First story: It's not about you being sick. HE never experienced it, so it can't possibly be real. I had a boss who thought those in our section with diabetes were making it all up, even though he was an M.S. in biochemistry. One day a doctor was meeting with our section, and Boss said, "I've got you now!! Doc, does diabetes make you trembly and thirsty, for REAL?" The doctor looked at him like something that just emerged from a rock and said, "Yeah....and then you pass out, then have seizures, AND THEN YOU DIE!!!" Never heard any more about it!
Companies will fire executives like that because if an employee goes into a seizure or dies due to an agent who is a superior of the victim, the liability can be huge. Like 7 digits liability, huge fines and the lawyer fees and possible class action when the other employees hear about it.
Well he wasn't on the wrong track. Type 2 diabetes is a metabolic disease. Type 1 diabetes can be managed with diet. Diabetes is a disease that big pharmaceutical companies do not want to cure but treat.
@@bella-rolland, Especially when you go to Evergreen College in Wa. State. At this college there are no grades & you don’t even have to attend class believe it or not. At the end of each semester you just hand in an essay on what you learn to get a pass or fail. Many Rich people across the U.S. send their lazy kids there & they can Easily go to the internet & find someone smart that actually stayed in class & learned which they Pay for them to write an essay so they can pass class they’ve Never been to. Which means if you get a pass for your classes then you get your degree that you or your parents paid for someone else to do the work & come out of college knowing Nothing about your degree. I’ve worked with Several of these Evergreeners on State jobs that were Clueless!
Story 1: Gee I wonder where the big boss man could have picked up his lung infection from. If only there was some way to stop sick people from infecting everyone else...
I remember a MC story where the boss either died or almost died after he forced OP to come to work sick, causing the entire office to get sick as well. That was some nuclear karma.
One of my bosses demands a coworker to come in, I went to get her for break to find her bent over a pallet truck. I said she shouldn’t be here. She did try to call off work but he insisted she come in. In the end she was out longer because she had forced herself to come in. Horrible person.
This is actually how I gave everyone in my department covid a week before the lockdown started. I was literally laying on the tables next to food in front of customers and felt like I was dying, but wasn't allowed to go home for three hours because the boss would rather have me coughing and dry heaving on the food than be down one out of five workers that day.
Final Story - That idiot Kyle should’ve lost his position and been suspended without pay. Even if OP didn’t have a medical condition, heat stroke is not something to joke about or take lightly. Also what OP did was risky and stupid.
I can relate with that story, my dad used to be a business partner with this guy who owned 2 big clothing manufacturing companies in LA, but my dad’s always been a charismatic salesman with over 20yrs of technical knowledge and experience of the entire process, while the other guy was more of a desk guy who didn’t like to associate himself with the employees or clients. Long story short he ended up backstabbing my dad after he got him big designer brands as clients and didn’t give him his part of the profit, so my dad walked out on him and took everything he contributed to the business, and since the guy never dealt with any of the groundwork stuff he lost the most talented employees, the entire denim and wash house section and the big brands, he ended up closing that business because he stopped making a profit and only kept a dye house with a finishing department. Years later my dad’s even branched out to the international market and opened a bog manufacturer in Mexico. Sometimes these assholes do us a favor by forcing us out of our current situation I’ve come to find.
PSA for that last story: Heatstroke is a very real thing that can happen to anyone if they let themselves get too hot. People who didn't have pre-existing health conditions have died from heatstroke - not from being in conditions where passing out is potentially lethal, but just from the effects of the heatstroke. If you're working in a particularly hot place, or carrying out strenuous physical activity, make sure to hydrate regularly and ensure that you're able to cool down if you need to.
For real, any of the heat stress illnesses are not a fun time. Had a bad case of heat syncope back in the peak of summer this year and I was stuck hugging a bag of ice and puking every half hour for about 9 hours, it's not a fun time. If you feel like you're starting to overheat, and especially if you stop sweating, find some shade and room temperature water (ice can shock your system and make things worse) and take as long as you need to cool down again.
I realized I wasn't drinking enough water when I started showing signs of a potential heat stroke during a field trip. Luckily my professor noticed and had one of the TAs help me carry some of my stuff (I tend to bring a lot with me) so I could drink from my water bottle before it got worse.
@@bigb878 Although, whether if the story is true or not but employers still need to allow sick days due to the act of health and safety. Yes with these stories about CEOs and managers and all that does sound a little fictional. Especially that one story where op left and suddenly the former company went into bankruptcy. Sounds like a skit from Apple Text.
Yeah, it is super fake. Like cmon, the guy is the only one sick despite interacting with just as much as the coworkers that only existed to high five OP?
@@fomori2I’m pretty sure at least a decent chunk of the stories have at least some truth to them. Though I would expect a solid amount of embellishment in the average story.
@@fomori2 funny enough a lot of these stories aren't as far fetched as you might think because humans ARE in fact this stupid sometimes. you just haven't been witnesss to a lot of these to which you should thank whatever lucky star you are born under. I CAN say i have seen personally a locally known lady try to bring her 'service dog' in to a restaurant, that i worked for at this time, in a pink shaded baby stroller. (a chihuahua as i recall. this incident happened at least 5 years ago.) She made a minor scene despite sitting middle of a section in a restaurant during busy period being stared at by at least half the patrons. naturally her and her friend were surprised when the evening manager came out and ask them to leave. there was relatively little drama about it...but still pretty wild. Before you ask no the dog had no vest and no documentation. both required. I found out a couple days later through a couple conversations that she was known for pulling that stunt so she was fairly well recognized at every establishment or store that had to throw her out.
I've told at least one of my bosses at one of my past jobs that if anyone ever questioned if I was actually sick, I'll come in, and vomit on their desk as proof. I don't take sick days because I don't want to go to work, I take sick days because I don't want to pass what I have to others or cause injury to myself or others because of me being medicated
If I say I'm sick, I'm sick. If I say I'm not feeling well, I might be sick, might just be my dinner disagreeing with me, but I'd rather not risk it (assuming I'm calling in) If I say I just... can't... I'm probably depressed and desperately need some emotional sunshine, and work is unlikely to provide it. If I'm suffering from allergies to the point that people are asking if I'm sick, Might consider calling out because that much misery is not good for customer service. If I'm not customer facing, I'd come in, though, I would just need a box of tissues and some lozenges, plus water...
I just got this wierd idea about all those American zombie movies. What if the apocalypse came because someone insisted that infectees all came back to work? Oh, wow.
I mean if someone tried that on me id just be like im not coming in and you can fire me if you like. and if they fired me id be hired in .5 seconds in one of the THOUSAND lawn companies that are understaffed. Lawn care might not be the greatest job ever but since an overwhelming majority of people hate the work im quite secure in my job.
Story 3. A boss like Karen will blame all her failures on her workers and even try to get their State and professional certifications pulled out of spite and evilness. As soon as you recognize this kind of boss, leave immediately! Even if you don't have another job lined up. Better some hard months of eating ramon looking for a job, than having your certs pulled and having to find an entire new field of work.
I currently work with this kind of boss... however, I've got a few layers of protection(including two District managers being willing to come to my defense and attempt to open up a place for me). I do have a job lining up. And the entire thing will crumble around my new boss, as I'm the only reason three(out of four) employees have even stayed as long as they have. He's only been in charge for the past two and a half months.
Story 3: "In My Book, Experience Outranks Everything." Rex, Star Wars the Clone Wars. Amazing how often stupid upper management can brings down entire companies down.
My experience is that it's self-protecting middle management that causes all the problems; insulate the boss from reality, exist only to perpetuate themselves, resist information and change from below, absorb huge amounts of pay and time better spent on people creating value... etc.
