I have said this before. Ev needs to have solar power installed. Idk if you can hook up portable solar panels, but they should come with. Why can't they make the roof solar? What if you like to boondock? It's great you can get power from the truck, but..... how do you get home when you run out of power?
Like make the body panels out of solar panels… it seems doable. What are hazards if the panels are cracked or damaged as vehicles tend to get door dings and what not. Would the interior of the car get crazy hot and more unsafe? Or maybe a removable solar panel that can be placed on the roof when parked for long periods? It seems that companies would rather self use electric power by the kWh though
@Chris COTA16 I'm even thinking about the non-drive wheel. Make that like a wind turbine? But I'm not an engineer. But then electric companies won't make millions/billions. I'm sure they made deals with the car companies
Will happen when solar panels are more efficient. If we get 40% efficiency from solar panels, then most electric cars might come with solar. Right now? Don't think so.
You need to use your lightning to tow your RV to the campground then plug it into the truck over a 4 day period then drive home with the RV in tow. That would be a better test.
This has been helpful. I’m not towing a camper, but I do sometimes tow a 7x16 enclosed trailer. I really like the lighting, but my dealer stated the order books are not open yet and that even when they open, it may be more than a year before you could get one.
Seems funny saying I need to start the truck. More like let me flip the switch! Problem is 50A rvs are wired with most of the load on one leg. Your second ac is dedicated to the unloaded side. You'd need to reconfigure your rv panel to take advantage of the 240v 4 w service on the lightning as your max capacity is 30 A per phase and shore power is 50 A. Wish it had been warm enough to run both acs to see the load balance.
Good stuff! Love the onboard power but I would still take the hybrid over the all electric. You could plugged in a hair dryer and the breaker probably would’ve tripped at that point. Great video JB.
The initial 220 watts being used when you first connected the trailer was being used by the trailers battery charger, but from circuit A of the 240 volt connector.
It may power it, but it can't safely tow it. As others have pointed out on ther of your videos, make a HD hybrid and then you might have something that makes sense.
Since your AC fans are running on circuit B of the truck bed power then your AC compressor will also run off circuit B And since it appears as though the majority if your recepticals are connected to the trucks circuit A then most likely your water heater is also connected to circuit B of the trucks bed power. Keeping in mind you could still plug in up to 2400 watts of appliances into the frunk or cab recepticals. Keep in mind those recepticals have limited surge capabilities unlike the bed recepticals which have a 3600 watt surge capability, which allows them to run larger units like welders, air compressors or table saws.
You could plug things in and find out witch plugs A or B side of your power you are using. Then mark them A or B then you could equal out your power useage.Instead of using 3000 watts on A and 700 watts on B.
Withe the refrigerator on you are drawing 400 watts from circuit B and it appears as thought your 12 volt converter current draw has dropped from the initial 220 watts to 180 watts.
The 3460 you started using was an increase from 430 watts. So the microwave and air fryer you plugged in are using approximately 3030 watts. And circuit A has dropped a little to 690 watts from 740 watts. Still leaving about 3510 watts available on circuit B. Since your AC fans are running on circuit B then if your AC compressor was to turn on you'd still be fine because it would also run off circuit B. I'm assuming your water heater is also connected to circuit B. If that's true then you'd probably be able to run that too.
If you camp out at a charge station you should have no issues 🤣🤣. On a serious note, figure 60-100 miles is the range and if you plan on using the generator than you’re going to probably use at least 10 miles if you’re running A/C units and cooking with air fryers. The water heater could also use a lot of power as well 🇺🇸💪🏾
What ford needs to do is. Put a 50amp power boost on the HD trucks. It would really be a game changer for the RV world especially when campgrounds are still suffering from insufficient power capacity. Don't know how many times I have lost power at a campground.
The onboard power is a good idea. I will definitely give props to Ford for doing this. However, unless you have a true home backup generator (I’m talking 20k plus watts) you will ALWAYS run out of amps trying to power household appliances with this truck or more typical portable generators. You have to remember you only have 30 amps. So you can try and add up appliances based off their wattage but you still only have 30 amps. So a coffee pot or keurig for example when heating will pull 12-13 amps. A household microwave will pull about the same. A hair dryer will pull about the same. Those three things together will kick the breaker. And if you add up the watts you would only come up with 4000-4500 so you might think you’re good but you would be wrong. So again, it’s a fantastic idea and I hope GM follows suit snd offers some kind of better inverter for their trucks. But don’t get caught up in just counting watts. That outlet you’re plugged into is only good for 30 amps and that’s the standard generator outlet (L14-30 twist) that’s on every generator that puts out 30 amp/240 volts.
