Because of the fire ban in Nova Scotia I am using my alcohol stoves more often. I thought you might be interested in a couple of different styles of DIY pot stands
I would like to thank everyone who has commented on the dangers of using galvanized wire in this project. One of the objectives of this project was to have it be as inexpensive as reasonable. For this reason I chose to use inexpensive galvanized wire over higher costing stainless steel wire. Based on the research I have done, galvanized metal does not release zinc in a gaseous state until it reached 1652F/900C. While the pot stand does get hot, the wire wrap does not come in direct contact with the flame and does not reach anywhere near hot enough to become dangerous, other than from burning you fingers. Finally, the pot stand and alcohol stove is intended to be used outdoors and not in a confined space where ventilation could be an issue. I feel confident the use of galvanized wire in this application is perfectly safe.
The "dangerous" temperature varies by the galvanization process used. In long-term, continuous exposure, the recommended maximum temperature for hot-dip galvanized steel is 392 F (200 C), according to the American Galvanizers Association. So, best bet is NOT to use galvanized metals that can become heated. Why take the chance?
Its worth it if I can save a few dollars for things I can't make myself. I also feel it is a bit of a bushcraft philosophy, making use of available resources to create something I need. Thanks for commenting
That's way to"whip"a rope. Heard you mention that. Learned that and many beneficial knots I've used all my life as ironworker, carpenter and in general life, camping, moving furniture,etc. Valuable lesson lasting lifetime. Some can't tie shoes today. Appalachia Tennessee.
I can't call myself a knot fanatic but I have spent some time learning a number of useful knots. The skill comes in handy quite often. Thanks for commenting
The Boy Scouts used to teach that stuff. It was mandatory to advance on the "Trail to Eagle". Not sure if it is now. I was fortunate to be in a very outward-bound troop in the 60s and 70s and those skills continue to serve me very well. I not only can still do all the rope work, but can make the rope as well. Most kids these days? Not so sure.....
This is an awesome video amd thank you some much for taking the time the shere it with everyone. People never really show a great way to make these when showing alcohol stove building.
Hi This is exactly what I was looking for. I love how you explain everything so well that anyone could understand it. Thanks Mark and God bless you Jude, from Kentucky ✝️🐴🐦🌿❣️
Delightfully simple, yet super functional! Very handy trick. No noise or smoke makes alcohol stoves great for unobtrusive camping! Thanks for sharing this. Take care.
Glad you enjoyed, I would prefer to have a fire for sure but if I have to use a fuel stove I prefer alcohol as it is quiet albeit slow. It is also the best of the fuels as far as carbon footprint goes. Thanks for commenting Aaron
Mark Young Same here sir. At the end of the day, it feels good to know that i made something and didn't have to spend unnecessary money. And no, thank you.
Excellent demo and instruction. I just finished making two of these with my grand daughter (13) who will be using them this year for camping and hiking. Thankyou again for another great DIY video.
If you have soft ground just turn your stand over and put the long wire down to the ground and use the short feet of your stand to set pot on. It will work both ways right side up or upside down. Thanks for your video and keep up the good ideas because there are lots of people that need good people to show them how to use items to make things that will be very handy and important.
Hey Mark, great video! Last week I modified a dollar store "beer can chicken" style roaster so I could use it as a pot stand for my biolite camp stove gen1. It raises my pots a bit higher than an inch and high enough to use longer sticks than usual. Worked out very well.
Love that idea. I had borrowed a friends BioLite and was considering how to improve the pot stand. I will have to share this with him. Thanks for commenting
So my nephew dropped in and we started chatting about motorcycle camping, and next season he dreams of hitting the road and camping rough, making hobo stew in a billy can. I haul out a old camel wil billy can/kettle, a pop can alcohol stove, and hand him a couple of skewers for him to make his own potstand, and shared the link with him. Thanks Mark! ;)
Thanks.. I made my own stand per your design,, worked out great.. quite strong..and even when the wire gets red hot from flames hitting it, it seems to stay strong and in good shape..
I must say that’s a Genius thought and helps me to make mine. I will say I will be adding one more making three for much more stability but I like where you was going with the process my friend! Gods blessings upon you and yours always
Hello, Mr. Young; EXCELLENT! video, you've helped me quite a lot w/ it. I just built my best alcohol stove (so far). It burns about 10 minutes on about 20mils of 99% iso alcohol. I used a U.S. penny (copper-plated zinc) & it semi-melted & deformed from the heat. So I'd been thinking about a pot stand & wind screen for it when your video came up. I like my gear to fold so it lays flat & this will do so nicely. My new stove is a bit larger than yours but your design will easily expand to fit. My stove is almost 3" tall & 2-9/16" wide. I think my stand should be 4" tall & 6" wide so I need about 14" skewers or other material. BTW, the cable/wire connectors are a really great idea! I can make wind screens (2) 6"x6" & pivot them w/ a hinge so I can easily cook on my stove. The same basic design will work great for the wind screens w/ skewers as legs, too. Three skewers, one as a hinge & one each on the two ends should work great. The legs can stick in the ground for stability. Thank you for your great video & the inspiration. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor! PS I really like that pot you demonstrated w/ at the end. I'd like to get one like it. Can you say where you got it? Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
Nice instructional video! Thx for sharing this... I need to make one too! Hope all is well with ur health, noticed u've lost some weight... lookin good Mark!
Glad you enjoyed the video. I must be the only person who put weight on during chemo-therapy. Probably because of my reduced energy. I have been working hard to regain my fitness with a side benefit of fitting back into my clothes. Thanks for the kind words
Thanks for the video! Another idea is to use stainless steel bicycle spokes -- not that expensive, rustproof, and you can even throw it in a fire without worrying about the galvanized steel issue. If you want to go even lighter, titanium bicycle spokes are not that expensive if you look around. Of course, if you want the flexibility of using it in a campfire, you'll have to avoid using the aluminum ferrules as they will probably melt. Steel wire or copper wire would be better in that case. Also, if you are going to use this just for alcohol stoves, you can get away with heat shrink tubing instead of ferrules.
