Seiko SNE-498 & Citizen BN0151-09L comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @alphallama5586
    @alphallama5586 Год назад +18

    In reference to the dial glass on the citizen - Mineral crystals are tempered with chemical and heat treatments to make them harder and stronger. They’re a lot more scratch-resistant than acrylic dial protectors, and are more likely to chip rather than shatter, unlike sapphire crystals. This is why on a Dive watch manufacturers quite often choose mineral glass over sapphire. If you glance a rock or metal structure underwater you'll be more appreciative of a chip rather than a shatter moment. Sorry I'm a diver hence the lengthy and possibly unneeded over explanation. If you are someone that wants to use this watch for its implied description - stick to the mineral glass.

    • @TravisHi_YT
      @TravisHi_YT Год назад

      I appreciate the detailed answer.

  • @richardbosh4522
    @richardbosh4522 2 года назад +25

    Citizen BN Promaster under $200 built like a tank 4 years wearing mine.

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a bit late here I guess but here it goes.
    I have the Promaster BNO150 ( black dial ) version.
    It came on that uncomfortable rubber strap...wore it for a month and then bought a stainless steel bracelet had it fitted and installed and never looked back.
    Island Watch makes two bracelet styles for the BNO150 and BNO151.
    A jube an oyster.
    I've had this watch for 11 months and wear it each day, by that I mean 7 days a week.
    I love it..a lot.

  • @djapojunior
    @djapojunior 3 года назад +13

    Great watches! Bought the Citizen BN0150 recently and it is slowly becoming my favourite watch, just love it! 💪👏

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +1

      Tom, they are definitely great watches. Fun with different straps too. Cheers, and thanks for tuning in!

  • @brianbuchert6382
    @brianbuchert6382 3 года назад +12

    I have the citizen for a cpl years and I’m still in love with it I can’t say enough about it! The seiko looks cool too but the citizen is so much more less expensive so I’ll stick with it for now!

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад +1

      It's a great watch!! Happy New Year 🎊🎉

  • @csharpewalls
    @csharpewalls 3 года назад +27

    I really like the Citizen and especially since you said it should last me at least 25 years, so if I buy one I should live to 96 😎

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +3

      That sounds like a plan buddy!😁👍

    • @roadgent7921
      @roadgent7921 3 года назад +3

      That's the spirit - positive thinking!!

  • @carlmagnuswilson1215
    @carlmagnuswilson1215 2 года назад +4

    I’ve had the black version ov the Citizen for about a year and I must say that I absolutely love it. I put a lens on the date though

  • @karlroberts3179
    @karlroberts3179 3 года назад +9

    Owned both , including both coloured Citizens. Sold the Seiko because of misalignment.
    I’ve owned most of the popular Seiko Divers, and Tunas over the last 20y.
    I wear my Citizen Black more than any dive watch I’ve ever had. Sits nicely, and not too tall under a jacket. I think the beveled bezel helps. Super accurate.
    I thought the Seiko looked more expensive, but the Citizen definitely sees more use than all others. I have it on a black Zulu. I actually preferred the Citizen blue better, but it’s just a colour.
    Good review.
    *Edit…….Several months later, and I’ve rebought the SNE498. Hahaha.
    Love the old-school Tuna look.
    This Seiko has perfect alignment. Still think very highly of the BN0150, though.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад +1

      I absolutely love the Citizen. My collection is quite large, so it doesn't get nearly as much wrist time as it deserves. When I do wear it, I'm always impressed with the original style, toughness, and innovation when I look down at it. The Seiko does have a classic '80s Tuna look wich is hard to ignore for watch buffs. Glad you're enjoying your dive watches!! Happy New Year 🎉🎊

  • @enriqueyebratorreblanca8724
    @enriqueyebratorreblanca8724 2 года назад +3

    Got the Citizen BN0151, it's the perfect grab and go watch for me... robust, reliable, sizeable on any wrist and a torch at night. Anyway you can't go wrong with any of these two beauties. Nice job on the video man !!!

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад +1

      I completely agree 😎👍 Thanks so much for your kind comment!

  • @brewblade8318
    @brewblade8318 2 года назад +2

    I have both and two of my favorites. Love the chunky and overall quality of both!

  • @KRW628
    @KRW628 3 года назад +9

    I have a Citizen 0151 (and the black 0150). For around $200, I think these are about the best watches out there. The Seiko solar watches are superb. I've got a solar diver chronograph. I don't care for this model tho, I prefer the Tuna in all steel steel. These new affordable Tunas have a plastic "can".