So true, also love that moment cause it so clearly established both of the characters and their dynamic of mutal respect.having her immedietly der to him and ambiguous to earn his respect in turn
Story 1: i have heard this story several timesand everytime i say the same thìngs, so i'm gonna say it here as well: Don't take lung infections lighty. They are deadly and OP didn't "look like they're fighting for their life" they were fighting for their life. A coworker of mine died due to it, he was 25. Take it seriously. If you cought for a week and it isn't getting better, see a doctor. While not common, lung infections don't have to come with a fever (same for other infections)
Just said my final goodbye to a longtime friend that had developed such an infection that had grown into a golf ball sized nodule of bacteria in one lung. He was told they had one chance to clear it out with a strong antibiotic, but the nodule was large enough that there was a significant risk that it would fail. As my friend was already struggling with the long term effects of having smoked since high school, he opted for hospice care at home. 😕
Story 3: What was Karen expecting to happen? She makes the whole place miserable just because "I'm the boss and I'll run the place the way I want to" and she eventually got fired for it because one of her changes was not liked by her boss
Story 4 - That’s poetic justice. OP gets fired by an incompetent boss only to do much better for himself and his former boss loses everything. What an idiot.
Story 1: "Yes, and how many *personal* days have you taken?" Story 2: I would have refused to sign any write up. Story 3: Report her to the Dept. of Labor for threats, and send CC to the owners AND shareholders.
I had a review that said I didn’t get along with the other employees. I was a senior manager over accounting, payroll and HR. I looked after the employees. I asked for where that came from and the reply was he had heard stuff. I refused to sign since gossip is not a basis for review. It was removed. If they said members (golf club) that would have been fine I was always ruining their fun 🤣 (by doing my job)
*Story 1-* That's the same with my hubby!!! My hubby never gets sick. But, when he gets sick, *he's sick!* The year we got married, he caught someoething. He was sweating, had a feaver, and it was so bad I had to sleep on the couch because he wanted to cuddle (because he was cold) but he was wet from the sweat! I told him he had to stay home, but he kept denying that he was sick. He kept going, but you could tell he was in pain! Finally, *his mom* pointed out that he was sick, so he stayed home the next day! *It turns out the reason he kept going to work was because his boss was a jerk and would yell at him if he didn't come in!* Luckily, that dude doesn't work there anymore!
Story 4: oh, the irony... boss fires the guy out of fear of being replaced, and ends up causing said guy to replace him anyway. I love those stories where people try to prevent something from happening, only for their actions to be the trigger that causes that thing to happen. Story 5: Too bad OP didn't sue. It would've been a slam dunk.
Reminds me of Greek comedy. I think it was Oedipus who ended up marrying his mother and killing his father because his father father threw him away as a baby to prevent it from happening. I am not so much of a fan of the trope because of it
Before retiring I had a construction company, I supplied ice and water for the guys when it started to get hot. I had fans near the work area and would have them take breaks as needed. Never had anyone get sick or pass out from the heat, it was far cheaper to keep them healthy than to have to pay for hospitalization or their death.
Story 3 - Leave it to an unqualified power hungry Karen to screw up a functioning work environment only to get justifiably fired. As you’ve mentioned before, ‘People like that SHOULD NOT be in a position of power’
I and others of the qualified staff just abandoned ship moments after the boss anounced that his daughter (spoiled princess) got control of the "wheelhouse"😁
The only people who should be in positions of power are the ones who don't want to be in positions of power. People should really vet those in power and test them to see if they actually are a decent fit to BE in a position of power. The ones who would actually get the job done and ethically too and can actually lead and don't want the job are the ones who are the best fit.
'No-one, and I mean NO-ONE that seeks power, especially petty power, should EVER be permitted any'. There must be a numerical system in place for every function, and month-long training sessions for everybody in any role they can perform, and ALL of those roles must be fulfilled before anyone can be promoted into a position f responsibility. - and it MUST be temporary. Rotate proven leaders through other similar roles (in an organised manner, so that everyone knows what's happening well before) until they have gathered the knowledge needed to take on more responsibility (NOT power). - and ALL people must be paid based upon proven performance at every step.
Story 1: if you haven’t taken a sick day in 9 years and boast about it, especially if you’ve gotten sick in those 9 years and came in anyway, it goes to show that you are a slave to your work. Personal safety and well-being over your work, period
2nd story: so the boss is to lazy to yell at one of her employees for not doing their job but not to lazy to yell at her employees who is doing their job. And now she can't write op up cause, she did exactly what she told her to do.
Basic lesson: It you suggest to someone that they quit, expect them to do so and be prepared for that outcome...if you aren't prepared for that, don't tell them to quit!
Final story: my daughter has a similar condition. She cannot regulate her temperature so she has to wear a special vest lined with pockets to keep ice packs in so she doesn't over heat. OP could have caused serious harm to himself just to teach some jerk a lesson, not cool OP
Yeah, that was a totally stupid move on OP's part. Kyle should be fired for putting an employee at risk, and OP should be fired for playing a lethal game.
The "Boss-Karen" in the third story made it into a "swedish" home for the elderly. In Sweden, profit is all that matters and government turns a blind eye to malpractice and abuse as long as the costs are low.
Story 4: Good news, he didn't lose his job to the guy, he just lost all his employees to him. Story 6: Everyone should be allowed to have water at work, regardless of health or weather conditions. Denying that is just stupid.
OP was stupid! When Kyle told him to get back to work, he should have told Kyle that his body doesn't deal with heat well due to a Medical Condition and he's at risk of Heat Stroke so either Kyle gets out of his way or he calls the Health Department and a Lawyer to Sue Kyle and if I DO get Heat Stroke, he'll also call the Police to have Kyle ARRESTED for Criminal Negligence causing Bodily Harm... I would have...in fact, when Kyle tried to stop me from getting water, I'd have told him to get out of my way and gone to get the water, then go to the Boss to Report Kyle for Endangering my Health and Life and Politely tell Boss that either he hammers Kyle or I call the Government (OSHA, Health and Labour) and a Lawyer for the lack of accessible water in a Hot Working Environment which I can guarantee is a Violation of Health and Labour Laws...
Story 1 - I love bosses that decide they are a doctor and order you in to work. "Ok boss, I'll come in. Do you mind if I bring someone from the medical board with me?" and if asked why "Well, you are claiming to be a doctor by saying you decided if I am sick or not, but if you dont have a medical degree, then you dont have that authority." I honestly wouldnt care if I was fired, but I'd sure made sure that it was publicly known that my old boss was trying to act like he had a medical degree.
The job I held had a policy, where if you called out sick for 3 days or more you needed a Dr’s note. I became ill once with a respiratory illness, when I called out sick for the 2nd day in a row, my supervisor told me was sounding better so he expected me to come in the next day. So I did, I stayed for about 4 hrs, doing absolutely no work while I coughed and sneezed. I then went home sick. I was out sick for the next two days. Since I wasn’t out for 3 full days, he couldn’t demand a Dr’s note.
Karen in an incare hospice place? Good Lord Almight......... you're there to take care of these people and make sure their days are as great as humanly possible.
I remember reading the last story, and it didn't end there, OP gave an update, though I don't remember exactly what it was, just that the company was placed under some sort of strict new rules due to him almost getting killed.
OSHA should have been informed of this incident. I'm sure if they had inspected the facility, it would have cost that company THOUSANDS of dollars to being everything up to FEDERAL SAFTEY CODE.
First story: notice how bosses just ignore that sick employees may not even be able to drive? So, not only are other employees can get sick, but others on the road are in danger.