Enjoyed your video as I usually do . Well presented with a lot of for thought. Whilst on the subject of alcohol stoves,always suspect in breezy conditions .I have a small mod ,which is useful in this and other alcohol stove probs.. My mod. refers to the common multi plate screens ,ten is a popular one. My tip is this, fold the screen up tight,clamped in a vice or such Draw a line or so, 1inch in from each side about 1inch apart along the two lines.Now mark holes centre of the plate in line with the top and bottom holes .Carefully drill through all the plates(whilst still clamped) at the marked points with drill suitable to accept about a 10mm. rod/tent stake. Erect your screen and you will have multple pan supports at various heights.,around almost any type stove..And a very secure windbreak too. Thanks for your vids.
Very useful ideas and a clear, easily understandable presentation. In the back of my mind, I am pondering how to fashion a similar folding pot stand with at least two panel sides which would serve as windbreaks on a breezy day. I might also mention that for some time I have had concerns regarding the use of "open top" stoves (in contrast to the "closed top" design used in many "penny can" designs). Specifically, the "open top" models strike me as potentially dangerous in that were they tipped over they would immediately spill their flammable fuel thereby creating a fire hazard.
Glad you found the video helpful. Your concept of a DIY pot stand with a wind shield built in intrigues me. I agree there is an increased risk of spilling alcohol with open-top stoves. I would think the most "spill resistant" design would have a full wick inside, carbon felt or fiberglass maybe. This type of stove should also work better in freezing temperatures. Of course, it would be a lot more difficult to recover unused alcohol from. You have given me a few things to think about. Thank you
Nice job. You could also connect 1 or 2 more sections to make a closed triangle/square and securely lock it in place by adding an extra sleeve on the legs of the end sections or wire but loose enough, to be able to slide down a very narrow U-shaped connector (longer as a stake). I like the sleeves better. Even more stability can be achieved with extra sleeves at the corner bottoms and extra skewers to use as stakes that are either intact or cut short, both with the loops intact. The bonus of the loops on the long stakes (2 at least) is being able to cook rotisserie style. The loops on the short stakes (2 at least), when driven down to the sleeves, prevents the stand from moving up. All unstable/ accidental movements are eliminated. It will still be light, foldable and compact while adding more stability to both the stand and the cooking vessel. An added bonus to my configuration is that you can use a grid/griddle grill plate. Pretty cool, huh ? I hope that you try this and do an update video (yeah, you can mention my name 😎) because I'm very sure that your viewers will like it. GOD Bless the U.S.A. This soldier shouts AIRBORNE !
Thanks.. I made my own stand per your design,, worked out great.. quite strong..and I tight aluminium foil on eatch panel... that's make a windsreen...
Another project done extremely well. Is there no end to your talent and inventiveness? My father was like that. I think it skips a generation, so I'll live vicariously through your videos. ;-D
Thanks Bruce. I take inspiration from my father. He grew up in a large family during the depression and hated throwing anything away that he thought he could use to make something else from
As did my father. He grew up dirt poor in the coal mining hills of West Virginia (I won't call them mountains, as I live in Colorado), and went to work on the railroad at age 14. Eventually, he became a machinist and could make and/or repair "anything". They were a tough and resilient generation.
Love the stainless steel skewers idea. When using a dremel tool it’s a good idea to use a face shield and safety glasses. Dremel tool cutting disc exploding can do quite a bit of damage even as small as they are. Only one set of eyes per customer. For anyone worried about the galvanized wire ( not me with the amount of heat ) you can get stainless steel wire for making jewelry that is small enough to make these wraps. It comes in 18-26 gauge for sure, maybe even smaller. I’d probably go with 20 gauge. For the aluminum cable ferrules the crimping tool isn’t the best design. You can put them on your vise and use a cold chisel and tap the chisel on ferrules with a hammer between between the skewers. Very good instructional, time to watch more of your videos.
Great tips. I have had a Dremel wheel explode as you say. I always use safety glasses but also use ear protection, even with the Dremel. My hearing damage is made worse from high pitched sounds. I went simple and hammered the ferrules on an anvil but have used the cold chisel idea as well. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark! I've been searching and struggling to find a stand that allows me to use my Stanley Adventure Pot with my Trangia. I have one of the Evernew Ti cross stands, but then I cannot snuff the flame when I've finishing boiling my water. Denatured Alcohol is cheap enough, but I just don't want to run out of it while I'm in the field. So I really like that this design lets me still use the snuff/simmer ring. I made two of these stands from some cold rolled 1/8" steel round bar from the hardware store (about US$2.50 per 3 foot rod) (I'm not sure how non-stainless will stand up overtime, but should be good enough for as often as I'll use it) and aluminum cable ferrules (about US$1.5 per pair). On one, I wrapped some aluminum from a dollar store cookie sheet to make a small wind screen. It is loosely wrapped about the far legs and stapled to itself, forming something of a band from one far leg, around the joined legs, and stapled about the other far leg. The band is not as tall as the stand, so that there is a gap between it and the ground and it and the top bars. There is quite a bit of slack in the aluminum band that allows my Trangia stove to still fit under the stand and within the aluminum band/windscreen. The band/windscreen hugs the Trangia quite nicely. For those concerned about pack weight, the windscreen only adds about 5 grams to the otherwise naked stand. I've run a couple of boil tests in various conditions outside and consistently get at least a 2 minute faster boil time using the windscreen stand compared to the naked stand. I've also compared the screened stand to an Evernew Ti cross stand, and get about a one minute faster boil time. I've not done anything too scientific. I just made sure that my water started at room temperature, but my ambient conditions have been all over the place due to the fluctuating weather we've had lately. When I'm ready to take this into the field, I will definitely be bringing a proper windscreen to further increase the stove's efficiency. Thanks for the idea and great video tutorial!