    • @ChaiBronz
      @ChaiBronz 2 года назад +4

      I'm trying to decide between the 0150 (black) and 0151 (blue).. thoughts?
      Edit: after spending time with both for a few weeks I decided to keep the blue dial. What helped my decision was the black dial had an alignment issue on the bezel, and I didn't like how the "black" dial was more of a dark grey, which gave it a faded look. The cool thing about the blue dial is it can look black in low light settings so it kinda feels like you're getting a 2-in-1 lol

  • @bg-id1uo
    @bg-id1uo 3 года назад +2

    Thnx for the reviews!! And on a Citizen watch ,their 5 year warranty is a great plus too!

  • @Aonghus53
    @Aonghus53 3 года назад +9

    The Seiko is more attractive but the Citizen is a rugged piece. I've had this 168 movement in another Citizen for eight years. It has been knocked about at sea yet consistently keeps time at +.3 seconds a day.

  • @reggievanness
    @reggievanness 2 года назад +2

    I've been rocking with my Citizen promaster soldier for the last three years and it's my go to Dailey wacth and Tuff as nails! 189.00 $ Ebay!!

  • @MikeMcClary
    @MikeMcClary 3 года назад +2

    Nice job, as always. I bought the Citizen last month (Sept. 2021) from Amazon for $220ish. Today I just happened to see Amazon’s selling it now for only $180. Dang. Oh well, I still love this watch.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +1

      It's a great watch! You really can't go wrong even at retail price your getting a watch worth every penny 😎👍

  • @simonthewatchguy6073
    @simonthewatchguy6073 3 года назад +1

    Sold my Tuna (I remember we purchased it right on launch and both did a review at a similar time). I have re-bought it and am waiting for it to arrive. Severe sellers remorse with this one. It's an incredible watch. Love the Citizen too.

  • @johnklonaris9136
    @johnklonaris9136 3 года назад +3

    I also own both i seem to reach for the Citizen more often.

  • @J69Nice
    @J69Nice 3 года назад +4

    Great video, you gotta do a video on Citizen Promaster dive watches comparison

  • @jasonwilson7674
    @jasonwilson7674 3 года назад +4

    Purchased the ecozilla 2 days ago, but this citizen I really do like and would be more of a practical daily watch, thanks for the review, definitely will look at buying it 👍

  • @jasonwilson7674
    @jasonwilson7674 Год назад +1

    Just come back to video as I recently purchased a citizen 'fugu' 44mm, which has re-ignited my love for this brand, absolutely stunning, so I thought I'd definitely buy this bn0151 for my lad who's getting into watches 😊

  • @mordziasty2
    @mordziasty2 3 года назад +10

    I have both watches, citizen in black version and seiko in white. I prefere citizen much more

  • @armandocardenas6094
    @armandocardenas6094 Год назад +2

    I own the ProMaster pepsi. I love it.

  • @oscarpatino3583
    @oscarpatino3583 3 года назад +13

    I got a Citizen BN0151, same as the one in this vid. Lume is killer, visible all night long. It is a vwry nice piece

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      Congratulations! They are awesome watches. The lume is 🔥🔥

  • @mrbacchus6127
    @mrbacchus6127 3 года назад +13

    What is it about Seiko divers that makes me want to own multiple? This doesn't happen with other brands or micros. I must be addicted to misaligned chapter rings lol

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +2

      Dude, I hear you!! Big time. I need to do my Seiko diver collection soon 🤣😁🙄😫

    • @M3LTUP
      @M3LTUP 3 года назад +2

      Because they are so cool. Makes you want to own them all.

    • @crvenom
      @crvenom 3 года назад

      Maybe you want to get a perfect one so you keep buying

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 3 года назад +5

    The Citizen is my pick! I prefer its hands...

  • @bhok1971
    @bhok1971 2 года назад +1

    Have my citizen on a 20mm Bond nato superstrap and it looks killer

  • @krazer808
    @krazer808 3 года назад +3

    Citizens my everyday/beater. They came out with new colors green and red. Hopefully they produce an orange or yellow, then I can replace my blue one.

    • @M3LTUP
      @M3LTUP 3 года назад +2

      I'm hoping they will release an orange one some day. I have a thing for orange watches.

  • @trulsdirio
    @trulsdirio 3 года назад +3

    Seeing the price difference where i live is 550 Seiko vs 175 Citizen I don't even have to think about which one I want.

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 2 года назад

    Picked up a blue for 145 on Amazon on black friday this year (2022). Even though I would have preferred the black, I saw that price drop on the blue and jumped on it.

