As you said max metric horsepower at the crank for an A2 license is 35kW or 47.6hp ,, but there is also a power to weight ratio of 0.272 hp/kg which says that if you got 47.6hp you need to have a bike with a wet weight of 175kg.. This bikes weigh dry 159kg,, so with a full tank and full oil 175kg would be right at that mark..
The Ninja 400 only has 45hp in Europe, because it is too light, the Aprilia has the maximum hp with the lowest possible weight, so the website is right. So no the regulations didn‘t change, the Ninja from the US wouldn‘t be legal for A2 in Europe.
@@SSPENGUIN1Yeah there are a lot of rules. But for once I agree with these motorcycle license rules. I am just started taking lessons so in one sense it sucks that I can’t get a more powerful bike when I get my license. But I really understand why the rules are the way they are.
When you consider what the KTM, Duke 390 did for them in terms of sales in India. Then this bike could be an absolute game changer for a aprilia. Considering it's manufactured in India like the ktm. If you look at the sales numbers, the Duke saved that company. It literally put them on the map.
The Ninja 500 is coming next year, which is actually a 450 as well. Its basically just the old engine with a bit more stroke. Still no upside down forks.
It weighs 385lbs wet here in the UK with 47bhp ( set for A2 euro licences ) so 19lbs heavier than the Ninja400. By the marketing it seems they are getting the best ratio claims by pushing it as sports bike, although anyone can tell by looking at the bars that its a city/street bike.
Wonder if some folks are being too hasty with skepticism. Seems like the rs 457 HP is being artificially limited for street. Holding back the torque figures is interesting... suspect they might be higher than the Ninja 400. Working through the consequences of that for a track engine map is exciting. Aprilia did a great job of distilling the rsv4 down to the rs660 with street usability. If they can do the same from the 650 to the 457, it could be a great 'in-family' bike. Seems too like they tried to take all of the 'best' aspects of the RC390, Ninja 400, Yammie R3 & CFMoto 450ss into the rs457. Build quality & reliability is another story, though.
4:54 well 2023 ninja 400 makes 44,8hp not 48 and the actual 457 hp is 47,8 so I guess it has more power... The power to weight ratio is another story tho...
Shirt 19 is the type of dude to only go off the trend and get the fastest bikes and call it practicality. At least the other dude has taste and real eye catchers
Superb video, I wanted to know one thing, I'm hesitating between the RS 457 and the RS 450, which is the most comfortable and which is the lower of the two because I have a small height of 1 meter 67, thank you
Since the Ninja 400 is a sports touring style wouldn't the 457 with the super sport style be more in competition with the ZX-4RR even though the ZX is a 4 cylinder? Bet you the price would be on par with the ZX-4 lol
No ninja 400 is not a sports touring bike. It is a sports bike. That's why there used a track everywhere. The 457 interms of engine with the 270 degree crank is closest to the cfmoto but will still compete with the ninja 400 and r3 and rc390. The price will only be a bit higher over a ninja 500 and r3. It won't be anywhere near zx4rr prices
Both ninja 400 and rs 457 at stock dont have committed ergonomics make its sports tourer rather than sports bike. zx-4r/4rr is pure track bike. You can make these sports tourers to sports for racing by doing modifications.
It's in the same class as the ninja 400. But I think since it's an Aprilia it will likely cost a couple thousand more than the ninja 400 but be less than the zx4rr.
the 457 tires simply look way too small in the pics. IDK what size they are but they look like 17's would have been better? Also the rear swing arm looks awful tiny compared to the massive front end area around the motor. I think thats why it kinda looks spindly in the back end too
have no issue with my brand new RS660 except for strong vibrations around 7000rpm. Plastic creaking moinse so bad, makes me crazy. Already making me regret not buying Yamaha.
If I could only have a 1 bike stable, it would have to be the 3rd gen busa. I’m not a track guy but I’d want a bike that’s fast and fun, something easy to find parts for, and it’s comfortable.
