How I place it is that each and every save is a different planet within a small section of the Rimworld There are other sections of Rimworlds on other edges of human civilisation that is vastly different from what we know (in a way that makes all modded content also canon)
@@tennoki I mean you kind of can make it like that with save our ship mod and then not generate all other bases but pick and choose which ones you want to see on that rimworld, same with biome mods.
Dirtmoles, Wasters, and Yttakins and Impids were probably the first Xenohumans, adapted for different colonization challenges (underground, toxic, cold, hot). Highmates and Hussars, and possibly Genies, were created much later by groups like the Empire for soldiers, pleasure slaves and engineers. Pigskins were an accident, and Neanderthals were intentionally resurrected. Sanguophages, as we know, were Archotech creations.
Best and worst of humanity in Rimworld so well shown in the timeline. Reaching technological peaks and creating utopias while also destroying the home planet and entire empires
I honestly think this is the best utopia that's actually better than "all united under 1", this kind of utopia actually opens up to many freedom and culture, rules and beliefs, instead of classic star trek humanity united. Sure there are some drawbacks, but that's what makes us human.
I never really thought about the starting scenarios all happening at the same time on the same planet. It's such a cool idea, and I love the theoretical consequences of it.
If i remember correctly, one of the scenarios or something like that, mentions a cryptosleep enthusiast who barely got to make his cryptosleep because the tech still didnt exist or something like that, and so, it was an older date than 2100, althought i may be wrong
Hey you should take a look at the maximun chronological age a pawn can have, its around the 3k years range while also taking a look at the maximun age mechanoids can spawn with.
There is the additional wrinkle that rim years are not the same as "normal" years, despite the days still being 24 hours on this planet. This could potentially imply that the "5500" start date is actually 5500 "local time", potentially being the number of rimyears since the planet was colonized. Most likely it is a game play abstraction, but nevertheless it is a distinct possibility.
It would be cool if in each new game a player starts a special settlement/faction is spawned for each of the default starts the player does not choose. It would be extra cool if each changed as the game years passed.
I suspect the rise of the archotechs coincides with the fall of Earth. Archotechs are specifically described as orders of magnitude more intelligent than humans, and the established power structures among humanity would react violently to such an emergent superintelligence. By that point humanity had already mastered genetic engineering to the point of creating various genetic castes, which would then become the Yttarkin and so forth. It's entirely possible that humanity had mechanoids already integrated into the Earth society, allowing Earth to be more of a throneworld than an active world. This means that the violent reaction of the powers that be could easily be contained to that singular world, rather than affecting the human diaspora. It's entirely possible that mechanoid worlds are a result of the equivalent of a von Nuemann probe with vague orders. Orders like "Optimise the environment" rather than "Optimise the environment for human life" could easily lead to them terraforming a world into something completely hostile to humanity. Humanity would respond by developing something to destroy that, which is where the insectoids come in. Humans using their mastery over genetic engineering to forge a weapon not even they can control, in the hope of stopping something they unleashed via ignorance. Getting back to my original point. I think the fall of Earth coincides either with the first Archotech or the beginning of the mechanoid wars as the transcendent AI's reaction to the violence displayed by humanity upon Earth. They saw humanity as a hazard to even themselves, and if they were programmed to protect humanity at all costs, the only way to protect us from ourselves is to put us either in storage or the ground. We often see mechanoids in ancient dangers with cryptosleep caskets, so it's possible that is a remnant of the era when the mechanoids/archotech thought we could be best saved via containment. It's possible they are even intended to serve as a sort of seed bank for the archotech once humanity has all been "saved" from itself. Attempting to train us to be less violent towards the unknown.
Glad you like them! Although the well is starting to run dry in terms of Rimworld, I think I've pretty much talked and discussed about (almost) everything there is.
Another new upload! Glad your making new rimworld videos. Hope your internet provider doesn't give you anymore trouble, your content is fantastic. I like to just put it on and relax.
