they tell a more story specific on how the marleyans won the great Titan war?
Its yah boi PaPa Franku in the manga it says that after Eldia defeated all enemy countries, infighting started between the 9 titan factions. The 145th king saw this infighting and wanted to put a stop to the war quickly, so he joined with the Tyber family and made a random Marleyan “Heros” out to be the hero of Marley who defeated Eldia via infiltration. In reality tho the 145th King ended it.
Well if I’m remembering correctly
They never exactly specified but seeing how the tyburs betrayed eldians I reckon they they did it with the help of the Warhammer titan
According to me EARTH DEVIL is enjoying all incidences as he give power to Ymir Ftitz of Titans. And his name even contains word "devil".
>eldians
>not evil
Pick one rn!
Just to reference the manga we’re talking about, Eren Kruger spoke of it well. It’s largely a matter of perspective, “There is no such thing as truth in this world. That is our reality. Anyone can become a god or a devil. All it takes is for someone to claim that to be the truth”.
A bit flowery but the general idea is that humanity is commonly its own worst villain. Selfishness, revenge etc. Eldians oppressed others, now Marleyans oppress them in exchange, all that stuff about a cycle of hatred and violence.
Marley has become even worse than Eldians. If we're based on Manga, then what Marley did to the other nations could not be said that "Different" to what Eldians did when Eldians had Titan powers.
The only difference here is the Government who uses that power, the Marley instead of Eldia.
Well to be fair every "villain" becomes what he is by his unfortunate circumstances and nobody is born evil
I don't know about that.
Psychopaths can't really be nurtured into lovable human beings.
If you would be given a gun and told "Kill two innocents or your [insert family member you have the strongest connection to] dies.", what would you choose (not accepting a third option)?
I find this an interesting question. Just imagining the answer is difficult. Choosing one would most likely be impossible for me.
If you think about it, both Reiner (after realizing the propaganda was just that) and Eren made the same decision. They chose to kill innocents to protect their loved ones. Reiner to avoid his family to be turned into mindless Titans, a fate many agree on being worst than death, due to choosing to not continue the mission. Eren to avoid his loved ones being killed when Marley someday rolls in with an overwhelming force including but not limited to a fleet of airships.
The only two differences I see hear are:
1. Reiner and the other warriors came as attacker while Eren came as a defender. ["Attack is the best defence"]
2. Eren hasn't shown any regrets yet for killing innocents, only that Sasha died because of his actions while Reiners guilt broke his psyche in two and he is repeatedly thinking about suicide.
So I guess that makes it even?
Regardless, I still find this question quite interesting because of its challenging nature. No matter what you choose, the choice is still wrong. Be it on a logical or emotional level.
SnK is a really good manga. A lot of allegory that is parallel to our own.
Times Flew so fast already 11 pm wow i enjoy every video u post love it
Can you make a video about the seen-before titans ?
I think Eren was trying to protect Mikasa and Armin by convincing them he was bad so he could make it seem he was trying to I guess “help” Zeke, but idk 🤷♀️
I agree with you, i think the Marleyians are the enimies / villain, they are the ones attacking eldians, and i think Eren should destroy the Marley military or whatever, he should get Zeke with him on that plan, maybe even reiner (if he is still alive) and annie (eren gets the jaw titan to open up annie
Even if they wiped out all the Marlyeans would they be free? No the rest of the world would fight them, so they would be stuck in constant conflict, even if they wipe out everyone but the Eldians can they be morally justified? They would end up fighting each other as long as their is a struggle for power. Good and Evil are subjective and bendable ideologies
We heard that sneak diss at black clover😭
i know annie is suppose to be "bad," but she's still one of my favorite characters!!😫😩❤
The fact that she has been sidelined for so long makes me believe she will have a big part in the stories conclusion.
Bye this way the collosel is" god" of destructions
Heh, call the God of War and well see who's winning... 🤔🤔😂😂
Interesting, I wanna know the other shifter's name like Attack Titan: The God of Freedom, etc.
"The world."
-Hanji
I TOTALLY agree with everything you said!!, be a human doesn't necessarily mean you are the good guy, be a human means you have the opportunity to show you are better than others, making the right choice , like be a monster or a demon doesn't neccessarily mean you are the villan. WE(the humans) are the ones who create monsters making the wrong choice ,It's the hate we genearte making the wrong choice that is going to affect the people around us, letting them make the wrong choice and eventually become the real monster.....
Marley is obvious the true evil villains, they changed history by making the founding titan (ymir fritz) look bad, also some eldians are bad too for using the titan power for their own greed.
we have always been told the difference between a
hero and a villain
good and evil
a savior and a lost cause
but what if I told you the only true
difference is just
who's telling the story..
