What's funny is when I saw Davinci Resolve include the color slice tool I immediately thought of the DCTL's released by mononodes. I saw it was a response to the DCTL's being put out over the last year or so. Now you come back with an updated version of this tool and a demonstration of some of the issues with color slice, which I'm sure Blackmagic will address at some point. Friendly competition that the customer's benefit from.
DVR making a great effort and Stefan one step ahead. I love DVR as a company and the developments of Mononodes, together they are the best possible resource.
I wouldn't say if it is necessary or not, it depends on the use that each person makes. On the other hand, I also like to pay for the work of developers who create tools to improve the result.
The developer deserves every penny asks for this DCTL and more in my honest opinion. The fact that BlackMagic came up with the slice tools is a testament to mononode high quality DCTLs and the slice tools is BlackMagic answer. Anyone should see it as an investment for your work and a support to mononode to keep coming with fantastic tools that benefit us happy customers.
@@kaizenpain3529 I have been testing the tool since receiving the update. It already worked very well, but suddenly I remembered analog times. From a correct digital red to reaching a Kodachrome 25 1/3 with an undercut diaphragm. Mononodes is contributing significantly to the evolution of color, so we must support the developers and value and respect the work.
I can highly recommend Stefan's tools. This video clearly demonstrates the power of well designed 3rd party DCTL's over the default tools. Well worth it. Great job mate.
Not gonna lie, I bought this DCTL just a few months before 19 got announced, and thought "shit, I don't regret it, but now they're useless." I'm so pleased with the new update, and this demonstration of why it will still be in every single grade I do.
This looks great Stefan. I haven't switched to resolve 19 yet and tested colorslice, but I've seen that the 'skin hue' can also get in the way when you want to make adjustments to yellow and red aswell. Which doesn't seem to be an issue here where the 'skin hue' is more like an additional zone overlapping inbetween red and yellow, instead of it's own exclusive zone.
Folders inside the LUT folder that begin with an 'A' will rank higher in the DCTL list than those starting with a 'B'. If you want specific DCTLs at the top of your list, use subfolders. You can also copy a "Boilerplate" DCTL (e.g., one from DaVinci) and rename it to something like "---------------.dctl" to place in each folder. This will act as a separator.
Your Your DCTL design is far an away much more effective and superior to Color Slice, which is just as problematic as the outdated hue curves. Thanks for posting this demonstration.
re: skin tone, you can adjust the rolloff in Color Slice by adjusting the Center for adjacent hues, likewise in both of your example images you can get full skin tone coverage by adjusting the Center control, either on its own or in combination with adjusting the Center for the Red control, so if you are going to make a comparison it should at least be a fair one that uses the full capabilities of the tools. Likewise Color Slice has a Deep Sat slider, so that isn't a difference between the two. Then of course there's the features that CS has and your DCTL doesn't, but I won't go into those.
Thank you for your feedback. I must disagree with your statement that 'you can adjust the rolloff in Color Slice.' This is not accurate. To clarify, while adjusting the 'Center' control in Color Slice does shift the center point of a selected hue, it does not alter the falloff range. For example, shifting the center point for skin tone towards yellow only steepens the falloff towards yellow, without broadening the hue's transition range. Additionally, I want to clarify that not mentioning the 'Deep' slider in my video was not meant to imply its absence in Color Slice. The video was intended to provide a quick overview of the main differences rather than a comprehensive feature comparison. That is all.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner re: rolloff I said you do this by adjusting the center for *adjacent* hues, not the one you are on itself. Load up a 4 color gradient and see for yourself.
@@m1nt9reen Thanks for the clarification. I now see what you mean. Honestly, I wasn’t aware of this approach until now. It’s good to know that adjusting the center for adjacent hues can modify the falloff. I find this method less intuitive and somewhat time-consuming, as it requires tweaking multiple sliders instead of just one. Additionally, I’ve noticed some unusual behaviors that are hard to describe in text. It seems to me that Color Slice might be combining tetrahedral with spherical models under the hood. Currently, I can't set up Color Slice in Fusion to do a full 3d inspection. Perhaps with a new update, I'll explore this further. Thanks again for your feedback!