I barely had trouble with it nowadays. Every now and then, maybe once or twice a month the internet will vanish for a few hours, but otherwise it's all good
1:42 i don't remember the exact amount but i had a pawn who's chronological age was around 2900 years old. She was only 27 tho. She was also a mechanitor
Idk if they are mentioned outside of descriptive text for certain tomes, but I'd love to know more about the people who supposedly sealed Horax away in the void. I've already done a playthrough of a tribe turned into Horax followers by their accidental discovery of the monolith, but I'd like to potentially do another of an order of people who work to stave off Horax's influence, possibly as descendants or successors to the initial people who sealed him. Either way, if there is anything substantial about them, I think it'd make for an interesting topic. Might also explain why Horax is described as having "inhuman rage" in some passages, as he's possibly mad at humanity, or at least some faction of humanity, for locking him away in the first place.
Just cause current humans use persona cores doesn’t mean they had them when they started. They probably locked a few prisoners in a control room forced them to keep the ship on course until they arrived or died of old age. Just cause cars use gasoline now doesn’t mean they did so in 1880s
I don't think that humanity peaked it's progress in 2100. In the game we only get a glimpse at glitterworld tech. And the ship we can build always looked quite bare-bones to me. I think that max tech we get in the game is peak for Rimworlds only. The best you can figure out with a few not-so-bad scientists and build with scrap you can get here and there. Earth in game must not only be Coreworld but a Glitterwolrd also at that time. And I'd really like to believe that humanity closer to the Core is much more technologically advanced than it is on the Rim.
Every pawn has age, biological (if applicable) and chronological. That can reveal the latest year for mechanoids to appear, tribals never go to cryptosleep and likely FTL being rather slow.
Rimworld years are only 60 days unlike Earth years of 365.25 days, and other worlds likely have their own year lengths, so it's possible each mention of years are based on a non-Earth year.
I think if FTL had a fixed speed. It could mean that the rim starts at the tech level humanity was at when they started exploring deeper into space. It's the rim, the edge of where humanity has expanded thus far. Hence, it creates a time dilation effect where, from the perspective of the rim, humanity never advanced beyond a set point.
And it's rather slow as cryptosleep is so prevalent and chronological age of pawns can be a few thousand years. We can also look for chronoage brackets in different factions, as I remember for tribes it's always equal to biological for example. That also reveals oldest functioning mechanoids cementing the latest time for their invention.
Imagine if the scenario characters meet up in lore Crashlanded: "We manage to escape and build small community" Lost Tribe: "What in the gods world have you brought in this beauty planet" Naked Brutality: "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?" The Rich Explorer: "What in the sigma yeeyee-aah NPC skibidi toilet doing in my swamp" The Mechanitor: "The moment i knew the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me" The Sanguophage: "ゴゴゴI Reject Humanityゴゴゴ" The Anomaly: "She's the key! Are we too soon? Sht, we're too soon. You were right about it, you always been right about it. Fear it. Find us, You have to find us!!!" Randy wheezing in the corner
i LOVE that your entire reason for "archotechs don't form after this point" is "this guy was transformed by a SINGULAR ARCHOTECH in this time frame". dude. just because he was transformed by a certain archotech does NOT mean that no new archotechs have formed since. that is SUCH bad faith arguing.
I did not say that new Archotechs did not form. I said that's the latest at which Archotechs could have formed. It meant that, Archotechs began appearing at some point, and there was a point where the FIRST archotech appeared, and it couldn't be after the date at which Sanguophages appeared, as they are archotech creations.
@@thenightarchives4148 I am not a native speaker, but I believe that phrasing it as: "the latest at which Archotechs could've started to form", - would create less confusion.
Archotechs are assumed to have human origins but that's not necessarily true. Especially since an explorer attempted to dominate one, that implies he found it and Archotechs were already out in the universe.
Some of the sources you use are made up and you are using them. I'd tell you on discord but I can no longer contact you due to being banned. As an advanced rimworld player it is almost hurtful to the game that you're spreading false information
Same, dude. Ive been playing rimworld for years and every video this guy makes that pops up in my recommended I'm like "where is this guy getting this from, is this supposed to be a custom-made roleplay in rimworld?"