Glad you found the video helpful. I have had great success using the SS skewers for pots stands. I have made one from 3/16" iron rod for setting over coals but that is a different application. You are so right, a windscreen makes a huge difference in boil time and therefore, alcohol consumption.Thanks for commenting
Okay, I followed your instructions and quickly made a couple of these stands. Just what I needed! Thanks. A couple of notes: 1. I live in the Southeast US and was not able to find any round skewers anywhere. Only thing I found was some square ones, and this seems to be the trend - here, anyway. So I bought some stainless steel bicycle spokes on eBay. $7.28 US for 10. They are 2mm in diameter, and very stiff and strong. Also bought the 2mm crimp sleeves on eBay - 100 pieces for $6.79. So pot stands still very cheap. 2. You can crimp the sleeves better if you will take a couple of scrap pieces of rod that you cut off and tape them into the grooves on the sleeve. Then crimp in the vice. Gives a better crimp, but I can't say it's worth the extra effort. Keep taking "the road less traveled". :-)
Thanks what a great tutorial. I’m in the hardware shop right now buying skewers and looking for wire, I may have to use paper clips (straightened out then wrap them around) Best regards from the UK 😁👍🏻
We have fire bans here in BC also so I will have to use my alcohol stoves next summer. So happy that I can make my own stand and save a little money. I just hope I can bend my skewers with my pliers because I don't have a vise. Thanks for posting this video.
Unfortunately, it would appear we are likely to have more fire-banes as the climate changes. I am able to bend the SS skewers from Dollarama quite easily with pliers. I like using a vice more for precision bending than anything else. Thanks for commenting
Nice tip about the sleeves, I have always used tubing. Mine I make with three sections, I allows a larger variety of pots. Instead of skewers I have been using the metal from advertisement signs.
Good idea on the sign supports. I considered a three sided pot stand but decided to go simple. I am thinking about a three sided heavy gauge rod pot stand or trivet for use directly over coals. Thanks for commenting
I found a handy, cheap pot stand. I used a metal steam rack in the same fashion you're describing. The only issue is that it doesn't fold down compact. However, if you have your 'dog bowl' oven in a stuff sack, it nestles pretty well.
Very cool. I always like finding items I can turned into useful camping gear. I use two dog bowls together as an oven. I use a computer fan screen with the tabs bent as a spacer in the bottom of oven setup. Works great. Thanks for commenting
Greetings: Professor Mark, This is an excellent demonstration! And serves as a great help for those of us on a budget and enjoy making our own gear. The benefits to make it yourself, is that one can also FIX it themselves, if the need arises, especially in the field. Now for a suggestion: perhaps you can add heavy duty foil, to the pot stands and point the "V" into the wind? This would effectively double as a DIY winds too? Of course, a few air holes may be necessary. Alternatively, the pot stands can be used as described and a second, taller stand can be used as a windscreen. As soon as I get a new bench vice, I will try these designs and I thank you for sharing your experience with us! 😀
Thank you for your kind words. I like your idea of building a windscreen onto the pot stand. Depending on how heavy gauge the skewer or wire is you use for the pots stand yo may be able to bend it with pliers. Thanks for commenting
Instead of wrapping wire to hold the sections together, I would use brass tubing. The tubing should be slightly larger than the two (coat hanger) wires put together. Slide the tube over the two wires, then crimp it together. Then bend the feet.
Good one Mark. I see no problem using galvanized and I have made several things for my stove kits out of galvanized...as long as you are not cooking a piece of meat on it you are fine.
I found a metal material shape for the stand like that, it from a pair handle of pail. I don't need bend or cut the metal, just take them off from a pail. All I need just a wire. Thanks for giving me the idea. 😀
Great project. Thanks fo such a good explanation. Just a couple of thoughts on the "wire wrap" version: tape together the legs not being wrapped to make the whole more manageable. As to both versions: add a third bent side so you can have a triangle shaped stand, allowing widening or narrowing the stand top.
Good suggestions on taping the legs together. The three-sided version is also a good suggestion. Definitely more stable for the pot. The two sided version is just a lighter weight option. Thanks for commenting
Was thinking hammer flatter then cold chisel both sides to pinch it. Might try that using a coil of 1/4” copper tubing I bought while garage sailing. Copper tube would look a little stylish too.
Over time those ferrules will get loose and slide down when in use. I suggest you smash the rods a tad just below the top ferrule to prevent the ferrule from sliding down. A sort of indent if you will. I want to make the triangle one not just the two sided one. Will apply your ferrule method to that one.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft That's not encouraging lol Implies that either it is a poor design or that you no longer use a Trangia, presumably because that is bad too! Jokes aside, why not make another one and see if you can improve upon it? Perhaps add in a wind screen? Primer dish?
