The hooligans were at their peak in the 1970’s and 80’s but these days any fights are on a much smaller scale and many countries have much worse crowd violence than the U.K. now.
@@westham5047 Especially as Millwall should, realistically, be given a far greater allocation in a 60,000 capacity stadium rather than the paltry 1,500 previously at that, admittedly, fabulous FOOTBALL Stadium that was Upton Park. The Boleyn was one of the most atmospheric grounds as was The OLD Den that Millwall left 28 long years ago in 1993.
@@Isleofskye Everytime Millwall is mentioned I see your name pop up mate 😂 Got a lot of respect for Millwall if I'm honest. 2 similar clubs but if and when we come up against eachother again that will all change and I can't wait for that day
Yes, My friend.My first attended match was Millwall 5 Hull City 1 on 3rd September 1962 so 59 years ago and my first West Ham game was v WBA and Brian Dear broke the record with 5 goals as West Ham won 6/1. Something quite magical to this 11-year-old and I visited 84 grounds with Millwall from Carlisle to Plymouth.Funnily enough in 1972, I went on holiday to St.Anton in Austria for 10 days (£36 including all travel as I recall lol ) and when we were on the 5-hour coach trip from Geneva to Austria we saw Brian Dear as part of our Group along with a famous Actor then: Kenneth Cope :)
@@westham5047 That West Ham game I mentioned was March 1965 and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of the River I would have definitely been a Hammer instead of being born at The Elephant and Castle mate :)
Thank goodness things aren`t as bad as this now. Where my parents lived, from the bus stop at the top of the road, you could see the floodlights at Villa Park, just over a mile and a half away, Birmingham City and West Brom, both about three and half miles (different directions, obviously). So rivalries were very local indeed.
There's usually quite a few police officers at regular games but when it's derby matches like these, there are so many officers that it's basically impossible to be anywhere and not see one. As one of the more older derby's, Blackburn vs Burnley is my local derby and although we haven't played each other in years (different leagues), I remember one of the last times there was a game between the two. Away fans were banned from travelling to the stadium themselves and instead had to go on a club coach there and back even though there is not much distance between the two clubs and some fans probably lived close enough to walk. Once the coaches arrived fans had to go straight into the stadium and couldn't go anywhere else. Same thing happened after the game where fans had to go straight back on the coaches.
I know at the Newcastle/Sunderland derby they call in officers from other areas. My boyfriends dad dealt with a lot of our local football team's (here in Middlesbrough, just south of Sunderland) matches and was usually drafted in because of his experience. That's how many officers are usually needed. They know derby matches will kick off, and they've got to have police available in other areas of the town too for non-football related issues. Away fans are also usually held back for 30 mins after the match has ended to let the home fans out and to have them be away from the stadium, all to avoid fighting. The away fans are also then usually corralled to the train stations/car parks. That's why you'll see lines of officers outside of the stadiums, they're keeping them on one track, rather than risking them spreading out and fighting. Force them to the train stations, get them on the trains, and fewer issues arise
A lot of this video shows fans from the 1970's and 1980's when fans fighting was more common than it is now. Back then it was known that rival gangs would arrange a fight advance
In the northeast the big one is Sunderland v Newcastle but sometimes you also get Newcastle/Sunderland v Middlesbrough which I've seen the Middlesbrough fans get a police escort on their way up to and from Sunderland or Newcastle on the A19
I live very close to MFC (Millwall), and remember back in the 70's all the local shops would be shut up by 1:30pm. The rival teams fans would then be escorted from New Cross Gate Station to the Den (home ground of MFC back then) by the Old Bill on horses. Shops then opened up for a couple of hours before closing at 4 pm. Then the reverse happened. Rival fans didn't dare go into any boozer in the Gate, they would have been annihilated. I recommend you watch two films about this period in time. The Firm with local boy Gary Oldman and the Football Factory which is set round here and about the rivalry between MFC and Chelsea fans aka the Bushwhackers and the Pensioners ( named after the military retirement complex). Two more films that I think you will like, Nil By Mouth, semi-autobiographical directed by Gary Oldman. His sister is in in and I know all the places it's set in. The other is called Sexy Beast, Ray Winston, Sir Ben Kingsley and what we round her call a load of faces. Stay safe and healthy 😍
Millwall had to be closed down twice in the thirties after the crowd mostly dockers rioted. That said Bermondsey and Rotherhithe was from the fifties through to the eighties the crime capital of England. indeed there was a time when you couldn't walk into a pub in Bermondsey or Rotherhithe without bumping into either a gangster a bank robber or a Hoister and back then nearly everyone could have a row.
Bristol City vs Bristol Rovers gets very violent - those Derby’s are pretty rare - almost ten years since the last one, but that only adds to the intensity
The local derbies near me are my hometown club Grimsby Town vs hull city, scunthorpe united and lincoln city as well teams from other teams from Lincolnshire and yorkshire. I was at Chesterfields old ground years ago and Grimsby fans were trying to get on to the pitch. I was at Blundell Park in Cleethorpes and I have seen fights between town fans and fans from other clubs as well as on the pitch. I remember being at vale park home of port vale in stoke and their fans invaded the pitch after town had beaten them and they charged the town fans who ran including myself.
Some context from a Derby Fan. Derby County and Nottingham Forest form what is known as the East Midlands Derby (sorry Leicester fans, you ain't part of the og event) Both were managed by Brian Clough who went on to take both to the very top f football. Clough took Derby from the foot of Division 2 to division 1 champions in 6 years. Took them to a European semi final as well. He resigned from his job in a power play against the owner which back fired, seeing him depart for Brighton and Leeds, Derby went on to get one more title without Clough but fell back down to the second tier not to long after, and even the third tier too. When he arrived at Forest they were a very similar club in a very similar position to Derby. However, while he didn't take them to the Division 1 title. He took Forest to two European titles, something much more prestigious and with right, a much harder feat. He had a long career at forest where they became a top flight regular. But shortly after he retired they fell into troubles and fell back into the second tier. While both sets of fans hate eachother. Just because they are local rivals and it's the classic battle of who is better. Both clubs are united by the man who took them both to the top. So every time they play eachother. They Play for the Brian Clough Trophy. A trophy in his honour which was brought into the game not too long after his passing. In recent years forest have held the trophy but when it came into the game. Derby held it for a long time. Many Players and managers have played on both sides of the divide. Even Brian's Son Nigel, Played for Nottingham Forest and was loved by the fans, then went on to Manage Derby and stabilize the club, becoming one of clubs longest serving managers and in some eyes, one of its most memorable. It's a rivalry that not only brings out the hatred the two sides have against eachother. But it does bring us together in celebration of the man who put our clubs on the Football map. And if it wasn't for him. Both clubs may have never tasted the success they had, and the rivalry that it created.
Been going to Villa vs Birmingham Derbies since the 70s. it can get a bit spicy, it isn't just confined to the stadium and surrounding areas. The city is a battle ground. I remember getting surrounded under the New Street ramp when I was a teenager in the late 70s and been asked the question we all dread when the bastards aren't wearing any colours "who do you support" ? Been born into a Villa family paid off that day.
I was once in Newcastle just after they had beaten Sunderland 5-1 the line of nearly 30 police horses was something else. The riots/chaos around the city centre too was on another level.
A trifle harsh but justified.1968 Millwall fans marching from the train station to the old Manor Ground to play Oxford, captained by Ron Atkinson, I heard the immortal line from passing American tourists ..... "Gee, that got a CARNIVAL " :) Also Oxford/Millwall following year in 1968 one mile from the ground Millwall and Oxford met head-to-head and for the first time I saw Millwall run away followed in hot pursuit by the surprised but delighted local fans HOWEVER at a signal Millwall turned round as one and chaos ensued...
