HUGE Boeing News Week! Is It ALREADY TOO LATE To Save Boeing?
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- HUGE Boeing News Week! Is It ALREADY TOO LATE To Save Boeing?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Maximus Predicts The END Of Boeing
1:14 - The MAX Still Risks Serious Danger Of Engine Failure
2:30 - The FAA Gives Boeing Alutimatium: 90 Days Or Else!
6:15 - DOJ Investigates If Boeing Needs To Go To Jail This Time
5:56 - Boeing Says NO To Moving Back To Seattle
7:24 - REPORT: FAA Demands Safety Overhaul
9:21 - Expert Says Boeing Has No Plans For New Plane For DECADES
10:15 - Maximus Reveals His Prediction
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Q: What is the mating call of the Harvard MBA?
A: "Cheap, cheap, cheap!"
You know what scares me tho especilly here in te US kids dont wont to beomce engineers and scientists anyjmore. They juet want to watch Tik Tok and hope to be famouse the same way. We need to find a way to get youth interested in wanted to learn these days.
@@maximusaviationchannel it'd probably help if college wasn't just a debt trap with little chance of being able to pay it off in the future! people are disillusioned because the whole system sets everyone* up to fail - they feel there's no point in even bothering with school if it doesn't land you a good job that lets you actually pay off your debts.
everyone except those already very wealthy to begin with*
Consultants, Virgins who have read the Kama Sutra.
@@pdunderhill You've got it mostly right!! Well Done! Actually, it's "Consultants, Virgins who have read the Kama Sutra but don't understand it."
American management systems for our major corporations appear to be driven by personal greed for management . ex. GM , Boeing Ford ,etc.
Every unit out the door is cash. Marketing runs engineering and so many other problems. They have all pushed aside the understanding that there is a lot of skin in the game.
definitely
That’s a feature, not a bug.
All out capitalism working as designed….
America is controlled by the same people. That is why there is war everywhere.
Even my electric blanket turns itself off.
And my coffee kettle...
Check the label who made the blanket 🤔
Made in Vietnam
Then you are safe 👍
My electric blanket never works. It always says it has a headache. 🤣
The thing is that engineers can manage, managers can't do engineering. Most successful engineering companies were started by engineers, and destroyed by managers. Old man Douglas knew it was time to get out of his company when one day he looked around the boardroom and he realised that he was the only engineer there. That was when he knew his company was doomed.
Very well said! ✈️
Get rid of the bean counters on the board and replace them with engineers, at every stage of management.
Lawyers, Lobbyists, an anticompetitive attitude and a Soviet style PR Dept still have not let up on destroying Boeing.
The stupid and often aggressive posts to this channel and any other critical channel from Boeing in the form of their prikolliver account are a symptom of what is so very wrong.
Shooting the messenger isn't fixing anything.
Do Boeing executives secretly own beneficial quantities of Comac shares?
Bean Counters: How do we generate a large and rapid revenue stream?
Engineers: We provide quality products and services.
Bean Counters: Ha ha ha hahahahahaha!
@@keithscott1957A "large rapid revenue stream" will never come from quality products and services, you'll get customer loyalty and a good revenue stream over a long time. For a large and rapid revenue stream you need something outlandish, impractical and pointless. See Cybertruck.
The main problem is the costumer.. people want cheap tickets! So we wind up with cheap DEI pilots and crappy airplanes. Glad I’ve retired from aviation!
Boards of major us corporations do not have any role in managing the company. The times when board members were stock holding interested parties are way in the past, 50+ years. Board positions are given to former or current government officials, upper management from other companies, to relatives, to friends. Just google Boeing's board and take a look.
Fly Airbus, see the world
Fly Boeing, see the next one
This "great advertisement" made me laugh harder than it should.
🤣🫣
Fly Airbus, enjoy the life.
Fly Boeing, enjoy the afterlife.
🤣🤣
Fly Airbus, buttery smooth landing
Fly Boeing, I don't think it's a landing...
Fly Airbus, fly in peace, Fly Boeing rest in peace
With Lockheed only building military aircraft and all other commercial builders (McDonnell-Douglas) having been absorbed by Boeing, with the demise of Boeing, there will only be Airbus left to build big, wide-body passenger planes. As a European and no great fan of Boeing, this is not good. We need healthy competition in every aspect of business and that includes the building of big commercial jets.