I worked for a Dunkin Donuts for 2 years, 12 a.m. to 6 a.m., 7 days a week. I took 2 days off in that 2 years, one for a wedding, and one because I was sick. I stopped by the shop, I called the manager, and told her I had viral pneumonia, and I should NOT be around food or customers. She made me wait for her, so I sat down at a table. As soon as she saw me, coughing, sneezing, fluids running all over my face, she finally believed me. She called in 3 people and herself for my shift, that I did by myself every night. She appreciated me much more after that, as she told me she didn't know how I got all the work done by myself. On my way out, she went behind the counter and told the person working to grab the sanitizer and wipe down the table and all the door handles, and anything else I was near or touched immediately. At least she had some smarts!
Last story: OP is like, I'm going to die to put my idiot boss in his place. Instead of risking my life, I would have gone to HR and filed a complaint against the boss for violating workplace safety and employee health conditions. Also, he ended the story with a passive aggressive joke to the apologizing boss...No, if you're foolish enough to risk your own life to show up a cruel boss, then you need to follow it up with at least a lawsuit against them. You might not win because of your own negligence in regards to your health, but at least you'll get the point across.
Story #6: I have a medical condition that causes the same thing. It's called Malignant Hyperthermia... It's not fun. 80 degrees in the direct sun for just 10 minutes and I start experiencing heat stroke symptoms. Above 90, I can't be in the sun for more than about 5 minutes. 100+, I can't be outside.
The problem is with some bosses that the most capable eployees often look like they are doing the least work. And bosses like that need to see everyone working hard all the time or they think they're slacking off, usually because they would be slacking off themselves.
Last story: I will never, EVER understand why bosses do not think of the basic human freaking right to have water/drink to keep hydrated. Last I checked, we're humans, not sand gazelles!
@@NamiTheNeko In the country I live in, it absolutely is. Also when conditions are that hot, employers are required to take steps to allow for employee cooling.
@nickandres7829 I live in California and it's the same here. It can get over 110° Fahrenheit. Employers have to allow outdoor workers to take a minimum 5 minute break somewhere cool whenever they need it and have to supply water.
Story 6: Besides the glaring human rights violations, if you are in danger of dying without getting the water, then that's also a lawsuit in the making. Good job, I'll, you're going to cost your company who knows how much money..
I took a employment class once, and the teacher asked what was the most important benefit a company needs to have. After writing several answers down, healthcare, paid time off, etc. After we couldn’t think of any more, he told us we had forgotten the most important benefit there is, a great boss. No matter what job you have, if you have a lousy boss, every day will be miserable, and you’ll end up hating your job.
Story 4: That's my dad. Too old to run his company directly anymore, but he has solid second and third-in-commands who run the business well. And no, I'm not following in my dad's footsteps because I'm too clumsy and power tools scare the shit outta me.
I agree with DarkFluff on the last one that it was a risky move, BUT I also think it speaks to corporate culture that someone has to risk their health to prove they have health issues.
Im a lead at my Job. We frequently tell the employees. "You don't need to tell us why you are calling out sick, just tell us you are using a sick leave, and for how many days. We don't want to hear a obvious lie on the phone. Just tell us your not going to be in, if you don't have the sick time, you can use a vacation day instead, however you will be pointed for not having enough sick time." We have a point system, where if you earn 13 points in a rolling 6 month period, you may be terminated. at 7 and 10 points, you are given a step 1 and 2 respectively. Those are just write ups with the level indicating the seriousness and fall off after 6 months.
Story 6: I figure their options were to either try to stave off heat stroke long enough to make it to their break or force it to show the boss what happens. I would've chosen the latter too
Second story. . . Boss insists that OP writes a report for the other section. . The repoert I would write. . "Machine broken. Product fucked up. . I'm not from that section so I don't know why or how it fucked up"
As a manager, you ABSOLUTELY want employees that work well, so that your job becomes so much easier. Why would you change something that works, unless you have a way and can prove it (eg. through testing)? Why do you want to create more work for yourself?
I once had a boss that posted a note by the time clock that essentially stated that employees had to give a week notice if they plan to be sick. He had to take the note down after several employees sent in a leave of absence for the next week, siting they planned to have various illnesses, mostly the flu. Lol
Stories 4 & 5: These bosses just prove the truth of the phrase “You never know what you got till it’s gone”. Although in these cases, it’s more like “You never know who’s your best till you fire them”😂
My husband's boss which was the factory manager at a window making factory was sent overseas to study some of their procedures. Meanwhile, another guy was put in charge and between my husband (union rep) and the guy, they had the place humming and production was really great. They'd put in some new procedures that worked really well and everyone was really happy. Dingbat factory manager came back and found a well run factory. He didn't like that because he didn't implement it. Forced everyone to go back to what it was before and production took a nose dive. He got fired when the boss's daughter took over operations. Sadly my husband was retrenched well before that happened. But it was sweet to hear about it. 😄 3rd story. Where lives are at stake or people with mental or other disabilities are concerned, someone like Karen would have done a lot of damage in the time she was put in charge. It's a wonder nothing was done beforehand. How do they get to be put in charge in the first place?
in that last story, OP should not have forgiven Kyle. OP should have sued and pressed charges for criminal neglect and attempted murder. OP was denied water during life threatening conditions for them, and worked themselves into shock and almost died in at least 3 different ways.
Story2: I hate when people punish someone for not doing other people's jobs. My brother got fired for not doing someone else's job when he worked at Walmart. He did everything he was supposed to do and the other person didn't, but he got blamed for it. It's also why I always hated group projects in school. I was the one who had to do all the work but I had to let other people take credit (actually got in trouble for not writing names of other students who didn't participate- even though I told the teacher they refused to work on it & I had to do it by myself so they shouldn't get credit). It ended up biting them because he was the ONLY person there who knew how to properly shut down, turn on, and repair their photo machine in photo lab (something that was above his pay grade but he still did it). He got fired bc a manager didn't do the audits-- which was supposed to be done by morning shift. The glorious part was that the day after he was fired the photo machine broke down, no one knew how to fix it & it was down for 2 weeks before they had an outside person come in to fix it at $5k cost. Bc the idiots working there didn't know how to properly shut it down, it kept breaking so immediately after the fix it broke down again. It ended up costing them over $40k in repairs- not to mention the lost revenue from the downtime.
Coming in when you are really sick infects everyone in your work area😂 hence "Mr I haven't taken a sick day in 9 years" caught what he deserved. He was lucky the rest of his staff didn't all come down with the same thing and really shut his office down!😂
I'll never understand the concept of "sick days" in US labor laws. The company decides how many days per year you are allowed to be sick? Right... i'm sure the germs and viruses will say "oh, he has already used up his sick days, we better go infect someone else instead"
In my many jobs it eventually became obvious to my employers that I was one of those people who could do (well) almost anything they needed help on. I’ve repeatedly found myself buried under “special projects” and finding myself being given grief over not getting one thing or another done in a timely manner as various projects hit my desk at differing priority levels. When the griping gets to be ridiculous I tend to quit. Then I get multiple calls about what to do with …? One of my favorites was finding the company owners bitching that they had to hire FOUR people to try to fill my position and even then it wasn’t getting done. Now any time I’m talking to a potential employer I start by telling them that THEIR Problem is going to be deciding how to use me best … and requiring a specific written job description.
To be fair management may have known she’d mess up, and have enough dirt on her to finally fire her, or management could have just been incompetent, I’ve seen both.
Story 6: I deal with a similar problem with my body temperature. I don't know how he forced himself to comply. When my body starts to overheat and I don't see an end to it in sight, I start hysterically hyperventilating. I've come close one or two times to passing out. Thankfully it's never gotten as far as it did for OP.