Top 5 English football derbies(but not in any respective order): - NE : Newcastle Utd v. Sunderland - Merseyside : Liverpool v. Everton - Manchester : City v. Utd - London : Arsenal v. Tottenham(with apologies to Chelsea fans!) - West Midlands : any between the regional 3 of Aston Villa-WBA-Birmingham City
I think the Newcastle/Sunderland Derby is possibly the most 'contested' one in English Football. It can turn extremely violent and has been played with no opposition fans in the ground on several occasions. It's probably the most violent match, potentially, after the Rangers/Celtic one (yes I know that's a Scottish Derby, not an English one). I can't think of any derby that beats that one for the 'extreme' passion thats on show.
On a derby day, On any match day really but derby's are when the real rivalry comes out, I'm a Sheffield Wednesday fan and when we play a Sheffield derby against Sheffield United especially, every pub in the city puts the traditional glass pint pots away and all alcohol is served in plastic pint pots. Saving the local hospitals a lot of work.
1968 Millwall fans marching from the train station to the old Manor Ground to play Oxford, captained by Ron Atkinson, I heard the immortal line from passing American tourists ..... "Gee, that got a CARNIVAL " :) Also Oxford/Millwall following year in 1968 one mile from the ground Millwall and Oxford met head-to-head and for the first time I saw Millwall run away followed in hot pursuit by the surprised but delighted local fans HOWEVER at a signal Millwall turned round as one and chaos ensued...
Some of these rivalries have existed half as long as the USA has been a country. Most of these clips are from a long time ago, the hatreds remain but most of the real violence has stopped thankfully, it wasn't much fun going to a Birmingham derby in the 1970s.
Back in the 1970s there was a joke that went " The Aston Villa vs Birmingham City game was interrupted today when 23 people invaded the pitch and proceeded to kick a football around"
Bristol city Vs Bristol Rovers is my derby, unfortunately I keep moving from one side of Bristol to the other and work in football bars... I used to keep one of each shirt just in case....
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As 'passionate' as these derbies are (and they are - very passionate), none them compares to Rangers v Celtic. An Auld Firm derby has to be seen to be believed.
Violence is not just found in derby matches, my 60+ year old mum and I once intervened to stop 3 / 4 lads who jumped out a taxi and pushed one of our fans to the ground and where kicking him. Seems he had been gloating too hard about a random win.
Ìve heard a rumour that Wealdstone f.c have a tough fan base , apparently "If you want some, I'll give it ya" is quite a famous chant along with "You've got no fans, you've got no ground" I'm sure there's footage of one of their die hard fans in action online somewhere 😉.
The worst violence used to happen in the 70s and 80s it led to most clubs erecting fences to stop pitch invasions which led to two huge tragedies. There used to be running battles at train stations and on the the way to the stadiums as well as in the ground itself. It led to English football being banned from European football for five years. It was pretty much sorted out at league level by the late 90s but carries on at international level even to this day though it is much less now than it was. Nowadays the violence at football in the UK tends to be much more organised with arranged venues away from the ground and places where the police will be.
Im a Portsmouth fan and our hatred towards the scum (Southampton) is massive, the hatred towards Southampton dates back to the dockyard strike when Southampton workers broke pocket lines and that's how they got called scum. Also the Pompey hooligan firm are called the 657 firm because that was the time of the train they caught leaving Portsmouth on away trips.
Back in the day, there was football firm’s (I think that’s what they were called. ) They would fight each other, loads people use to get seriously hurt or stabbed. There is an old movie about it called football factory.
I know this is specific to English football derbies but as you already know from a previous reaction, the Old Firm derby in Scotland between Glasgow Rangers and Celtic is by far and away the biggest and most intense derby in the UK bar none. There are other notable scottish football derbies like Hearts v Hibs which is kind of like the Old Firm but on a smaller scale and in Edinburgh as opposed to Glasgow. Dundee v Dundee United is probably the last big Scottish derby. The others like Motherwell v Hamilton and Ayr United v Kilmarnock are just for a bit of fun compared to the bigger, more serious ones...❤
Us Airdrie boys don't like Ayr, the reason, I couldn't tell you, but there's always fights and I remember it making the front page of the daily record when we invaded the pitch in Ayr, we also don't like Hearts or Motherwell.
@@RighAlban was it not because Ayr did a pitch invasion when Airdrie was on the verge of Liquidation. I'm sure I heard that story at work about 15 years ago.
@@darrencampbell5145 that kind of rings a bell, I was about 18/19 when old Broomfield closed and I was always drunk at the games so my memory is patchy as F.
What goes on now is nothing compared to the 70s and 80s fans where caged in the terraces with high fences with spikes on top. Only after 97 fans died in a crush where they taken down and grounds became all seater.
A lot of those teams are lower league as well, like Premier (Top tier), Championship (2nd Tier), League One (3rd) and League 2 (Fourth)...72 odd teams all with rabid fanbases, the clubs are the beacon of their town/city so its a defend your home mentality, and a stand your ground when away...Derbies are aways fierce, a lot have actual history aside from football, Southampton/Portsmouth is related to the docks, one went on strike, the other didnt and took all the work leaving the other in financial difficulty, Man Utd and Liverpool are rival northern cities with huge cultura historys within close proximity...so its not all football related...but it goes down to grass roots level to be honest. Ridiculously passionate about our footy here ;) x
what you need to realise is two things, 1) worst rivals are usually quite close to each other (not always, but a lot) and are competing for jobs/prestige/skilled players and more its not just football. 2) young men with no economic prospects look for other ways to gain recognition and status, usually through strength contests, its war without the tanks!
Barring injury in this weeks game for Portugal in the World Cup Qualifiers, Ronaldo should make his 2nd debut for Manchester United at home at Old Trafford against Newcastle United, this Saturday, 11/09/2021. Steve Bruce who used to play for Manchester United, is the present Newcastle United manager, Bruce, a boyhood fan of Newcastle United, said that he sneaked into St James' Park without paying to watch the team play, saying "I have always been a Newcastle lad and when I was a kid, I crawled under the turnstiles to get in to try and save a bob or whatever it was. They were my team, I went to support them as a boy and being a Geordie it's in-bred, you follow the club still the same today." Like several other future professionals from the area, he played football for Wallsend Boys Club. He was also selected for the Newcastle Schools representative team, and at the age of 13 was among a group of players from that team who were selected to serve as ball boys at the 1974 League Cup Final at Wembley Stadium. Injuries continued to take their toll upon Manchester United's Captain, Bryan Robson during the 1992-93 season, leading to Steve Bruce captaining the team in the majority of Man United's matches during the first season of the new Premier League. Bruce scored two late goals in a win over Sheffield Wednesday which proved decisive in United winning the inaugural Premier League title, the first time the club had won the championship of English football since 1967, and he and Robson received the trophy jointly after the home victory over Blackburn Rovers on 3 May. Manchester United dominated English football in the 1993-94 season, winning a second consecutive Premier League title and then defeating Chelsea in the FA Cup final to become only the fourth team, and Bruce the first English captain, to win the Double in the 20th century, FA Cup and League. The 1994-95 season was a disappointing one for Bruce and United, as the club failed in its bid to win a third consecutive Premier League title and lost to Everton in the FA Cup final. Bruce made his Manchester United debut in a 2-1 win over Portsmouth on 19 December 1987, and played in 21 of United's remaining 22 league fixtures, helping the club to a top-two place in the First Division for the first time since 1980. First Division became the Premier League in 1992.
Liverpool fan here. The matches against Manchester United have always been spicy to say the least, but at a game I went to in 1985 it was like a bad day in Beirut outside the ground. Fights going on all over the place, golf balls with nails stuck in them being thrown you name it! Merseyside Derby day is to and fro good natured ribbing between me and Evertonian family members for about a week before the match, then depending on the result - a lot of rubbing it in afterwards from whoever ends up on the winning side.
Ronaldo Re signed and he scored two in his first game back today... i started crying lol, so many emotions, i'm older than him and remember him when he firs signed back in the day as a youngster
Villa my team at number 1 😂. Fun fact for you... prince William supports villa too. Just to let you know, when a Derby is on, the police presence will be like 2000, helicopters, roads closed, horses, dog's and even then the fans are not allowed out stadium at same time, the away fans will go and home fans have to stay an extra hour or so until fans dispersed and only the hooligans stay behind, atleast in the Midlands Derby can't speak for North or south lol. That's what your seeing here. You should watch, the football factory or green street hooligans.
