Very great!! And I have to say that they talk about the high tech and the high budgets that destroyed our touring car championship in Germany forever. It is nice to watch a Tiff Needell footage and not easy to watch the year all had changed.
RIP Old Hockenheim, 90's high-tec DTM was much better than the modern plastic cars, shame nobody would ever commit to a championship that expensive now.
@tambunansumlang it's because of the leverage. when you're closer to the steering wheel, you have to move your arm less to steer the same amount compared to a situation when you are further away from it and your arms are more extended.
Max li Basically, in 1996 the FIA took main control of the series, milked all the money out of it, starved the teams of cash, reduced fan access, AND hiked the TV licensing fees. In other words, basically what they've done to F1.
@redheadmarshal I loved this show, like you say, it was an amazing variety. I've tried to find the introduction to the show, it was worth the licence fee alone.
ABS don't take something away? Although he is right , they don't make one Schumacher. They still take away spectacular wheel locking for spectators and one of the hardest skills in driving. Spectators lose, drivers lose, and the teams have to deal with more stuff in the car. ABS is only good for those who can't drive like all other driving aids.
And to think in less than two years from this, DTM would be gone, turned into ITC that the FIA murdered by running the costs up and taking them to far flung places. Hey that sounds familiar. Then the revised DTM laste about...oh....10 or 15 years before finally dying a slow painful death and turning into yet another GT3 seriesAI
you're right about the series being more spectacular and interesting in the 80-90's , but it's the movement from groupA to high-budget -tec racing group that killed series like we loved it. they should' ve kept it max as when all cars were allowed wings. that would' ve been the way to keep more brands in it and keep the series alive don't understand why that guy prefers 3 to 5 brands in the series against 8 or more it was because of the high numbers of cars and brands that most loved it
I never will understand why they deconstructed the original layout of Hockenheim. Couldn't they just have left the old version and built the current layout as well?
I don't know what any of you are talking about. These cars are nice but, the new DTM cars are just as nice if not better. Racing will always be life too me and I respect ALL cars and race cars. Stop being fairweather fans and fanboys. You either love Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters or you don't. Any TRUE racing enthusiast and car enthusiast would agree with me......
DTM =/ DTM. Most love the Deutsche Tourenwagen MEISTERSCHAFT but not the Deutsche Tourenwagen MASTERS. Small difference in name, big difference in quality!
no thats totally not so I'm a real racing fanatic, but i like it when they are RACING. that involves bodytouching, outbreaking, trying so hard to overtake causing some errors, crashes, etc.. look at the old BTCC races and dtm: you see the drivers AND the cars are working HARD to keep on the track. You SEE the SPEED nowadays it's all about safety and as less as possible damage thats not racing (sure you have to respect the cars, material, etc) Reasons enough to not like all racing
Soweit wie ich weiß hat man es damals aus Kostengründen sterben lassen Nur um dann 3, 4 Jahre Später es wieder als überteure Rennserie wieder auferstehen zu lassen
So he drives a DTM car, and all Mr Needell can tell us is that the car brakes really well, and that it oversteers, but thats ok cos he likes it. Gee thanks Tiff. Let us know when someone actually reviews this beast properly.
"*That's* the Hockenheim we all know"
F to pay respects
>Hermann Tilke has entered the chat
Tiff is such a great racedriver - thanks for the clip!
this is why i have always like 155s and W202s
Very great!! And I have to say that they talk about the high tech and the high budgets that destroyed our touring car championship in Germany forever. It is nice to watch a Tiff Needell footage and not easy to watch the year all had changed.
This is great. Tiff is a laugh and a great commentator. Thanks
I used to love this Top Gear Motorsport sub programme in the early-mid 90s!! Thanks for uploading
Used to a really good show, big mix of disciplines covered.
Who here is watching when the DTM has Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lamborghini, and a Porsche?
Beautiful DTM, Would love to get my hands on one.
I love how he is really pushing the car!
They are not even GT-cars, they are full blown prototypes with zero technical similarity to the street cars, maybe apart from the headlights :-)
Agree! Those Class 1 DTM cars where on of most advanced race cars
RIP Old Hockenheim,
90's high-tec DTM was much better than the modern plastic cars, shame nobody would ever commit to a championship that expensive now.
This is soooooo fast as hell !!
and exactly the same with the btcc
I actually loved that even more to watch
whats Tiff doing these days, as a Canadian i always enjoyed this gentleman during the limited times ive seen him
Lovecars yt channel
The icon for DTM for me I even had them on sega
I love DTM
@tambunansumlang it's because of the leverage. when you're closer to the steering wheel, you have to move your arm less to steer the same amount compared to a situation when you are further away from it and your arms are more extended.
Shame that the FIA deliberately drove this series into the ground.
+Lukeno52 Why, can you explain ?
Max li
Basically, in 1996 the FIA took main control of the series, milked all the money out of it, starved the teams of cash, reduced fan access, AND hiked the TV licensing fees. In other words, basically what they've done to F1.
Then brought it back in 2000. makes no sense. Why "Milk it" only to bring it back?