@@StefanRingelschwandtner I look forward to your inspection, and please share your future video explanation of your results when it DaVinci does update. I would like to get your full inspection and comparison analysis in simple terms.
Hello Stephan, Luca here. Great job with this V3. I already tested it out and included it in my node tree structure. I noticed that you removed the color brightness option compared to V2. Is there a specific reason you went that way?
Good question. Yes, this is intentional. The slider position is now in the middle, and you can use the Density.dctl to push the slider to the left to brighten up certain hue values.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Hello Stefan, I have an additional question: is this new version of Color shift still optimized for DWG, or is Arri logC 3 like Look/Lab/Print?
@@lucaenricocanessa5002 This tool performs optimally in large color spaces. For example, it works well in DWG, LogC, and other expansive color spaces. It is not optimized for any specific color space.
Hello Stefan. On 5:15 you say that density slider in Color Shift doesn't affect saturation while lowering it (brightening). But in my tests with your demo DCTLs (no matter what - single/dual/triple) - all density sliders affect saturation the same as color slice (T or no-T versions). Should I use some specific color space for the node with dctl to achieve that? (tried with timeline Rec.709 and davinci wide gamut). Thanks p.s. Also, in free demo archive there're no single density-T dctl, just FYI.
Thank you for your feedback about the missing DCTL in the demo pack; I’ll correct that within the next day or two. Regarding the density slider and saturation, it appears my previous explanation was not accurate. I should not have stated that it does not add saturation-this was incorrect. In my initial description, I referred to a 3D cube model where saturation traditionally pulls hues outward. When using the "Color Slice" tool with the density slider to brighten a hue, it pulls the specific hue out along traditional axes, akin to classic native saturation methods. The Density DCTL, however, operates along different axes, which also increases saturation but in a different way. The changes might look similar on a vectorscope, but the actual results, like those seen on the Isabella test chart, are quite distinct. I appreciate your observation and will ensure more precise wording in future videos to prevent any confusion.
Good observation and solution. In the spirit of observation. I noticed you didn’t touch the center slider on color slice tool. Would love a comparison seeing to your DCTL and the use of color slice center slider to address fall off and also the depth sliders in color slice compared to your deep slider
There's indeed a lot to explore with the Color Slice tool. I must admit, I'm still getting to grips with the behavior of the "Depth Sliders" among other features. For a thorough analysis, I'd typically load up tools like the "Film Look Creator" in Fusion where I can analyze the tools on a 3D cube. Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, ColorSlice isn't currently available in Fusion, which limits my ability to conduct a deeper, more detailed comparative analysis. I'll keep investigating the possibilities and hope to provide a more comprehensive comparison video in the future.
@@KaurH I've also experimented with Omniscope, specifically for evaluating ColorSlice, but I ran into some issues with the 3D cube "clamping" during my tests. It’s possible I might not have configured it correctly. I’d really appreciate if you could share how you set up the Omniscope 3D cube. Additionally, I'm curious about the test.dctls and images you use for your evaluations.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Yes, the 3D cube in OmniScope does unfortunately clamp as the signal it gets from Resolve is 0-1, but as for everything within the 0-1 range, it's pretty good!
Großartig Stefan ! Danke. Bought the Color Shift & Print DCTLs and now I still struggle to incorporate your DCTLs into my DWG Workflow - any advice and help is much appreciated ! Danke :)
The Color Shift works perfectly fine in any large color space, so it's fine to use it in DWG. For the Look / Lab / Print DCTLs, you can switch from LogC to DWG using a CST. Place it between the Lab and Print nodes.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner what about colorshift? I wonder why these are not sold as DWG too. In a DWG workflow, it is confusing to many people how these fit in, I used to think I was the only one.
