How to Repair A Slow Timed Smith and Wesson Revolver | Smith & Wesson Revolver Project

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    A slow timed revolver is one that fails to bring the chamber completely into alignment as the gun comes to battery. In this presentation, Larry Potterfield, Founder and CEO of MidwayUSA, demonstrates how to fix the timing on a slow timed revolver. Typically, slow timing is caused by the hand not fully engaging the teeth of the ratchet on the rear of the cylinder. This problem is corrected by the installation of an oversized hand. Simply disassemble the revolver, install the new hand, and check the function of the action. If the action binds, it usually means the hand was too large. To properly fit the hand, remove it from the revolver and use a fine India stone to bevel its head. Now reinstall and check the timing. Repeat this process, checking your work frequently, until the gun functions properly.

Комментарии • 45

  • @Type3Malfunction
    @Type3Malfunction 11 лет назад +33

    Never understood what cause a revolver to be out of time, let alone how to fix. Great video! Thank you.

  • @WeaponX831
    @WeaponX831 11 лет назад +16

    I absolutely love finding out how things work and how to fix them. Thanks for the great videos Larry.

  • @garymcmullin2292
    @garymcmullin2292 9 месяцев назад +1

    the generosity of you sharing a wealth of gun smith schooling is much appreciated! thank you, these a tidbits of gold for us gun enthusiasts.

  • @SpecialEDy
    @SpecialEDy Год назад +1

    I really need for Midway to buy Brownells.

  • @bullgravy6906
    @bullgravy6906 2 года назад

    Got my grandpa’s service pistol made in 1902, SW pre10, it saw service in WWI, WWII, and Korea, it locks up tight and has kept time better than a Rolex.
    Just came into a SW 2nd Model HE .455 Webley, rechambered to 45AR, made in 1917 for British Service. It’s off time and I have to get around to fixing it, this video helped a ton!
    You just can’t beat a revolver! This 1917 is the only one of my revolvers that has any negative issue, it’s earned it after the journey it’s had over the last 100+ years.

  • @silversniper22
    @silversniper22 11 лет назад +5

    i fixed my alfa-proj holek model 231 .22LR revolver by following the steps in your video and a fabricated hand.. thank you for your help Mr. potterfield.. :)

  • @greybone777
    @greybone777 3 года назад +3

    Also could be the star on the cylinder can wear out. I've seen smith's that were ww2 vintage that were still in time. Good video. 👍

  • @Robert-yj2lt
    @Robert-yj2lt 6 лет назад +3

    Omg this video today got me to fix my revolver. Issue with the cylinder not turning all the time and I saw the tension spring inside the trigger housing is what I didn’t install on the pin. Omg 8 hours later finally. Thank u

  • @RJWdevelopment
    @RJWdevelopment 2 года назад

    He made reinstalling the hand spring look sooo easy. Took me an hour of trial and error, losing the spring, buying a new one, finding the old one, and another hour of fiddling with different size punches and popsicle sticks to figure out the right technique, lol.

  • @treatb09
    @treatb09 6 лет назад +4

    i noticed my dan wesson wasn't locking the cylinder as well as it should. took the arm out and soldered a stainless steel shim to the outer side and worked it down with a diamond file. this was enough to push the hand over as the issue wasn't length but right to left movement. i get to keep all the original parts doing this. since its not a load bearing part, a shim like this was an acceptable fix. its purely a friction surface. next i think i'll try it on the cylinder bolt to further improve the lock up as it need about .001 more material.. but as of right now, its good enough to shoot. so anyone curious about adding material back on, you can get away with solder and steel if its a part that isn't load bearing. make sure you bevel the edges of the shim.
    i also have a few ideas on how to fix sears without giving up the original hammer or trigger.

  • @johnnypea5369
    @johnnypea5369 9 лет назад +15

    these videos are really cool

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 4 года назад

    Nice demonstration. Power custom parts are very good and Midway USA starts with quality source parts every time. The demonstration really shows the nuances needed to judge what needs tweaking to really make the new part work as it should. Nice!

  • @Agape11
    @Agape11 4 года назад +2

    Great knowledge ,awesome presentation and fantastic camera work! Thank you for your expertise and attention to detail

  • @Yukon12gauge00buck
    @Yukon12gauge00buck 10 лет назад +3

    Thanks my S&W is rather old and my hand broke. I installed a new one but missed the spring. BIG HELP!

  • @grassroot011
    @grassroot011 10 лет назад +2

    How about curing that dragging lock that causes that line to score around the whole cylinder?

  • @neilstern1694
    @neilstern1694 3 года назад

    This was great info. I will test to see if it chambers right. But I'll leave the rest to a professional. Now I know why my gunsmith said don't run plus p in my airweight. Thanks this will keep me safe.