It would give Embraer an opening to expand to larger aircraft.
Praying Airbus never becomes WOKE!! 🤔
EU will soon demand Airbus must develop feministic, vegan and gender-fair planes ….
@@SS13934 obvious troll is obvious..
Gulf Stream which is owned by General Dynamics makes great business jets. Maybe they should consider commercial planes.
As a pilot, was very disappointed to learn about Boeing's bullying of suppliers.
After requiring a supplier invest its own R&D for a Boeing aircraft, then both parties agreeing on prices,
apparently years later Boeing insists on 15% price reductions
...now that a supplier basically only has Boeing as a customer.
That is known as the GE management style.
As a ramper, I’m not surprised. When the two frankenmaxes crashed and we discovered why, I realised that there was something seriously wrong at Boeing when it came to their management culture and safety culture.
We have a very strong safety culture at the UK airport I work at. I feel safe so long as I stay alert and follow the rules. Everything we do revolves around doing our part to keep the aircraft safe. Nobody wants to be responsible for a crash. I don’t understand how the mangers at Boeing are comfortable with that.
Would actually not be legal in the EU under competition law there. Getting involved in the setting of of prices for suppliers is a big no no. We were trained on EU competition law annually.
Yet the executives get bonuses. Until they start holding board members PERSONALLY responsible with legal and financial accountability then not much will change. The FAA was too cozy and lenient with Boeing for too long. They have to change the name to Boing.
I always thought that bonuses should be paid only when the companies not in the red and when some exceptional achievement is directly attributed to the exec.
@@jamesgorman5241 That's the way the world rolls 😞
Might it be for criminal negligence or gross incompetence, white collar inadequacies have ALWAYS been shown leniency compared to their blue collar counterparts... Case-in-point:
- A Boeing executive overrules engineering and ok's a known to be potentially dangerous system ( MCAS ) and 400 people dies because of THAT careless negligent decision; he gets a bonus 😐
- A structural assembly worker overdrills rivet holes and fail to report it for fear of losing his job, the plane crashes because of it; he goes to prison 😕
Merits, Accountability, just like Justice, are NOT blind unfortunately... They are two-tier systems; one for the rich white collars and one for the poor blue collars 😞
The FAA’s wisdom to allow the aviation industry to self regulate has resulted in the demise of the largest commercial aircraft manufacture in the world.
That is what you get when you put industry executives in regulatory agency's.. always was a stupid proposition.
It started back when Jimmy Carter signed the 'Airline DeRegulation Act' . The civil aeronautics board was disbanded . The CAB regulated industry standards involving safety and pricing. The airline industry, including airplane manufacturers, were then free to run amok and self- destruct . 😮
I never understood why the FAA ever allowed Boeing to self regulate. That was never going to go well.
"allow ( ... ) industry to self regulate"
Hey... Don't diss on criminally naive Libertarian ideology !! You'll make Atlas shrug :D
( and you know what happens when Atlas shurgs, lol )
You'll also make 'respectable' politicians like Rand Paul, Matt Gaetz, Nancy Mace and Scott Perry mad 😀
@@mikoto7693 government involvement bad, small government good.
William Allen ain't coming back, building great aircraft is a lost art at Boeing. Want to say great job to the Boeing engineers who built
aircraft up to the B-777-200, 300! You guys and girls were fantastic and left a legacy in the aviation world.
They are not here in the comments
Lots of retired Boeing people here
@@nickolliver3021 Some are retired and made Boeing what it was! Damn bean counters (finance)took over and by nickel and dime methods hollowed out a great aviation company. China has gold reserves they may buy Boeing and save it?
@@josephszot5545 China comac won't even buy boeing.if boeing is going under they are too big to fail. Yes we know beanvounters take over and make the company what it is. I'm just saying your not going to talk sense thinking boeing employees are here in the comments
Uh, the unfixable Boeing chatbot now goes against former Boeing employees.
🫣😉
The Competency Crisis is REAL!
