That metal rod on the inside was for the parallel release mechanism. It allowed the snare wires to “ kiss” the bottom head along its full length at the exact same time, and when you would release the snares, they would fall away from the drum, perfectly parallel to the bottom head, and when you engaged the snare strainer again, the entire length of the wires would kiss the bottom head of the snare drum Simultaneously like I stated above
Thanks Nick. Nice playing and great illustration of what this drum can sound like. I own the exact drums, '67 build date too. I had worn parts causing weird sounds, and after a lot of trying to be happy with it, just had not enough bottom end, and was never sure I was getting it it's best. I have up ( at least for now), and did a cleaning/ conversion to a Supra. Added a P-88 AC, and it just doesn't sound like my '66 Supra, a bit different, but REALLY nice. Easy to tune, a great gigging drum that I am enjoying. Sounds great in many rooms. I'm running a Remo CS coated, Ludwig branded resonant head, 2.3 triple flanged batter hoop, 1.6 triple flanged reso hoop, and Canopus wired. Greatness!
@@NickCostaMusic Hi! I most often detuned or loosened a lug or two nearest me ( low tuning) and tightened the ones nearest the first mounted tom high. This was versatile enough for club work with bands that tried to cover a wide range of styles. With more mono thematic band you can dial the tuning more specifically. Sorry for such a long reply, but thank you for asking 🤗🎶. P.S. I got the idea from an interview with Dave Mattacks (sp?)in Modern Drummer , …long ago.
How rad - Benny Greb does that from time to time too. Rumor was that's how Garibaldi got his signature tom tone - tune the drum, loosen 1 lug. Appreciate the long reply, and thank you for checking out the vid!
Thanks for making this video! I have this exact drum, dated 1966. I was hoping you make a video focused on the snare mechanism, specifically the snare wires. Can they be replaced? What's your process for changing the bottom head?
Great suggestion! Definitely can talk about that, since it can make or break the super sensitive. To answer your question regarding snare wires - yes, they can be replaced. Ludwig and Puresound both make replacement wires, like the ones linked below! Ludwig Super Sensitive Wires - amzn.to/3OeT0OQ Puresound Super Sensitive Wires - amzn.to/4bcGw4b
Those do not fit pre 1968... My Uncle has a 67-68 super sensitive and the snares are different... The snare wires you listed only fit after 1969... I also have a late 70's super sensitive... And those listed will fit mine.... I have searched hell over high water to find a pair to replace my Uncles 1967.... No one can help me... I did find an old set of damaged snares on reverb... But that doesn't help.... Someone please read this and help me.... Have a blessed day
I always prefer the high tunning. The problem? I don't have experience tunning the drums. I used to play guitar and it's really different in terms of that
I prefer a higher tuning as well! I did make a video on how to tune a snare, maybe it can help - ruclips.net/video/P2bXaoYiQL4/видео.htmlsi=V0kGFsnCRCMukjej Also, love the username - they rip!
Nick i think the drum sounds great. I guess related to this is a Black Beauty which i own. BTW i noticed your grooves are getting more complex as you tune up the drum. Were you just getting warmed up or did the higher tunings evoke the more complex grooves?
Thank you @businessconsultant7917 ! Did you have a preferred tuning? The grooves were all evoked based on the sound - other vids in the series I end up playing a pretty straightforward pocket groove towards the higher tunings.
Can you tell us what's frecuenciy I used on top in medium and high tuning (if it's possible) and how tunning the bottom head??? Pretty tight??? Thanks bro, I have a super sensitive too (lates if 70's) and I would like sounds like the high tunning you used Thanks bro
When I tune, I just use my ear so I unfortunately don’t have any frequencies to share. What I can say is that I tune the bottom head to a tabletop tension and keep it there as I adjust the top head. That gets the best snare response, IMO.
I never understood the reasoning of the super sensitive. I GUESS having extended snares might seem to make it more responsive but I found that they did not lay as flush against the bottom head as well as using stings or straps. And the dial to tighten the snares just seemed like a bit of a snobby gimmick. It still sounds great, but I feel that The SupraPhonic breathes more and has a slightly fuller sound.