To be honest I never understood that if a bunch of hooligans want to meet up somewhere out the way and have a scrap why the police get involved, a bunch of consenting adult fellas, if they want to get it on and no innocent people are caught up in it let em go at it, its the same as sex right? As long as everyone is a consenting adult and they do it out of the way of other folk it should be all good.
Exactly. Let them get themselves killed if they want to 🤷♂️ if a bunch of morons want to get beaten to death over a footy game, let them. As long as they're not doing any harm to any innocent people in the rest of society let them go for it.
I myself used to be a football hooligan and have to disagree with you. The reason why is I was a football hooligan between the ages of 17and 23 what if I’d been seriously injured or even killed. I agree with the sentiment it would have been my own fault and therefore nobody should pity me, but what of my parents? My mother would have been devastated. It’s the same as any self destructive route you take in life alcohol, gambling, drugs, suicide, that choice doesn’t just affect you but the people around you. Although I do understand your thinking behind it.
@@hyperstar1867 Did you ever inflict serious harm on anyone whilst engaging in football hooliganism? Did you ever have serious harm inflicted upon yourself? If so did either of you reach out in remorse to the other after the event?
@@georgerubypoppy1063 Well you’ll be surprised, the majority of the time you don’t really get that badly injured, even during the real bad years of football hooligans (late 70s through the 80s) you didn’t hear of many people getting killed or really very badly injured due to football hooliganism. This was mainly down to if someone went down or pulled away you stop attacking as they have become a non combatant and you’d look for the next guy. Saying that I did break a Cardiff lads cheekbone once, and got arrested shortly after for ABH but the guy didn’t press charges and the police didn’t have enough to go on. Worst I had was a few black eyes had bruised ribs from getting kicked on the floor and a broken left wrist, I nearly got killed once though, we were up against Watford and some nut job threw a paving slab at my head, I just ducked in time. But I’m not proud of those days, as a non hooligan friend of mine Paul always said to me “it’s not big and it’s not clever” and he was right.
Good Reaction, My Friend though Millwall v West Ham has to be Number 1 if they showed sufficient old footage of their previous encounters. I still, vividly, recall a 1972 Testimonial ( "Friendly " ) match ( a misnomer if I ever heard one lol ) at The Old Den @ Millwall that carried on long into the night. Sometimes whole Cities are separated and transport diverted so never the twain meet :)
With Everton vs Liverpool rivalry - for 90 minutes a few times a year we are enemies. Thing is though the rest of the year we will have each others backs like no other city in the world. For 30 odd years lfc fans have fought for justice over the Hillsborough disaster and Everton fans have supported them every step of the way. On match days we are divided. The rest of the time we are one city.
Down this way it's Plymouth v Exeter; but as they're no longer in the same division they don't currently play each other. Pies are always popular at any game but bananas are banned for obvious reasons...
As an Aston Villa supporter who attends many games, what I can say is that football violence is NOTHING compared to 30 years ago. These days it's a lot more organised. If a fights going to happen, it's usually organised well in advance with a specific location cited. What you see actually at matches is usually just 'fans' who can't handle their beer.
A lot of the northern derbies are really intense as a result of the coal miners strike back in the 80s, when the National Coal Miners Union took everyone out on strike against Thatcher's policies, and some towns (who had productive well paid mines) broke the strike and went to work. So now when those towns and cities play each other, even to this day, there is very real animosity and hatred between the sides.
At 17.29 did someone throw something in white, and then a couple seconds later did someone then catch it? Like there's a white flag or something floating from the left hand side of the screen, comes in from the bottom
Man U v Liverpool was always a nasty clash in the bad old days but thankfully there's a lot less violence at and around the matches these days. The 70s and 80s were totally different to today. You certainly wouldn't have taken your kids to the game
I was a kid going to the games back then, for a few seasons I went home and away to every United game from the time I was about 15 up until I was 20, that would be '76 to '81. still went a lot after that but not to every game. Guess I was lucky that I was following United cos we had the most fans, but traveling across London to somewhere like the Boleyn ground was a bit like that film 'The Warriors' :)
@@baf_mcnab3065 my older brother told me that the only time he really shit it was going to Upton Park, West Ham had a welcoming committee waiting outside the station to dish out a kicking, my brother and the lads he was with got legged to the South Bank which was the away end where more West Ham were waiting. Got booted into the ground (literally) then found out once they were in that there were as many West Ham in there as his lot.
@@carlh429 Sounds about right, one time 8 or 9 of us went down in a mini bus., got near Forest gate and parked up, saw a bigger mini bus with about 12-14 guys in, wearing light blue short sleeved shirts, thought it was a police escort 'till they all climbed out and started getting tools out. Crowbars, pick axe handles and so on. We found somewhere else to park :)
I'd put West Ham / Millwall as No.1. Two sets of fans with notoriously bad reputations. Hate founded on locality and violence. Celtic / Rangers is of course the most intense rivalry in the UK though. All of the above, with religion and history thrown in too. My own local derby is Swindon / Oxford. Fierce enough in itself, glad it made the list 🙂
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Thankfully violence at football games isn't nearly as bad as the 70s/80s. For the Old firm they kick the games of at 12 noon so the punters don't have time to get drunk. My Team Partick Thistle has a rivalry with Clyde FC. Never seen any trouble at a Partick Match ever (I used to live next to the ground so went to most games) even with the old firm.
England is the size of Alabama but with 56 million people living in it. Many towns and cities are just a few miles apart. Tribal rivalry is typified in football rivalry. To boot, many cities (Sheffield, Liverpool, London, Birmingham, Manchester) have more than one club. Are you blue or red......white or red.........etc. You "follow" your team at home and when playing away- crowd segregation to keep home and away fans seperate. And today, it is 100x better than it was in the 70s and 80s!!
It's all disgusting and a large part of why going to a football game is no longer a family day out. Having said that - it's a large number of hooligans but they don't represent the average football fan.
Alright pal,hope u are well,I’m a big fan of ur channel and share the same sense of humour as u,Billy Connolly being the all time best…. While u are looking at the football I was hoping u would consider having a look a Celtic Football club,we have a fan base all over the world and we make friends everywhere,I’m an Irishman and we have a massive connection with Celtic fc as it was founded by an Irish priest in 1887 to raise money for the homeless Irish people…. Would you please do a video of the Celtic fan base…..as especially on European games at Celtic park it will give u shivers…. A game I would suggest to look at would be CELTIC 2-1 Barcelona, date 2012….They’re also billy connollys favourite club, Thanks for the entertainment,stay healthy and I look forward to the video 🍀🇮🇪🇱🇷🍀
Maybe it's because we're an island race, we've evolved as fighters because other countries wanted England throughout history We're pretty good when it comes to war if you look back Of course I'm generalising Great reaction brother
Its not really specific to England. Spain and Italy has some wild derbies and has basically surpassed England at this point because of the insane amount of surveillance in England. You need to go down to the Championship or 2nd division for the real rowdy boys.
As a Liverpool fan OG 1982 obviously we have the blue noses (Everton) across the park but for me when the season comes out I immediately look for the Mancs. Reason why is I'm not bitter. An awful lot of evertonians lives revolve around Liverpools results etc and get nasty. Yes there was a brief period in the 80s when Everton where ok. For me though, Everton are forever in our shadow (and they know it 😜). Plus they had to get one our most beloved ex managers to take the helm this season........rest my case. Thank you for an excellent video my bearded friend and you and yours take care. YNWA 👊🏻👍🏻⚽🔴
Plus a terrible season can mean you get regulated down to a worse league or out of a tournament, there for "your" club looses out of millions. Plus a lot of these groups just likes being part of a group that you're willing to fight for and they for you. However in some group's that them vs us have taken over the game.