I'm REALLY interested in the baby ape for a track bike, but I have some questions about GP shift and what it does with a tune + pipe. All of the apes look the same, people always think my tuono v4 is a 600 till it starts. My '19 tuono needs rearsets for GP, can't just flip the linkage because of frame clearance..... I'm curious to see how much of the electronics are hidden behind dealer tools as well, last thing I want is a track bike that I can't work on easily. I won't be an early adopter, but I'll watch the forums and look for a salvage title on marketplace ;)
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Yammy they just came out time to revisit the review
As you said max metric horsepower at the crank for an A2 license is 35kW or 47.6hp ,, but there is also a power to weight ratio of 0.272 hp/kg which says that if you got 47.6hp you need to have a bike with a wet weight of 175kg.. This bikes weigh dry 159kg,, so with a full tank and full oil 175kg would be right at that mark..
He won't care about covering such topics, cause he doesn't care about 90% of the audience.
true
The Ninja 400 only has 45hp in Europe, because it is too light, the Aprilia has the maximum hp with the lowest possible weight, so the website is right.
So no the regulations didn‘t change, the Ninja from the US wouldn‘t be legal for A2 in Europe.
why not just, tune the ninja after you buy it? illegally yes, but whatever
@IanMurray-zq3uf
Because Europeans LOVE regulations, can't get enough of them.
@@SSPENGUIN1Yeah there are a lot of rules. But for once I agree with these motorcycle license rules. I am just started taking lessons so in one sense it sucks that I can’t get a more powerful bike when I get my license. But I really understand why the rules are the way they are.
In the EU (which is target market for these bikes) the Ninja 400 has 44 bhp to comply with law.
Man, I’m looking to get my first bike next year. Maybe the 457 will be a good option!
just get the ninja!
Nah man. Get the CFMoto 450SR-S. In the US its the SSS maybe….😅
@@SoulTouchMusic93Top Speed????
@@WisdomOverWicked777Rules200-210 kmph
TURBOBUSA BRUH!!!
When you consider what the KTM, Duke 390 did for them in terms of sales in India. Then this bike could be an absolute game changer for a aprilia. Considering it's manufactured in India like the ktm. If you look at the sales numbers, the Duke saved that company. It literally put them on the map.
This guest so negative. Guy prob never even built a bike or an engine.
The Ninja 500 is coming next year, which is actually a 450 as well. Its basically just the old engine with a bit more stroke. Still no upside down forks.
"I don't see why Kawasaki would need to change the 400 to compete" and then immediately says "the frame is just okay"
I love this idea of the aprillia 457 because i really like these bikes and the best looking.
It's gonna be my 1st bike
A new 399cc RC390 is under development currently
Underdevelopment it's already uncovered in India.
Globally also bro
No they didn't uncovered it. Only develepmonet prototype bike seen on the road but it's not final bike at all
@@darksoul4721 uncovered? Test mule hai wo
399cc 390 duke has been unveiled globally not rc
It weighs 385lbs wet here in the UK with 47bhp ( set for A2 euro licences ) so 19lbs heavier than the Ninja400. By the marketing it seems they are getting the best ratio claims by pushing it as sports bike, although anyone can tell by looking at the bars that its a city/street bike.
We need a rs457 vs ninja 400 video in the future 😂
Wonder if some folks are being too hasty with skepticism. Seems like the rs 457 HP is being artificially limited for street. Holding back the torque figures is interesting... suspect they might be higher than the Ninja 400. Working through the consequences of that for a track engine map is exciting.
Aprilia did a great job of distilling the rsv4 down to the rs660 with street usability. If they can do the same from the 650 to the 457, it could be a great 'in-family' bike. Seems too like they tried to take all of the 'best' aspects of the RC390, Ninja 400, Yammie R3 & CFMoto 450ss into the rs457. Build quality & reliability is another story, though.
4:54 well 2023 ninja 400 makes 44,8hp not 48 and the actual 457 hp is 47,8 so I guess it has more power... The power to weight ratio is another story tho...
That 44.8 is at the rear wheels on a dyno.
It weighs 175kg or 385lbs wet according to Aprilia, and their weight numbers are generally spot on.
Come on! It looks gorgeous.
- hey buddy you were in the bathroom for an awful long time, what were you doing?
-SUPER DUKE!!!
I have a 3 bike stable. 2018 Hayabusa, 2021 S1000RR and a 2014 KTM RC8R... The RC8 is an 1190
These guys are way too negative on it for some reason I don't know
Will suzuki bring out a small displacement gsx-r style bike in the 400-600 range?
Kawasaki Ninja 400 has less power in europe.
