You are all missing the point. Over 100 years ago our government desecrated this natural sanctuary, and it is our responsible now to honor John Muir and Gods very creation by restoring it to its formal natural beauty and rid it of the marring done to the valley by human intervention, no man made lake looks more beautiful than the original valley.
My best idea to bring water for the San Francisco Area and bring back the valley. Is to build and install Desalination Plants, along the States Coastline and Sacramento River.
My best idea to bring water for the San Francisco Area and bring back the valley. Is to build and install Desalination Plants, along the States Coastline and Sacramento River.
Hetch hetchy holds 360,360 acre-feet (O.432 km cubed) of water. While Don Pedro down river is able to hold 2,003,000 acre-feet (2.5 km cubed) of water. For Don Pedro to support Hetch Hetchy's water (it doesn't need) the dam will need to be raised only 20 feet. We have better systems on the same river down stream.
I visit Hetch Hetchy often (I live in Merced). It is one of the most peaceful spots in Yosemite. Quiet, beautiful, serene. No power boats on this lake! Just look at the front of the lake to see how it would look drained.
Yes the man made lake that tragically destroyed the beautiful valley that was there since creation. You have no idea how truly peaceful it was, you have seen a marred version of the once prestige valley
Does anyone aware of the perpetual CA drought think this is a good idea? CA needs sufficient water storage before closing down one of it's largest supplies. Talk about the "cart before the horse."
It’s obvious you have never hiked nor backpacked Yosemite… until you do, you’ll never understand. We are here a short time on earth and have injured an area that should have never been touched. A valley that would stand beyond centuries in comparison to our short lived lives.
This doesnt tell us that 1, The hetch hetchy valley is largely inaccessible by automobile or conventional means, and 2, demolition of the dam is an enormous undertaking requiring roads to be built, with trucks and heavy equipment runnimg round the clock for years. This a pipe dream of symbolic stupidity. If we want to leave Yosemite in ita most pristine state, leave the dam alone. Doing so does no ecological harm.
Well yes of course Hetch Hetchy valley is inaccessible, its underwater. As for roads to Hetch Hetchy, its about as accessible as Yosemite it's self. SF was responsible for creating a transportation system for the park, but the city did the minimum to hoard and limit accessibility to the reservoir.
@@Davidpirate1 as I understand it no roads were ever built that would lead to access the hetch hetchy valley. Thus providing the same access that exists today for yosemite valley would require great environmental damage. The fact that SF built roads in past doesnt change that. Two wrongs dont make right nor does trying to punish SF for their actions a century ago reverse any environmental damage. Other dams are being built in California and the fact is humans only reside on 6 percent of the land in this state. There are plenty of pristine undevrloped areas in the sierra high country for people of future generations to get blistered feet hiking to just to freeze or fall off granite cliffs to their deaths. I grew up near Twain Harte in Tuolumne county where if we missed the bus to school we had to climb a huge granite mountain where one slip could see you fall hundreds of feet to your death. If youve seen one mountain you can live the rest of your life without seeing its twin or cousin, but you cant live without fresh water and neither can the people of san francisco. The officials who engineered hetch hetchy and the downstream aqueducts did so with the intention of providing vital resources to the citizens they governed. Fresh water supplies increase living standards, reduce disease and infant mortality. Issues that still plague places like Africa today. There are few more noble causes to pursue.
@@chakatania that was removed because of wildlife concerns. (Fish spawning) There are no similar issues here. Its never gonna happen, get over it already.
@@Davidpirate1Good luck trying to build roads into that valley if the dam is ever removed. Enviros will file lawsuits to make it inaccessible to the average person.
You are all missing the point. Over 100 years ago our government desecrated this natural sanctuary, and it is our responsible now to honor John Muir and Gods very creation by restoring it to its formal natural beauty and rid it of the marring done to the valley by human intervention, no man made lake looks more beautiful than the original valley.
My best idea to bring water for the San Francisco Area and bring back the valley. Is to build and install Desalination Plants, along the States Coastline and Sacramento River.
Amen.
My best idea to bring water for the San Francisco Area and bring back the valley. Is to build and install Desalination Plants, along the States Coastline and Sacramento River.
Nuclear fusion could do it. Replace all the reservoirs with unlimited desalination. They should sell surplus water to farmers in the mean time.
Restore Hetch Hetchy!
The damn is a wrong which must be righted. Yes it's hard, will take a long time, etc. But it has to go.
Klamath dam has been removed…we can do that also. Weak , lazy people refuse to step up to the plate.
It looks beautiful as a reservoir.
"Without losing a drop of water." Does anyone trust these "experts"?