Southampton fan here (and avid watcher of your channel); I've been to one Saints Vs Pompey (Southampton Vs Portsmouth) game and the atmosphere was like nothing else I've ever experienced. It wasn't a sporting rivalry, the atmosphere was pure hate from both sets of fans. I was literally scared of not getting out alive. The away fans aren't allowed to travel to games on their own, they HAVE to go by coach and be ferried in by police escorts. That was back in 2010 and they beat us 4-1. We didn't play badly but they were two leagues above us, we gave them a good game but give the filthy inbreds their due, they were deserved winners and simply had more class in their team. Two years ago, I was watching the cup draw and they pulled out Pompey and then they pulled out number (whatever we were, we'll say 7 for argument's sake) and I paused the TV and literally started screaming "OMG THAT'S US!!!! I'M SURE WE'RE NEVER SEVEN!!!!!!". Had to literally go and have a drink, compose myself before it was confirmed and the person doing the draw went "And number seven, that's Southampton!" I squealed and it was all I could think about for weeks. Every day I was counting the days with excitement and nerves. I couldn't sleep the night before the game. It was an evening game and I booked the following day off work because there was NO CHANCE of me being there the night after that. Anyway, we are now two leagues above them (as we've been for most of history apart from the 40's, 50's and that little blip in the mid 2000's) and we beat them 4-0. They were by far the better team for the first 20 minutes (as lower league teams often are when they come against PL opposition) and I was shaking! Then we went 1-0 up and as soon as that goal went in, all the tension and nerves just vanished because after that there was only one team in it. Very similar to the game back in 2010 but roles reversed. As we did in 2010, they did play well and as much as I despise them, they were certainly up for it and didn't disgrace themselves. When the game ended 4-0, I phoned a bunch of people and that is literally all I remember of the night. I just know I woke up about 200 quid worse off and a massive head ache lol!!! Sorry for the essay but once I started writing, I couldn't stop so hope you enjoyed my mini-account of our most recent 'derby day'.
Oh you mean the 40's and 50's when Pompey won consecutive league champions titles, which reminds me, how many times have Saints won the league championship??( for those who dont know the answer, the answer is that Southampton have NEVER won the league championship....EVER!!!) ..............While the boys in blue have won two league championships, and have two FA Cup wins, plus three other FA cup final appearances, and in the course of our history we have won the championships of all four divisions, a feat achieved by very few clubs indeed, and despite currently languishing below Saints, our time will come again...........but you're dead right about one thing, the atmosphere at a South-Coast derby game is indescribable, and like nothing else you can imagine........it's hostile in the extreme, I kid you not!! Some years ago, the then Pompey manager, former World Cup winner Alan Ball, (who at one time played for Southampton)made a great quote, when describing the city of Portsmouth, which for centuries has been the home of the Royal Navy, when he said that "Portsmouth is a tough street fighting city, people went to war from here!"
@@crazeamnesty8355 Not at all I think the Scottish leagues do rather well for the size of the population, about half that of London. Plus the fans are better behaved and more loyal. There is a higher percentage of the population attend games in Scotland than England. Plus though I grant you they would be unlikely to be asked, I doubt any of them would have joined a European Super League
I am a nottingham forest fan but millwill fans are the hardest firm they where banned at one point from attending away games and that flag of leeds behind you should have on it dirty leeds you could look into why leeds are called dirty leeds started by the late brian clough the bestfootball manager ever
Appreciate I'm a bit late to this video. A Derby game is normally (geography wise the close team to you geography wise) it's all that's matters as Most of the time it's against friends, family or work colleagues. Nothing else matters I'm from Grimsby and when we play Scunny, hull or Lincoln that's all that's matters
The biggest rivalry in U.K football is the Glasgow old firm derby post match violence still goes on today and thankfully not as bad as it used to be .there has been players arrested after the games
I am not sure why the fire at the Bradford game is in this list. The whole terrace was made of wood and caught fire, 56 people died and 265 people were injured as a result. It was aired live on TV as at the time TV broadcasters never used to censor events, I can still remember the images that unfolded that day. It was not due to fans being disruptive, it was deemed that a dropped cigarette caused it, which is why I am not sure why it made this list.
@@georgerubypoppy1063 and @Allan D If I am wrong then fair play to the both of you, I am man enough to admit I was wrong. The footage looked very similar as to how that fire started especially at 09:20 Then following fans running away from the stands. As said if I am wrong then I am wrong, I thank you for pointing that out.
Ronaldo resigned for the red devil's (Manchester United)my team, there's bitter rivalry between the reds and sky blues and an even bigger rivalry between United & Liverpool
Every club in the uk has a group or firm made up of maybe 20-30 at smaller clubs to 100s at bigger clubs which will look for each other before and after the game, now when England play most rivalries are put aside and the target is then the other national teams fans Germany Holland etc etc you should react to the real football factories international ENGLAND
The hooligans were at their peak in the 1970’s and 80’s but these days any fights are on a much smaller scale and many countries have much worse crowd violence than the U.K. now.
Just wait for Millwall West Ham to play and you'll be thinking we're back in the 70's 😂
@@westham5047 Especially as Millwall should, realistically, be given a far greater allocation in a 60,000 capacity stadium rather than the paltry 1,500 previously at that, admittedly, fabulous FOOTBALL Stadium that was Upton Park.
The Boleyn was one of the most atmospheric grounds as was The OLD Den that Millwall left 28 long years ago in 1993.
@@Isleofskye Everytime Millwall is mentioned I see your name pop up mate 😂 Got a lot of respect for Millwall if I'm honest. 2 similar clubs but if and when we come up against eachother again that will all change and I can't wait for that day
Yes, My friend.My first attended match was Millwall 5 Hull City 1 on 3rd September 1962 so 59 years ago and my first West Ham game was v WBA and Brian Dear broke the record with 5 goals as West Ham won 6/1. Something quite magical to this 11-year-old and I visited 84 grounds with Millwall from Carlisle to Plymouth.Funnily enough in 1972, I went on holiday to St.Anton in Austria for 10 days (£36 including all travel as I recall lol ) and when we were on the 5-hour coach trip from Geneva to Austria we saw Brian Dear as part of our Group along with a famous Actor then: Kenneth Cope :)
@@westham5047 That West Ham game I mentioned was March 1965 and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of the River I would have definitely been a Hammer instead of being born at The Elephant and Castle mate :)
The one thing to remember is, Football is a religion and devotees are totally loyal to their team and players
"kevin bridges i once accidentally bought a horse ". This is really funny
Thank goodness things aren`t as bad as this now. Where my parents lived, from the bus stop at the top of the road, you could see the floodlights at Villa Park, just over a mile and a half away, Birmingham City and West Brom, both about three and half miles (different directions, obviously). So rivalries were very local indeed.
There's usually quite a few police officers at regular games but when it's derby matches like these, there are so many officers that it's basically impossible to be anywhere and not see one. As one of the more older derby's, Blackburn vs Burnley is my local derby and although we haven't played each other in years (different leagues), I remember one of the last times there was a game between the two. Away fans were banned from travelling to the stadium themselves and instead had to go on a club coach there and back even though there is not much distance between the two clubs and some fans probably lived close enough to walk. Once the coaches arrived fans had to go straight into the stadium and couldn't go anywhere else. Same thing happened after the game where fans had to go straight back on the coaches.
Football is a passion for all supporters of all clubs. That's why we love it
I know at the Newcastle/Sunderland derby they call in officers from other areas. My boyfriends dad dealt with a lot of our local football team's (here in Middlesbrough, just south of Sunderland) matches and was usually drafted in because of his experience. That's how many officers are usually needed.
They know derby matches will kick off, and they've got to have police available in other areas of the town too for non-football related issues.