Bingo, a 30 amp plug would get fried at some point running the amount of wattage needed unless they have some type of plug that can draw current from the 20 amp to make 50. Even having soft starts on my A/C units I can trip the breakers so powering an entire house seems far fetch 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Yeap. You could plug straight into the truck with chords and get the full amount of wattage they advertise just not going solely through the 30 amp plug. Like for example my portable generator that’s 8000 running watts and 11500 starting watts has a total amp output of 66 amps. But just like this truck going through the 30 amp plug you’re limited to 30 amps. That’s one of the reasons I bought my new 3000 watt inverter generator to go racing. My trailer has a 30 amp RV outlet to get my power so my 8000 watt generator was way overkill plus I still can’t exceed 30 amps.
It looks like most of the recepticals you're using in your trailer are on the same circuit. You still have 2900 watts available on circuit B. So nearly 3600 watts is being used on one side of your trailers 240 volt circuit panel. This is truly an unbalanced load. Even though the majority of things you have running are plugged into different outlets those are all plugged into the same circuit of your truck.
Ford shows the Lighting way up in the woods charging the dudes E motor cycle and keeping his old lady happy with electrics in the RV at the same time hahah We know now that wont be happing. the ford cant tow very far at all.
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I have said this before. Ev needs to have solar power installed. Idk if you can hook up portable solar panels, but they should come with. Why can't they make the roof solar? What if you like to boondock? It's great you can get power from the truck, but..... how do you get home when you run out of power?
Like make the body panels out of solar panels… it seems doable. What are hazards if the panels are cracked or damaged as vehicles tend to get door dings and what not. Would the interior of the car get crazy hot and more unsafe? Or maybe a removable solar panel that can be placed on the roof when parked for long periods? It seems that companies would rather self use electric power by the kWh though
@Chris COTA16 I'm even thinking about the non-drive wheel. Make that like a wind turbine? But I'm not an engineer. But then electric companies won't make millions/billions. I'm sure they made deals with the car companies
The Prius had something similar to this but the solar panels only benefited helping the AC cool faster
Will happen when solar panels are more efficient. If we get 40% efficiency from solar panels, then most electric cars might come with solar. Right now? Don't think so.
You need to use your lightning to tow your RV to the campground then plug it into the truck over a 4 day period then drive home with the RV in tow. That would be a better test.
That truck couldn’t tow my fifth wheel even if it had a prep package
This has been helpful. I’m not towing a camper, but I do sometimes tow a 7x16 enclosed trailer. I really like the lighting, but my dealer stated the order books are not open yet and that even when they open, it may be more than a year before you could get one.
Oh wow… that is crazy. Larry H Miller Super Ford has some in stock, you should check them out 👍🏾
Seems funny saying I need to start the truck. More like let me flip the switch! Problem is 50A rvs are wired with most of the load on one leg. Your second ac is dedicated to the unloaded side. You'd need to reconfigure your rv panel to take advantage of the 240v 4 w service on the lightning as your max capacity is 30 A per phase and shore power is 50 A. Wish it had been warm enough to run both acs to see the load balance.
Good stuff and I don’t know why Ford wouldn’t at least add a 50 amp option…
Good stuff! Love the onboard power but I would still take the hybrid over the all electric. You could plugged in a hair dryer and the breaker probably would’ve tripped at that point. Great video JB.
I agree, range anxiety kicks in with EV’s and I think it’s a stressful experience as if towing isn’t already stressful. Thanks bro 👍🏾
Turning on the AC fans & the 3 TV's increased the wattage on circuit A by 30 watts and increased circuit B to 720 watts.
Captain I'm giving her all shes got!
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The initial 220 watts being used when you first connected the trailer was being used by the trailers battery charger, but from circuit A of the 240 volt connector.
It may power it, but it can't safely tow it. As others have pointed out on ther of your videos, make a HD hybrid and then you might have something that makes sense.
You are 100% correct and I would never tow a fifth wheel with this. HD hybrid would be awesome Especially if they could mate a diesel with it 👍🏾
The powerboost has 7.2kw of on-board power and it can easily power my 29 foot travel trailer. Great content.
Thanks for sharing this, that’s still a crazy amount of power and your truck is what I would purchase over this 👍🏾
Since your AC fans are running on circuit B of the truck bed power then your AC compressor will also run off circuit B And since it appears as though the majority if your recepticals are connected to the trucks circuit A then most likely your water heater is also connected to circuit B of the trucks bed power. Keeping in mind you could still plug in up to 2400 watts of appliances into the frunk or cab recepticals. Keep in mind those recepticals have limited surge capabilities unlike the bed recepticals which have a 3600 watt surge capability, which allows them to run larger units like welders, air compressors or table saws.
You could plug things in and find out witch plugs A or B side of your power you are using. Then mark them A or B then you could equal out your power useage.Instead of using 3000 watts on A and 700 watts on B.