Heat stroke is nothing to mess with. I've had 4, my body doesn't regulate temperature very well at all. I've been inside for the whole summer, with about 8 or 9 trips out, always in my air conditioned van because Houston this summer was over 100 more times than not. And I carry an insulated bottle with cool water in it everywhere I go. I'm surprised the guy didn't start tossing his cookies before he passed out, that and mental confusion are the way I usually find out I'm at the edge of heat stroke. My husband knows the signs, several of my friends do as well and I had to quit work due to the medical conditions that caused the body thermometer to basically stop working. I'm glad the boss had to pay for the guy's medical care, he also needed demoted or fired because the guy almost died.
I left one business, and found out they replaced me with three people. The owner had said, "I don't like signing your check. I am not getting my money's worth."
Some people are so detached from reality and/or just greedy, they don't even know a good employee when standing right in front of one and instead of saying "thank you for your good work" it is "I want more! More! More!!!" even though you already do over 100% of what is being payed for. Still not enough.
Lol I had this recently myself. I was told I was laid off by the end of the week, end of the week comes I cleared my stuff out and maybe an hour after being gone I get a call asking if they can hire me back. I felt like I was done so I refused. Apparently I was the other employees metric for how much bs to take because after I got laid off they had about 20 people across the state up and quit. Apparently enough to the fact that they now have to shut down operations across NY to save face. I don't know why but that made me feel powerful.
As someone who had a Mother with dementia, I appreciate that OP managed to screw over Karen successfully in the office setting (only) and avoided doing some malicious compliance that would have negatively impacted the PATIENTS too! Good job.
Man all those stories about sick days suck, meanwhile my boss told me the other week, hey most people don’t get sick that much, you can only carry over x amount of sick hours every year, so every couple months or so just, have a sick day 😂
Not all companies have sick days. I work for the railraod. We don't get sick days. Only vacation, 1 week of bank time and 1 personal day. All of which need a minimum 48 hours notice
"Companies have sick days" - Not in Germany. In Germany, a doctor decides if you are sick or not, and if you are sick, you stay home. The company has no say. The company is required by law to pay your salary for up to 7 weeks. Only if you are still sick after 7 weeks, your health insurance has to take over and pay 70% of your current salary. Your company can only refuse to pay if they can prove that you got sick on purpose or that your misbehavior is the reason you're still sick (e.g. you ignored your doctor's orders, didn't take prescribed medication, etc.). However, as the whole thing is associated with administrative effort, most companies have a voluntary regulation that if an employee does not feel well, they can simply stay at home as long as they give notice in the morning. Only if the absence exceeds 3 days must a certificate be presented, which doctors can also issue retrospectively, i.e. they can then date the start of the illness 3 days earlier.
Story 1- I can't be the only one who thinks OP might have given the boss whatever illness she had...especially since he wss the only one who got into her proximity....
I heard from people that my boss thought my uncle didn't die suddenly and I needed 2 days off to go to the funeral. My friend got so pissed at her she came in and showed the page I shared on my Facebook page about my uncle dying. It was horrible
No manager believes those types of stories. I had a lady tell me three weeks in a row that her baby was sick, we had even started collecting money after a similar Facebook post. It all ended up being BS. She wanted an extended vacation because someone had passed away months prior and she inherited about a months pay. I literally train my managers to not believe the stories. The stories don't matter, only the sick time protocols. It was satisfying to see that employee arrested for fraud though. She didn't think about the consequences of taking the money from the fund we gave her for her lie.
That lady probably gave her boss the cold/flu. In my workplace people get very angry with you if you come in sick as they do not want to get sick. It was pure karma.
First story: It's not about you being sick. HE never experienced it, so it can't possibly be real. I had a boss who thought those in our section with diabetes were making it all up, even though he was an M.S. in biochemistry. One day a doctor was meeting with our section, and Boss said, "I've got you now!! Doc, does diabetes make you trembly and thirsty, for REAL?" The doctor looked at him like something that just emerged from a rock and said, "Yeah....and then you pass out, then have seizures, AND THEN YOU DIE!!!" Never heard any more about it!
money can buy you anything
like M.S. in biochemistry
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Companies will fire executives like that because if an employee goes into a seizure or dies due to an agent who is a superior of the victim, the liability can be huge. Like 7 digits liability, huge fines and the lawyer fees and possible class action when the other employees hear about it.
Well he wasn't on the wrong track. Type 2 diabetes is a metabolic disease. Type 1 diabetes can be managed with diet. Diabetes is a disease that big pharmaceutical companies do not want to cure but treat.
@@bella-rolland, Especially when you go to Evergreen College in Wa. State. At this college there are no grades & you don’t even have to attend class believe it or not. At the end of each semester you just hand in an essay on what you learn to get a pass or fail. Many Rich people across the U.S. send their lazy kids there & they can Easily go to the internet & find someone smart that actually stayed in class & learned which they Pay for them to write an essay so they can pass class they’ve Never been to. Which means if you get a pass for your classes then you get your degree that you or your parents paid for someone else to do the work & come out of college knowing Nothing about your degree. I’ve worked with Several of these Evergreeners on State jobs that were Clueless!
Story 1: Gee I wonder where the big boss man could have picked up his lung infection from. If only there was some way to stop sick people from infecting everyone else...
Not even masks will, right? Lol. And when you're coughing up half a lung, a mask isn't compatible with life as we know it.
Oh, wait...
I dunno women lie constantly.
I don't believe it.
men can also lie as well....
There is. You stay home. V's don't stop transmission.
I remember a MC story where the boss either died or almost died after he forced OP to come to work sick, causing the entire office to get sick as well. That was some nuclear karma.
Holy crap, that sounds insane! I wish I could find the link for it
One of my bosses demands a coworker to come in, I went to get her for break to find her bent over a pallet truck. I said she shouldn’t be here. She did try to call off work but he insisted she come in. In the end she was out longer because she had forced herself to come in. Horrible person.
Thats was some *epidemic* karma
I think I remember that one!!
This is actually how I gave everyone in my department covid a week before the lockdown started. I was literally laying on the tables next to food in front of customers and felt like I was dying, but wasn't allowed to go home for three hours because the boss would rather have me coughing and dry heaving on the food than be down one out of five workers that day.
Any manager that refuses to allow a worker to get water when it's too hot should have been fired.
Too light a punishment.
@@JamesDavy2009 agreed
Any manager that refuses to allow a worker to get water -when it's too hot- should have been fired.
@@bella-rolland true
In my country, employers have to provide water for free to their employees when a certain temperature is reached. If they don't, they go to jail.
Final Story - That idiot Kyle should’ve lost his position and been suspended without pay. Even if OP didn’t have a medical condition, heat stroke is not something to joke about or take lightly.
Also what OP did was risky and stupid.
This is an issue about which the notification to O.S.H.A. would be warranted.
Story 4: Imagine being so insecure that you get rid of your best employee , causing them to create a competitor and steamroll you as a result
It's not even just that. it's the fact that he made his own worst fears come true
@@logansraya self fulfilling prophecy
When ego gets in the way of actually making money.
This was my story. I just showed my dad. It took him 2 minutes to stop laughing.
I can relate with that story, my dad used to be a business partner with this guy who owned 2 big clothing manufacturing companies in LA, but my dad’s always been a charismatic salesman with over 20yrs of technical knowledge and experience of the entire process, while the other guy was more of a desk guy who didn’t like to associate himself with the employees or clients.
