I'm getting ready to replace my plastic timing cover with a metal one, and wanted to remember what it was going to look like inside there - good "timing" with this vid! Do any generation SBC's have a tensioner for the timing chain?
I really enjoy your videos; I am newly retired and now have time to learn how to build engines . Please continue these fantastic videos. Can you recommend some books for reference sources. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much! As far as books go I would recommend anything put out by smokey Yunick I also have some very detailed videos on the small block build if you search my channel here are a few examples ruclips.net/video/mBpEUCaZFy4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/wYtAY6QqE9Y/видео.html ruclips.net/video/TYTGINWuby8/видео.html
And if you install the distributor pointed at # 1 on the cap, you will be 180 degrees out if still dot to dot. always rotate crank one complete revolution before dropping distributor in.
Just point the rotor at #6 no need to do all that turning over finding TDC mess. If the dizzy don't drop down just back the crank up 30° point the rotor at 6 and when it turns over and falls down it will be right on the money.
I wish someone made a video on the GM strait 4 cylinder. I dont think the gm 4 cylinder in my hyster forklif is one of the 4 cylibder Gm made out of the gm 8 cylinder 283. By cutting it in half as i seen a number of Forums i have read. My head an spark plug holes are not slanted. There strait up an down. I be beleave i have a timeing problem. I have yet to take it a part i had to order a balancer puller. I asked on amazon were to find parts timeing chain an gears. An crank seal and cover gasget. One guy answered saying there 2 gears one on the crank an one on the cam. No chain at all. He could be right as every time i look an the timeing cover i ask my self, how it it posible to fit 2 timing gears an a chain under this very small an short timeing cover. Then i ask my self. If this guy is right an only has 2 gears no chain. How is it even posible that it could jump?. Then i thought. Well maybe they are plastic. They stripped, broken teeth? But the distributor roter turns steady no miss or stop points.. i had a hell of a time just to find a distrubutor cap, coil, and rotor. No parts dealer has a listing for a gm 4 cylinder. I called the gm dealer an was told they dont suport the gm 4 cylinder. The only way i was able to get these parts. Fat guy auto asked me for a number in side the cap. I gave it to him an he found what i needed. But no one can find listing for timeing gears / chain, crank seal and cover gasket.. i find it hard to be leave that a timeing gear jumped on a engeine with just over 4000 hours on the hour meter. I at a loss an nothing on you tube. I was thinking i do one it i can locat the parts. I done many on gm 350 an ford 351. Freind of mine told me it looks like gm iron horse. But no listings all listind start at 6 cylinder on 7 parts shops.
I’ve been trying to find a video of someone tapping the oil galley plugs on an 880 block with the machined surface. Are the two outer plugs 3/8? And the middle one the standard 1/4? Would be a cool video to make since there’s nothing out there. Keep up the great videos!
YES, the Vortec block had larger oil passages on each side (lifter galleries) and a standard size 1/4 pipe in the center just tap the two side passages with a 3/8 pipe tap and your in business that's what was done to the block in the video
I think people make the mistake that this is on top dead center firing on piston number 1 when it is dot-to-dot when you go to stab your distributor. Without checking your valves closed on top dead center it will be 180 out if I'm not mistaken
What does the "SGI" in the normal casting # location represent? Are these late model vortec and gen 2 blocks actually ductile iron blocks and does the SGI actually means spheroidal graphite iron?
Question for ya? I just installed double roller chain and its tight. the thing that's weird is if i rock crank very slighty back and forth i feel a tiny bit of play. it seems like there play between lower gear and chain. Is that normal? seems like less than a 1/8 movement. thanks
What I do if I needed to advance the cam 4 degrees? Advance the crank by 4 degrees and rotate the cam sprocket 180 one half turn so the dot goes from 6 o clock to 12 o clock.
Can you please make a video on selecting the correct size carburetor for its application? I know it's been covered so much everywhere but I'd like to hear your opinions
My 95 is factory prep...for roller cam.. Is a 96 crankshaft ok to....am a 4L60E online student....ya got to watch the transmission details 95 is separate from all other years far as transmission....95 is transmission 95 M-30 only 95...no other year's will work
Since this is a newer video. Thought I'd ask if you ever tried the new LS cam firing order in any sbc yet. I was watching your cam vids awhile back and thought of theses.. I guess I mean older sbc 80s 90s.
It's too bad Ford can't put marks on their timing gears. The new ones. Those have a darkened link on the chain. I almost need a telescope to see it. Those I mark with a paint pen.