@@RavikantRai21490 I think you mean 'Look.dctls' instead of 'ColorShift.' All I can say here in the comment section is that I have my reasons. Feel free to drop me an email, and we can discuss this further.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Where can I find your email? That is the one thing that is preventing me from purchasing this since a long time. The fact that this is not DWG compliant and needs additional CST nodes.
@@RavikantRai21490 Go to my website and click on the support or contact link located at the bottom of the page in the footer. There, you will find my email.
Speaking of splitting up elements like skin, maybe the next version should have sky and grass. I do this on a daily basis, picking grass that lies exactly between yellow and green, same for sky. And that's annoying.
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Great video showing how still relevant your DCTL's are in version 19 after introduction of colour slice tool.
Long live DCTLs!
Superior by far.
What's funny is when I saw Davinci Resolve include the color slice tool I immediately thought of the DCTL's released by mononodes. I saw it was a response to the DCTL's being put out over the last year or so. Now you come back with an updated version of this tool and a demonstration of some of the issues with color slice, which I'm sure Blackmagic will address at some point. Friendly competition that the customer's benefit from.
DVR making a great effort and Stefan one step ahead. I love DVR as a company and the developments of Mononodes, together they are the best possible resource.
I wouldn't say if it is necessary or not, it depends on the use that each person makes. On the other hand, I also like to pay for the work of developers who create tools to improve the result.
The developer deserves every penny asks for this DCTL and more in my honest opinion. The fact that BlackMagic came up with the slice tools is a testament to mononode high quality DCTLs and the slice tools is BlackMagic answer. Anyone should see it as an investment for your work and a support to mononode to keep coming with fantastic tools that benefit us happy customers.
@@kaizenpain3529 I have been testing the tool since receiving the update. It already worked very well, but suddenly I remembered analog times. From a correct digital red to reaching a Kodachrome 25 1/3 with an undercut diaphragm. Mononodes is contributing significantly to the evolution of color, so we must support the developers and value and respect the work.
Just an amazing tool, very precise , perfect for any color adjustment. Many thanks Stefan!!
Thank you!
I like your DCTL so much , thanks for your great work
Amazing Stefan, congratulations for your amazing work ! Thanks fot the new update, I already tested it and it works amazingly.
Greetings!
I own this DCTL and I can't recommend it enough, it's really fantastic and helps a lot with my grading. Well worth the price
your DCTLs are hands down my favorite
I can highly recommend Stefan's tools. This video clearly demonstrates the power of well designed 3rd party DCTL's over the default tools. Well worth it. Great job mate.
💥It has a place in the arsenal of the colorist. Thanks for the update ✌
so glad i bought this and a lot more DCTL from you! keep up the great work Stefan!
Not gonna lie, I bought this DCTL just a few months before 19 got announced, and thought "shit, I don't regret it, but now they're useless." I'm so pleased with the new update, and this demonstration of why it will still be in every single grade I do.
This looks great Stefan. I haven't switched to resolve 19 yet and tested colorslice, but I've seen that the 'skin hue' can also get in the way when you want to make adjustments to yellow and red aswell. Which doesn't seem to be an issue here where the 'skin hue' is more like an additional zone overlapping inbetween red and yellow, instead of it's own exclusive zone.
Amazing work Stefan, I'd love to know how you're organising your DCTLs in the dropdown menu!
Folders inside the LUT folder that begin with an 'A' will rank higher in the DCTL list than those starting with a 'B'. If you want specific DCTLs at the top of your list, use subfolders. You can also copy a "Boilerplate" DCTL (e.g., one from DaVinci) and rename it to something like "---------------.dctl" to place in each folder. This will act as a separator.
Great products!! Keep up the good work. Huge huge thanks!
AMAZING!!!