Hetch hetchy holds 360,360 acre-feet (O.432 km cubed) of water.
While Don Pedro down river is able to hold 2,003,000 acre-feet (2.5 km cubed) of water. For Don Pedro to support Hetch Hetchy's water (it doesn't need) the dam will need to be raised only 20 feet. We have better systems on the same river down stream.
Drinking waste waster with fecal matter filtered out is not a good selling point.
We can pipe water from states that have too much in major storms. Govt is lazy. Also desalination.
The water from Hetch Hetchy is extremely high quality. Some want to replace it with treated sewer water?
the same who want you to eat only buts. Edit bugs but butts to
LA does it. Elitism is willing to put themselves first.
Yes. Why do you think you have a god given right to destroy natural beauty?
There are far better uses of money than this, and we already have Yosemite alley which is beautiful, and Hetch Hetchy is arguably more beautiful.
Doesn't Hetch Hetchy power all the light rail in SF ? In fact it does. Look at all the pollution it spares.
That's not how electricity works.
@@Davidpirate1 Grid...but it does provide pollution free electricity.
Solar power. SF politicians are supposed to be pro-conservationist. Makes you wonder
I visit Hetch Hetchy often (I live in Merced). It is one of the most peaceful spots in Yosemite. Quiet, beautiful, serene. No power boats on this lake! Just look at the front of the lake to see how it would look drained.
Yes the man made lake that tragically destroyed the beautiful valley that was there since creation. You have no idea how truly peaceful it was, you have seen a marred version of the once prestige valley
You need to see about how it looked before the dam. It would take forever to get back. But we need to restore it
Yosemite’s fraternal twin. ❤❤❤
Does anyone aware of the perpetual CA drought think this is a good idea? CA needs sufficient water storage before closing down one of it's largest supplies. Talk about the "cart before the horse."
This idea is idiotic. Every single reservoir matters, restoring makes no revenue, waste of money.
It’s obvious you have never hiked nor backpacked Yosemite… until you do, you’ll never understand.
We are here a short time on earth and have injured an area that should have never been touched.
A valley that would stand beyond centuries in comparison to our short lived lives.
This doesnt tell us that 1,
The hetch hetchy valley is largely inaccessible by automobile or conventional means, and 2, demolition of the dam is an enormous undertaking requiring roads to be built, with trucks and heavy equipment runnimg round the clock for years.
This a pipe dream of symbolic stupidity. If we want to leave Yosemite in ita most pristine state, leave the dam alone. Doing so does no ecological harm.
Well yes of course Hetch Hetchy valley is inaccessible, its underwater.
As for roads to Hetch Hetchy, its about as accessible as Yosemite it's self. SF was responsible for creating a transportation system for the park, but the city did the minimum to hoard and limit accessibility to the reservoir.
@@Davidpirate1 as I understand it no roads were ever built that would lead to access the hetch hetchy valley. Thus providing the same access that exists today for yosemite valley would require great environmental damage. The fact that SF built roads in past doesnt change that. Two wrongs dont make right nor does trying to punish SF for their actions a century ago reverse any environmental damage. Other dams are being built in California and the fact is humans only reside on 6 percent of the land in this state. There are plenty of pristine undevrloped areas in the sierra high country for people of future generations to get blistered feet hiking to just to freeze or fall off granite cliffs to their deaths. I grew up near Twain Harte in Tuolumne county where if we missed the bus to school we had to climb a huge granite mountain where one slip could see you fall hundreds of feet to your death.
If youve seen one mountain you can live the rest of your life without seeing its twin or cousin, but you cant live without fresh water and neither can the people of san francisco. The officials who engineered hetch hetchy and the downstream aqueducts did so with the intention of providing vital resources to the citizens they governed. Fresh water supplies increase living standards, reduce disease and infant mortality. Issues that still plague places like Africa today. There are few more noble causes to pursue.
Klamath dam was just removed.
Time for this dam to go.
@@chakatania that was removed because of wildlife concerns. (Fish spawning) There are no similar issues here. Its never gonna happen, get over it already.
@@Davidpirate1Good luck trying to build roads into that valley if the dam is ever removed. Enviros will file lawsuits to make it inaccessible to the average person.
Leave it as it is. Looks better with water.
win win - national park and public gets more recreational acreage , jobs and industry plus side with cutting edge water system engineering
Yosemite needs cell towers. Place would be packed if we got reception.
More 🤡 town advice.
So we’d still lose hydro-electric power for what, tourism? I wouldn’t vote for that
Tourism? Nature on this level of beauty should never have been touched.
Politicians with dirty hands and motives….once again
You can have dams in national parks.