I'm surprised by the disrespecc, this bike looks sick.
ninja 400 is actually not in that category bc aprilia is for a2 license in eu while ninja is not :)
well well theres rumors and spy shots of a singlecyl ducati testing🤣🤣
6:42
Absolutely 😂 you're going to need to visit the service center. Very often I must say since the bike is from Aprilia.
In India it's launched in the price 70% of ninja 400 💀so it's the best choice here in the segment!!
i’m slightly confused, they said the the ninja is 40 lbs lighter when the ninja is 366 lbs and the aprilia is 350 lbs, what??
Aprilia quotes dry weight(no fuel, no fluids) and Kawasaki quotes wet weight (full tank + all fluids). Aprilia wet weight will be close to 390 lbs
3 bike stable :
1. HD road glide
2. ninja Zx6r
3. KTM 690 supermoto
I hear the 400 Busa is coming......lol
I really wish these companies would make v twins instead of parallel
The Ducati Moto E sounds like a jet
the ninja 400 doesn't have 48 hp it has 44.8 at 10k rpms
By far the best A2 bike for the UK
Did you hear about the new Ducati hypermotard 695
For my first bike should i go for a ninja 500, rs457 or mt03?
I buyed one for my gf i got an rs660 and i love it
Buell 1190 for Track days and cafe - lol - (had 1125CR), my MT09 for my back roads, my modified Buell Blast for in city errands. I guess I'm good.
Shirt 19 is the type of dude to only go off the trend and get the fastest bikes and call it practicality. At least the other dude has taste and real eye catchers
good review guys
Its a old video bro so jst found it & bro rs457 is really the segment killer it already killed ninja 400 ninja 500 r3 duke390 rc390
How did it kill a ninja 500 and tc390? Track times?
those orange tubes on the duck signify high voltage cables not the cooling system
Yamaha right now have partnership with Cfmoto, probably they gonna make new product
Yammy the bike is out now time to revisit this bike ! It’s really peaked my interest and I want your review of it can you get one ?
Totally, I can't believe he hasn't gotten on it yet. A reaction-to-specs-sheet hot take video is kinda weak.
Yammie, tens de experimentar a RS457! Já está disponível na Europa pelo menos!! Abraço!
Superb video, I wanted to know one thing, I'm hesitating between the RS 457 and the RS 450, which is the most comfortable and which is the lower of the two because I have a small height of 1 meter 67, thank you
99And still no comment on the 1980's 500 two stroke street gp bikes.
lets see how it races against the kawi....
Concours 14 for the 1,2,3 bike stables - if you can handle the big girl!!
Dude with 19 shirt d rides duke hard
If they pitch this bike at the right price, the rest of the field will be decimated!!
You don't flip an aprilia for gp shift you just buy the update or whatever its called.
Since the Ninja 400 is a sports touring style wouldn't the 457 with the super sport style be more in competition with the ZX-4RR even though the ZX is a 4 cylinder? Bet you the price would be on par with the ZX-4 lol
No ninja 400 is not a sports touring bike. It is a sports bike. That's why there used a track everywhere. The 457 interms of engine with the 270 degree crank is closest to the cfmoto but will still compete with the ninja 400 and r3 and rc390. The price will only be a bit higher over a ninja 500 and r3. It won't be anywhere near zx4rr prices
400 is legit a commuter more than a sport bike.@@brendancontarino3941
Both ninja 400 and rs 457 at stock dont have committed ergonomics make its sports tourer rather than sports bike. zx-4r/4rr is pure track bike. You can make these sports tourers to sports for racing by doing modifications.
It's in the same class as the ninja 400. But I think since it's an Aprilia it will likely cost a couple thousand more than the ninja 400 but be less than the zx4rr.
@@Chiptoothbastard Yeah looks like the price will be $6K - 7K from what they announced so more on par with a 400 definitely.
Aprilia RSV1000 or RS250 Bikes of my youth.
Need a superbike, a naked bike or sport tourer and a supermoto
His is argument is....I hate it just because.
This bike is so wonderful
Papa Yams please notify brandon for me that I recently bought a 22 1290 SDR Evo used with 800 miles on it for 13995.
So, no L-twin coils on that ducrappi?
the 457 tires simply look way too small in the pics. IDK what size they are but they look like 17's would have been better? Also the rear swing arm looks awful tiny compared to the massive front end area around the motor. I think thats why it kinda looks spindly in the back end too
Big Vote for the Viper comin in!