@@thecourier9290 I've quoted all of my sources multiple times. If you need further clearance on any of them, you can feel free to ask which part you are not sure about and I'll gladly give you the source and clarify where they are taken from but I assure they are all 100% canon :) Rimworld is not straightforward in its storyteller and most of its lore its hidden within flavor texts of items, enemies or events, along with documents released by the creator of the game in order to expand on the universe in-game, but I can assure you that all of the content presented is most certainly canonical. If you don't feel like doing your own research, just ask me and I'll provide you what you need :)
You running through the different scenarios like they all happen on the same planet would make for a killer Rimworld TV show plot
@@miniraptor3211 It would be fun if when you select a scenario, it allows for you to meet the guys from the other scenarios
Extra fun if you got some of vanilla expanded starts going on too.
@@Life_Universe_Everything tbf if you played with every single VFE mod, you could populate the entire planet with their colonies
How I place it is that each and every save is a different planet within a small section of the Rimworld
There are other sections of Rimworlds on other edges of human civilisation that is vastly different from what we know (in a way that makes all modded content also canon)
@@tennoki I mean you kind of can make it like that with save our ship mod and then not generate all other bases but pick and choose which ones you want to see on that rimworld, same with biome mods.
"First leaving their planet" could be as simple as colonising Mars at that date. It does not require JT drives and AI.
My thoughts exactly, there's no telling what tech was used or how their ships would have looked and functioned.
Dirtmoles, Wasters, and Yttakins and Impids were probably the first Xenohumans, adapted for different colonization challenges (underground, toxic, cold, hot). Highmates and Hussars, and possibly Genies, were created much later by groups like the Empire for soldiers, pleasure slaves and engineers. Pigskins were an accident, and Neanderthals were intentionally resurrected. Sanguophages, as we know, were Archotech creations.
As if we can't be racist enough, we got racism 2
Aren't Pigskins supposed to be organ farms?
@@dlich6966 yeah. But they weren't supposed to become sapient. Hence, an accident.
@@ordinaryfellow9093 there's a post in the subreddit where we invent slurs for the different xenotypes.
@@Penguinmanereikel holy, what's the name? I want to check it out, this would make my rimworld roleplay even better!
AI tech might not have evolved past persona AI level, but that doesn't mean Earth was at glitterworld-level. Technology doesn't all evolve together.
Best and worst of humanity in Rimworld so well shown in the timeline. Reaching technological peaks and creating utopias while also destroying the home planet and entire empires
DarkBuddhist? Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time
I honestly think this is the best utopia that's actually better than "all united under 1", this kind of utopia actually opens up to many freedom and culture, rules and beliefs, instead of classic star trek humanity united. Sure there are some drawbacks, but that's what makes us human.
Yup. Kind of amusing isn't it? The cycle of progress and then regress to war seems to repeat every set amount of years.
I think the first ships to leave Earth would be large Generation ships, that would travel out as a sort of life- inshurance for Humanity.
Imagine if it's just Warhammer 40k stuff, brain in jar controlling the ship
It's possible both Megasloths and Neanderthals were brought back earlier, but only remained on Earth for obvious reasons until the 2100s-2200s
I never really thought about the starting scenarios all happening at the same time on the same planet. It's such a cool idea, and I love the theoretical consequences of it.
If i remember correctly, one of the scenarios or something like that, mentions a cryptosleep enthusiast who barely got to make his cryptosleep because the tech still didnt exist or something like that, and so, it was an older date than 2100, althought i may be wrong
Hey you should take a look at the maximun chronological age a pawn can have, its around the 3k years range while also taking a look at the maximun age mechanoids can spawn with.
you should do lore on the Ancient faction/pawns, I always thought they were the early one that left Earth.
There is the additional wrinkle that rim years are not the same as "normal" years, despite the days still being 24 hours on this planet.
This could potentially imply that the "5500" start date is actually 5500 "local time", potentially being the number of rimyears since the planet was colonized.
Most likely it is a game play abstraction, but nevertheless it is a distinct possibility.
It would be cool if in each new game a player starts a special settlement/faction is spawned for each of the default starts the player does not choose. It would be extra cool if each changed as the game years passed.
I suspect the rise of the archotechs coincides with the fall of Earth. Archotechs are specifically described as orders of magnitude more intelligent than humans, and the established power structures among humanity would react violently to such an emergent superintelligence. By that point humanity had already mastered genetic engineering to the point of creating various genetic castes, which would then become the Yttarkin and so forth. It's entirely possible that humanity had mechanoids already integrated into the Earth society, allowing Earth to be more of a throneworld than an active world. This means that the violent reaction of the powers that be could easily be contained to that singular world, rather than affecting the human diaspora.