Long story short he ended up backstabbing my dad after he got him big designer brands as clients and didn’t give him his part of the profit, so my dad walked out on him and took everything he contributed to the business, and since the guy never dealt with any of the groundwork stuff he lost the most talented employees, the entire denim and wash house section and the big brands, he ended up closing that business because he stopped making a profit and only kept a dye house with a finishing department. Years later my dad’s even branched out to the international market and opened a bog manufacturer in Mexico.
Sometimes these assholes do us a favor by forcing us out of our current situation I’ve come to find.
PSA for that last story: Heatstroke is a very real thing that can happen to anyone if they let themselves get too hot. People who didn't have pre-existing health conditions have died from heatstroke - not from being in conditions where passing out is potentially lethal, but just from the effects of the heatstroke. If you're working in a particularly hot place, or carrying out strenuous physical activity, make sure to hydrate regularly and ensure that you're able to cool down if you need to.
For real, any of the heat stress illnesses are not a fun time. Had a bad case of heat syncope back in the peak of summer this year and I was stuck hugging a bag of ice and puking every half hour for about 9 hours, it's not a fun time. If you feel like you're starting to overheat, and especially if you stop sweating, find some shade and room temperature water (ice can shock your system and make things worse) and take as long as you need to cool down again.
I realized I wasn't drinking enough water when I started showing signs of a potential heat stroke during a field trip. Luckily my professor noticed and had one of the TAs help me carry some of my stuff (I tend to bring a lot with me) so I could drink from my water bottle before it got worse.
It is actually illegal to deny your employees sick day because it violates the health and safety standard laws. OP should report the manager to HR.
If this happened, the boss would need to provide HR with all the personal protection gear they need. Never happen. ;-)
It's fake lol
@@bigb878 Although, whether if the story is true or not but employers still need to allow sick days due to the act of health and safety.
Yes with these stories about CEOs and managers and all that does sound a little fictional. Especially that one story where op left and suddenly the former company went into bankruptcy. Sounds like a skit from Apple Text.
Legality of it does not stop employers from trying it nor from employees from falling for it.
Yeah, it is super fake. Like cmon, the guy is the only one sick despite interacting with just as much as the coworkers that only existed to high five OP?
Firing someone because you are afraid they're gunning for your job is Cornelius Fudge levels of "logic" lol
Not to mention grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit.
And thanks to your decisions, that very thing ends up happening.
@@Dahaka-rd6tw"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."
-Master Oogway
This is literally why middle management does half of what they do.
Most of these malicious compliance stories can be summed up with this:
"Congratulations. You just played yourself."
Most of them can be summed up easier than that with "Completely fabricated, or massively embellished, because the poster wants attention."
@@fomori2I’m pretty sure at least a decent chunk of the stories have at least some truth to them. Though I would expect a solid amount of embellishment in the average story.
@@fomori2 funny enough a lot of these stories aren't as far fetched as you might think because humans ARE in fact this stupid sometimes. you just haven't been witnesss to a lot of these to which you should thank whatever lucky star you are born under.
I CAN say i have seen personally a locally known lady try to bring her 'service dog' in to a restaurant, that i worked for at this time, in a pink shaded baby stroller. (a chihuahua as i recall. this incident happened at least 5 years ago.) She made a minor scene despite sitting middle of a section in a restaurant during busy period being stared at by at least half the patrons. naturally her and her friend were surprised when the evening manager came out and ask them to leave. there was relatively little drama about it...but still pretty wild. Before you ask no the dog had no vest and no documentation. both required. I found out a couple days later through a couple conversations that she was known for pulling that stunt so she was fairly well recognized at every establishment or store that had to throw her out.
I've told at least one of my bosses at one of my past jobs that if anyone ever questioned if I was actually sick, I'll come in, and vomit on their desk as proof. I don't take sick days because I don't want to go to work, I take sick days because I don't want to pass what I have to others or cause injury to myself or others because of me being medicated
If I say I'm sick, I'm sick. If I say I'm not feeling well, I might be sick, might just be my dinner disagreeing with me, but I'd rather not risk it (assuming I'm calling in)
If I say I just... can't... I'm probably depressed and desperately need some emotional sunshine, and work is unlikely to provide it. If I'm suffering from allergies to the point that people are asking if I'm sick, Might consider calling out because that much misery is not good for customer service. If I'm not customer facing, I'd come in, though, I would just need a box of tissues and some lozenges, plus water...
@@JanMaynz Water!? Not until your coffee break! 😂
where do you live that being sick is questioned? If you are sick with a doctor’s note it is proof enough
I just got this wierd idea about all those American zombie movies. What if the apocalypse came because someone insisted that infectees all came back to work? Oh, wow.
I mean if someone tried that on me id just be like im not coming in and you can fire me if you like. and if they fired me id be hired in .5 seconds in one of the THOUSAND lawn companies that are understaffed. Lawn care might not be the greatest job ever but since an overwhelming majority of people hate the work im quite secure in my job.
Story 1: Boss could have caused an immuno-compromised person some serious problems by having OP expose everyone with a lung infection.
The world does not owe immunocompromised people special treatment.
@@dcg590 owe? Maybe not, but taking basic steps to protect their lives, they have more to give. It's a good investment.
Story 3. A boss like Karen will blame all her failures on her workers and even try to get their State and professional certifications pulled out of spite and evilness. As soon as you recognize this kind of boss, leave immediately! Even if you don't have another job lined up. Better some hard months of eating ramon looking for a job, than having your certs pulled and having to find an entire new field of work.
Can't agree more. It might be worth sticking around for a month, but beyond that...
I currently work with this kind of boss... however, I've got a few layers of protection(including two District managers being willing to come to my defense and attempt to open up a place for me). I do have a job lining up. And the entire thing will crumble around my new boss, as I'm the only reason three(out of four) employees have even stayed as long as they have. He's only been in charge for the past two and a half months.
@@christsdisciple3105 Manglers don't need a lot of time to mangle everything around them. It's what they do, and the Only thing they are good at.
Story 3: "In My Book, Experience Outranks Everything." Rex, Star Wars the Clone Wars. Amazing how often stupid upper management can brings down entire companies down.
My experience is that it's self-protecting middle management that causes all the problems; insulate the boss from reality, exist only to perpetuate themselves, resist information and change from below, absorb huge amounts of pay and time better spent on people creating value... etc.
So true, also love that moment cause it so clearly established both of the characters and their dynamic of mutal respect.having her immedietly der to him and ambiguous to earn his respect in turn
Story 1: i have heard this story several timesand everytime i say the same thìngs, so i'm gonna say it here as well: Don't take lung infections lighty. They are deadly and OP didn't "look like they're fighting for their life" they were fighting for their life.
A coworker of mine died due to it, he was 25.
Take it seriously.
If you cought for a week and it isn't getting better, see a doctor. While not common, lung infections don't have to come with a fever (same for other infections)
Just said my final goodbye to a longtime friend that had developed such an infection that had grown into a golf ball sized nodule of bacteria in one lung. He was told they had one chance to clear it out with a strong antibiotic, but the nodule was large enough that there was a significant risk that it would fail. As my friend was already struggling with the long term effects of having smoked since high school, he opted for hospice care at home. 😕
@@Renville80 i'm so sorry to hear that, i hope you will be well and rest in piece to your friend
I’m so sorry for your loss. Xoxo
Story 3: What was Karen expecting to happen? She makes the whole place miserable just because "I'm the boss and I'll run the place the way I want to" and she eventually got fired for it because one of her changes was not liked by her boss
They never learn, that's how they get fired. It's the "My way or the highway" mentality.
She wasn't. She was Doing. That's how morons do life.