cool, I always had the burn ban interpreted to me as it was OK to use a wood stove to cook. I will have to call my friend at Lands and Forests to see if I was told wrong information
Hi Todd. I called DNR last year and was told it had to be a CSA approved appliance. It is not in the Act of Regulations but it is on their FAQ page novascotia.ca/natr/forestprotection/wildfire/burnsafe/Q-As.asp
New subscriber. AWESOME VIDEO!!! Been LOOKING for this exact video for some time for my DIY 12oz beer can & Fosters can stoves! Curious what GUAGE is the IDEAL thickness of the barbeque skewers? (I image there's too thin & too thick guages? My educated guess is ideally at least 10g [3.2mm] to 8g [4.1mm ]?) Also have you designed a 'bracket' that holds the 2 open legs together so the stand is more secure? (Maybe just a wire coat hanger with a loop at either end slid over the 2 legs so they don't open or spread apart). Have you designed a SQUARE pot stand version similar to this 2 legged version? With these triangular pot stands it's IMPERATIVE to place the pot or skillet with the handle at a POINT of the triangle (not side) or the weight of the handle will tilt the pot or skillet over, which MAY knock over & SPILL the alcohol fuel causing a FIRE! I've made RIGID pot stands (that nest with the pots & skillet in my preferred cook set). These stands are rectangular U-shaped. I use huge 18.5" 10.5 guage 'Drapery' wire coat hangers made of galvanized steel (the coating on the wire is bronze color, old fashioned 1960s-80s style wire coat hangers), not stainless steel (I think stainless steel warps under flame?). Rather difficult finding these types of coat hangers anymore though, but Amazon in the USA sells theml, but pricey ~ $3-$4 per hanger (but enough wire in 1 coat hanger to make 2 pot stands). I found the standard 13g steel and 'thick' 12g coat hangers too thin & buckle under flame. The 10.5g coat hanger pot stands last much longer but will eventually weaken and become brittle after a few months of daily cooking. Maybe I should try 10g stainless steel coat hangers for my rigid pot stands? Seems you're using stainless steel barbeque skewers & they're not warping under flame. Maybe you should consider making a YT video on making RIGID pot stands out of stainless steel coat hangers? If the stands fit INSIDE the cookset then not a 'packing issue' if they're rigid.
I use the skewers from our dollar store. I don't know the gauge but they are quite thin and I have had them bend with too much heat. The best would be stainless steel welding rods. Still cheap but harder to bend. Thanks for commenting
Super! Love your easy to follow instructions! HOWEVER I'm curious why you didn't use the rounded ends of the skewers as stable "feet" ... or was that for space in the cook kit? Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the video. I considered leaving the rounded end on but for two reasons I decided against. First, one skewer made a whole pot stand so I would only get one rounded foot. Second, if someone was working with a different wire or rod it would not have rounded ends. Good suggestion though. Thanks for commenting
I had the same thought. I imagined you could use the loop feet on the outside of the V and square bent foot in the center. Anyway, thanks for the video. It’s and incredibly useful compact solution.
Good question. I have no concerns about stainless steel for pots or utensils. Even if there are toxic metals in them, it would require temperatures higher than can usually be generated by a fire before being released. The only items I would have concern about are those non-metal ones that come in direct contact with food. I would be cautious of plastics unless they are labeled BPA free. Thanks for commenting
I just made a couple of these. And I was wondering what I could do with the remaining eyelet part of the skewers. I sharpened the ends up, and made awls for my repair bags.
I would like to thank everyone who has commented on the dangers of using galvanized wire in this project. One of the objectives of this project was to have it be as inexpensive as reasonable. For this reason I chose to use inexpensive galvanized wire over higher costing stainless steel wire. Based on the research I have done, galvanized metal does not release zinc in a gaseous state until it reached 1652F/900C. While the pot stand does get hot, the wire wrap does not come in direct contact with the flame and does not reach anywhere near hot enough to become dangerous, other than from burning you fingers. Finally, the pot stand and alcohol stove is intended to be used outdoors and not in a confined space where ventilation could be an issue. I feel confident the use of galvanized wire in this application is perfectly safe.
Ah, OK. I just knew it was something welders had to worry about. There is no way an alcohol stove gets that hot.
Excellent clarification and the logic behind it is sound!
Zinc is not danger in small dose. RDA recometation is under 40 mg per day. Coating is hardly this and doesn`t vaporize at the time.
Rust, if its not on the burner portion there really isnt any danger
The "dangerous" temperature varies by the galvanization process used. In long-term, continuous exposure, the recommended maximum temperature for hot-dip galvanized steel is 392 F (200 C), according to the American Galvanizers Association. So, best bet is NOT to use galvanized metals that can become heated. Why take the chance?
You must have gone to the same school my grandfather went to. He taught me that if you can't buy it, you can make it. Great video.
Hey Joe , quite often if you CAN buy it you Should try to make it..
Its worth it if I can save a few dollars for things I can't make myself. I also feel it is a bit of a bushcraft philosophy, making use of available resources to create something I need. Thanks for commenting
Handmade stuff is funky... love all the effort people put into making their kit
Making stuff for myself is its own reward. A sense of pride, even if it is something small like a pot stand. Thanks for commenting
That's way to"whip"a rope. Heard you mention that. Learned that and many beneficial knots I've used all my life as ironworker, carpenter and in general life, camping, moving furniture,etc. Valuable lesson lasting lifetime. Some can't tie shoes today. Appalachia Tennessee.
I can't call myself a knot fanatic but I have spent some time learning a number of useful knots. The skill comes in handy quite often. Thanks for commenting
The Boy Scouts used to teach that stuff. It was mandatory to advance on the "Trail to Eagle". Not sure if it is now. I was fortunate to be in a very outward-bound troop in the 60s and 70s and those skills continue to serve me very well. I not only can still do all the rope work, but can make the rope as well. Most kids these days? Not so sure.....
This is an awesome video amd thank you some much for taking the time the shere it with everyone. People never really show a great way to make these when showing alcohol stove building.
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Great video - looking forward to the next one! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed. Working on the next one now. Thanks for commenting
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This is exactly what I was looking for. I love how you explain everything so well that anyone could understand it.
Thanks Mark and God bless you
Jude, from Kentucky ✝️🐴🐦🌿❣️
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
This is genius thank you so much for the measurements I am making this asap with an old wire coat hanger
Glad it was helpful. Be cautious with the hanger. It may not stand up to high heat. Thanks for commenting
Delightfully simple, yet super functional! Very handy trick. No noise or smoke makes alcohol stoves great for unobtrusive camping! Thanks for sharing this. Take care.