Away fans are also usually held back for 30 mins after the match has ended to let the home fans out and to have them be away from the stadium, all to avoid fighting. The away fans are also then usually corralled to the train stations/car parks. That's why you'll see lines of officers outside of the stadiums, they're keeping them on one track, rather than risking them spreading out and fighting. Force them to the train stations, get them on the trains, and fewer issues arise
A lot of this video shows fans from the 1970's and 1980's when fans fighting was more common than it is now. Back then it was known that rival gangs would arrange a fight advance
In the northeast the big one is Sunderland v Newcastle but sometimes you also get Newcastle/Sunderland v Middlesbrough which I've seen the Middlesbrough fans get a police escort on their way up to and from Sunderland or Newcastle on the A19
I live very close to MFC (Millwall), and remember back in the 70's all the local shops would be shut up by 1:30pm. The rival teams fans would then be escorted from New Cross Gate Station to the Den (home ground of MFC back then) by the Old Bill on horses. Shops then opened up for a couple of hours before closing at 4 pm. Then the reverse happened. Rival fans didn't dare go into any boozer in the Gate, they would have been annihilated.
I recommend you watch two films about this period in time. The Firm with local boy Gary Oldman and the Football Factory which is set round here and about the rivalry between MFC and Chelsea fans aka the Bushwhackers and the Pensioners ( named after the military retirement complex).
Two more films that I think you will like, Nil By Mouth, semi-autobiographical directed by Gary Oldman. His sister is in in and I know all the places it's set in. The other is called Sexy Beast, Ray Winston, Sir Ben Kingsley and what we round her call a load of faces.
Stay safe and healthy 😍
Millwall had to be closed down twice in the thirties after the crowd mostly dockers rioted. That said Bermondsey and Rotherhithe was from the fifties through to the eighties the crime capital of England. indeed there was a time when you couldn't walk into a pub in Bermondsey or Rotherhithe without bumping into either a gangster a bank robber or a Hoister and back then nearly everyone could have a row.
I always remember when I younger going through new cross with my parents and seeing west ham and millwall supporters fighting I was shitting myself
Bristol City vs Bristol Rovers gets very violent - those Derby’s are pretty rare - almost ten years since the last one, but that only adds to the intensity
Its goes back to tribal encounters which they been doing in England for 2000 years.
Absolutely first class reaction. Pretty much spot on. Please continue with more like this.
The local derbies near me are my hometown club Grimsby Town vs hull city, scunthorpe united and lincoln city as well teams from other teams from Lincolnshire and yorkshire. I was at Chesterfields old ground years ago and Grimsby fans were trying to get on to the pitch. I was at Blundell Park in Cleethorpes and I have seen fights between town fans and fans from other clubs as well as on the pitch. I remember being at vale park home of port vale in stoke and their fans invaded the pitch after town had beaten them and they charged the town fans who ran including myself.
Some context from a Derby Fan.
Derby County and Nottingham Forest form what is known as the East Midlands Derby (sorry Leicester fans, you ain't part of the og event) Both were managed by Brian Clough who went on to take both to the very top f football. Clough took Derby from the foot of Division 2 to division 1 champions in 6 years. Took them to a European semi final as well. He resigned from his job in a power play against the owner which back fired, seeing him depart for Brighton and Leeds, Derby went on to get one more title without Clough but fell back down to the second tier not to long after, and even the third tier too.
When he arrived at Forest they were a very similar club in a very similar position to Derby. However, while he didn't take them to the Division 1 title. He took Forest to two European titles, something much more prestigious and with right, a much harder feat. He had a long career at forest where they became a top flight regular. But shortly after he retired they fell into troubles and fell back into the second tier.
While both sets of fans hate eachother. Just because they are local rivals and it's the classic battle of who is better. Both clubs are united by the man who took them both to the top. So every time they play eachother. They Play for the Brian Clough Trophy. A trophy in his honour which was brought into the game not too long after his passing.
In recent years forest have held the trophy but when it came into the game. Derby held it for a long time.
Many Players and managers have played on both sides of the divide. Even Brian's Son Nigel, Played for Nottingham Forest and was loved by the fans, then went on to Manage Derby and stabilize the club, becoming one of clubs longest serving managers and in some eyes, one of its most memorable.
It's a rivalry that not only brings out the hatred the two sides have against eachother. But it does bring us together in celebration of the man who put our clubs on the Football map. And if it wasn't for him. Both clubs may have never tasted the success they had, and the rivalry that it created.
Clough did win the Division 1 title with Forest in 78
@@StuOfSmeg I thought they won the second division title. Sees what I know 😂. I need to get the old football history books out 😂
Been going to Villa vs Birmingham Derbies since the 70s. it can get a bit spicy, it isn't just confined to the stadium and surrounding areas. The city is a battle ground.
I remember getting surrounded under the New Street ramp when I was a teenager in the late 70s and been asked the question we all dread when the bastards aren't wearing any colours "who do you support" ?
Been born into a Villa family paid off that day.
Many a bone broken at that shed 🤬
What was your reply when asked the question? I hope you guessed right.
I was once in Newcastle just after they had beaten Sunderland 5-1 the line of nearly 30 police horses was something else. The riots/chaos around the city centre too was on another level.
Bristol city Vs Millwall, more windows broken in the city centre than during the blitz.... Millwall Vs anyone = TROUBLE.
Millwall V Chelsea. Millwall V Cardiff. Millwall V Portsmouth. Millwall V Birmingham.
A trifle harsh but justified.1968 Millwall fans marching from the train station to the old Manor Ground to play Oxford, captained by Ron Atkinson, I heard the immortal line from passing American tourists ..... "Gee, that got a CARNIVAL " :)
Also Oxford/Millwall following year in 1968 one mile from the ground Millwall and Oxford met head-to-head and for the first time I saw Millwall run away followed in hot pursuit by the surprised but delighted local fans HOWEVER at a signal Millwall turned round as one and chaos ensued...
Top 5 English football derbies(but not in any respective order):
- NE : Newcastle Utd v. Sunderland
- Merseyside : Liverpool v. Everton
- Manchester : City v. Utd
- London : Arsenal v. Tottenham(with apologies to Chelsea fans!)
- West Midlands : any between the regional 3 of Aston Villa-WBA-Birmingham City
I think the Newcastle/Sunderland Derby is possibly the most 'contested' one in English Football. It can turn extremely violent and has been played with no opposition fans in the ground on several occasions. It's probably the most violent match, potentially, after the Rangers/Celtic one (yes I know that's a Scottish Derby, not an English one). I can't think of any derby that beats that one for the 'extreme' passion thats on show.
Totally agree Amanda this should really be ranked #1
Having been to loads it does get a wee bit tasty still think it’s hilarious that fella punching a horse 😂
@@paulodingle2142 Yep,us NUFC fans will never live that one done,even after the SMB/Mackems fielded the convicted nonce AJ!
On a derby day, On any match day really but derby's are when the real rivalry comes out, I'm a Sheffield Wednesday fan and when we play a Sheffield derby against Sheffield United especially, every pub in the city puts the traditional glass pint pots away and all alcohol is served in plastic pint pots. Saving the local hospitals a lot of work.
Shows how tribal we all are
1968 Millwall fans marching from the train station to the old Manor Ground to play Oxford, captained by Ron Atkinson, I heard the immortal line from passing American tourists ..... "Gee, that got a CARNIVAL " :)
Also Oxford/Millwall following year in 1968 one mile from the ground Millwall and Oxford met head-to-head and for the first time I saw Millwall run away followed in hot pursuit by the surprised but delighted local fans HOWEVER at a signal Millwall turned round as one and chaos ensued...
As an Oxford fan that was a fun story to hear 😂 wish we were still at The Manor.
Some of these rivalries have existed half as long as the USA has been a country. Most of these clips are from a long time ago, the hatreds remain but most of the real violence has stopped thankfully, it wasn't much fun going to a Birmingham derby in the 1970s.
Back in the 1970s there was a joke that went " The Aston Villa vs Birmingham City game was interrupted today when 23 people invaded the pitch and proceeded to kick a football around"
Bristol city Vs Bristol Rovers is my derby, unfortunately I keep moving from one side of Bristol to the other and work in football bars... I used to keep one of each shirt just in case....