What I see is regulatory authorities talking with management… as though the management are the ones to sort things out!? No, management put the frameworks in place that caused the issues. Not the engineers and workers. This isn’t an industry full of numb nuts. It’s corporate sales targets and profits and panicked directors that started this all off
If the US government didn't protect Boeing, and give them subsidies, they would have been more worried. Mainly, it's the passengers' fault. If they would boycott Boeing, this would be over very, very, fast. Also, the risk isn't that huge, or insurance companies would up their premiums dramatically, as they don't want to lose money either.
@Real_Fanny_Urquhart
We have saying here: the fish starts stinking from the head on
They need to take drastic action. They need to fire the board and probably the top level management, then hire people with an engineering background into all those roles. They won't do it. Boeing has a problem in defense too. They have lost engineers from that area too, so they have lost key capabilities. I work for a DoD contractor too, they don't just hand out money. The tasks are much more difficult that trucking humans and boxes around the sky. We rely on engineers and scientists who have been with the company for decades. Two of my coworkers are former Boeing people, one from the 777 program and one from defense, they both say the same, that Boeing is hollowed out. In a lot of places they just have a skeleton of the former engineering team and the company thinks they can hire contractors when they have work. But they don't even have the expertise to bid. Boeing has recently no-bid some big contracts in their area.
That's the way it used to be and Boeing was known around the world for their excellent quality. Then in 1997 they decided to throw it all away when they merged with McDonnel Douglas and then let their executives take charge of the new company. It's been a downhill run since then.
Absolutely
@@RoybwatchinThe saying is that McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing’s own money.
The BIG problem with Boeing's quality problems is that they also extend to their spacecraft.
The Starliner capsule infamously had navigation problems due to an improperly set clock. What they found when they were investigating while it was still in orbit is that the service module, which is supposed to move out of the way after being jettisoned for re entry, would have likely moved towards to capsule colliding with it's heat shield.
The US government could do something meaningful: put a very heavy tax on stock awarded to corporation management as compensation.
“Shareholder value”, as a business objective, is just a benign phrase for describing the greedy cancer of management wealth.
Great analysis, I think dismantling the Ivory tower and getting back to good engineering practice rather than that dictated by accountants and shareholders will go a long way with customers and the general public.
I'd like the FAA & DOJ guys to sit the most important test on Boeing, ... that is the "A Time to Kill" test. They gotta close their eyes and imagine if all these issues applied to an Airbus aircraft what their response would be. Is Boeing getting preferential treatment ? Do cats drink milk ?
Sounds like 3M need to design some pilot-specific Post-It notes😖
As a Pilot you need to be self confident and therefore trust the plane to fly with. Now the Pilot knows the plane has a self destruct function with no visible countdown, I would have panic to be there
They are running a new line of larger Post-its.
The pilots can fold them into paper airplanes and use them as an escape module!🤣
Not gonna lie, I worry a bit about my frankenmax pilot friends. What if it’s one of them that forgets to turn the deicing system off one of those times they fly into dry conditions?
One of them likes to prop up his phone in the corner of one of the windows and turn the flashlight on when he wants to see if ice is building up on the bolts next to the windscreen wipers under certain conditions.
It won't be long before Airbus releases a plane that makes every archaic Boeing model a joke.
Not true at all. Airbus has plenty of problems as well.
Or they pile one up due to software issues. What will you say then? Odds are not with you. Don't be a fool.
@@alexp3752 htey have their problems - but not comparable in size and type. despite of the huge backlog of 3207321 they are working on a successor.
They already do.
@@mikoto7693 You people need more important things in your barren lives. Most travelers could give a crap weather their flight is a Boeing 777 or an A330. Get a life.
Thanks Maximus. As a retired former Boeing employee, sadly I agree with your prediction.
Ditto, on all points
All of which means the FAA has been every bit as dysfunctional as Boeing. Who's giving the FAA 90 days?
wihat, mayor pete buttkrieg out again on paternity leave?
Hold on, the FAA ground United’s A321 Neo with the smoking sign issue. Who says they are disfuncional? 😂😂😂
Anyone who trusts the state to help and save oneself is, well, misinformed, or downright delusional.
Easy answer:
The FAAA,
The Federal Aviation Administration Administration
Of course....
FAA has "egg on their face" big time. When that happens they need a whipping boy because they never take any blame for anything. In this case Boeing deserves the full wrath of the FAA.
Wow! Good summary of their predicament!