It's entirely possible that mechanoid worlds are a result of the equivalent of a von Nuemann probe with vague orders. Orders like "Optimise the environment" rather than "Optimise the environment for human life" could easily lead to them terraforming a world into something completely hostile to humanity. Humanity would respond by developing something to destroy that, which is where the insectoids come in. Humans using their mastery over genetic engineering to forge a weapon not even they can control, in the hope of stopping something they unleashed via ignorance.
Getting back to my original point. I think the fall of Earth coincides either with the first Archotech or the beginning of the mechanoid wars as the transcendent AI's reaction to the violence displayed by humanity upon Earth. They saw humanity as a hazard to even themselves, and if they were programmed to protect humanity at all costs, the only way to protect us from ourselves is to put us either in storage or the ground. We often see mechanoids in ancient dangers with cryptosleep caskets, so it's possible that is a remnant of the era when the mechanoids/archotech thought we could be best saved via containment. It's possible they are even intended to serve as a sort of seed bank for the archotech once humanity has all been "saved" from itself. Attempting to train us to be less violent towards the unknown.
Its possible! Although Rimworld loves to leave things up for interpretation, so we won't know for sure but that's a good theory!
Putting the Rimworld lore puzzle together is the most fun part of this game. Keep up the great videos, love hearing you speak about all the theories!
Glad you like them! Although the well is starting to run dry in terms of Rimworld, I think I've pretty much talked and discussed about (almost) everything there is.
@@thenightarchives4148 time for conspiracy theorimes
Imagine if a thousand/thousands of years was a metaphor for a long time😅
Entirely possible, but if we go by that assumption, anything ever could be a metaphor and then it'd be REALLY hard to compile more lore :')
Another new upload! Glad your making new rimworld videos. Hope your internet provider doesn't give you anymore trouble, your content is fantastic. I like to just put it on and relax.
I barely had trouble with it nowadays. Every now and then, maybe once or twice a month the internet will vanish for a few hours, but otherwise it's all good
I just now realised how hard keeping track of history is going to be in the future if we ever get off of earth
Things start to break down once you look at the chronological age of some pawns.
Also we do know that Zartza is a deathworld (or at least is now) - its one of the places used for random generation of backstories
1:42 i don't remember the exact amount but i had a pawn who's chronological age was around 2900 years old. She was only 27 tho. She was also a mechanitor
Any day Mr. Archives posts are a good day
Idk if they are mentioned outside of descriptive text for certain tomes, but I'd love to know more about the people who supposedly sealed Horax away in the void. I've already done a playthrough of a tribe turned into Horax followers by their accidental discovery of the monolith, but I'd like to potentially do another of an order of people who work to stave off Horax's influence, possibly as descendants or successors to the initial people who sealed him. Either way, if there is anything substantial about them, I think it'd make for an interesting topic. Might also explain why Horax is described as having "inhuman rage" in some passages, as he's possibly mad at humanity, or at least some faction of humanity, for locking him away in the first place.
@@jaydenw9803 I have a video where I talk about that, you can check it out on the channel and then let me know what you think :)
Babe wake up Night archives posted a rimworld lore video
Just cause current humans use persona cores doesn’t mean they had them when they started. They probably locked a few prisoners in a control room forced them to keep the ship on course until they arrived or died of old age. Just cause cars use gasoline now doesn’t mean they did so in 1880s
That was also my point. It was entirely possible that they made use of people in shifts as well, but that's entirely speculative.
omg i have kyle harris as one of my starter pawns rn
Nice!!
Hello, love your videos❤
Happy to hear that :)
I don't think that humanity peaked it's progress in 2100. In the game we only get a glimpse at glitterworld tech. And the ship we can build always looked quite bare-bones to me. I think that max tech we get in the game is peak for Rimworlds only. The best you can figure out with a few not-so-bad scientists and build with scrap you can get here and there.
Earth in game must not only be Coreworld but a Glitterwolrd also at that time. And I'd really like to believe that humanity closer to the Core is much more technologically advanced than it is on the Rim.