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I was at all those Sunderland Newcastle Derby’s utterly mental but very exciting at the time
As 'passionate' as these derbies are (and they are - very passionate), none them compares to Rangers v Celtic.
An Auld Firm derby has to be seen to be believed.
Violence is not just found in derby matches, my 60+ year old mum and I once intervened to stop 3 / 4 lads who jumped out a taxi and pushed one of our fans to the ground and where kicking him. Seems he had been gloating too hard about a random win.
Ìve heard a rumour that Wealdstone f.c have a tough fan base , apparently "If you want some, I'll give it ya" is quite a famous chant along with "You've got no fans, you've got no ground" I'm sure there's footage of one of their die hard fans in action online somewhere 😉.
Vinnie Jones from there, of course :)
@@Isleofskye Stuart Pearce was another 👍
The worst violence used to happen in the 70s and 80s it led to most clubs erecting fences to stop pitch invasions which led to two huge tragedies. There used to be running battles at train stations and on the the way to the stadiums as well as in the ground itself. It led to English football being banned from European football for five years. It was pretty much sorted out at league level by the late 90s but carries on at international level even to this day though it is much less now than it was. Nowadays the violence at football in the UK tends to be much more organised with arranged venues away from the ground and places where the police will be.
I’d give anything to see a Tyne and Wear derby again
Im a Portsmouth fan and our hatred towards the scum (Southampton) is massive, the hatred towards Southampton dates back to the dockyard strike when Southampton workers broke pocket lines and that's how they got called scum. Also the Pompey hooligan firm are called the 657 firm because that was the time of the train they caught leaving Portsmouth on away trips.
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Back in my day, as a Nottingham Forest fan, the clashes we had with Derby County fans were epic. No other match mattered, the hatred was tribal
Back in the day, there was football firm’s (I think that’s what they were called. ) They would fight each other, loads people use to get seriously hurt or stabbed. There is an old movie about it called football factory.
there still is football firms
@@cyberash3000 True.
I know this is specific to English football derbies but as you already know from a previous reaction, the Old Firm derby in Scotland between Glasgow Rangers and Celtic is by far and away the biggest and most intense derby in the UK bar none. There are other notable scottish football derbies like Hearts v Hibs which is kind of like the Old Firm but on a smaller scale and in Edinburgh as opposed to Glasgow. Dundee v Dundee United is probably the last big Scottish derby. The others like Motherwell v Hamilton and Ayr United v Kilmarnock are just for a bit of fun compared to the bigger, more serious ones...❤
Us Airdrie boys don't like Ayr, the reason, I couldn't tell you, but there's always fights and I remember it making the front page of the daily record when we invaded the pitch in Ayr, we also don't like Hearts or Motherwell.
@@RighAlban was it not because Ayr did a pitch invasion when Airdrie was on the verge of Liquidation. I'm sure I heard that story at work about 15 years ago.
@@darrencampbell5145 that kind of rings a bell, I was about 18/19 when old Broomfield closed and I was always drunk at the games so my memory is patchy as F.
Nothing like throwing religious bigotry into a football rivalry is there?
Should react to Green Street, The Football Factory & Rise Of The Footsoldier. Great films all around Football Hooliganism.
What goes on now is nothing compared to the 70s and 80s fans where caged in the terraces with high fences with spikes on top. Only after 97 fans died in a crush where they taken down and grounds became all seater.
A lot of those teams are lower league as well, like Premier (Top tier), Championship (2nd Tier), League One (3rd) and League 2 (Fourth)...72 odd teams all with rabid fanbases, the clubs are the beacon of their town/city so its a defend your home mentality, and a stand your ground when away...Derbies are aways fierce, a lot have actual history aside from football, Southampton/Portsmouth is related to the docks, one went on strike, the other didnt and took all the work leaving the other in financial difficulty, Man Utd and Liverpool are rival northern cities with huge cultura historys within close proximity...so its not all football related...but it goes down to grass roots level to be honest. Ridiculously passionate about our footy here ;) x
what you need to realise is two things, 1) worst rivals are usually quite close to each other (not always, but a lot) and are competing for jobs/prestige/skilled players and more its not just football. 2) young men with no economic prospects look for other ways to gain recognition and status, usually through strength contests, its war without the tanks!
Barring injury in this weeks game for Portugal in the World Cup Qualifiers, Ronaldo should make his 2nd debut for Manchester United at home at Old Trafford against Newcastle United, this Saturday, 11/09/2021. Steve Bruce who used to play for Manchester United, is the present Newcastle United manager, Bruce, a boyhood fan of Newcastle United, said that he sneaked into St James' Park without paying to watch the team play, saying "I have always been a Newcastle lad and when I was a kid, I crawled under the turnstiles to get in to try and save a bob or whatever it was. They were my team, I went to support them as a boy and being a Geordie it's in-bred, you follow the club still the same today." Like several other future professionals from the area, he played football for Wallsend Boys Club. He was also selected for the Newcastle Schools representative team, and at the age of 13 was among a group of players from that team who were selected to serve as ball boys at the 1974 League Cup Final at Wembley Stadium. Injuries continued to take their toll upon Manchester United's Captain, Bryan Robson during the 1992-93 season, leading to Steve Bruce captaining the team in the majority of Man United's matches during the first season of the new Premier League. Bruce scored two late goals in a win over Sheffield Wednesday which proved decisive in United winning the inaugural Premier League title, the first time the club had won the championship of English football since 1967, and he and Robson received the trophy jointly after the home victory over Blackburn Rovers on 3 May. Manchester United dominated English football in the 1993-94 season, winning a second consecutive Premier League title and then defeating Chelsea in the FA Cup final to become only the fourth team, and Bruce the first English captain, to win the Double in the 20th century, FA Cup and League. The 1994-95 season was a disappointing one for Bruce and United, as the club failed in its bid to win a third consecutive Premier League title and lost to Everton in the FA Cup final.
Bruce made his Manchester United debut in a 2-1 win over Portsmouth on 19 December 1987, and played in 21 of United's remaining 22 league fixtures, helping the club to a top-two place in the First Division for the first time since 1980. First Division became the Premier League in 1992.
Liverpool fan here. The matches against Manchester United have always been spicy to say the least, but at a game I went to in 1985 it was like a bad day in Beirut outside the ground. Fights going on all over the place, golf balls with nails stuck in them being thrown you name it! Merseyside Derby day is to and fro good natured ribbing between me and Evertonian family members for about a week before the match, then depending on the result - a lot of rubbing it in afterwards from whoever ends up on the winning side.
Are you referring to the replay at Maine Road? There were darts thrown that night and...oil
Stoke v Vale gets a bit tasty but Vale have been so shite, we haven't played them in nearly 20 years.
Ronaldo Re signed and he scored two in his first game back today... i started crying lol, so many emotions, i'm older than him and remember him when he firs signed back in the day as a youngster
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Villa my team at number 1 😂. Fun fact for you... prince William supports villa too. Just to let you know, when a Derby is on, the police presence will be like 2000, helicopters, roads closed, horses, dog's and even then the fans are not allowed out stadium at same time, the away fans will go and home fans have to stay an extra hour or so until fans dispersed and only the hooligans stay behind, atleast in the Midlands Derby can't speak for North or south lol. That's what your seeing here. You should watch, the football factory or green street hooligans.
That confirms me as a republican. KRO
I love football I support Sheffield Wednesday my ex-boyfriend used to support Sheffield United a big love🇬🇧
WAWAW 🔵 ⚪ 🔵 ⚪
To be honest I never understood that if a bunch of hooligans want to meet up somewhere out the way and have a scrap why the police get involved, a bunch of consenting adult fellas, if they want to get it on and no innocent people are caught up in it let em go at it, its the same as sex right? As long as everyone is a consenting adult and they do it out of the way of other folk it should be all good.
As a football fan I can`t argue. It`d thin the herd and strengthen the gene pool.