Considering Boeing's issues with Starliner... I don't think they are likely to win many *new* defence contracts.
boeing and not winning contracts ? the US cant afford to lose boeing as a manufacturer
it will make sure that boeing survives - but so long the US does nothing to stop the greed on the top of boeing the boeing manager are happy in my opinion
its an old problem with in the lines of to big to fail
im sure a political umbrella has protected boeing in the passed for "unreasoneble" demands from the FAA NTSB and the on
look at the FAA after the 2 crashes - nothing has showed me that the FAA was working on emproving the overside of boeing
Boeing and senior management should have been prosecuted in the 1st place. I'm sure that political interference blocked that.
I'm pretty certain that the same interference will happen this time around.
Boeing deserves to go broke and it's greedy shareholders lose their investments, but that won't happen.
As government contractor and huge financial contributor to politicians, they will be given taxpayer money to keep them alive.
And as a consequence those selfsame greedy politicians will drag this country down also.
Does 3M have an aviation division that produces post-its that are FAA approved? As far as aviation goes, the FAA and NTSB are jokes.
What’s the issue with the NTSB?
@@eguess6103 It's a bloated, out of date and slow moving waist of tax payer's money. 3 years is just too long to get things figured out and it seems as if the industry has infiltrated the decision making .
I’m pretty sure NTSB has no responsibility on enforcing acft safety. They investigate accidents and send recommendations to FAA and acft manufacturers.
i just realized that the cockpit door blowing open is another of the frankenmaxes conscious design choices.
engineering and building a shock pressure resilient door is expensive.
and if it comes to the worst, you can simply say it was by design, even tho its nowhere mentioned because it would have raised questions otherwise.
its not like rapid depressurization can lead to severe effects on the body.
There is nothing wrong with the door or its design. Purely an assembly issue, if the bolts were fitted it wouldn’t have failed
@@nicolassales8679Daff was referring to the cockpit door. The door that separates the pilots from the passengers.
When the door plug blew out, the rapid change in pressure caused the cockpit door to fly open unexpectedly. It’s a security flaw. If depressurisation at relatively low altitude is required to get the cockpit door open a well prepared terrorist group could exploit it.
No, the cockpit door opening is a design choice and just was not documented in the FCOM of the Max. Look at the FCOM of a classic 737 and it will say that the flight deck door will open in case the cabin depressurizes.
Think of it: The flight deck door and wall are not a pressure bulkhead. If the door does not open the whole wall could blow out with all the breakers and electronics mounted there if the cabin depressurizes.
If Boeing conveniently forgot to tell the pilots about MCAS and about the cockpit door flying open on depressurisation, how many more other things have they also 'forgotten' to explain? Now, the cockpit door problem is not a major safety issue because if it didn't open, the huge force avaliable from any significant depressurisation would surely smash open any door that was manufacturabile within modest weight limits, and not only force the door open but also smash the bulkhead that contains the door..
The real problem here is the lack of transparency and the definite possibility that the future could reveal further catastrophic design and production problems. If there should be ONE MORE fatal crash that might well seal Boeing's fate as people refuse to fly in their planes anymore in sufficient numbers to allow their use to continue. An airline will soon abandon Boeing if its aircraft fly half empty for even a few weeks.
That's exactly what I am thinking!
But I am afraid also the military and government sector will break away soon.
I am sure the new Air Force One's are only Boeing planes because the politicians cant bear the shame to buy them from Europe and if anybody remembers the shameful drama of ordering, not ordering and than ordering a new tanker fleet ...
If Airbus would be able to produce much more A32x and A220 planes in a short time I am sure very very many B737 MAX orders would be immediately canceled and switched to Airbus.
The only way to come back as a global player to break down, be on the ground and then restart with new company morale, new designs and come back in the 2040ties ....
That’s pretty much what I think too. The US is too proud and embarrassed to buy the next Air Force One from Airbus.
And that yes, if Airbus wasn’t overloaded with orders with a lengthy backlog many airlines would immediately switch to buying A320 and A220 variants. It’s still a terrible look for Boeing that the only reason they’re getting substantial sales is because their competitor is backlogged and airlines don’t have much choice.
Sad to say but yes, i agree , they don't seem to learn from mistakes.