Hey mister iron do you happen to know the camshaft intake and exhaust lift on my factory 1998 zz4 350 motor in my Silverado in trying to compare it to other camshafts
@@44special9 Not on the ‘92 LT1 . FACT! I disassembled the Opti-Spart distributor, ran a continuity check, as well as removed the valve covers to confirm.
@@44special9 That’s exactly what I’m saying. I understand the basics, pistons travel in pairs (on a V8). They have to… Just don’t know why GM changed things
@@eddiesalinas8458 If that's the case then I don't think anything has changed because this old school 350 is the same . Piston 1 (drivers side front) and piston 6 (passenger side third from front ) travel up and down together . When this is DOT-TO-DOT the piston 1 is TDC exhaust stroke and piston 6 is TDC compression . They seem the same to me , if they're different let me know . If it's DOT-TO-DOT and you're getting ready to drop a distributor in then the crank is turned one revolution which puts piston 1 at TDC compression .
Can you do a video on when you put the timing cover on and where you put the marks for distributor installation? Both marks up and TDC firing on number one?
Install your timing set and timing cover and then rotate your crank 1 rotation until on TDC again. Now your distributor is ready to install. Edit at this point you cam gear will be 180° from being setup
I guess I just didn't realize how much misunderstanding there was on this when, the marks are dot to dot this position is TDC on the number one piston but it is not on the power stroke, it is on the exhaust stroke, and the valves are in overlap, the cylinder does not fire there, it's companion cylinder # 6 will be TDC power stroke all you need to do to get # 1 on TDC power is rotate the crankshaft 1 complete rotation this will cause the camshaft to rotate 1/2 turn, the cam and crank are 2 to 1 the cam gear is twice the size of the crank gear and it rotates half the speed of the crank, so 1 full rotation of the crank is 1/2 turn of the cam when the marks are at 12 and 12 the number 1 piston is at TDC power and number 6 is in overlap, I am just now figuring out that there are some people posting on here that don't understand that setting the marks dot to dot is the same as 12 and 12 just 1 rotation off for # 1 I got into a discussion with a guy that insisted the chain has to be installed with the marks at 12 and 12 he clearly did not get that it's the same thing just much easier to make sure the marks are lined up for installation purposes
Wrong. Every manual that’s ever existed has been stated to use Dot-To-Dot, if you can’t figure out how to turn the engine over till it’s on TDC on the compression stroke that’s your problem.
@@Shade_tree_garage01 I start all my 350 withe the two dot at 6 o'clock...this way Poston nomber 1 will be on compression and the rotor will also be on fire nomber 1 ...if you put your cam shaft at 12 o clock you will be piston 6 on compression but it will fire on nomber 1...now you will have to turn your cap 180 degree...and if you're fallowing every manual you will always be 180 degree out.
The dot to dot position is just for installing the chain and gears its much easier to make sure they are dead on if you install at 12 and 12 its actually easy to be a tooth off and not know it, you are correct about TDC exhaust when it's dot to dot but all you need to do is rotate the crank one rotation and your marks will be at 12 and 12 on TDC Power pretty simple
Nice to see someone do a tutorial showing the proper dot to dot instead of the 12 o'clock and 12 o'clock that others keep showing.
Its great to watch somebody that knows what their doing. GREAT JOB!!!
I'm getting ready to replace my plastic timing cover with a metal one, and wanted to remember what it was going to look like inside there - good "timing" with this vid! Do any generation SBC's have a tensioner for the timing chain?
I really enjoy your videos; I am newly retired and now have time to learn how to build engines . Please continue these fantastic videos. Can you recommend some
books for reference sources. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much! As far as books go I would recommend anything put out by smokey Yunick I also have some very detailed videos on the small block build if you search my channel here are a few examples
ruclips.net/video/mBpEUCaZFy4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/wYtAY6QqE9Y/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/TYTGINWuby8/видео.html
How do you rotate camshaft sprocket if it doesn't move do you take out all the spark plugs?
Crank gear has 3 marks!! Which mark do you use??
Did you drill to use mechanical fuel pump?
Keep ‘em coming baby
who is going to flip the engine up side down?🤔🤣😁🥴😟
And if you install the distributor pointed at # 1 on the cap, you will be 180 degrees out if still dot to dot. always rotate crank one complete revolution before dropping distributor in.
If they can’t figure out how to get it on TDC on the compression stroke that’s their problem
Just point the rotor at #6 no need to do all that turning over finding TDC mess. If the dizzy don't drop down just back the crank up 30° point the rotor at 6 and when it turns over and falls down it will be right on the money.