Exactly. Let them get themselves killed if they want to 🤷♂️ if a bunch of morons want to get beaten to death over a footy game, let them. As long as they're not doing any harm to any innocent people in the rest of society let them go for it.
I myself used to be a football hooligan and have to disagree with you. The reason why is I was a football hooligan between the ages of 17and 23 what if I’d been seriously injured or even killed. I agree with the sentiment it would have been my own fault and therefore nobody should pity me, but what of my parents? My mother would have been devastated. It’s the same as any self destructive route you take in life alcohol, gambling, drugs, suicide, that choice doesn’t just affect you but the people around you. Although I do understand your thinking behind it.
@@hyperstar1867 Did you ever inflict serious harm on anyone whilst engaging in football hooliganism? Did you ever have serious harm inflicted upon yourself? If so did either of you reach out in remorse to the other after the event?
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Well you’ll be surprised, the majority of the time you don’t really get that badly injured, even during the real bad years of football hooligans (late 70s through the 80s) you didn’t hear of many people getting killed or really very badly injured due to football hooliganism. This was mainly down to if someone went down or pulled away you stop attacking as they have become a non combatant and you’d look for the next guy. Saying that I did break a Cardiff lads cheekbone once, and got arrested shortly after for ABH but the guy didn’t press charges and the police didn’t have enough to go on. Worst I had was a few black eyes had bruised ribs from getting kicked on the floor and a broken left wrist, I nearly got killed once though, we were up against Watford and some nut job threw a paving slab at my head, I just ducked in time. But I’m not proud of those days, as a non hooligan friend of mine Paul always said to me “it’s not big and it’s not clever” and he was right.
Good Reaction, My Friend though Millwall v West Ham has to be Number 1 if they showed sufficient old footage of their previous encounters.
I still, vividly, recall a 1972 Testimonial ( "Friendly " ) match ( a misnomer if I ever heard one lol ) at The Old Den @ Millwall that carried on long into the night.
Sometimes whole Cities are separated and transport diverted so never the twain meet :)
It was far, far worse than this in the 70’s and 80’s, before mobile phones and CCTV!! It’s pronounced “Darbies” BTW 👍🏼
Very much sanitised since the 80s
Also Bedlam was a mental hospital in London
With Everton vs Liverpool rivalry - for 90 minutes a few times a year we are enemies. Thing is though the rest of the year we will have each others backs like no other city in the world.
For 30 odd years lfc fans have fought for justice over the Hillsborough disaster and Everton fans have supported them every step of the way.
On match days we are divided. The rest of the time we are one city.
Yes, fully agree with you.
Fullest respect for Everton lad. Always quiet in a minute's silence. I hope you come 2nd, mate. YNWA.👍
@@robertwright7937 if Everton aren't in a competition always want Liverpool to do well, just suffer getting the win! Lol
Is right lad 👊🏻
@@scousesi1 That's what I love about Scousers. That "In This Together" mentality. I wish everyone was like that. Have a good one mate. 👍
It's pronounced "Darby" in the UK
Gunners vs spurs is my Derby.
Go coys!
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 come on you spurs!!! Coys
I knew he was going to say durrby when i saw the title lol
Come on you Gunners.
Most overrated Derby in English Football. They even played a friendly in pre season!! Imagine West Ham Millwall having a friendly.. would never happen
Down this way it's Plymouth v Exeter; but as they're no longer in the same division they don't currently play each other. Pies are always popular at any game but bananas are banned for obvious reasons...
As an Aston Villa supporter who attends many games, what I can say is that football violence is NOTHING compared to 30 years ago. These days it's a lot more organised. If a fights going to happen, it's usually organised well in advance with a specific location cited. What you see actually at matches is usually just 'fans' who can't handle their beer.
The bad old days.
A lot of the northern derbies are really intense as a result of the coal miners strike back in the 80s, when the National Coal Miners Union took everyone out on strike against Thatcher's policies, and some towns (who had productive well paid mines) broke the strike and went to work.
So now when those towns and cities play each other, even to this day, there is very real animosity and hatred between the sides.
At 17.29 did someone throw something in white, and then a couple seconds later did someone then catch it? Like there's a white flag or something floating from the left hand side of the screen, comes in from the bottom
Man U v Liverpool was always a nasty clash in the bad old days but thankfully there's a lot less violence at and around the matches these days. The 70s and 80s were totally different to today. You certainly wouldn't have taken your kids to the game
I was a kid going to the games back then, for a few seasons I went home and away to every United game from the time I was about 15 up until I was 20, that would be '76 to '81. still went a lot after that but not to every game. Guess I was lucky that I was following United cos we had the most fans, but traveling across London to somewhere like the Boleyn ground was a bit like that film 'The Warriors' :)
1979 Semi Finals were a bit tasty but 1985 was like WW3, went to the first one at Goodison, absolutely insane atmosphere of pure hate.
@@baf_mcnab3065 my older brother told me that the only time he really shit it was going to Upton Park, West Ham had a welcoming committee waiting outside the station to dish out a kicking, my brother and the lads he was with got legged to the South Bank which was the away end where more West Ham were waiting. Got booted into the ground (literally) then found out once they were in that there were as many West Ham in there as his lot.
@@carlh429 Up the Irons 👍
@@carlh429 Sounds about right, one time 8 or 9 of us went down in a mini bus., got near Forest gate and parked up, saw a bigger mini bus with about 12-14 guys in, wearing light blue short sleeved shirts, thought it was a police escort 'till they all climbed out and started getting tools out. Crowbars, pick axe handles and so on. We found somewhere else to park :)
Daryl dike plays for West Bromwich Albion now if u know anything about him as he is a young American player with bags of talent
Surprised the South Wales derby isn't on the list. We were banned from each others stadiums for many years because of the violence
13:15 that was our player starting that chant btw :D
I'd put West Ham / Millwall as No.1. Two sets of fans with notoriously bad reputations. Hate founded on locality and violence. Celtic / Rangers is of course the most intense rivalry in the UK though. All of the above, with religion and history thrown in too. My own local derby is Swindon / Oxford. Fierce enough in itself, glad it made the list 🙂
Ahhhh Sunderland. How i love thee 😍
Haway the Lads.
apologies for last week mwhahahaha lol
best of luck for the rest of the season!
Haven’t been to a match since they became all seated just cannot sit for long periods,
You should watch worst fouls in football. Some were career ending.
Try out watching the movie Green Street.
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Thankfully violence at football games isn't nearly as bad as the 70s/80s. For the Old firm they kick the games of at 12 noon so the punters don't have time to get drunk. My Team Partick Thistle has a rivalry with Clyde FC. Never seen any trouble at a Partick Match ever (I used to live next to the ground so went to most games) even with the old firm.
England is the size of Alabama but with 56 million people living in it. Many towns and cities are just a few miles apart. Tribal rivalry is typified in football rivalry. To boot, many cities (Sheffield, Liverpool, London, Birmingham, Manchester) have more than one club. Are you blue or red......white or red.........etc. You "follow" your team at home and when playing away- crowd segregation to keep home and away fans seperate. And today, it is 100x better than it was in the 70s and 80s!!
It's all disgusting and a large part of why going to a football game is no longer a family day out.
Having said that - it's a large number of hooligans but they don't represent the average football fan.
I go with my dad but I've been to a few games Manchester United Vs Liverpool kicked off like you wouldn't believe
Why was there no Brighton palace. That means more than peoples think
Since it was invented here over 150 years ago its been engraved into our national psyche, football is everything absolutely everything
As a Man Utd fan very happy about ronaldo he’s already got a few goals for us. Messi is still goat tho. World Cup next year will be good.
These are true darbies because some are less then a mile between the club's.
Calling them soccer derrrbys is enough to get your head kicked in some places.
80s football boys really started the whole footy punch up game, just watch Gary oldam in The firm, the rest is history 🤷♂️
Alright pal,hope u are well,I’m a big fan of ur channel and share the same sense of humour as u,Billy Connolly being the all time best….