@@JadenYukifan28yup
These people don't have the ability to understand. They view ANY contradictory opinion as a personal assault. They are BEYOND insecure.
Honestly She shoulda been fired LONG before for hiring unqualified people
Story 4 - That’s poetic justice. OP gets fired by an incompetent boss only to do much better for himself and his former boss loses everything. What an idiot.
Story 1: "Yes, and how many *personal* days have you taken?"
Story 2: I would have refused to sign any write up.
Story 3: Report her to the Dept. of Labor for threats, and send CC to the owners AND shareholders.
Second story - exactly what I was thinking.
I had a review that said I didn’t get along with the other employees. I was a senior manager over accounting, payroll and HR. I looked after the employees. I asked for where that came from and the reply was he had heard stuff. I refused to sign since gossip is not a basis for review. It was removed. If they said members (golf club) that would have been fine I was always ruining their fun 🤣 (by doing my job)
*Story 1-* That's the same with my hubby!!! My hubby never gets sick. But, when he gets sick, *he's sick!* The year we got married, he caught someoething. He was sweating, had a feaver, and it was so bad I had to sleep on the couch because he wanted to cuddle (because he was cold) but he was wet from the sweat! I told him he had to stay home, but he kept denying that he was sick. He kept going, but you could tell he was in pain! Finally, *his mom* pointed out that he was sick, so he stayed home the next day!
*It turns out the reason he kept going to work was because his boss was a jerk and would yell at him if he didn't come in!* Luckily, that dude doesn't work there anymore!
Story 3: You know, as a rule of thumb, Nurse Ratched was *not* meant to be a role model.
Story 4: oh, the irony... boss fires the guy out of fear of being replaced, and ends up causing said guy to replace him anyway.
I love those stories where people try to prevent something from happening, only for their actions to be the trigger that causes that thing to happen.
Story 5: Too bad OP didn't sue. It would've been a slam dunk.
Dr. Phil says "You create what you fear."
@@leslieturcotte1008 I didn't create criminally stupid people!
“One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”
~Master Oogway from Kung Fu Panda
Reminds me of Greek comedy. I think it was Oedipus who ended up marrying his mother and killing his father because his father father threw him away as a baby to prevent it from happening.
I am not so much of a fan of the trope because of it
@@LegendStormcrow You are very well read & intelligent too! 😃
Before retiring I had a construction company, I supplied ice and water for the guys when it started to get hot. I had fans near the work area and would have them take breaks as needed. Never had anyone get sick or pass out from the heat, it was far cheaper to keep them healthy than to have to pay for hospitalization or their death.
Ex-Boss: OMG, Please come back, I'm sorry...
Me: NO! [blocks number, then spends the next 10 minutes laughing my butt off]...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
As I said in my comment, Poetic Justice.😂
Story three:
That idiot boss really shoulda been arrested for attempted MURDER with that insanity.
Story 3 - Leave it to an unqualified power hungry Karen to screw up a functioning work environment only to get justifiably fired.
As you’ve mentioned before, ‘People like that SHOULD NOT be in a position of power’
I and others of the qualified staff just abandoned ship moments after the boss anounced that his daughter (spoiled princess) got control of the "wheelhouse"😁
The only people who should be in positions of power are the ones who don't want to be in positions of power. People should really vet those in power and test them to see if they actually are a decent fit to BE in a position of power. The ones who would actually get the job done and ethically too and can actually lead and don't want the job are the ones who are the best fit.
That's the Peter Principle for you.
'No-one, and I mean NO-ONE that seeks power, especially petty power, should EVER be permitted any'.
There must be a numerical system in place for every function, and month-long training sessions for everybody in any role they can perform, and ALL of those roles must be fulfilled before anyone can be promoted into a position f responsibility.
- and it MUST be temporary. Rotate proven leaders through other similar roles (in an organised manner, so that everyone knows what's happening well before) until they have gathered the knowledge needed to take on more responsibility (NOT power).
- and ALL people must be paid based upon proven performance at every step.
Tell that to every cop in the US
Story 1: if you haven’t taken a sick day in 9 years and boast about it, especially if you’ve gotten sick in those 9 years and came in anyway, it goes to show that you are a slave to your work.
Personal safety and well-being over your work, period
2nd story: so the boss is to lazy to yell at one of her employees for not doing their job but not to lazy to yell at her employees who is doing their job. And now she can't write op up cause, she did exactly what she told her to do.
Basic lesson: It you suggest to someone that they quit, expect them to do so and be prepared for that outcome...if you aren't prepared for that, don't tell them to quit!
the last op was insane! Imagine nearly dying bc your boss won't let you get water and he doesn't even get fired?
Final story: my daughter has a similar condition. She cannot regulate her temperature so she has to wear a special vest lined with pockets to keep ice packs in so she doesn't over heat. OP could have caused serious harm to himself just to teach some jerk a lesson, not cool OP
Yeah, that was a totally stupid move on OP's part. Kyle should be fired for putting an employee at risk, and OP should be fired for playing a lethal game.
OP was an idiot. I get the boss was wrong(and should have probably been fired) but OP could have killed himself.
Brother was in complete spite mode.
“Not cool OP”. I see what you did there.
@@mjjoe76 😂🤣 totally did not do that on purpose.
The "Boss-Karen" in the third story made it into a "swedish" home for the elderly. In Sweden, profit is all that matters and government turns a blind eye to malpractice and abuse as long as the costs are low.
Ohhhh...now I understand ikea
@@pamcolding4279 "IKEA-ll you!" -Achmed the Dead Terrorist
Story 4: Good news, he didn't lose his job to the guy, he just lost all his employees to him.
Story 6: Everyone should be allowed to have water at work, regardless of health or weather conditions. Denying that is just stupid.
In a job like that, the company should have provided camel-bak systems or equivalent for all workers.
OP was stupid! When Kyle told him to get back to work, he should have told Kyle that his body doesn't deal with heat well due to a Medical Condition and he's at risk of Heat Stroke so either Kyle gets out of his way or he calls the Health Department and a Lawyer to Sue Kyle and if I DO get Heat Stroke, he'll also call the Police to have Kyle ARRESTED for Criminal Negligence causing Bodily Harm...
I would have...in fact, when Kyle tried to stop me from getting water, I'd have told him to get out of my way and gone to get the water, then go to the Boss to Report Kyle for Endangering my Health and Life and Politely tell Boss that either he hammers Kyle or I call the Government (OSHA, Health and Labour) and a Lawyer for the lack of accessible water in a Hot Working Environment which I can guarantee is a Violation of Health and Labour Laws...
Story 1 - I love bosses that decide they are a doctor and order you in to work. "Ok boss, I'll come in. Do you mind if I bring someone from the medical board with me?" and if asked why "Well, you are claiming to be a doctor by saying you decided if I am sick or not, but if you dont have a medical degree, then you dont have that authority." I honestly wouldnt care if I was fired, but I'd sure made sure that it was publicly known that my old boss was trying to act like he had a medical degree.
The job I held had a policy, where if you called out sick for 3 days or more you needed a Dr’s note. I became ill once with a respiratory illness, when I called out sick for the 2nd day in a row, my supervisor told me was sounding better so he expected me to come in the next day. So I did, I stayed for about 4 hrs, doing absolutely no work while I coughed and sneezed. I then went home sick. I was out sick for the next two days. Since I wasn’t out for 3 full days, he couldn’t demand a Dr’s note.
Big brain
Story 3: Karen isn't even qualified to work in a graveyard.
Karen in an incare hospice place? Good Lord Almight......... you're there to take care of these people and make sure their days are as great as humanly possible.