  • @tancreddehauteville764
    @tancreddehauteville764 Год назад +1

    I love both!! And I HAVE both!!!!!!! 😄

  • @Long-nd8bq
    @Long-nd8bq Год назад +1

    Citizen is the better watch in my opinion. Better colors, better dial (applied indices vs painted lume indices), better size, better looking (to me), and it's 1/2 the price of the Seiko. Also, from the Seiko's I've owned and still own compared to the Citizen's I own, the Seiko's have had issues with bezel and dial alignment, quartz/solar ones don't always hit the indices with the second hand, and overall Citizen has better quality control. When you are paying $400-$1000 for a watch you don't want to have to fix a misaligned bezel, chapter ring, or dial. Seiko is banking on their brand name and not on their quality. For someone getting their first dive watch that is actually ISO 6425 certified I always recommend the Citizen BN0150/BN0151. Put the Citizen on a 20mm stainless bracelet and it really looks great.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  Год назад

      The Citizen is a great watch and the company has a great history. I still own both watches and really enjoy them. Cheers!!😎👍

  • @gregalonzo747
    @gregalonzo747 3 года назад +2

    Last year I picked up the Citizen Flieger Eco-Drive. I totally agree with you on about solar being the route to go. I have been considering a SNE so I hope you do a comparison of your Tunas. 👍

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      Thanks Greg for tuning in!! I really love my Solar watches in the collection. There are so many fun watches in the SNE lineup. I'll be posting a side by side of my Tuna collection in the near future!! Cheers buddy, and keep cranking out the great ancient history vids 😎👍🤙

    • @gregalonzo747
      @gregalonzo747 3 года назад

      @@OFD, BTW, my wife recently subscribed to your channel. She wanted to know if you have access to any of the Phoibos women's watches?

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      @@gregalonzo747 The Sea Nymph is a great watch. My wife owns the blue one. They're sold out completely on the website, but get on the mailing list for every color. They'll notify you when they are coming back in stock. Gotta jump when the email comes in, because they sell quickly. With the code OFD at checkout, the Sea Nymph is around $162, which is a great deal.

    • @gregalonzo747
      @gregalonzo747 3 года назад

      @@OFD, cool. Thanks much 👍

  • @M3LTUP
    @M3LTUP 3 года назад +2

    The 151 is hard to beat. It sorta reminds me a little of a Seiko Tuna. And 151 normally comes with a cool dive tank. Which is nice to display.

  • @jakepowers1833
    @jakepowers1833 3 года назад +1

    I am a long time diver since my days in the military. Now I own a dive school and I think one of the Seiko Solar watches would be fun to wear around the pool. I hope you do that comparison video.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +1

      Jake, I will definitely be comparing my Solar Tuna watches!! Thanks for tuning in, and your military service!😎👍🙏

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 года назад +1

      Hey thanks for your service, former police search and rescue diver and swift water rescue here!

    • @jakepowers1833
      @jakepowers1833 3 года назад

      @@brianbuchert6382, same to you, bro. Semper Fi 🇺🇲

  • @edwardcrater3591
    @edwardcrater3591 3 года назад +1

    Hi Aron, I am also looking forward to your your comparison of your four Prospex models.

  • @Dunderdume
    @Dunderdume 2 года назад +4

    The best citizen 👌

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад

      😁👍Happy New Year 🎉 🎊

  • @Watchheath
    @Watchheath 3 года назад +3

    Great video very informative I actually prefer the citizen that dial is 👌👌

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      The dial on the Citizen is very nice!! Cheers, and thank you Heath!!😁👍🙏

  • @Graymanone
    @Graymanone 5 месяцев назад

    In the last month I purchased the Citizen Prodiver eco in black and the Citizen Prodiver Marine Coke. Neither came with the dive chart on the band.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  5 месяцев назад

      🤔

  • @jhdkoopman2
    @jhdkoopman2 3 года назад +1

    Could you post a link to the pics of the Citizen with the caseback off please? I've had a hard time finding pics of that watch's movement while still inside the watch. Thanks.

  • @npc-sd7hk
    @npc-sd7hk 3 года назад +5

    Citizen!!

  • @richardbosh4522
    @richardbosh4522 3 года назад

    Excellent review
    Question WatchAholics
    Are they in the same price range?

  • @omegaknight01
    @omegaknight01 3 года назад +2

    I have both!!!👍👍👍

  • @johncover9757
    @johncover9757 2 года назад +4

    Paid $209 for the Citizen yesterday from Amazon 02/03/2022

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад +2

      It's worth every penny 😎👍Enjoy the watch!!