Glad you enjoyed, I would prefer to have a fire for sure but if I have to use a fuel stove I prefer alcohol as it is quiet albeit slow. It is also the best of the fuels as far as carbon footprint goes. Thanks for commenting Aaron
This guy is old school. Nice to see someone using their ingenuity and not relying on Google or Ebay to bail them out.
Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy coming up with my own solutions to issues.
Mark Young Same here sir. At the end of the day, it feels good to know that i made something and didn't have to spend unnecessary money. And no, thank you.
Excellent demo and instruction. I just finished making two of these with my grand daughter (13) who will be using them this year for camping and hiking. Thankyou again for another great DIY video.
Hey Dave. Good to hear from you
If you have soft ground just turn your stand over and put the long wire down to the ground and use the short feet of your stand to set pot on. It will work both ways right side up or upside down. Thanks for your video and keep up the good ideas because there are lots of people that need good people to show them how to use items to make things that will be very handy and important.
Great tip! Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark, great video! Last week I modified a dollar store "beer can chicken" style roaster so I could use it as a pot stand for my biolite camp stove gen1. It raises my pots a bit higher than an inch and high enough to use longer sticks than usual. Worked out very well.
Love that idea. I had borrowed a friends BioLite and was considering how to improve the pot stand. I will have to share this with him. Thanks for commenting
This will be my next project - thank you so much! Really enjoyed your simple instructions.
I am glad you found the video helpful. Thank you for commenting
So my nephew dropped in and we started chatting about motorcycle camping, and next season he dreams of hitting the road and camping rough, making hobo stew in a billy can.
I haul out a old camel wil billy can/kettle, a pop can alcohol stove, and hand him a couple of skewers for him to make his own potstand, and shared the link with him.
Thanks Mark! ;)
Very cool. I am glad you found my video helpful enough to share. Thanks for commenting
You are the king of DIY Mark! Great project and excellent video, thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the video Jackie. Hope to see you at the gathering next month
Won't be making it but hope you enjoy!
Great idea Mark! I'll be making a couple for myself. Thanks for another great video!
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Thank you for sharing this useful diy stand.
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Fantastic and elegant solution that fits the budget right where you want it. Good work. 🤙🏻
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Thanks.. I made my own stand per your design,, worked out great.. quite strong..and even when the wire gets red hot from flames hitting it, it seems to stay strong and in good shape..
Glad it worked out for you. I find stainless steel works much better than coat hanger. Thanks for commenting
I will never make one but I love watching you make these things.
Thank you for your kind words
Great stands! This stuff is so much fun
Lot of fun for me as well. Thanks Randal
I must say that’s a Genius thought and helps me to make mine. I will say I will be adding one more making three for much more stability but I like where you was going with the process my friend!
Gods blessings upon you and yours always
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Nice rather simple solutions to a common problem. Thumbs up.
Thanks Lonnie..my philosophy is KISaC (Keep It Simple and Cheap)
Lol. I like and agree with that philosophy.
Another great project - love it!
Thank you John
There's nothing like the Mark Young Finnish Pot Stand!
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Hello, Mr. Young;
EXCELLENT! video, you've helped me quite a lot w/ it.
I just built my best alcohol stove (so far).
It burns about 10 minutes on about 20mils of 99% iso alcohol.
I used a U.S. penny (copper-plated zinc) & it semi-melted & deformed from the heat.
So I'd been thinking about a pot stand & wind screen for it when your video came up.
I like my gear to fold so it lays flat & this will do so nicely.
My new stove is a bit larger than yours but your design will easily expand to fit.
My stove is almost 3" tall & 2-9/16" wide.
I think my stand should be 4" tall & 6" wide so I need about 14" skewers or other material.
BTW, the cable/wire connectors are a really great idea!
I can make wind screens (2) 6"x6" & pivot them w/ a hinge so I can easily cook on my stove.
The same basic design will work great for the wind screens w/ skewers as legs, too.
Three skewers, one as a hinge & one each on the two ends should work great.
The legs can stick in the ground for stability.
Thank you for your great video & the inspiration.
Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
PS
I really like that pot you demonstrated w/ at the end.
I'd like to get one like it.
Can you say where you got it?
Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
Making DIY Stoves can be very rewarding. The pot is the Camelwill1.2L. I have a couple of videos in it. Thanks for commenting
Excellent idea! Thank you for the video.
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Nice instructional video! Thx for sharing this... I need to make one too!
Hope all is well with ur health, noticed u've lost some weight... lookin good Mark!
Glad you enjoyed the video. I must be the only person who put weight on during chemo-therapy. Probably because of my reduced energy. I have been working hard to regain my fitness with a side benefit of fitting back into my clothes. Thanks for the kind words
Oh yesssss… the aluminium tube version is my favourite - proper job ; )
I agree. Very easy to make as well.
Very clear and informative, highly appriciated!
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Thank you very much for that DIY project! It was extremely useful for me, also explained very well.
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Thanks for the video! Another idea is to use stainless steel bicycle spokes -- not that expensive, rustproof, and you can even throw it in a fire without worrying about the galvanized steel issue. If you want to go even lighter, titanium bicycle spokes are not that expensive if you look around. Of course, if you want the flexibility of using it in a campfire, you'll have to avoid using the aluminum ferrules as they will probably melt. Steel wire or copper wire would be better in that case. Also, if you are going to use this just for alcohol stoves, you can get away with heat shrink tubing instead of ferrules.
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Always a pleasure to watch your vids... cheers Mark ; )
Thank you for your kind words
Enjoyed your video as I usually do . Well presented with a lot of for thought. Whilst on the subject of alcohol stoves,always suspect in breezy conditions .I have a small mod ,which is useful in this and other alcohol stove probs.. My mod. refers to the common multi plate screens ,ten is a popular one. My tip is this, fold the screen up tight,clamped in a vice or such Draw a line or so, 1inch in from each side about 1inch apart along the two lines.Now mark holes centre of the plate in line with the top and bottom holes .Carefully drill through all the plates(whilst still clamped) at the marked points with drill suitable to accept about a 10mm. rod/tent stake. Erect your screen and you will have multple pan supports at various heights.,around almost any type stove..And a very secure windbreak too. Thanks for your vids.