Blackmagic really need to onboard you to the dev team Stefan :)
Your Your DCTL design is far an away much more effective and superior to Color Slice, which is just as problematic as the outdated hue curves. Thanks for posting this demonstration.
Noch nie so schnell DaVinci geschlossen. Popcorn steht bereit. It's DCTL nerd time Baby 👌
Smooth!
re: skin tone, you can adjust the rolloff in Color Slice by adjusting the Center for adjacent hues, likewise in both of your example images you can get full skin tone coverage by adjusting the Center control, either on its own or in combination with adjusting the Center for the Red control, so if you are going to make a comparison it should at least be a fair one that uses the full capabilities of the tools. Likewise Color Slice has a Deep Sat slider, so that isn't a difference between the two. Then of course there's the features that CS has and your DCTL doesn't, but I won't go into those.
Thank you for your feedback. I must disagree with your statement that 'you can adjust the rolloff in Color Slice.' This is not accurate. To clarify, while adjusting the 'Center' control in Color Slice does shift the center point of a selected hue, it does not alter the falloff range. For example, shifting the center point for skin tone towards yellow only steepens the falloff towards yellow, without broadening the hue's transition range. Additionally, I want to clarify that not mentioning the 'Deep' slider in my video was not meant to imply its absence in Color Slice. The video was intended to provide a quick overview of the main differences rather than a comprehensive feature comparison. That is all.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner re: rolloff I said you do this by adjusting the center for *adjacent* hues, not the one you are on itself. Load up a 4 color gradient and see for yourself.
@@m1nt9reen Thanks for the clarification. I now see what you mean. Honestly, I wasn’t aware of this approach until now. It’s good to know that adjusting the center for adjacent hues can modify the falloff. I find this method less intuitive and somewhat time-consuming, as it requires tweaking multiple sliders instead of just one. Additionally, I’ve noticed some unusual behaviors that are hard to describe in text. It seems to me that Color Slice might be combining tetrahedral with spherical models under the hood. Currently, I can't set up Color Slice in Fusion to do a full 3d inspection. Perhaps with a new update, I'll explore this further. Thanks again for your feedback!
@@StefanRingelschwandtner no worries, indeed it is less intuitive
@@StefanRingelschwandtner I look forward to your inspection, and please share your future video explanation of your results when it DaVinci does update. I would like to get your full inspection and comparison analysis in simple terms.
Good one Stefan
I am looking to purchase Color Shift or Look/Lab/Print which one should I start with. I am primarily using for skin and an overall filmic look?
Hello Stephan, Luca here.
Great job with this V3. I already tested it out and included it in my node tree structure.
I noticed that you removed the color brightness option compared to V2.
Is there a specific reason you went that way?
Good question. Yes, this is intentional. The slider position is now in the middle, and you can use the Density.dctl to push the slider to the left to brighten up certain hue values.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Hello Stefan, I have an additional question: is this new version of Color shift still optimized for DWG, or is Arri logC 3 like Look/Lab/Print?
@@lucaenricocanessa5002 This tool performs optimally in large color spaces. For example, it works well in DWG, LogC, and other expansive color spaces. It is not optimized for any specific color space.
Hello Stefan. On 5:15 you say that density slider in Color Shift doesn't affect saturation while lowering it (brightening). But in my tests with your demo DCTLs (no matter what - single/dual/triple) - all density sliders affect saturation the same as color slice (T or no-T versions). Should I use some specific color space for the node with dctl to achieve that? (tried with timeline Rec.709 and davinci wide gamut). Thanks
p.s. Also, in free demo archive there're no single density-T dctl, just FYI.
Thank you for your feedback about the missing DCTL in the demo pack; I’ll correct that within the next day or two. Regarding the density slider and saturation, it appears my previous explanation was not accurate. I should not have stated that it does not add saturation-this was incorrect. In my initial description, I referred to a 3D cube model where saturation traditionally pulls hues outward. When using the "Color Slice" tool with the density slider to brighten a hue, it pulls the specific hue out along traditional axes, akin to classic native saturation methods. The Density DCTL, however, operates along different axes, which also increases saturation but in a different way. The changes might look similar on a vectorscope, but the actual results, like those seen on the Isabella test chart, are quite distinct. I appreciate your observation and will ensure more precise wording in future videos to prevent any confusion.