    • @johncover9757
      @johncover9757 2 года назад +1

      @@OFD great to hear 👍 Thank you

  • @stephenward3468
    @stephenward3468 Год назад

    I have both of these watches.The second hand hits the markers every time.

  • @armandomarcialalonzo1716
    @armandomarcialalonzo1716 3 года назад +2

    I love the design but i would like a smaller one, 40mm would be perfect

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +1

      I agree. It would definitely open up the market for new buyers!! Cheers 😁👍

  • @dude28405
    @dude28405 3 года назад +1

    With a little bit of hunting you can pick that citizen up pretty reasonable

  • @sangamonwatches9687
    @sangamonwatches9687 3 года назад +1

    Both great watches!

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      Definitely!! Great to hear from you. You guys make very nice watches!! I've had the pleasure to review here 😁👍

  • @stefpix
    @stefpix Год назад

    I have the Citizen BN151, after I lost the black BN150. I like the orange outline on the minute hand. It looks much better with an orange strap. Not a fan of the stock one. The Seiko tuna has a more attractive bezel insert font, which is the thing I like less in Citizen. I put a screen protector on the BN151, as it comes with mineral crystal.
    I bought an Addiesdive (like Steeldive) Seiko tuna homage with a black sterile dial. It looks great and has sapphire crystal (domed, I wish it was flat).
    The issue with the Seiko solar tuna is that the shroud is some kind of plastic, I wish it was steel. Not a fan of gold accents. Also, Seiko at that price could offer sapphire crystal, and use their own quartz movement VH31, which has a sweeping second hand (4 ticks per second), which is used on some Chinese watches for around $100. It would make it more appealing.
    Probably I will wait on some deal for the Seiko solar SNE589.
    Years ago I sold the Citizen BN000 solar which is slightly smaller, and probably the best looking toolish Citizen solar.

  • @grahamekellermeier8280
    @grahamekellermeier8280 Год назад

    Have Citizen and Seiko dive watch es both brands are good.

  • @vercingetorix444
    @vercingetorix444 Год назад +1

    Very helpful thanks from Tootenfarten Manor

    • @OFD
      @OFD  Год назад

      😆🤣let the winds flow through the valley!

  • @alexm2404
    @alexm2404 3 года назад

    had two citizen bn150 before, sold them. now I bought another one and I hope this will not be sold... I like them but because they are quartz, they are the first to be sold from my collection.

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 Год назад +2

    Good video. Citizen wins

  • @sufyanpatel9706
    @sufyanpatel9706 3 года назад +3

    What's the reason people buy a divers watch if they are not a diver like me? btw I've just bought one lol

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +4

      Basically because they look cool, are extremely legible, are built tough, and they have impressive lume. But mainly because we are watch geeks 🤓👍

    • @jblackjack
      @jblackjack 3 года назад +2

      I dive too…muff dive 🤣

    • @jayskywalker5049
      @jayskywalker5049 3 года назад +3

      DIVE????? I DONT EVEN SWIM BUT I GOT THAT CITIZEN ECO-DRIVE PROMASTER IN CASE I JUMP IN THE KIDDIE POOL

    • @NexDim.
      @NexDim. 2 года назад

      Same reason people buy 4x4’s that never leave the pavement. Like the looks and they’re more durable.

  • @Dododaler
    @Dododaler 6 месяцев назад +1

    citizen for me , thx

  • @Mattk3ng266
    @Mattk3ng266 Год назад

    Ha funny, I have both! They are both great watches but the bn0151 strap on mine was very stiff until I soaked it and the sne498 has 22mm lugs which I prefer 20mm but other than that no issues.

  • @FrozenThunder
    @FrozenThunder 3 года назад

    Plz reply, which lume lasts more??

    • @gigagdragoon2345
      @gigagdragoon2345 3 года назад +1

      Citizen, by far. See this video starting at 09:50 for comparison:
      m.ruclips.net/video/K3Y5whjfJdA/видео.html

  • @AlphanPeter
    @AlphanPeter 2 года назад

    is the calendar at 4 oclock the date automatic or do i have to adjust it manually ?

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад

      Once the watch is set it will set daily. You'll have to adjust for shorter months.

  • @michaelwertz6689
    @michaelwertz6689 3 года назад

    Good stuff!

  • @breaktime3269
    @breaktime3269 3 года назад

    nice watches, nice review

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      Thank you!!

  • @johnpratt8652
    @johnpratt8652 Год назад

    Just bought the kermit 🐸

    • @OFD
      @OFD  Год назад

      Nice!! Congrats 👏

  • @goodrich06
    @goodrich06 2 года назад

    Nice!