You might be right in that it’s the last Commercial,Aircraft from Boeing in its current form . But the US market is too large , Boeing won’t fail and I can see Boeing benefitting from military orders , after all that’s how we got the 707 . It might get restructured though and maybe one of the other US aerospace manufacturers will pick up the commercial organisation . Northrop-Boeing ? It certainly needs new management
Not sure you got the sequence of events right with the 707. The 707 came from the 'Dash 80' prototype albeit with a wider fuselage. The military aircraft was the KC-135 with a wider fuselage than the Dash 80 but narrower than the 707.
@@1chish yes but the whole thing came from USAF requirement for a jet refueler for their B47s
@@russellbenton2987 Nope. It came from William Allen realising they needed to produce a jet airliner. Especially after they visited Hatfield to see the Comet being assembled and saw the future and it was all internally funded. After the Comet crashes they redesigned the windows to be oval, used thicker aluminium and made other technical changes to brackets and rivets.
In fact it was very much later in the prototype Dash 80s life Boeing fitted a boom to the rear fuselage to show the USAF.
Boeing's government contracts? Can you say Starliner? The ship where they put flamable tape inside the capsule ala Apollo 1? The one where if one of the parachutes failed, it would cause the others to fail? The one with i think over a hundred major issues?
Yeah, the one that NASA paid twice as much for as Dragon "because Boeing isn't as risky as SpaceX".
It is amazing how much bad management and a toxic work environment can do and yet it is happening to nearly every business. We need smarter people operating corporations, not more aggressive people as we select now.
Boeing is headquartered these days in Arlington, VA. Because first and foremost today's Boeing is a defense-contractor. Commercial airplanes are a "legacy product". Perhaps it would be best if they spin off the commercial airplane division. That might solve a lot of management related problems.
As a Boeing retiree, am I attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis (screwed), in terms of a pension loss?
Where’s the pension?!?! Strike strike strike!
I’m surprised that I didn’t require the “screwed” in brackets to understand that. My aircraft mechanic friends should be proud-it means that what they’ve been teaching me is sinking in. 😆
@@mikoto7693I actually stole the line from Leonard Hoffstetter..🤫
It would be very problematic to lose Boeing for commercial aviation, not because it is Boeing but because there should be strong market competition for the benefits of all involved.
In Australia one major airline, Jetstar, only flies Airbuses and Qantas recently abandoned the 737 completely deciding to renew it's fleet with A320s and A220s.
I've written to two of the other airlines recently informing them that I'll be forced to boycott them if they threaten to put me on a 737MAX. I said I didn't mind whether they chose Airbus, Embraer or Fokker. Haven't heard back yet.
I said the same to Singapore airlines
You have a connecting flight on this death ship
I Won’t book with you until you remove it
Sad to see Virgin and Batik only using these
There of my list as well
I don’t fly often, but as a Brit I’m glad that I have EasyJet as an option because they only have Airbus planes in their fleet.
Wizz air are also all airbus... Flew with them December 2023 and they were excellent @@mikoto7693
Besides Boeing changes, the FAA needs an overhaul and upper management needs to be removed!
This problem is of Boeing’s own making, they won’t fix it, it’s commercial aircraft day’s are numbered. The “frankenmax “ is a good nickname
I’ve adopted the nickname myself. I work at an airport as an aircraft cleaner and ramper (we herd aircraft around while they’re on the ground) and while I’m not surprised my fellow ground crew have also started using that nickname…
I never expected that the frankenmax *pilots* and some of the *mechanics* would start using it too. 🤣 Maximus has no idea what he started at my airport.
Sure, many predicted this outcome with moving the HQ from Seattle and focusing on using non-contract labor, but few really thought that the board and regulators would let it go this far. The road back from here? Honestly I don't see one, not with the instigators still holding the reins.
I think you are spot-on. Their headquarters being in Arlington, VA evidences that. They really are focussed on the defence stuff and due to all the costs of the problems they've had they have no money to invest in new commercial aircraft designs. They might recycle the 747, since the A380 is out of the picture, but basically, they have lost their cutting edge in commercial aviation market. They have to sort the quality control issues out, and that's going to cost them money and investment too. I don't believe any of their management executives actually understand how to properly build and design a plane any more. They are too bothered about short-cuts and cost-cutting affecting the bottom line. They sub-contract out so much of their manufacture that used to be done in house, they are little more than an assembly line operation. I still maintain I will not get on a 737MAX.