Looks like BM added a set of pre-defined keys but hasn't changed the color engine. I prefer DCTLs.
Good observation and solution. In the spirit of observation. I noticed you didn’t touch the center slider on color slice tool. Would love a comparison seeing to your DCTL and the use of color slice center slider to address fall off and also the depth sliders in color slice compared to your deep slider
There's indeed a lot to explore with the Color Slice tool. I must admit, I'm still getting to grips with the behavior of the "Depth Sliders" among other features. For a thorough analysis, I'd typically load up tools like the "Film Look Creator" in Fusion where I can analyze the tools on a 3D cube. Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, ColorSlice isn't currently available in Fusion, which limits my ability to conduct a deeper, more detailed comparative analysis. I'll keep investigating the possibilities and hope to provide a more comprehensive comparison video in the future.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner I tend to evaluate color page tools with Omniscope's 3D cube. Lmk if you'd like to see my setup.
@@KaurH I've also experimented with Omniscope, specifically for evaluating ColorSlice, but I ran into some issues with the 3D cube "clamping" during my tests. It’s possible I might not have configured it correctly. I’d really appreciate if you could share how you set up the Omniscope 3D cube. Additionally, I'm curious about the test.dctls and images you use for your evaluations.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Yes, the 3D cube in OmniScope does unfortunately clamp as the signal it gets from Resolve is 0-1, but as for everything within the 0-1 range, it's pretty good!
@@KaurH Thanks for the clarification! I will experiment with it further!
Großartig Stefan ! Danke. Bought the Color Shift & Print DCTLs and now I still struggle to incorporate your DCTLs into my DWG Workflow - any advice and help is much appreciated ! Danke :)
The Color Shift works perfectly fine in any large color space, so it's fine to use it in DWG. For the Look / Lab / Print DCTLs, you can switch from LogC to DWG using a CST. Place it between the Lab and Print nodes.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner what about colorshift? I wonder why these are not sold as DWG too. In a DWG workflow, it is confusing to many people how these fit in, I used to think I was the only one.
@@RavikantRai21490 I think you mean 'Look.dctls' instead of 'ColorShift.' All I can say here in the comment section is that I have my reasons. Feel free to drop me an email, and we can discuss this further.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner Where can I find your email? That is the one thing that is preventing me from purchasing this since a long time. The fact that this is not DWG compliant and needs additional CST nodes.
@@RavikantRai21490 Go to my website and click on the support or contact link located at the bottom of the page in the footer. There, you will find my email.
DCTLs developers are still a few steps ahead of BM developers. And I thought Color Slice is murder for DCTLs.
Speaking of splitting up elements like skin, maybe the next version should have sky and grass. I do this on a daily basis, picking grass that lies exactly between yellow and green, same for sky. And that's annoying.
I'm currently developing some new tools that might include those features. They're set to be released in the next two to three weeks. Stay tuned.
I bought ver 2 .... does it offer free update?
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Dang he's going at they neck
Hi Stefan… i bought your utility DCTL. So i would get this DCTL as an update as well or ?
Thanks for buying the Utility DCTL pack! The Color Shift DCTL is a separate product, not an update to the Utility pack.
Hey, Do I need learn programming and color management to make app or plugin like this?
Yes, it is crucial to have a solid understanding of both programming and color management.
@@StefanRingelschwandtner This is so cool
Both I and Thatcher Freeman have tutorial series on RUclips and Cullen Kelly has one on MixingLight :)
@@KaurH Cool. Thank you
I prefer Mononodes. Mononodes forever!!!!