I don't either - though it seems like this was how classical/orchestral snares were designed, which are known for their response? Pretty interesting how they sound different, though they're the same shell, number of lugs, and hoops. Wonder if the added hardware for the throw off are the contributing factor?
@@NickCostaMusic I believe the SS is more "snare-y" for the fact that there's more wire on the head, but also that they have to be more on the looser side since they can't be pushed tighter up against the head because then the snares extending the sides will cause it to buckle in the middle. Ironically, that makes it less sensitive in regard to tuning.
Terms like low medium high are pretty meaning less without some kind of reference. I wish you would use a Drum Dial so you could say this head is dialed in at XX and this head is set at XX.
@@NickCostaMusic Yes, but it's still just relative and very subjective. One persons tight might be another person medium. At least with a drum dial you can say this particular head is tightened to 92 and it's a definite measure to go by, and I would personally find that much more useful.
The Ludwig Supersensitive 1968’ snare drum and 1972’ that I own are not Aluminum they are Brass covered in Chrome . I am familiar with the Supraphonic Snare drum and they lighter in weight because they are Aluminum Shells but not the same shell at least not on my Snare drum they are heavy snare drums
Appreciate the info! Do both of your shells have formed snare beds by "denting" the shell where the snare wires sit? I heard that was done on brass only shells - I'm always trying to learn!
That metal rod on the inside was for the parallel release mechanism. It allowed the snare wires to “ kiss” the bottom head along its full length at the exact same time, and when you would release the snares, they would fall away from the drum, perfectly parallel to the bottom head, and when you engaged the snare strainer again, the entire length of the wires would kiss the bottom head of the snare drum Simultaneously like I stated above
Great to know, appreciate that info!
Thanks Nick. Nice playing and great illustration of what this drum can sound like. I own the exact drums, '67 build date too. I had worn parts causing weird sounds, and after a lot of trying to be happy with it, just had not enough bottom end, and was never sure I was getting it it's best. I have up ( at least for now), and did a cleaning/ conversion to a Supra. Added a P-88 AC, and it just doesn't sound like my '66 Supra, a bit different, but REALLY nice. Easy to tune, a great gigging drum that I am enjoying. Sounds great in many rooms. I'm running a Remo CS coated, Ludwig branded resonant head, 2.3 triple flanged batter hoop, 1.6 triple flanged reso hoop, and Canopus wired. Greatness!
Sounds like a great conversion! They have such a unique sound that just works. Great job on making it a great working drum 🥁
Wow sounds great when cranked
It sure does! You could play it in that tuning for all types of styles, IMO
Symphonic to jazz to rock, funk or country, (ect.) Super Sensitive 🎉!
One drum that can seriously do it all! What was your preferred tuning?
@@NickCostaMusic Hi! I most often detuned or loosened a lug or two nearest me ( low tuning) and tightened the ones nearest the first mounted tom high. This was versatile enough for club work with bands that tried to cover a wide range of styles. With more mono thematic band you can dial the tuning more specifically. Sorry for such a long reply, but thank you for asking 🤗🎶. P.S. I got the idea from an interview with Dave Mattacks (sp?)in Modern Drummer , …long ago.
How rad - Benny Greb does that from time to time too. Rumor was that's how Garibaldi got his signature tom tone - tune the drum, loosen 1 lug.
Appreciate the long reply, and thank you for checking out the vid!
I think the high tuning is my favorite for this drum, with the dampening. People have issues with adjusting the snare mechanism.
It does have a unique sound at that tuning, doesn’t it? I was lucky that it works no problem for me
Thanks for making this video! I have this exact drum, dated 1966. I was hoping you make a video focused on the snare mechanism, specifically the snare wires. Can they be replaced? What's your process for changing the bottom head?
Great suggestion! Definitely can talk about that, since it can make or break the super sensitive. To answer your question regarding snare wires - yes, they can be replaced. Ludwig and Puresound both make replacement wires, like the ones linked below!