  • @james0130ster
    @james0130ster 7 лет назад +2

    I have a J frame 642. I lost the spring for the hand, and also want to replace the hand, and the firing pin.
    Can you tell me what I need to order?
    Also, what is the difference between a MIM part, and a regular part, most importantly, why does it matter?
    Thank You, I really enjoy your videos.

  • @marilecescobia391
    @marilecescobia391 3 года назад +1

    I have problem with My m&p m10, idont have any problem on 4 shots is good but in 2 late timing sometimes 1 late timing on my cylinder... Its is the same problem?

  • @mikec7478
    @mikec7478 4 года назад

    Now that was a worthwhile video.

  • @Dldmny
    @Dldmny 4 года назад +1

    Larry, I always enjoy your videos and the knowledge that you share!

  • @CommunismiEstCacas
    @CommunismiEstCacas 7 лет назад +3

    Please make a video about low timed old colt double action revolver.

  • @the4armedmonk
    @the4armedmonk 11 лет назад +3

    I appropriate your videos Mr. midway usa.

  • @daltonc4181
    @daltonc4181 7 лет назад +5

    Does this apply to single action?

  • @codydover6402
    @codydover6402 8 лет назад +2

    I have a heritage rough rider 22lr and it has this problem but its brand new out of the box i just bought it. I really need help

  • @midwayusa
    @midwayusa  11 лет назад +17

    How to Repair a Slow Timed S&W Revolver: Gunbsmithing - How to Repair a Slow Timed S&W Revolver

    • @Lulmane00
      @Lulmane00 9 лет назад +2

      MidwayUSA can you inform me where i might find the revolver hand to buy iv'e searched and been unlucky with information i have an old eibar revolver and its slow times on double action

    • @midwayusa
      @midwayusa  9 лет назад +2

      ProphetBAsedx Unfortunately we don't carry a replacement hand for the Eibar revolver - only the S&W at this time.

    • @Lulmane00
      @Lulmane00 9 лет назад +2

      but i heard the eibar's are mostly exact copies of the colt or S&w 38 special but in 32-20WCF calibur. so is the S&W compatible with it ?

  • @AG_Marine_Shooter
    @AG_Marine_Shooter 3 года назад

    You are always give us amazing information 👍❤️

  • @edbecka233
    @edbecka233 4 года назад +2

    Mr Potterfield - I own about a dozen different S&W revolvers. My all-time pet 29-2 has gone out of time and I will be fitting an oversize hand and cylinder stop. You have the best prices on the parts but WHY don’t you carry the offset files for the hand and stop windows? You sell file sets by the same firm that makes the offset files for Brownells; is there some reason you can’t get them?

  • @jvm3032
    @jvm3032 8 лет назад +2

    sorry which it is measure of the part that rotates the cilinder

  • @MrSfinn9mm
    @MrSfinn9mm 11 лет назад +3

    Good video

  • @Tahara-Aichi
    @Tahara-Aichi 7 лет назад +7

    This is something I wouldn't try to do myself

  • @faustoangelicopaiva1602
    @faustoangelicopaiva1602 3 года назад

    Muito bom como amaser um revolver

  • @user-bo9zw6jz1d
    @user-bo9zw6jz1d 3 года назад

    good

  • @mojomaster5003
    @mojomaster5003 4 года назад

    I have shot a ton of shells through a wide variety of revolvers ( mainly 22 and 357/38 and have never even seen this happen.

  • @CptSmokeAlot
    @CptSmokeAlot 11 лет назад +2

    Hmm GunBsmithing... My favorite pastime.

  • @brandonsheaffer5035
    @brandonsheaffer5035 6 лет назад +10

    Everything I need to know... except how to take the gun apart and put it back together 😂👌

    • @slaughterhound8793
      @slaughterhound8793 5 лет назад +2

      I think he covered that in another video; this one is part of a whole series he did on S&W revolvers.

    • @joshtalbot1086
      @joshtalbot1086 3 года назад

      If you can't do that you should leave a job like this to a gunsmith.

  • @321ssteeeeeve
    @321ssteeeeeve Год назад

    wouldn't it be easier to replace the extractor and hand and start fresh, especially with $1800 S&W revolvers that loose time after 500 shots?

  • @olhemi1
    @olhemi1 2 года назад

    🙂👍☕

  • @bmaximize
    @bmaximize 11 лет назад +4

    im having a slow timing problem with a 686 but it is only happening on 3 of the chambers and the other 3 lock up just fine is it the same problem ???

    • @rhubarbpie2027
      @rhubarbpie2027 5 лет назад +3

      Sorta late, but that might be the pawl on the cylinder that is unevenly shaped. 10/10 send to Smith And Wesson for service

    • @aerialeggbeater2644
      @aerialeggbeater2644 4 года назад +1

      Tom Barker S&W actually calls them ratchets