Considering there’s an A2, restricted version of the RS660, who would buy the 450 instead? 🤷🏻♂️
Good morning yammie question I have for you this morning. What’s your thought on beginner learning on gp shifting ???
That's the best power to weitht for european licence A2.
Been waiting for this🤌🏼🤌🏼
not to flex but my 2006 rs125 also has battarey volts thingy
Hey yammie love the vids all the way from Australia
that new Triumph is not a "black ktm"
Yes to the viper!
I want to see a Suzuki gsxr 450 or 500 would be cool and a Yamaha r4 or r5
Ducati hypermotar single cylinder is captured testing in India , check it out
Please make a video on 2024 zx6r
have no issue with my brand new RS660 except for strong vibrations around 7000rpm. Plastic creaking moinse so bad, makes me crazy. Already making me regret not buying Yamaha.
Can you do math??? Since when is 350 more than 366??? A gallon of gas is 8 pounds, so if it holds 4 gallons, that puts it at 382.
Geesh.
If I could only have a 1 bike stable, it would have to be the 3rd gen busa. I’m not a track guy but I’d want a bike that’s fast and fun, something easy to find parts for, and it’s comfortable.
Aprilia should buy Energica
its cheaper than ninja 400
Your PiCKS :
2024 KTM 1390 Super Duke (not the outgoing 1290 SDR)
YZF R6
GSX-R600
ZX-6R ( ? )
YZF R1-M
Panigale V4R
KTM RC 8C
Speed Triple RR
Scrambler 1200 XE
Turbo Hayabusa GSX-1300R
Honda CBX (1050cc inline-6)
No Z-H2 in your STABLE ?
My Dream Bikes (450-500cc per cylinder) :
Fantic Caballero 500 Scrambler
2024 KTM 990 Duke
1500cc inline-3
2000cc inline-4 or V4
2500cc inline-5
3000cc V6 or VR6
no Honda CBX for me
no Supercharged bikes for me
2500cc inline-Five & 2000cc inline-Four & 1500cc inline-3 would be Longitudinally-mounted like Rocket 3R
(instead of the typical Transverse-mount arrangement)
Exception : Yamaha T-Max 560cc Twin
(only 280cc per cylinder)
Aprilia RS 457 / CF Moto 450 RS / Triumph Scrambler 400X / 2024 KTM 390 Duke / Kawasaki Eliminator 450 (parallel-twin) ......as beginner bikes
ARCH Method 143
(143ci or 2343cc air-cooled V2)
&
Brough Superior SS100 Salt-Racer (997cc water-cooled V2)
&
MV Agusta Superveloce-S / Dragster 800RR
&
Norton V4CR (1200cc V4 cafe-racer)
. . . are also dream bikes . . .
and the ninja has 27ft torque
Only reason to hate this bike is the paint scheme very dull paint
Z400 has 44hp so 3 less than rs457
Was this not uploaded last week? , I remember the joke about 3 bike garage being 3 super duke's. Groundhog day😂
1 Bike - KTM Super Duke GT
2 Bike - KTM Super Duke R / Honda Africa Twin
3 Bike - KTM Super Duke R / Honda Africa Twin / Honda RC45 RVF750
Yamie Cast 100
I'm REALLY interested in the baby ape for a track bike, but I have some questions about GP shift and what it does with a tune + pipe. All of the apes look the same, people always think my tuono v4 is a 600 till it starts. My '19 tuono needs rearsets for GP, can't just flip the linkage because of frame clearance..... I'm curious to see how much of the electronics are hidden behind dealer tools as well, last thing I want is a track bike that I can't work on easily. I won't be an early adopter, but I'll watch the forums and look for a salvage title on marketplace ;)
I am getting a new bike. want a cruiser or bobber. Not a speed guy. Love to chill. I am 6 feet 1 240 lbs. what do you suggest. let me know. Thanks
I’ll stick with the vitpilen 401 a little classier.
Lmao these 2 are a couple of dorks
😊
What about the CFmoto 675
Give it a few more months. Prob around new years/feb to actually get info
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boring. Sport bike, sport bike, sport bike stables make no sense.
KTM only knows how to make race bikes, they suck at regular bikes
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Nope.
@@Emily-ou6lq yep
i was first!!
Nope
Electric bikes 🤮