I completely agree with you I refuse to fly the MAX as well,
I not only refuse to fly on the frankenmax but Boeing aircraft altogether. I’m fortunate enough to have airlines available to me that only have Airbus in their fleet, or only use an Embraer on those specific routes.
Good video. I think the shareholders will eventually force the board and management fix the commercial division on company and build safer planes. Boeing will survive.
737 was designed with 60 year old technology. Nothing wrong with designing a replacement, even the 757 never had a long life.
That’s what is concerning about Boeing. The 737 is 60 year old technology with newer technology awkwardly crammed into it. The frankenmaxes are the result of pushing an outdated design beyond workable limits.
Boeing should have started designing a clean sheet successor to the 737 at least five years ago. They should have done it instead of creating the frankenmaxes. But they aren’t even designing a successor even now. It’s why I think Maximus is correct about Boeing eventually shutting down production of commercial aircraft.
I mean, the A320 is a 40 year old design that has undergone different variations and Airbus is already making plans to replace it with a successor in another 5-10 years.
Unlike Boeing they’re not planning to milk the A320 for another twenty years and end up with something like that frankenmaxes, an inherently aerodynamically unstable aircraft.
Brazil do have an university "exclusively" to form Embraer engineers, ITA. This could provide some workforce Boing needs for some time.
Boing hired some Embraer engineers. It may need lots more.
Well considering that all current production of Military aircraft are being done by either Boeing or one of their subsidiaries, I feel that either the company will either split or be “rescued” by a bailout…
I think Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman would argue that statement.
@@1chish they work a lot with Boeing and there is even rumor of Boeing owning some of their stock…. I know rumor…. But also most of LM’s aircraft are not under current production
@@SgtJazz-mr6wr There is a big difference between working with' and 'being owned by'. As for that rumour Boeing are not on LM's shareholder list.
Finally I think the F-35 production lines in the USA, Italy, Japan and the UK would disagree about there being no current production
bravo Maximus. End Boeing, jail the board
Agreed, but unfortunately, it's not the board having to pay mortgages and support families. They have already had their 30 pieces of silver.
I can't believe I am saying this but I totally agree with your video. For the safety of the flying public Boeing needs to sell off it's commercial aviation division right away before more people die. I have banned myself from flying on any of the 737Max aircraft because like you my patience has run out. I am 57 and for my whole life Boeing had been the standard that set the standard I purchased books about their aircraft types and proudly wore the clothes from there museum in SEA-TAC. Now I want Boeing Commercial gone as soon as possible before it spoils my memory of the once greatest aviation company in the world. I want to cry. It is as if I am watching a good friend slowly die. RIP Boeing Commercial Aviation.
They were dead the moment they moved the hdqs from Seattle to Chicago. That day, the bean counters instead of the engineers started building airplanes.
Once the reputation of a large company is ruined, it's hard to convince others they have changed. The completely put profit ahead of safety. The accidents that followed ruined their reputation and cost their customers millions. If you were a corporate executive would you bet your business on these clowns...I mean really, leaving bolts out, this was not some obscure engineering flaw, this was a complete failure of the employees to give a damn.
Exactly. Quite a few people no longer fly Boeing. This is anecdotal but I’ll share it anyway.
I work at an airport in the UK as an aircraft cleaner and ramper (aircraft herder while on the ground) and I took to using Maximus’s “frankenmax” nickname at work. And I expected a few of my fellow ground crew to pick it up as well since the 737 max family have become a bit of a joke.
What I didn’t expect was for the *pilots* -some of whom actually fly them-to pick up the nickname. And it’s not with affection, but contempt. Even a couple of the mechanics have started with it.
Maximus has no idea what he started. 🤣
Yep, I think sadly your prediction is spot on!
As a contractor working at various suppliers, and divisions in the 787 development, I was disturbed by the steady decline in engineering focus as the program went on. Increasingly subcontractors couldn’t even get copies of the engineering requirement spec. The databases had been reserved for Boeing only, or abandoned and increasingly only pdfs of hard copies of formal release docs (essentially the print outs that would be formally signed by legal, rather then the data bases these were extracted from. Obviously doing a OCR scan of a document, or pdf. If not a reliable or efficient way to get the data into subcontractor data systems to design from. But increasingly the Boeing engineers didn’t seem to get it. To many blank stares and sub contractors increasingly saying this isn’t the “A” list level of engineers they are used to dealing with on new aircraft development.