  • @mrbacchus6127
    @mrbacchus6127 3 года назад +2

    But the seconds hands aren't synced! Gasp

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад

      🤣🤣 I know!! Funny how close they actually were given I haven't adjusted either of them for weeks! Cheers buddy 😎👍👊

  • @glennbusby2092
    @glennbusby2092 2 года назад +5

    No one has mentioned the glaringly obvious on these 2 watches. The Seiko has no crown guards, whereas the Citizen has them. You need crown guards for an outdoor/dive watch. The Seiko looks are rubbish compared to the Citizen as well.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад

      As is standard on all Seiko Prospex Tuna line, the Stainless Steel, or in this case polymer case shroud extends around the crown protecting it actually more that crown guards. The shroud protects it from downward impacts as well, which standard crown guards do not. Cheers 😎 👍

  • @jefferyneu3915
    @jefferyneu3915 3 года назад +1

    I would like the CItizen more if all the lume was the green used in the pip.

  • @dude28405
    @dude28405 3 года назад +2

    I have the citizen I like it I still rock it on that blue strap

    • @OFD
      @OFD  3 года назад +1

      It looks good on the factory strap. I've left mine on it too! 😎👍

    • @gusthesailor4885
      @gusthesailor4885 3 года назад +1

      I have this one also from months (bracelet) and it's a fantastic watch

    • @dude28405
      @dude28405 3 года назад

      @@gusthesailor4885 I agree I don't know why citizen doesn't get the love they deserve

    • @roadgent7921
      @roadgent7921 3 года назад

      @@dude28405 Yes regarding Citizens love deficit, I think it's possibly down to -
      1) marketing and product placement (or lack of it). Think of Seiko through the years and how many films (Bond, Arnie etc) and other public arenas (Olympics) they have appeared in.
      2) Also on a more basic level and this is only my opinion: the name "Citizen" - isn't a Japanese name, doesn't sound as exotic as "Seiko". If a western consumer, these days anyway, is buying something Japanese or German or English the product name is, I think, important in taking advantage of the subconscious, subliminal and cultural aspects of the customer's buying triggers.
      I'm sure there are other criteria like range clarity, features and design that have an effect. However in my experience and trying to be as objective as possible, comparing Citizen and Seiko just on engineering quality, robustness/ reliabilty, performance, price - Citizen wins. *What do others think?*

    • @tyrus0872
      @tyrus0872 3 года назад +1

      @@roadgent7921 I think your right if I approach this as outsider since I don't own neither of these brands, however the name Citizen has always had a distinction of class when it's presented, it looks well in print and has carried itself well through the years because of it's reputation. (just a feel) I receive this watch tomorrow by mail only to the demise of my similar 15+ year Elgin blue auto diver that isn't keeping time as it use too. I have many, many time piece's from mantle clocks, pocket watches and bedside alarms as well a top draw wrist watches. What draws me in to a Citizen watch is their unique sensibility of combining all the aesthetics and presenting them as far as this watch is concerned, is a sharp as well as rugged looking instrument. I look forward to not replacing a battery, I believe I stayed on the automatic watch train long enough and arrived far too late for solar...oh well.

  • @harkonen1000000
    @harkonen1000000 11 месяцев назад +1

    You've done the specs part terribly. SNE498 has 44 mm lug-to-lug, for starters.

    • @OFD
      @OFD  11 месяцев назад

      Ohhhh noooooo.🤷‍♂️

  • @dbc3161
    @dbc3161 3 года назад +2

    It’s not even close. Seiko for the win.

  • @georgefotiadis3787
    @georgefotiadis3787 Год назад +1

    Dont get me wrong,i love the history, design of the citizen promaster but something doesn't do it for me,so based on that my choice is the tuna

  • @vercingetorix444
    @vercingetorix444 Год назад

    POOBUS

  • @sheepdog-kp9hb
    @sheepdog-kp9hb 4 месяца назад

    Buy automatic because its masculine

  • @klbmt8551
    @klbmt8551 3 года назад

    own seiko in my opinion is more professional

  • @GR-nj3cq
    @GR-nj3cq Год назад +1

    Seiko tuna is far much better watch in confront of citizen

  • @jfc8681
    @jfc8681 2 года назад

    Hey !!!
    I am looking for a great sturdy high quality rubber strap replacement for the Citizen pro master any brand and model you would recommend ?

    • @OFD
      @OFD  2 года назад

      amzn.to/3GJmIZ9
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      I've used these Barton straps before on a couple of my Citizen Promaster divers. Cheers 😎 👍

    • @richsteidl5699
      @richsteidl5699 2 года назад

      Checkout Helm Rubber Straps!