Every pawn has age, biological (if applicable) and chronological. That can reveal the latest year for mechanoids to appear, tribals never go to cryptosleep and likely FTL being rather slow.
Rimworld years are only 60 days unlike Earth years of 365.25 days, and other worlds likely have their own year lengths, so it's possible each mention of years are based on a non-Earth year.
Colonists still age as if they were normal years, though, which does put a wrinkle in this idea.
@McCbobbish years are only 60 could be justify as game simplification. Imagine you need to wair for potato atleast 1 month before able to eat it.
Hey I got stone jaw he really shod learn the word condom
I think if FTL had a fixed speed. It could mean that the rim starts at the tech level humanity was at when they started exploring deeper into space.
It's the rim, the edge of where humanity has expanded thus far. Hence, it creates a time dilation effect where, from the perspective of the rim, humanity never advanced beyond a set point.
And it's rather slow as cryptosleep is so prevalent and chronological age of pawns can be a few thousand years. We can also look for chronoage brackets in different factions, as I remember for tribes it's always equal to biological for example. That also reveals oldest functioning mechanoids cementing the latest time for their invention.
Wait... EARTH BECAME A RUINWORLD?
Earth go boom
Rip Earth :(
Imagine if the scenario characters meet up in lore
Crashlanded: "We manage to escape and build small community"
Lost Tribe: "What in the gods world have you brought in this beauty planet"
Naked Brutality: "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?"
The Rich Explorer: "What in the sigma yeeyee-aah NPC skibidi toilet doing in my swamp"
The Mechanitor: "The moment i knew the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"
The Sanguophage: "ゴゴゴI Reject Humanityゴゴゴ"
The Anomaly: "She's the key! Are we too soon? Sht, we're too soon. You were right about it, you always been right about it. Fear it. Find us, You have to find us!!!"
Randy wheezing in the corner
Lmao i need a longer version
Once I turned my mechanitor into 99% metal by giving him cybernetic and constantly feeding him metal serum
I'm the one that destroyed Earth.
And I'll do it again.
You were meant to build worlds! Not destroy them!
@@delta9915 sorry. The Afterworld was getting too crowded so the boss (voices in my head) told me to get rid of the reason why! >:D
Stream when?
I have definitely annihilated one of those unique pawns before without realizing it
You most likely harvested them yeah
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Babe, wake up, Mr. Archives has dropped another one!
i LOVE that your entire reason for "archotechs don't form after this point" is "this guy was transformed by a SINGULAR ARCHOTECH in this time frame". dude. just because he was transformed by a certain archotech does NOT mean that no new archotechs have formed since. that is SUCH bad faith arguing.
I did not say that new Archotechs did not form. I said that's the latest at which Archotechs could have formed. It meant that, Archotechs began appearing at some point, and there was a point where the FIRST archotech appeared, and it couldn't be after the date at which Sanguophages appeared, as they are archotech creations.
@@thenightarchives4148 I am not a native speaker, but I believe that phrasing it as: "the latest at which Archotechs could've started to form", - would create less confusion.
@@thenightarchives4148 ah, i see. fair enough, i misunderstood what you meant.
Archotechs are assumed to have human origins but that's not necessarily true. Especially since an explorer attempted to dominate one, that implies he found it and Archotechs were already out in the universe.
Some of the sources you use are made up and you are using them. I'd tell you on discord but I can no longer contact you due to being banned. As an advanced rimworld player it is almost hurtful to the game that you're spreading false information
Which sources are made up?
Same, dude. Ive been playing rimworld for years and every video this guy makes that pops up in my recommended I'm like "where is this guy getting this from, is this supposed to be a custom-made roleplay in rimworld?"
@@thecourier9290 I've quoted all of my sources multiple times. If you need further clearance on any of them, you can feel free to ask which part you are not sure about and I'll gladly give you the source and clarify where they are taken from but I assure they are all 100% canon :) Rimworld is not straightforward in its storyteller and most of its lore its hidden within flavor texts of items, enemies or events, along with documents released by the creator of the game in order to expand on the universe in-game, but I can assure you that all of the content presented is most certainly canonical. If you don't feel like doing your own research, just ask me and I'll provide you what you need :)