I wish someone made a video on the GM strait 4 cylinder. I dont think the gm 4 cylinder in my hyster forklif is one of the 4 cylibder Gm made out of the gm 8 cylinder 283. By cutting it in half as i seen a number of Forums i have read. My head an spark plug holes are not slanted. There strait up an down. I be beleave i have a timeing problem. I have yet to take it a part i had to order a balancer puller. I asked on amazon were to find parts timeing chain an gears. An crank seal and cover gasget. One guy answered saying there 2 gears one on the crank an one on the cam. No chain at all. He could be right as every time i look an the timeing cover i ask my self, how it it posible to fit 2 timing gears an a chain under this very small an short timeing cover. Then i ask my self. If this guy is right an only has 2 gears no chain. How is it even posible that it could jump?. Then i thought. Well maybe they are plastic. They stripped, broken teeth? But the distributor roter turns steady no miss or stop points.. i had a hell of a time just to find a distrubutor cap, coil, and rotor. No parts dealer has a listing for a gm 4 cylinder. I called the gm dealer an was told they dont suport the gm 4 cylinder. The only way i was able to get these parts. Fat guy auto asked me for a number in side the cap. I gave it to him an he found what i needed. But no one can find listing for timeing gears / chain, crank seal and cover gasket.. i find it hard to be leave that a timeing gear jumped on a engeine with just over 4000 hours on the hour meter. I at a loss an nothing on you tube. I was thinking i do one it i can locat the parts. I done many on gm 350 an ford 351. Freind of mine told me it looks like gm iron horse. But no listings all listind start at 6 cylinder on 7 parts shops.
I’ve been trying to find a video of someone tapping the oil galley plugs on an 880 block with the machined surface. Are the two outer plugs 3/8? And the middle one the standard 1/4? Would be a cool video to make since there’s nothing out there. Keep up the great videos!
YES, the Vortec block had larger oil passages on each side (lifter galleries) and a standard size 1/4 pipe in the center just tap the two side passages with a 3/8 pipe tap and your in business that's what was done to the block in the video
@@Myvintageiron7512 thanks I appreciate the response ! You are the best
Do you not have to set number 1 cylinder to top dead center compresion strock first?
its actually tdc ex stroke
I think people make the mistake that this is on top dead center firing on piston number 1 when it is dot-to-dot when you go to stab your distributor. Without checking your valves closed on top dead center it will be 180 out if I'm not mistaken
Exactly
So when both valves closed dot will be up ?
Do you have a part number for the cam thrust plate I’m having issues with my right now I have a 94 blazer with a 350 tbi motor
Perfect video! Not sure why people get this confused, but this guide should help out anyone who has a question. Did exactly this in my latest build.
What does the "SGI" in the normal casting # location represent? Are these late model vortec and gen 2 blocks actually ductile iron blocks and does the SGI actually means spheroidal graphite iron?
Question for ya? I just installed double roller chain and its tight. the thing that's weird is if i rock crank very slighty back and forth i feel a tiny bit of play. it seems like there play between lower gear and chain. Is that normal? seems like less than a 1/8 movement. thanks
on the crank gear, you didn't show the different dots on it. i've got that set and it's confusing
You paint the engine then put the freeze plugs in without damaging the paint or u do the plugs first then paint just tape the plugs real good ?
What I do if I needed to advance the cam 4 degrees? Advance the crank by 4 degrees and rotate the cam sprocket 180 one half turn so the dot goes from 6 o clock to 12 o clock.
Don't you usually run a true roller timing chain, I've always heard they were the only way to go other than a belt drive or gear drive !
yep
Can you please make a video on selecting the correct size carburetor for its application? I know it's been covered so much everywhere but I'd like to hear your opinions
Watch many of ya collection....AND.........will 1996 5.7 rods work in a 1995 5.7 block my 95 block is Vortec ready in full .....by....GM
You said the 1996 5.7 rods are better than the 95 rods
Yes they will work
@@charlie4339 thanks
@@charlie4339 I probably get some 96 rods at my salvage yard...And put in my 95...am building.....if 96 rods are good condition.....
My 95 is factory prep...for roller cam..
Is a 96 crankshaft ok to....am a 4L60E online student....ya got to watch the transmission details 95 is separate from all other years far as transmission....95 is transmission 95 M-30 only 95...no other year's will work
Do you use Loctite on your camshaft bolts?
How do i rotate the crank if the motors still in thr car?
they make a crank socket for that
@@Myvintageiron7512 ok thanks for the information
Since this is a newer video. Thought I'd ask if you ever tried the new LS cam firing order in any sbc yet. I was watching your cam vids awhile back and thought of theses.. I guess I mean older sbc 80s 90s.