Very interesting idea. I will give that serious consideration. Are you okay if I share this idea and give you the credit?
Very useful ideas and a clear, easily understandable presentation. In the back of my mind, I am pondering how to fashion a similar folding pot stand with at least two panel sides which would serve as windbreaks on a breezy day. I might also mention that for some time I have had concerns regarding the use of "open top" stoves (in contrast to the "closed top" design used in many "penny can" designs). Specifically, the "open top" models strike me as potentially dangerous in that were they tipped over they would immediately spill their flammable fuel thereby creating a fire hazard.
Glad you found the video helpful. Your concept of a DIY pot stand with a wind shield built in intrigues me. I agree there is an increased risk of spilling alcohol with open-top stoves. I would think the most "spill resistant" design would have a full wick inside, carbon felt or fiberglass maybe. This type of stove should also work better in freezing temperatures. Of course, it would be a lot more difficult to recover unused alcohol from. You have given me a few things to think about. Thank you
Nice job. You could also connect 1 or 2 more sections to make a closed triangle/square and securely lock it in place by adding an extra sleeve on the legs of the end sections or wire but loose enough, to be able to slide down a very narrow U-shaped connector (longer as a stake). I like the sleeves better. Even more stability can be achieved with extra sleeves at the corner bottoms and extra skewers to use as stakes that are either intact or cut short, both with the loops intact. The bonus of the loops on the long stakes (2 at least) is being able to cook rotisserie style. The loops on the short stakes (2 at least), when driven down to the sleeves, prevents the stand from moving up. All unstable/ accidental movements are eliminated. It will still be light, foldable and compact while adding more stability to both the stand and the cooking vessel. An added bonus to my configuration is that you can use a grid/griddle grill plate. Pretty cool, huh ?
I hope that you try this and do an update video (yeah, you can mention my name 😎) because I'm very sure that your viewers will like it.
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Well thought out bit of kit. Thanks for the ideas
Thanks.. I made my own stand per your design,, worked out great.. quite strong..and I tight aluminium foil on eatch panel...
that's make a windsreen...
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Another project done extremely well. Is there no end to your talent and inventiveness? My father was like that. I think it skips a generation, so I'll live vicariously through your videos. ;-D
Thanks Bruce. I take inspiration from my father. He grew up in a large family during the depression and hated throwing anything away that he thought he could use to make something else from
As did my father. He grew up dirt poor in the coal mining hills of West Virginia (I won't call them mountains, as I live in Colorado), and went to work on the railroad at age 14. Eventually, he became a machinist and could make and/or repair "anything". They were a tough and resilient generation.
Mark, thanks for sharing, great idea 👍
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Mark, that was excellent!
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Love the stainless steel skewers idea. When using a dremel tool it’s a good idea to use a face shield and safety glasses. Dremel tool cutting disc exploding can do quite a bit of damage even as small as they are. Only one set of eyes per customer.
For anyone worried about the galvanized wire ( not me with the amount of heat ) you can get stainless steel wire for making jewelry that is small enough to make these wraps. It comes in 18-26 gauge for sure, maybe even smaller. I’d probably go with 20 gauge.
For the aluminum cable ferrules the crimping tool isn’t the best design. You can put them on your vise and use a cold chisel and tap the chisel on ferrules with a hammer between between the skewers.
Very good instructional, time to watch more of your videos.
Great tips. I have had a Dremel wheel explode as you say. I always use safety glasses but also use ear protection, even with the Dremel. My hearing damage is made worse from high pitched sounds. I went simple and hammered the ferrules on an anvil but have used the cold chisel idea as well. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark! I've been searching and struggling to find a stand that allows me to use my Stanley Adventure Pot with my Trangia. I have one of the Evernew Ti cross stands, but then I cannot snuff the flame when I've finishing boiling my water. Denatured Alcohol is cheap enough, but I just don't want to run out of it while I'm in the field. So I really like that this design lets me still use the snuff/simmer ring.
I made two of these stands from some cold rolled 1/8" steel round bar from the hardware store (about US$2.50 per 3 foot rod) (I'm not sure how non-stainless will stand up overtime, but should be good enough for as often as I'll use it) and aluminum cable ferrules (about US$1.5 per pair). On one, I wrapped some aluminum from a dollar store cookie sheet to make a small wind screen. It is loosely wrapped about the far legs and stapled to itself, forming something of a band from one far leg, around the joined legs, and stapled about the other far leg. The band is not as tall as the stand, so that there is a gap between it and the ground and it and the top bars. There is quite a bit of slack in the aluminum band that allows my Trangia stove to still fit under the stand and within the aluminum band/windscreen. The band/windscreen hugs the Trangia quite nicely. For those concerned about pack weight, the windscreen only adds about 5 grams to the otherwise naked stand.
I've run a couple of boil tests in various conditions outside and consistently get at least a 2 minute faster boil time using the windscreen stand compared to the naked stand. I've also compared the screened stand to an Evernew Ti cross stand, and get about a one minute faster boil time. I've not done anything too scientific. I just made sure that my water started at room temperature, but my ambient conditions have been all over the place due to the fluctuating weather we've had lately.
When I'm ready to take this into the field, I will definitely be bringing a proper windscreen to further increase the stove's efficiency.
Thanks for the idea and great video tutorial!