You would be very sad to know how many people completely unsuited to the "caring industries" actually get into them.
@@Kayenne54 like the while never go inside the kitchen in a restaurant cause you won't like what you see.
@@TheDarkLink7 Ohhh yes. We're a trusting lot, aren't we? lol
@@Kayenne54 it's why it took me three ish years to get away from "friend" who is a crackhead manipulating gaslighter.
I remember reading the last story, and it didn't end there, OP gave an update, though I don't remember exactly what it was, just that the company was placed under some sort of strict new rules due to him almost getting killed.
OSHA should have been informed of this incident. I'm sure if they had inspected the facility, it would have cost that company THOUSANDS of dollars to being everything up to FEDERAL SAFTEY CODE.
First story: notice how bosses just ignore that sick employees may not even be able to drive? So, not only are other employees can get sick, but others on the road are in danger.
I worked for a Dunkin Donuts for 2 years, 12 a.m. to 6 a.m., 7 days a week. I took 2 days off in that 2 years, one for a wedding, and one because I was sick. I stopped by the shop, I called the manager, and told her I had viral pneumonia, and I should NOT be around food or customers. She made me wait for her, so I sat down at a table. As soon as she saw me, coughing, sneezing, fluids running all over my face, she finally believed me. She called in 3 people and herself for my shift, that I did by myself every night. She appreciated me much more after that, as she told me she didn't know how I got all the work done by myself. On my way out, she went behind the counter and told the person working to grab the sanitizer and wipe down the table and all the door handles, and anything else I was near or touched immediately. At least she had some smarts!
Last story: OP is like, I'm going to die to put my idiot boss in his place. Instead of risking my life, I would have gone to HR and filed a complaint against the boss for violating workplace safety and employee health conditions. Also, he ended the story with a passive aggressive joke to the apologizing boss...No, if you're foolish enough to risk your own life to show up a cruel boss, then you need to follow it up with at least a lawsuit against them. You might not win because of your own negligence in regards to your health, but at least you'll get the point across.
The problem with that is most millennials don't have enough money to file a lawsuit against whoever. All of the older people know this too.
HR is not on your side. There is a chance they would side with boss if they don't see a potential threat
Story #6: I have a medical condition that causes the same thing. It's called Malignant Hyperthermia... It's not fun. 80 degrees in the direct sun for just 10 minutes and I start experiencing heat stroke symptoms. Above 90, I can't be in the sun for more than about 5 minutes. 100+, I can't be outside.
The problem is with some bosses that the most capable eployees often look like they are doing the least work. And bosses like that need to see everyone working hard all the time or they think they're slacking off, usually because they would be slacking off themselves.
That last story had me in stitches because of a good memory watching this same thing happen in a bar once. 😂
Heatstroke really is no joke I know from experience and I'm never making the same mistake again (I was 16, now 17 and that happened 3 months ago)
Worked for an office manager whose rule was, "If you wake up sick, call and let us know the night before." That's verbatim from the office manual.
Last story: I will never, EVER understand why bosses do not think of the basic human freaking right to have water/drink to keep hydrated. Last I checked, we're humans, not sand gazelles!
Bosses see employees as cogs in a machine instead of living breathing people.
@@JamesDavy2009 Depends on the boss.
Story 6. I'd go anyhow for the water. Screw that manager
Story 3. Just go to a higher up or HR. Screw that crap.
The last story: I believe OP has an air tight case for a lawsuit against the manager and the company he works for.
OP was stupid. The boss was wrong but OP intentionally harmed himself.
Not really. Also, "Kyle" would not be liable for medical costs. You would have to sue for that; this falls under workers comp.
Also pretty sure it's illegal to keep an employee from getting water.
@@NamiTheNeko In the country I live in, it absolutely is. Also when conditions are that hot, employers are required to take steps to allow for employee cooling.
@nickandres7829 I live in California and it's the same here. It can get over 110° Fahrenheit. Employers have to allow outdoor workers to take a minimum 5 minute break somewhere cool whenever they need it and have to supply water.
Story 6.. Get the water anyway, ask him to put down that "getting water when overheating is forbidden" in writing
Story 6: Besides the glaring human rights violations, if you are in danger of dying without getting the water, then that's also a lawsuit in the making. Good job, I'll, you're going to cost your company who knows how much money..
I took a employment class once, and the teacher asked what was the most important benefit a company needs to have. After writing several answers down, healthcare, paid time off, etc. After we couldn’t think of any more, he told us we had forgotten the most important benefit there is, a great boss. No matter what job you have, if you have a lousy boss, every day will be miserable, and you’ll end up hating your job.
Story 4: That's my dad. Too old to run his company directly anymore, but he has solid second and third-in-commands who run the business well.
And no, I'm not following in my dad's footsteps because I'm too clumsy and power tools scare the shit outta me.
I agree with DarkFluff on the last one that it was a risky move, BUT I also think it speaks to corporate culture that someone has to risk their health to prove they have health issues.
Im a lead at my Job. We frequently tell the employees. "You don't need to tell us why you are calling out sick, just tell us you are using a sick leave, and for how many days. We don't want to hear a obvious lie on the phone. Just tell us your not going to be in, if you don't have the sick time, you can use a vacation day instead, however you will be pointed for not having enough sick time."
We have a point system, where if you earn 13 points in a rolling 6 month period, you may be terminated. at 7 and 10 points, you are given a step 1 and 2 respectively. Those are just write ups with the level indicating the seriousness and fall off after 6 months.
Story 6: I figure their options were to either try to stave off heat stroke long enough to make it to their break or force it to show the boss what happens. I would've chosen the latter too
Story 3: sounds like it would've been a good idea to make Karen "vanish", long before she got fired
Take her out to Local Lake for some night boating? With concrete shoes?
Second story. . . Boss insists that OP writes a report for the other section. .
The repoert I would write. . "Machine broken. Product fucked up. . I'm not from that section so I don't know why or how it fucked up"
As a manager, you ABSOLUTELY want employees that work well, so that your job becomes so much easier. Why would you change something that works, unless you have a way and can prove it (eg. through testing)? Why do you want to create more work for yourself?
I once had a boss that posted a note by the time clock that essentially stated that employees had to give a week notice if they plan to be sick. He had to take the note down after several employees sent in a leave of absence for the next week, siting they planned to have various illnesses, mostly the flu. Lol
Such illogical framing. No sane person _plans_ to be sick, it just happens.
@JamesDavy2009 yeah. It was my first job and it wasn't staffed with the best or brightest.
People don't quit Jobs they Quit Bad Bosses
Story 5 - Some people are just arrogantly stupid. Or maybe they get some sick pleasure in firing people because they can. Who knows.
"companies have sick days for a reason" shaking my head in European. Just the concept of you get so many sick days disregards what sickness is.
Stories 4 & 5: These bosses just prove the truth of the phrase “You never know what you got till it’s gone”. Although in these cases, it’s more like “You never know who’s your best till you fire them”😂
My husband's boss which was the factory manager at a window making factory was sent overseas to study some of their procedures. Meanwhile, another guy was put in charge and between my husband (union rep) and the guy, they had the place humming and production was really great. They'd put in some new procedures that worked really well and everyone was really happy. Dingbat factory manager came back and found a well run factory. He didn't like that because he didn't implement it. Forced everyone to go back to what it was before and production took a nose dive. He got fired when the boss's daughter took over operations. Sadly my husband was retrenched well before that happened. But it was sweet to hear about it. 😄
3rd story. Where lives are at stake or people with mental or other disabilities are concerned, someone like Karen would have done a lot of damage in the time she was put in charge. It's a wonder nothing was done beforehand. How do they get to be put in charge in the first place?