That’s concerning to read.
Have Richard Aboulafia the CEO (he is quite insightful and well beyond sharp). Fire (and jail) the current CEO and board of directors for their exceptional levels of incompetency. Have a good look at the next level of management, and more than likely fire them all as well. Reconstitute the board with shining stars from the aviation world with the mandate to bring Boeing up to the standards they were back in the 1980s.
And move back to Seattle!
Sadly you are probably right
Very accurate!! And disappointing from an incredible history a total board change is needed!
Airbus absorbed basicly every European manufacturer including many just from the UK... in the interests of global flight safety it is perfectly reasonable that airbus USA manufacturing increases and thus a homogenous support and quality standard is achieved... USA workers are paid whatever airframe they are working to support so I really don't see why interest groups have been allowed to cause the anachronistic situation we now have, where boring and NASA are backward whilst free market efforts have embraces technology and good practice hand in hand..
Airbus is a consortium.
You'd think they'd have things turned around by now... So sad! You didn't even mention the lovely new factory in South Carolina that in it's first year had airlines refusing any 787s built there because of extensive, repeated problems. And the KC-767 had serious problems, too.
The "797" has been pushed so far back on development, it would be probably 20 years before it comes out, if it ever got properly completed before release. (Remember the 787 batteries igniting midair?) Such a shame!
BTW; Are you feeling alright? You didn't quite sound like yourself, hope all's well with you.
even as a subconsciously Airbus biased European / German - the engineer in me is cringing - it hurts to see Boeing in this situation. I deeply admire the objectiveness you maintain as an American ! Keep up the good work !
Maximus really the best CEO airbus is ever had? Exclamation lol
I agree with you 100%
.... The best Manager Airbus has ever had..... sad but also so true
He was also lead director for many years before taking over the firm.
Boing; where quality escapes and doom resides.
thanks Max, awesome video
If the dept of justice re-opend its criminal prosecution over the 2 Max crashes and wins the case, how many and who, go to jail and for how long?
Well Maximus, I hope you get to read this.
I work at a UK airport as an aircraft cleaner and ramper (aircraft herder) and I adopted your “frankenmax” nickname. While I expected my fellow ground crew to take to using the nickname since we regard the 737 maxes as a bit of a joke…
I didn’t expect the *pilots* to start using the nickname too. Some of them fly the frankenmax 8s. Even a couple of the mechanics are taking to it.
It reinforces my decision to refuse to fly on a frankenmax. If the pilots pick up a nickname with contempt instead of affection, something ain’t quite right with it.
This is what happens when people running a business don't understand the business they run.
Boeing does space programs and military programs but only the commercial airplane biz is a bust?
Nope, check Starliner issues or KC-46 delivery suspension.
ummm they're not doing well with starliner and the MIC seems to be getting their arse handed to them in land of ukie by russian shovels using washing machine chips for the brains, so they are equally crappy across the field. reaper is just waiting for the obese lady to finish her song.
They are all in the red
Well, many programs in the defence sector were delayed. Like the T-7 or the KC-46.
@@jantjarks7946you forgot Air Force 1 contract. They are underperforming and have lost $2.4 B over the past five years on the contract.
Buying McDonnell Douglas started the decline. Concentrating on shareholder value rather than engineering meant cost cutting to the detriment of quality and a doom cycle
I agree with Maximus. If Boeing commercial aviation if going to to survive, then the company needs to re-invent its self with a range of single aisle narrow body aircraft using the technology gained from the B787 project.
This all goes back to the McDonnell Douglas takeover of Boeing in 1996. MD management weren't satisfied with running McD into the ground and resolved to destroy Boeing as well. The first bad decision they made was killing the B757 program and imagining that they could keep the B737 evergreen to replace it.
The problem is that many management types bought those books with the creepy-looking Jack Welch on the front cover, and believed what they read.
Seems accurate prediction in closing argument
I wonder if Calhoun’s 2 engine 747 will include secret autopilot software that suddenly drives the plane into the ground.
"If it aint Boeing, I aint dying."