Glad you found the video helpful. I have had great success using the SS skewers for pots stands. I have made one from 3/16" iron rod for setting over coals but that is a different application. You are so right, a windscreen makes a huge difference in boil time and therefore, alcohol consumption.Thanks for commenting
Great ideas thank you for posting
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Okay, I followed your instructions and quickly made a couple of these stands. Just what I needed! Thanks. A couple of notes:
1. I live in the Southeast US and was not able to find any round skewers anywhere. Only thing I found was some square ones, and this seems to be the trend - here, anyway. So I bought some stainless steel bicycle spokes on eBay. $7.28 US for 10. They are 2mm in diameter, and very stiff and strong. Also bought the 2mm crimp sleeves on eBay - 100 pieces for $6.79. So pot stands still very cheap.
2. You can crimp the sleeves better if you will take a couple of scrap pieces of rod that you cut off and tape them into the grooves on the sleeve. Then crimp in the vice. Gives a better crimp, but I can't say it's worth the extra effort.
Keep taking "the road less traveled". :-)
Great adaptation. I really like how you got a better crimp. Sounds like your end product should work out very well. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks for sharing. Very nice project and i can think of ways to make other things also.
Glad you found the video helpful. I have found the skewers useful for a great number of small projects. Thanks for commenting
Thanks what a great tutorial. I’m in the hardware shop right now buying skewers and looking for wire, I may have to use paper clips (straightened out then wrap them around)
Best regards from the UK 😁👍🏻
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Great job, Mark! Well done. Thank you, very much!
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Nice simple folding design! 👍👍
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I am very interested in outdoor cooking so vids like this are pretty cool. Great vid!
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Always great information
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cool DIY project I enjoyed watching
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Just wanted to thank you for this vid. I made the same thing but out of bike spokes
They would likely be stronger. Thanks for commenting
Thank you very much. This is a very good guide and an excellent pot stand :)
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Exactly what I was looking for for my DIY Kojin stove. Cheers
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We have fire bans here in BC also so I will have to use my alcohol stoves next summer. So happy that I can make my own stand and save a little money. I just hope I can bend my skewers with my pliers because I don't have a vise. Thanks for posting this video.
Unfortunately, it would appear we are likely to have more fire-banes as the climate changes. I am able to bend the SS skewers from Dollarama quite easily with pliers. I like using a vice more for precision bending than anything else. Thanks for commenting
Just use a sturdy hollow tube to bend the scewers or 2 closed ended wrenches
I thought that accent sounded like Nova Scotia! Born and raised there until I was 12. Great video!
Good ear. Lived in Halifax my whole life. Thanks for commenting
Nice tip about the sleeves, I have always used tubing. Mine I make with three sections, I allows a larger variety of pots. Instead of skewers I have been using the metal from advertisement signs.
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I thot about that! I see a lot of thoz old signs that are old and aren't used anymore, but the metal still looks good!
Good idea on the sign supports. I considered a three sided pot stand but decided to go simple. I am thinking about a three sided heavy gauge rod pot stand or trivet for use directly over coals. Thanks for commenting
Nice Craftmanship. Nice Video
Thank you
I found a handy, cheap pot stand. I used a metal steam rack in the same fashion you're describing. The only issue is that it doesn't fold down compact. However, if you have your 'dog bowl' oven in a stuff sack, it nestles pretty well.
Very cool. I always like finding items I can turned into useful camping gear. I use two dog bowls together as an oven. I use a computer fan screen with the tabs bent as a spacer in the bottom of oven setup. Works great. Thanks for commenting
Awesome job
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Greetings: Professor Mark,
This is an excellent demonstration! And serves as a great help for those of us on a budget and enjoy making our own gear. The benefits to make it yourself, is that one can also FIX it themselves, if the need arises, especially in the field.
Now for a suggestion: perhaps you can add heavy duty foil, to the pot stands and point the "V" into the wind? This would effectively double as a DIY winds too? Of course, a few air holes may be necessary.
Alternatively, the pot stands can be used as described and a second, taller stand can be used as a windscreen.
As soon as I get a new bench vice, I will try these designs and I thank you for sharing your experience with us! 😀
Thank you for your kind words. I like your idea of building a windscreen onto the pot stand. Depending on how heavy gauge the skewer or wire is you use for the pots stand yo may be able to bend it with pliers. Thanks for commenting
Great innovative video 👍
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Instead of wrapping wire to hold the sections together, I would use brass tubing. The tubing should be slightly larger than the two (coat hanger) wires put together. Slide the tube over the two wires, then crimp it together. Then bend the feet.
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Good one Mark. I see no problem using galvanized and I have made several things for my stove kits out of galvanized...as long as you are not cooking a piece of meat on it you are fine.
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I found a metal material shape for the stand like that, it from a pair handle of pail. I don't need bend or cut the metal, just take them off from a pail. All I need just a wire. Thanks for giving me the idea. 😀
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Great project. Thanks fo such a good explanation. Just a couple of thoughts on the "wire wrap" version: tape together the legs not being wrapped to make the whole more manageable. As to both versions: add a third bent side so you can have a triangle shaped stand, allowing widening or narrowing the stand top.
Good suggestions on taping the legs together. The three-sided version is also a good suggestion. Definitely more stable for the pot. The two sided version is just a lighter weight option. Thanks for commenting
I use the same skewers, cable wire, and ferrules for many of my other designs. Ferrules are great.
Great minds think alike 😅. I am starting to find all kinds of uses for the ferrules. Thanks for commenting
Was thinking hammer flatter then cold chisel both sides to pinch it. Might try that using a coil of 1/4” copper tubing I bought while garage sailing. Copper tube would look a little stylish too.
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Great idea.
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i like the one with the aluminum hinge pieces. VG
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Excellent 👍
Many thanks
Thanks Mark.
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Excellent 👏👏👏👏👍
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Skewers is a great idea. Thanks!
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Very helpful!
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Over time those ferrules will get loose and slide down when in use.