People who can't keep their own egos in check are the worst. And oh god is it so much worse when they get the smallest amount of power.
in that last story, OP should not have forgiven Kyle. OP should have sued and pressed charges for criminal neglect and attempted murder. OP was denied water during life threatening conditions for them, and worked themselves into shock and almost died in at least 3 different ways.
I’ve always said that a good business runs like a ship. A happy crew means a happy successful ship. Treat your crew well and the ship sails itself.
You'd think that taking no sick days in 9 years would prove that when she did, it was serious.
That Karen boss learned this lesson the hard way: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Story2: I hate when people punish someone for not doing other people's jobs. My brother got fired for not doing someone else's job when he worked at Walmart. He did everything he was supposed to do and the other person didn't, but he got blamed for it. It's also why I always hated group projects in school. I was the one who had to do all the work but I had to let other people take credit (actually got in trouble for not writing names of other students who didn't participate- even though I told the teacher they refused to work on it & I had to do it by myself so they shouldn't get credit). It ended up biting them because he was the ONLY person there who knew how to properly shut down, turn on, and repair their photo machine in photo lab (something that was above his pay grade but he still did it). He got fired bc a manager didn't do the audits-- which was supposed to be done by morning shift. The glorious part was that the day after he was fired the photo machine broke down, no one knew how to fix it & it was down for 2 weeks before they had an outside person come in to fix it at $5k cost. Bc the idiots working there didn't know how to properly shut it down, it kept breaking so immediately after the fix it broke down again. It ended up costing them over $40k in repairs- not to mention the lost revenue from the downtime.
Coming in when you are really sick infects everyone in your work area😂 hence "Mr I haven't taken a sick day in 9 years" caught what he deserved. He was lucky the rest of his staff didn't all come down with the same thing and really shut his office down!😂
I'll never understand the concept of "sick days" in US labor laws.
The company decides how many days per year you are allowed to be sick?
Right... i'm sure the germs and viruses will say "oh, he has already used up his sick days, we better go infect someone else instead"
In my many jobs it eventually became obvious to my employers that I was one of those people who could do (well) almost anything they needed help on.
I’ve repeatedly found myself buried under “special projects” and finding myself being given grief over not getting one thing or another done in a timely manner as various projects hit my desk at differing priority levels.
When the griping gets to be ridiculous I tend to quit.
Then I get multiple calls about what to do with …?
One of my favorites was finding the company owners bitching that they had to hire FOUR people to try to fill my position and even then it wasn’t getting done.
Now any time I’m talking to a potential employer I start by telling them that THEIR Problem is going to be deciding how to use me best … and requiring a specific written job description.
When a biss calks people useless, this is almost always self projecting.
1) LOL, so much justice with obnoxious boss getting what he deserved.
2) Glad this worked out the way it did.
To be fair management may have known she’d mess up, and have enough dirt on her to finally fire her, or management could have just been incompetent, I’ve seen both.
Story 6: I deal with a similar problem with my body temperature. I don't know how he forced himself to comply. When my body starts to overheat and I don't see an end to it in sight, I start hysterically hyperventilating. I've come close one or two times to passing out. Thankfully it's never gotten as far as it did for OP.
Story 2: I would not of signed the write up if is clearly stated that the report wasn’t yours to do and taken it over your bosses head.
I was about to make food and was looking for stories to listen to then i get notified for this one. 10/10 timing on that lol
When he said he could decide if I’m sick. I would have asked where he got his medical degree from
Heat stroke is nothing to mess with. I've had 4, my body doesn't regulate temperature very well at all. I've been inside for the whole summer, with about 8 or 9 trips out, always in my air conditioned van because Houston this summer was over 100 more times than not. And I carry an insulated bottle with cool water in it everywhere I go. I'm surprised the guy didn't start tossing his cookies before he passed out, that and mental confusion are the way I usually find out I'm at the edge of heat stroke. My husband knows the signs, several of my friends do as well and I had to quit work due to the medical conditions that caused the body thermometer to basically stop working. I'm glad the boss had to pay for the guy's medical care, he also needed demoted or fired because the guy almost died.
I left one business, and found out they replaced me with three people.
The owner had said, "I don't like signing your check. I am not getting my money's worth."
Some people are so detached from reality and/or just greedy, they don't even know a good employee when standing right in front of one and instead of saying "thank you for your good work" it is "I want more! More! More!!!" even though you already do over 100% of what is being payed for. Still not enough.
4:18 that write-up would be breaking the rules and would be decent evidence for potential false termination.
Lol I had this recently myself. I was told I was laid off by the end of the week, end of the week comes I cleared my stuff out and maybe an hour after being gone I get a call asking if they can hire me back. I felt like I was done so I refused. Apparently I was the other employees metric for how much bs to take because after I got laid off they had about 20 people across the state up and quit. Apparently enough to the fact that they now have to shut down operations across NY to save face. I don't know why but that made me feel powerful.
Story 4: One often meets his destiny on the road he hates to avoid it.
the concept of "sick days" still baffles me.
The last story is about a manager becoming a stupid monster. You can't deny anyone a sip of water.
As someone who had a Mother with dementia, I appreciate that OP managed to screw over Karen successfully in the office setting (only) and avoided doing some malicious compliance that would have negatively impacted the PATIENTS too!
Good job.
A smart boss gives the person doing other ppls work a raise
Man all those stories about sick days suck, meanwhile my boss told me the other week, hey most people don’t get sick that much, you can only carry over x amount of sick hours every year, so every couple months or so just, have a sick day 😂
Not all companies have sick days. I work for the railraod. We don't get sick days. Only vacation, 1 week of bank time and 1 personal day. All of which need a minimum 48 hours notice
"Companies have sick days" - Not in Germany. In Germany, a doctor decides if you are sick or not, and if you are sick, you stay home. The company has no say. The company is required by law to pay your salary for up to 7 weeks. Only if you are still sick after 7 weeks, your health insurance has to take over and pay 70% of your current salary. Your company can only refuse to pay if they can prove that you got sick on purpose or that your misbehavior is the reason you're still sick (e.g. you ignored your doctor's orders, didn't take prescribed medication, etc.). However, as the whole thing is associated with administrative effort, most companies have a voluntary regulation that if an employee does not feel well, they can simply stay at home as long as they give notice in the morning. Only if the absence exceeds 3 days must a certificate be presented, which doctors can also issue retrospectively, i.e. they can then date the start of the illness 3 days earlier.
Story 1- I can't be the only one who thinks OP might have given the boss whatever illness she had...especially since he wss the only one who got into her proximity....
I heard from people that my boss thought my uncle didn't die suddenly and I needed 2 days off to go to the funeral. My friend got so pissed at her she came in and showed the page I shared on my Facebook page about my uncle dying. It was horrible
No manager believes those types of stories. I had a lady tell me three weeks in a row that her baby was sick, we had even started collecting money after a similar Facebook post. It all ended up being BS. She wanted an extended vacation because someone had passed away months prior and she inherited about a months pay. I literally train my managers to not believe the stories. The stories don't matter, only the sick time protocols. It was satisfying to see that employee arrested for fraud though. She didn't think about the consequences of taking the money from the fund we gave her for her lie.
That lady probably gave her boss the cold/flu. In my workplace people get very angry with you if you come in sick as they do not want to get sick. It was pure karma.
The rest of the world: "Standards are good."
Some bosses: "Double standards is twice as good."
S3: The boss that hired the Karen should be fired.
Got a question for ya: when are these knuckleheaded “bosses” gonna learn that KARMA doesn’t have an expiration date?
On the 13th of Never.