As a former HVAC technician, please don’t try to run your AC compressors in cold weather, it will burn them out due to the oil being cold and thick.
Yep.
Thanks, I didn’t know that 👍🏾👍🏾
Did you ever hear of a heat pump?
It's not as good as you think, that AC will destroy what you have available. And how long can you run it for? That's the biggest question.
I bet if it was the summer time and I was running both A/C all day, it would probably need to be charged within a couple of days 👍🏾
Can you please share the link to buy the truck bed plug to RV cord adapter ? Many thanks.
Withe the refrigerator on you are drawing 400 watts from circuit B and it appears as thought your 12 volt converter current draw has dropped from the initial 220 watts to 180 watts.
Great Video right on topic👍
Thanks!
The 3460 you started using was an increase from 430 watts. So the microwave and air fryer you plugged in are using approximately 3030 watts. And circuit A has dropped a little to 690 watts from 740 watts. Still leaving about 3510 watts available on circuit B. Since your AC fans are running on circuit B then if your AC compressor was to turn on you'd still be fine because it would also run off circuit B. I'm assuming your water heater is also connected to circuit B. If that's true then you'd probably be able to run that too.
You know you can see what's happening in the app on your phone. You don't have to run outside everytime to see how many watts are being used.
True, I didn’t install the app because the truck was a loaner 👍🏾
Pretty cool. How far could you tow an Rv then power it for the night then make it back home?
Maybe 50 miles if you conserved and took portable solar panels or had a solar ready rv. 1% of battery per mile when heavy towing, far from ideal.
If you camp out at a charge station you should have no issues 🤣🤣. On a serious note, figure 60-100 miles is the range and if you plan on using the generator than you’re going to probably use at least 10 miles if you’re running A/C units and cooking with air fryers. The water heater could also use a lot of power as well 🇺🇸💪🏾
What ford needs to do is. Put a 50amp power boost on the HD trucks. It would really be a game changer for the RV world especially when campgrounds are still suffering from insufficient power capacity. Don't know how many times I have lost power at a campground.
I agree, especially for people who dry camp
The onboard power is a good idea. I will definitely give props to Ford for doing this. However, unless you have a true home backup generator (I’m talking 20k plus watts) you will ALWAYS run out of amps trying to power household appliances with this truck or more typical portable generators. You have to remember you only have 30 amps. So you can try and add up appliances based off their wattage but you still only have 30 amps. So a coffee pot or keurig for example when heating will pull 12-13 amps. A household microwave will pull about the same. A hair dryer will pull about the same. Those three things together will kick the breaker. And if you add up the watts you would only come up with 4000-4500 so you might think you’re good but you would be wrong.
So again, it’s a fantastic idea and I hope GM follows suit snd offers some kind of better inverter for their trucks. But don’t get caught up in just counting watts. That outlet you’re plugged into is only good for 30 amps and that’s the standard generator outlet (L14-30 twist) that’s on every generator that puts out 30 amp/240 volts.
Bingo, a 30 amp plug would get fried at some point running the amount of wattage needed unless they have some type of plug that can draw current from the 20 amp to make 50. Even having soft starts on my A/C units I can trip the breakers so powering an entire house seems far fetch 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Yeap. You could plug straight into the truck with chords and get the full amount of wattage they advertise just not going solely through the 30 amp plug.
Like for example my portable generator that’s 8000 running watts and 11500 starting watts has a total amp output of 66 amps. But just like this truck going through the 30 amp plug you’re limited to 30 amps. That’s one of the reasons I bought my new 3000 watt inverter generator to go racing. My trailer has a 30 amp RV outlet to get my power so my 8000 watt generator was way overkill plus I still can’t exceed 30 amps.
Ford hybrid will do the same my brother runs his camper off his all the time
Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
It looks like most of the recepticals you're using in your trailer are on the same circuit. You still have 2900 watts available on circuit B. So nearly 3600 watts is being used on one side of your trailers 240 volt circuit panel. This is truly an unbalanced load. Even though the majority of things you have running are plugged into different outlets those are all plugged into the same circuit of your truck.
Need a PhD. in plugs for that sucker!
Ford shows the Lighting way up in the woods charging the dudes E motor cycle and keeping his old lady happy with electrics in the RV at the same time hahah We know now that wont be happing. the ford cant tow very far at all.
Tow your new little RV to Moab with that truck and tell me if you make it non stop and can still power your RV. LOL
That’s why you take a generator with you👍
@@kingranch8516 might as well just use your gas truck and Honda generator.
That’s why the PowerBoost is the truck to get
Lol, nope it wouldn’t make it their and I’m not waiting 2 hours to charge it 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I agree 100%