I suggest you smash the rods a tad just below the top ferrule to prevent the ferrule from sliding down.
A sort of indent if you will.
I want to make the triangle one not just the two sided one.
Will apply your ferrule method to that one.
Good suggestion. I will not be making another of these but if I was I would use the ferrules again for a three sided version
@@MarkYoungBushcraft That's not encouraging lol
Implies that either it is a poor design or that you no longer use a Trangia, presumably because that is bad too!
Jokes aside, why not make another one and see if you can improve upon it?
Perhaps add in a wind screen?
Primer dish?
Hey the 2 sides make a triangle.
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Handy Dandy riggin & Soo Compact, Thanks Mark Happy Canada Day Friend ! ATB Ter God Bless
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May have to have a go at these, Mark. Enjoy the extra day off ! ATB Ter God Bless
First time I've seen somebody else with a slip joint tongs . Did not even know they where called that...used to be my mother's.
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cool, I always had the burn ban interpreted to me as it was OK to use a wood stove to cook. I will have to call my friend at Lands and Forests to see if I was told wrong information
Hi Todd. I called DNR last year and was told it had to be a CSA approved appliance. It is not in the Act of Regulations but it is on their FAQ page novascotia.ca/natr/forestprotection/wildfire/burnsafe/Q-As.asp
Don't thread all of the wire through the loop - it will pull through more easily. Same goes for string/cord wrapping.
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Skewers and eight plates windshield is usable together. Holes to plates and skewers thru the holes to support pot.
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Well done, sir.
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Very instructive film. I thought, would be using papertape to keep the two pins during the bendingproces together be helpfull?
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New subscriber. AWESOME VIDEO!!! Been LOOKING for this exact video for some time for my DIY 12oz beer can & Fosters can stoves!
Curious what GUAGE is the IDEAL thickness of the barbeque skewers? (I image there's too thin & too thick guages? My educated guess is ideally at least 10g [3.2mm] to 8g [4.1mm ]?)
Also have you designed a 'bracket' that holds the 2 open legs together so the stand is more secure? (Maybe just a wire coat hanger with a loop at either end slid over the 2 legs so they don't open or spread apart).
Have you designed a SQUARE pot stand version similar to this 2 legged version?
With these triangular pot stands it's IMPERATIVE to place the pot or skillet with the handle at a POINT of the triangle (not side) or the weight of the handle will tilt the pot or skillet over, which MAY knock over & SPILL the alcohol fuel causing a FIRE!
I've made RIGID pot stands (that nest with the pots & skillet in my preferred cook set). These stands are rectangular U-shaped.
I use huge 18.5" 10.5 guage 'Drapery' wire coat hangers made of galvanized steel (the coating on the wire is bronze color, old fashioned 1960s-80s style wire coat hangers), not stainless steel (I think stainless steel warps under flame?). Rather difficult finding these types of coat hangers anymore though, but Amazon in the USA sells theml, but pricey ~ $3-$4 per hanger (but enough wire in 1 coat hanger to make 2 pot stands).
I found the standard 13g steel and 'thick' 12g coat hangers too thin & buckle under flame. The 10.5g coat hanger pot stands last much longer but will eventually weaken and become brittle after a few months of daily cooking. Maybe I should try 10g stainless steel coat hangers for my rigid pot stands? Seems you're using stainless steel barbeque skewers & they're not warping under flame.
Maybe you should consider making a YT video on making RIGID pot stands out of stainless steel coat hangers?
If the stands fit INSIDE the cookset then not a 'packing issue' if they're rigid.
I use the skewers from our dollar store. I don't know the gauge but they are quite thin and I have had them bend with too much heat. The best would be stainless steel welding rods. Still cheap but harder to bend. Thanks for commenting
Nice Video, that'll come in handy
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BRILLIANT !!!! 👍👍👍👍
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Awesome!!
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I would use the circle end for the foot ,of the skewer. For more footing base. Just a thought
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Great idea ,& awesome video as well . Thanks
Neat idea - thanks
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Super! Love your easy to follow instructions! HOWEVER I'm curious why you didn't use the rounded ends of the skewers as stable "feet" ... or was that for space in the cook kit? Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the video. I considered leaving the rounded end on but for two reasons I decided against. First, one skewer made a whole pot stand so I would only get one rounded foot. Second, if someone was working with a different wire or rod it would not have rounded ends. Good suggestion though. Thanks for commenting
I had the same thought. I imagined you could use the loop feet on the outside of the V and square bent foot in the center. Anyway, thanks for the video. It’s and incredibly useful compact solution.
When you pick things from dollar stores, how do you determine if they are safe to put near a fire?
Good question. I have no concerns about stainless steel for pots or utensils. Even if there are toxic metals in them, it would require temperatures higher than can usually be generated by a fire before being released. The only items I would have concern about are those non-metal ones that come in direct contact with food. I would be cautious of plastics unless they are labeled BPA free. Thanks for commenting
I love the idea of using skewers. Ive made a couple with coat hanger wire, but finding the older heavy gauge ones is all but impossible now.
Next video: how to use an old license plate to make a folding windscreen. :)
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Cool idea!
Maybe use a few linked together for a tall one!
I'm gonna steal that idea for my little "to go" grill!
Thx!
LOL...I actually thought about that
The dollar store skewers are one of the best finds for me. Use them for a number of projects. Thanks for commenting
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I just made a couple of these. And I was wondering what I could do with the remaining eyelet part of the skewers. I sharpened the ends up, and made awls for my repair bags.
Great idea. I have tossed a lot of the ends because I could not think of what to do with them. Thank you
Good thinking. I knew there had to be a use for them - too cool to throw away! :-)
Excellent
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Nice ideas
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Nice little tip...
Thank you my friend
If you would permit me, I think your second method is far superior to the first method. I may try it.
I agree. I wanted to show options for people. Thanks for commenting