That's all I have to say
Yeah well, story can be told differently, true.
But the results and consequences, will never be fake!
"The animation studio" lmaoooo your j/k did not go unnoticed
Other animes: do you like twister?
Attack on titan: oh yeah it's the best game, why do you ask
Other animes: no reason
I feel like there isn't supposed to be a true vilian it's more of an intriguing anime full of different povs
Good job on the video's I love them!
Basically whenever you think you’ve found the villain, remember you didn’t. You will get mind fucked and end up feeling for every body you think you hate
Great vid
0:31 Animation studios 😂😂 goddamn
me then
Also, I don’t think Zeke is as much of a villain as everyone else. Yes, he is a villain, and yes, his plan is pretty bad. But the fact that Eldians can turn into Titans presents a threat to the entire world, especially when you take into account the “rumbling”. If there are no Eldians, the world is safer. I still don’t support it but I think I understand.
2:12 who else remember that guys with beard?
The final villain will obviously be jarjar
Negativitron Prime Jarjar binks
Keep doing these videos they are really good
Eren is the protagonist anyway. I want to see him smile again.. and also, I want him to bring up his mother for some reason >.
Absolute evil does not exist in human beings. The concept of absolute evil is that human beings catch human beings whose ideas are different.
You keep hesitating to mention that eldians can turn into titans. A lot of your arguments fall apart about "the marleyans are evil" etc. by leaving that detail out
I always thought the fact they had all those Wall's was suspisious!
The real enemy is....
Mosquitos
They should create an OST about the Marley when the Eldians were controlling the world.
- Queue WWE style entrance
- Hooded figure walks through the tunnel, lights, pyrotechnics, and crowd
- Zeke, Eren and everyone who is thought to be a villain: :O
- *removes hood
- IT’S RACISM
So basically a Janitor tainted Zeke’s whole life.
Well actually, Annie wanted to *choose* to abandon the mission. But Reiner and Berthold basically forced her to continue onwards, by making her think she *didn't have a choice.*
(7:58)
Yeah she was more hesitant. She still could have said no and abandoned it on her own though. She was in the Military Police Beigade so it's not like she was being watched by Reiner and Bertolt all the time.
I actually got confused while reading the manga. I have to read it again and again and I'm still lost. Welp
I've never read the manga, where can I read it
@@cintiasemedo599 You can download Manga Rock *definitive apk* on google.
What is so confusing about it
@@raymondlaspina7870 i don't get why Eren is moving so weird and he's with the side of Zeke.
@@ohheyjassy that is not confusing, is just hidden intentions. It helps the story with the mystery
The true villain of this show is King Fritz himself
Quality content, sir!
As bertholdt said, the only evil is the world
What’s really ironic, there were no more titans in the world. Marlay and Zeke keep creating them trying to achieve their goals. I’m sure there’s a message about how the lust for more power makes monsters of us all or something
The real villain is Isayama for making us think so much about who the villain is🤔
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I think you made an incredible analysis on this topic and helps clear things up a little, amazing well in depth video 👍🏻
Oh and ur question at the end: I don't think he ever abandoned his friends. I believe he still cares for them, and he def doesn't like alienating them as it appeared to me in chp 113 in that one panel of him just looking out the window. He def showed some sad emotions when he made Mikasa upset in chp 102, not to mention Sasha in chp 105. He's clearly putting up an act to Zeke, while showing enough evidence to us readers that he isn't truly aligned with him. He's clearly pulling a Kruger here, and even though Armin is afraid that Eren is going to do the rumbling still, pretty sure the genius will be in for a suprise.
Marlay is pretty bad, but it's also important to note that they're trying to stay relevant against a nation that, they think, is holding the world hostage with a world-ending WMD. I think Isayama's whole point is that it isn't clear who started the fire; someone has to put it out. Whether that's by forgiveness and trust, like Mr. Braus (and even the King, with respect to Kenny Ackerman), or by doing what has to be done to win (like Grisha and Eren), Marley isn't the ultimate evil in the world; human nature itself is the evil.
Uhmm... When will Eren use his Berserk mode again?
S N E A K Y B O I never
It was only in anime, not in manga
@@vojtechspinler6363 oof
The Real Villain
Black Clover = Anime Studio.. Savageeee haha
Look back to 1990 marley and soviet union seem almost as bad
...the villains are humanity themselves. We always complicate our lives more than we should. That's why we love AOT.
People. People are the real monsters.
You are a people too.
@@imhorse5402 you are a people too
@@mrbiggielarge We are a people too.
@@imhorse5402 we are all monsters
@@uthredraganrson5467 yes
Zeke wants Eldians to simply not exist because he thinks it is way harder living as a "Monster" and being discriminated, he doesnt simply think they shouldn't exist from what the ancestors did.