Ludwig Super Sensitive Wires - amzn.to/3OeT0OQ
Puresound Super Sensitive Wires - amzn.to/4bcGw4b
Those do not fit pre 1968... My Uncle has a 67-68 super sensitive and the snares are different... The snare wires you listed only fit after 1969... I also have a late 70's super sensitive... And those listed will fit mine.... I have searched hell over high water to find a pair to replace my Uncles 1967.... No one can help me... I did find an old set of damaged snares on reverb... But that doesn't help.... Someone please read this and help me.... Have a blessed day
I always prefer the high tunning. The problem? I don't have experience tunning the drums. I used to play guitar and it's really different in terms of that
I prefer a higher tuning as well! I did make a video on how to tune a snare, maybe it can help - ruclips.net/video/P2bXaoYiQL4/видео.htmlsi=V0kGFsnCRCMukjej
Also, love the username - they rip!
Nick i think the drum sounds great. I guess related to this is a Black Beauty which i own. BTW i noticed your grooves are getting more complex as you tune up the drum. Were you just getting warmed up or did the higher tunings evoke the more complex grooves?
Thank you @businessconsultant7917 ! Did you have a preferred tuning? The grooves were all evoked based on the sound - other vids in the series I end up playing a pretty straightforward pocket groove towards the higher tunings.
@@NickCostaMusic thanks. I like the mid tuning in all forms. Bill.
This has a killer sound in a medium tuning. Appreciate your insight and thanks for checking out the vid!
Can you tell us what's frecuenciy I used on top in medium and high tuning (if it's possible) and how tunning the bottom head??? Pretty tight??? Thanks bro, I have a super sensitive too (lates if 70's) and I would like sounds like the high tunning you used
Thanks bro
When I tune, I just use my ear so I unfortunately don’t have any frequencies to share. What I can say is that I tune the bottom head to a tabletop tension and keep it there as I adjust the top head. That gets the best snare response, IMO.
I never understood the reasoning of the super sensitive. I GUESS having extended snares might seem to make it more responsive but I found that they did not lay as flush against the bottom head as well as using stings or straps. And the dial to tighten the snares just seemed like a bit of a snobby gimmick. It still sounds great, but I feel that The SupraPhonic breathes more and has a slightly fuller sound.
I don't either - though it seems like this was how classical/orchestral snares were designed, which are known for their response?
Pretty interesting how they sound different, though they're the same shell, number of lugs, and hoops. Wonder if the added hardware for the throw off are the contributing factor?
@@NickCostaMusic I believe the SS is more "snare-y" for the fact that there's more wire on the head, but also that they have to be more on the looser side since they can't be pushed tighter up against the head because then the snares extending the sides will cause it to buckle in the middle. Ironically, that makes it less sensitive in regard to tuning.
wish you had more pictures of this snare ...
Compared to the entire video of the snare?
My god that bass drum though... What is the drum kit ?
It’s a @ludwigdrumshq Classic Maple. Kick is 18x22 - big!
The Super Sensitives also don't have a snare bed, similar to Rogers Dynasonislcs--is that correct?
I’m pretty sure it has snare beds, based off what I saw on the Vintage Drum forum.
@@NickCostaMusic Oh, OK. My bad.
All good! Pretty sure that’s why some convert them to supraphonics. The snare mechanisms can be weird if they’re not dialed in correctly
@@NickCostaMusic Thank you and that makes perfect sense.
Terms like low medium high are pretty meaning less without some kind of reference. I wish you would use a Drum Dial so you could say this head is dialed in at XX and this head is set at XX.
I feel they aren't meaningless, since the reference is based off the other tunings in the video.
@@NickCostaMusic Yes, but it's still just relative and very subjective. One persons tight might be another person medium. At least with a drum dial you can say this particular head is tightened to 92 and it's a definite measure to go by, and I would personally find that much more useful.
How much is it do you get a stand with it
They don't make them anymore, so you'll have to find them on the used market. They vary in price depending on the year and condition of the drum.
Should have read: I gave up, not have up, sorry.
Totally got what you were putting down
The Ludwig Supersensitive 1968’ snare drum and 1972’ that I own are not Aluminum they are Brass covered in Chrome . I am familiar with the Supraphonic Snare drum and they lighter in weight because they are Aluminum Shells but not the same shell at least not on my Snare drum they are heavy snare drums
Appreciate the info! Do both of your shells have formed snare beds by "denting" the shell where the snare wires sit? I heard that was done on brass only shells - I'm always trying to learn!