While u are looking at the football I was hoping u would consider having a look a Celtic Football club,we have a fan base all over the world and we make friends everywhere,I’m an Irishman and we have a massive connection with Celtic fc as it was founded by an Irish priest in 1887 to raise money for the homeless Irish people….
Would you please do a video of the Celtic fan base…..as especially on European games at Celtic park it will give u shivers….
A game I would suggest to look at would be CELTIC 2-1 Barcelona, date 2012….They’re also billy connollys favourite club,
Thanks for the entertainment,stay healthy and I look forward to the video 🍀🇮🇪🇱🇷🍀
Maybe it's because we're an island race, we've evolved as fighters because other countries wanted England throughout history
We're pretty good when it comes to war if you look back
Of course I'm generalising
Great reaction brother
Its not really specific to England. Spain and Italy has some wild derbies and has basically surpassed England at this point because of the insane amount of surveillance in England. You need to go down to the Championship or 2nd division for the real rowdy boys.
As a Liverpool fan OG 1982 obviously we have the blue noses (Everton) across the park but for me when the season comes out I immediately look for the Mancs.
Reason why is I'm not bitter.
An awful lot of evertonians lives revolve around Liverpools results etc and get nasty.
Yes there was a brief period in the 80s when Everton where ok.
For me though, Everton are forever in our shadow (and they know it 😜).
Plus they had to get one our most beloved ex managers to take the helm this season........rest my case.
Thank you for an excellent video my bearded friend and you and yours take care.
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21:35 I’m from Rochdale, lol. It’s actually pronounced roch-dale, not roach-dale.
Plus a terrible season can mean you get regulated down to a worse league or out of a tournament, there for "your" club looses out of millions. Plus a lot of these groups just likes being part of a group that you're willing to fight for and they for you. However in some group's that them vs us have taken over the game.
Do some research on Villa v Birmingham. At least nobody has died in the last couple of matches... Would love to hear an American view.
Southampton fan here (and avid watcher of your channel); I've been to one Saints Vs Pompey (Southampton Vs Portsmouth) game and the atmosphere was like nothing else I've ever experienced. It wasn't a sporting rivalry, the atmosphere was pure hate from both sets of fans. I was literally scared of not getting out alive.
The away fans aren't allowed to travel to games on their own, they HAVE to go by coach and be ferried in by police escorts. That was back in 2010 and they beat us 4-1. We didn't play badly but they were two leagues above us, we gave them a good game but give the filthy inbreds their due, they were deserved winners and simply had more class in their team.
Two years ago, I was watching the cup draw and they pulled out Pompey and then they pulled out number (whatever we were, we'll say 7 for argument's sake) and I paused the TV and literally started screaming "OMG THAT'S US!!!! I'M SURE WE'RE NEVER SEVEN!!!!!!". Had to literally go and have a drink, compose myself before it was confirmed and the person doing the draw went "And number seven, that's Southampton!" I squealed and it was all I could think about for weeks. Every day I was counting the days with excitement and nerves. I couldn't sleep the night before the game.
It was an evening game and I booked the following day off work because there was NO CHANCE of me being there the night after that. Anyway, we are now two leagues above them (as we've been for most of history apart from the 40's, 50's and that little blip in the mid 2000's) and we beat them 4-0. They were by far the better team for the first 20 minutes (as lower league teams often are when they come against PL opposition) and I was shaking! Then we went 1-0 up and as soon as that goal went in, all the tension and nerves just vanished because after that there was only one team in it. Very similar to the game back in 2010 but roles reversed. As we did in 2010, they did play well and as much as I despise them, they were certainly up for it and didn't disgrace themselves. When the game ended 4-0, I phoned a bunch of people and that is literally all I remember of the night. I just know I woke up about 200 quid worse off and a massive head ache lol!!!
Sorry for the essay but once I started writing, I couldn't stop so hope you enjoyed my mini-account of our most recent 'derby day'.
Oh you mean the 40's and 50's when Pompey won consecutive league champions titles, which reminds me, how many times have Saints won the league championship??( for those who dont know the answer, the answer is that Southampton have NEVER won the league championship....EVER!!!) ..............While the boys in blue have won two league championships, and have two FA Cup wins, plus three other FA cup final appearances, and in the course of our history we have won the championships of all four divisions, a feat achieved by very few clubs indeed, and despite currently languishing below Saints, our time will come again...........but you're dead right about one thing, the atmosphere at a South-Coast derby game is indescribable, and like nothing else you can imagine........it's hostile in the extreme, I kid you not!! Some years ago, the then Pompey manager, former World Cup winner Alan Ball, (who at one time played for Southampton)made a great quote, when describing the city of Portsmouth, which for centuries has been the home of the Royal Navy, when he said that "Portsmouth is a tough street fighting city, people went to war from here!"
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Question is, will it come with the Cowley Bros??
All good derbies.. but pale into insignificance compared to the "auld firm" games, sadly which no longer exist in the same capacity. Celtic v Rangers.
Pompey Vs Scummers is worse
Nothing in the English leagues compares to the Old Firm Derby
the only thing the scottish league got tbh everything else england is better at
That's all you have to look forward to in Scotland lol
@@crazeamnesty8355 does that include booing your own team when they take a knee?
@@dalbhuie_youtubeaddedanumber did i hurt your feelings for telling the truth??
@@crazeamnesty8355 Not at all I think the Scottish leagues do rather well for the size of the population, about half that of London. Plus the fans are better behaved and more loyal. There is a higher percentage of the population attend games in Scotland than England. Plus though I grant you they would be unlikely to be asked, I doubt any of them would have joined a European Super League
Any chance of making the video screen that you are watching bigger please?
I am a nottingham forest fan but millwill fans are the hardest firm they where banned at one point from attending away games
and that flag of leeds behind you should have on it dirty leeds
you could look into why leeds are called dirty leeds started by the late brian clough the bestfootball manager ever
in the 70s and 80s the competition was who were the biggest thugs. Millwall were always up there. Football came second.
Disappointed they didnt include the Birmingham fan running onto the field and punching Aston Villa player Jack Grealish
Appreciate I'm a bit late to this video. A Derby game is normally (geography wise the close team to you geography wise) it's all that's matters as Most of the time it's against friends, family or work colleagues. Nothing else matters
I'm from Grimsby and when we play Scunny, hull or Lincoln that's all that's matters
Rugby fan here thinking "dumb wankers"
these arnt in order, the blackpool preston darby was MUCH more important and bigger than many these
The biggest rivalry in U.K football is the Glasgow old firm derby post match violence still goes on today and thankfully not as bad as it used to be .there has been players arrested after the games
Less 'Derby' and more 'Thuggery'!!!
I am not sure why the fire at the Bradford game is in this list. The whole terrace was made of wood and caught fire, 56 people died and 265 people were injured as a result. It was aired live on TV as at the time TV broadcasters never used to censor events, I can still remember the images that unfolded that day. It was not due to fans being disruptive, it was deemed that a dropped cigarette caused it, which is why I am not sure why it made this list.
That was not the same game
@@alland1241 With all due respect fella yes it was.
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care to change your view on this ??
@@AnglOsAxOn2 With all due respect to you fella, no it wasn`t. The fire on this video looked like a portacabin, or something similar, ablaze.
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If I am wrong then fair play to the both of you, I am man enough to admit I was wrong. The footage looked very similar as to how that fire started especially at 09:20
Then following fans running away from the stands. As said if I am wrong then I am wrong, I thank you for pointing that out.
Ronaldo resigned for the red devil's (Manchester United)my team, there's bitter rivalry between the reds and sky blues and an even bigger rivalry between United & Liverpool
A Utd fan eh so which part of Surrey are you from
Every club in the uk has a group or firm made up of maybe 20-30 at smaller clubs to 100s at bigger clubs which will look for each other before and after the game, now when England play most rivalries are put aside and the target is then the other national teams fans Germany Holland etc etc you should react to the real football factories international ENGLAND
Leeds have much worse issues with other clubs, Bradford most don't even give a shit about.