😂
What is the last thing you hear in a crashing airplane?
BOEING!
For some years, I've felt in my bones that the 777X will never be delivered, at least not in any effective way. Maybe they'll start to be delivered and then they are riddled with faults that make them uneconomic or unsafe.
Time was when American companies increased their profits by producing better products and selling more of them.
Then the MBA types took over.
I'm old enough to remember fly-by-wire technology being introduced. Nowadays fly-by-postit note and the seat of your pants is the latest innovation....
Any public traded company has to show profit for shareholders..
To keep their jobs at the top, they cut every 1/1000 of a penny…
Just the ways it works…
The saddest part…they CHOOSE, to cut safety
Boeing needs to be broken up into more manageable entities . The problem thru out the industry is the consolidation allowed by the government. Anti trust laws should be enforced .
Sunday morning coffee at the mango farm with Maximus
Boeing we take the doors off so you get a better view oh and don’t forget about the thrills they we’ll last you a life time hang on
Do you think the Max 10 will ever be certified?
I think so BUT not before end of 2025 because of several changes requested by the FAA...
@@patrickpeters2903it should be 2025. Not even late.
Of course. It has to be
sickeningly on point
I can’t see the lawmakers in Washington allowing Boeing to just stop their commercial division. I can see them likely forcing a demerger.
PROFIT IS THE HIGHEST AMONG HIGHEST PRIORTY, rather than SAFETY OF PEOPLE
Boing never fails to find a new low. I think it'll take more than a decade for them to change into something good again. :(
Post it notes might be used to secure plug doors.
Check out 787 going down down SYD to AKL. Due to the 3 automated systems rebooting at once. Nose wheel falling off somewhere else. And techs using credit cards to measure seals.
Great video! Logically, Boeing will soon spin off their commercial aviation. It is obviously too difficult. Easier to get juicy contracts from the US government.
If only BDS was doing well. Seems they can't bid a contract properly and need to be able to bill above and beyond the quoted price to make a profit.
The problem with Boeing and every other major company in the US is the fact that no one is ultimately responsible for anything. Everything is done by committee with no real leader. I saw that at the end of my career and hated it.
To fix all these issues sounds expensive and long term… it’s a matter of time before another accident pops up
Now remember in the 1950 s that the Stratocruiser regularly shredded props and engines and crashed a lot
Neither airlines nor passengers will tolerate the sort of accident rate we had in the early days of mass air transport.
It’s clear Calhoun still doesn’t get it, never did. Several years after taking the helm and still not a single engineer in the board. Huge engineering and manufacturing company and all major decisions make exclusively by financial managers and lawyers. One disaster after another and zero change in that regard.
Two major mistakes of Boeing :
1- cancel the 717 program
2 - try to compete against Airbus with an obsolete inferior 737 ✈️
I would hope that the US government wouldn't let Boeing go down. - remember the military stuff that they make. The civilian aircraft part may be vunerable if any more major problems or accidents occur.
The US government wouldn´t let Boing go down if their plane would lose 2 engines while in the air. Years ago boing and airbus fought for a government contract building transport aircrafts. Government said Airforce gets what they think is best. Airbus has met the specifications and price much more than boing. Airforce choses Airbus, boing shocked - lobby - Airforce changed specifications to boings favour.
Boeing was over the moment the DC-10 bunch took over.
The idea that Boeing can be split into two businesses has one major flaw: With two businesses the military arm cannot pass across to the civilian arm all the excess 'profits' (aka subsidies) that the US Government provides to keep Boeing going as it does now.
And then where will the US Senators and Reps get their lifestyle assistance from?
The elephant in the room is that Boeing is 'too big to fail' and is the ONLY Us civilian aircraft manufacturer. Regulators and judiciary people may penalise all they want but US politicians will keep the backdoor bungs - sorry funding - going come what may. Remember how US Senators went into bat for Boeing over the USAF Tanker debacle in 2008 and then blamed 'foreign untrained pilots' for the 346 people killed by Boeing.
US Incorporated runs US Government not the other way round.
You forgot to mention negotiations to purchase Spirit.
Now the next question - what about P&W and GE? Airbus prefers RR…
Yes it does. In the 2030s it plans to develop a 737 successor.
Boeing = ✈️ 🛩 🛬 🔥 🔥 🔥