@@MiniOne82 cash cow, gotta milk it some more
Once there are Tourenwagen in the Race
Today there are GT-Cars with a Streetcar-Silhouette
The steering wheel is close to the driver just like Nascar.
I JUST LOVE IIIIT!!! GO Tiff :D
Ach schön die Gute Alte Zeit Danke
@redheadmarshal I loved this show, like you say, it was an amazing variety. I've tried to find the introduction to the show, it was worth the licence fee alone.
Great! I just wish I could do a swap with him... I'd love to drive :-))))
W202 LOVE!
Nice hair Tiff :D
@DTMEnthusiast They say he is going to be the new Stig, on Top Gear. We'll find out next week!
@armorgeddon Yes mate, from what I remember it was, used to be shown on a separate afternoon/evening to the main show :)
More on Steve Parrish race truck!
1:08--1:14!!!!!!!!!!
wow i have that stock c36 but if you call that slow then the dtm would be realy fast
tiff still rockin' a "coupe dumb & dumber"
Class cars
Tiff doesn’t age
ABS don't take something away? Although he is right , they don't make one Schumacher. They still take away spectacular wheel locking for spectators and one of the hardest skills in driving. Spectators lose, drivers lose, and the teams have to deal with more stuff in the car. ABS is only good for those who can't drive like all other driving aids.
Yea I can't watch today's DTM.I love the Australian V8 Supercars. Great cars!
Seems the engine basis for the present f1 engines v6 sound
0:05 not the Calibra :(
And to think in less than two years from this, DTM would be gone, turned into ITC that the FIA murdered by running the costs up and taking them to far flung places. Hey that sounds familiar.
Then the revised DTM laste about...oh....10 or 15 years before finally dying a slow painful death and turning into yet another GT3 seriesAI
the headlights are sticker ;)
you're right about the series being more spectacular and interesting in the 80-90's , but it's the movement from groupA to high-budget -tec racing group that killed series like we loved it.
they should' ve kept it max as when all cars were allowed wings.
that would' ve been the way to keep more brands in it and keep the series alive
don't understand why that guy prefers 3 to 5 brands in the series against 8 or more
it was because of the high numbers of cars and brands that most loved it
0:14 an athlete having wardrobe malfunction mid-competition and still had to finish it while being top naked
this is better than nascar
by miles...
you are too obvious
taxi joke got me :)
@Chunkychucky: was it a completely separate show?
das war noch DTM!
@workensmart that would be a scary thought.
One of my favorite cars in GT2!
I do like hes full face helmets better then open face helmets ?
@fudgenubs the true pinnacle of costly
I know what you mean
GT-Car was the wrong notation.
1 dislike coming from a kid who likes modern day top gear- comedy talk show feat. Carlso
in a car like that, without all the complex electronics, the only thing you'd be turning into is your grave
I have this fucking car
@workensmart: Judd V8? It's not in this car!
what´s the name of the song in the begining ????
Sounds like a Joe Satriani song
I never will understand why they deconstructed the original layout of Hockenheim. Couldn't they just have left the old version and built the current layout as well?
Thats exactly what they did, only it over grew.
0:30 why is that not tiff?
whats the name of the intro music?
Charles Jones sounds of bullshit
Charles Jones sounds like Satch.
Agreed. Sounds very Satriani'ish.
I don't know what any of you are talking about. These cars are nice but, the new DTM cars are just as nice if not better. Racing will always be life too me and I respect ALL cars and race cars. Stop being fairweather fans and fanboys. You either love Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters or you don't.
Any TRUE racing enthusiast and car enthusiast would agree with me......
Is that Nico in the background @ 4:46?
No!
He must be :) Good catch! :)
I thnk so too
quanta bella polvere ha respirato dall'Alfa questa mercedes..ricordo che c'era Larini sempre primo
Apparently I do not have the worst haircut in the world.
DTM =/ DTM. Most love the Deutsche Tourenwagen MEISTERSCHAFT but not the Deutsche Tourenwagen MASTERS. Small difference in name, big difference in quality!
no thats totally not so
I'm a real racing fanatic, but i like it when they are RACING.
that involves bodytouching, outbreaking, trying so hard to overtake causing some errors, crashes, etc..
look at the old BTCC races and dtm: you see the drivers AND the cars are working HARD to keep on the track. You SEE the SPEED
nowadays it's all about safety and as less as possible damage
thats not racing (sure you have to respect the cars, material, etc)
Reasons enough to not like all racing
w202
Soweit wie ich weiß hat man es damals aus Kostengründen sterben lassen
Nur um dann 3, 4 Jahre Später es wieder als überteure Rennserie wieder auferstehen zu lassen
Only one car....
So he drives a DTM car, and all Mr Needell can tell us is that the car brakes really well, and that it oversteers, but thats ok cos he likes it. Gee thanks Tiff.
Let us know when someone actually reviews this beast properly.
Leave the Tiff alone, he is a British National Treasure
@@supertouring22 laughable, as outdated as Brexit and fish and chips. Nah, I'll call out calamity where i see fit.
@@TheJohnsonseviltwin you funny man, me like fishy chippy. Tell more joke
@@supertouring22 look in the mirror
No, tell us something funny. Like what car you drive. Now THAT is funny.