Yes, I have tried with a few early small blocks really didn't see and power gain or loss
amazing again sir.
Chain is all loose.
On older engines the chain will tighten once the adjustments are made
Would love to see a good buick 350 series. Not much full rebuild videos out there for them
I have a 455 Buick Build it's basically the same thing.
ruclips.net/video/bKYcCW2qvyc/видео.html
It's too bad Ford can't put marks on their timing gears. The new ones. Those have a darkened link on the chain. I almost need a telescope to see it. Those I mark with a paint pen.
Hey mister iron do you happen to know the camshaft intake and exhaust lift on my factory 1998 zz4 350 motor in my Silverado in trying to compare it to other camshafts
Awesome 🎉🎉🎉❤ keep it coming
Is loctite necessary on the cam sprocket bolts, or does it matter?
It’s just a little extra insurance but it is optional
Thanks bud!
Thank you
Can you explain why GM changed from piston 1 being at TDC compression stroke at DOT-TO-DOT to piston 6 on the LT1 engine in a ‘92 Vette? 2:48
Piston 1 is at TDC exhaust stroke at DOT-TO-DOT here , not TDC compression stroke .
@@44special9 Not on the ‘92 LT1 . FACT! I disassembled the Opti-Spart distributor, ran a continuity check, as well as removed the valve covers to confirm.
@@eddiesalinas8458 So you're saying when you're at DOT-TO-DOT your piston 6 is at TDC compression ?
@@44special9 That’s exactly what I’m saying.
I understand the basics, pistons travel in pairs (on a V8). They have to… Just don’t know why GM changed things
@@eddiesalinas8458 If that's the case then I don't think anything has changed because this old school 350 is the same . Piston 1 (drivers side front) and piston 6 (passenger side third from front ) travel up and down together . When this is DOT-TO-DOT the piston 1 is TDC exhaust stroke and piston 6 is TDC compression . They seem the same to me , if they're different let me know . If it's DOT-TO-DOT and you're getting ready to drop a distributor in then the crank is turned one revolution which puts piston 1 at TDC compression .
Can you do a video on when you put the timing cover on and where you put the marks for distributor installation?
Both marks up and TDC firing on number one?
you are better off watching your rocker arms to be sure you are on the compression stroke.
Install your timing set and timing cover and then rotate your crank 1 rotation until on TDC again. Now your distributor is ready to install.
Edit at this point you cam gear will be 180° from being setup
I guess I just didn't realize how much misunderstanding there was on this when,
the marks are dot to dot this position is TDC on the number one piston but it is not on the power stroke, it is on the exhaust stroke,
and the valves are in overlap,
the cylinder does not fire there, it's companion cylinder # 6 will be TDC power stroke all you need to do to get # 1 on TDC power is rotate the crankshaft 1 complete rotation this will cause the camshaft to rotate 1/2 turn, the cam and crank are 2 to 1 the cam gear is twice the size of the crank gear and it rotates half the speed of the crank, so 1 full rotation of the crank is 1/2 turn of the cam when the marks are at 12 and 12 the number 1 piston is at TDC power and number 6 is in overlap, I am just now figuring out that there are some people posting on here that don't understand that setting the marks dot to dot is the same as 12 and 12 just 1 rotation off for # 1 I got into a discussion with a guy that insisted the chain has to be installed with the marks at 12 and 12 he clearly did not get that it's the same thing just much easier to make sure the marks are lined up for installation purposes
If you put it dot to dot you will be a 180 degree out...I allways put the two dot at 6 o'clock.
Wrong. Every manual that’s ever existed has been stated to use Dot-To-Dot, if you can’t figure out how to turn the engine over till it’s on TDC on the compression stroke that’s your problem.
@@Shade_tree_garage01 I start all my 350 withe the two dot at 6 o'clock...this way Poston nomber 1 will be on compression and the rotor will also be on fire nomber 1 ...if you put your cam shaft at 12 o clock you will be piston 6 on compression but it will fire on nomber 1...now you will have to turn your cap 180 degree...and if you're fallowing every manual you will always be 180 degree out.
@@Shade_tree_garage01 dot to dot is #6 firing
The dot to dot position is just for installing the chain and gears its much easier to make sure they are dead on if you install at 12 and 12 its actually easy to be a tooth off and not know it,
you are correct about TDC exhaust when it's dot to dot but all you need to do is rotate the crank one rotation and your marks will be at 12 and 12 on TDC Power pretty simple
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