Technical correct maneuver is two distinct independent signal lane then changes is my understanding, isn't it? Other drivers can't predict you moving more than one lane.
you dont find it sus that the car infront of him at first is a tesla and the car he needs to get behind to make the right hand turn is also a tesla? its set up for stupid youtube videos to push shit electric cars
@@noidontthinksolol critical thinking skills at an all time low clearly. You think they closed off an entire main road, cross road, and multiple intersections to film a simple video of a car changing lanes? Just be because 3 out of the 20 or so cars in the clip are Tesla's?
@@noidontthinksolol Take off the tinfoil hat. Teslas are VERY common nowadays and especially when you drive in certain wealthier areas, certain vehicles will show up more often.
@@fredr0fc not everything is a conspiracy. I see Teslas EVERYWHERE where I live. I normally see at least 20 of them a day, they're incredibly common here. The chances of there being multiple Teslas next to each other is incredibly high, I see it all the time lol.
One of the most telling gaps in these systems is that it only knows what it sees. The pedestrian cross the street is "lost" as its obfuscated from the sensors passing in front of the other cars. This may seem trivial but the ability to predict what one hasn't seen is probably the most important part of driving.
They supposedly added that ability to the beta. Maybe just not on the visualization. Basically it remembers what was seen and prepares/looks out for it.
In many states you could get pulled over for that. You crossed two lanes without stopping. You're supposed to pause once you move over one lane so people realize that you intend to move a second lane also. Otherwise it can cause accidents. I've seen it happen.
Uhh, his turn signal was on??? drivers who have their signals i respect, but it's when drivers don't have their signals and then turn two lanes I have a problem with.
@Laba Daba I don't really have a problem with it either. I was just pointing out that in many states it's technically illegal to make a lane change across multiple lanes without stopping before moving to the next. Even if your turn signal is on. I just found it weird for Tesla to program it to do something that is technically illegal. Though you probably wouldn't ever get pulled over for it.
@@Midwestmint It does pause between lanes though. I think you may be overthinking that law. It's not designed for this type of thing. It's designed for people that dart across all the lanes quickly and dangerously. What was done here was perfectly legal.
By californian drivers you mean the people that moved here from NewYork and took the metro/taxis their entire lives, then bought a car in CA only to be blamed for being californian drivers correct?
@@soarstar which is the exact opposite of how people should be logically driving. Half the people driving lose their minds when traffic from an on-ramp is trying to zipper merge, when everyone is stuck going 15 mph.
The longer I live in rural Canada, the happier I am with drivers here. They're not the sharpest, but they'll let you in if you're having a moment of stupidity.
Who told you that you CAN'T cross over a solid white line?? You need to take another driver's ed course😂😂 The only lines you aren't supposed to cross are DOUBLE solid.
@@jaysrandomnesschannel I never said you CAN'T cross it.. Also, I think YOU need to take a drivers course because you shouldn't cross either of them. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean you should do it. Crossing a double solid is illegal and you CAN'T do it. Crossing a single solid isn't illegal, but it's bad to cross them. It's a solid line for a reason dude. It's there to prevent accidents and/or traffic jams.
Right! As a south American, I can relate! 🤣 I thought he would have to turn right at the first traffic light and that would be very problematic... But everyone turned left and only further ahead there was a single turn right lane. I see that the solid lane trespass was an issue, but had it made before that point it would be reasonably ok, I guess 😅
@@iROMine Its called safety. Multiple lane changes at ones make it harder to predict where a car is going. You never know if they will just continue to change lanes.
I mean it’s America home to some of the worst drivers imaginable plus terrible road design, car dependent society and no joke 0 public transportation outside of major cities and awful unsafe bike lanes poorly designed and never used.
Most would use the middle lane so they don‘t cut any traffic and comparing it to the worst drivers that should not and might not have a license isn‘t a good thing
@@BASED.88you still have to give other drivers "reasonable time" to notice your signal that car gave you 3-6 seconds tops when most people would be looking in front of them also shouldn't the car of stayed in its original lane to be safe.
@@shawdcummings2160 the whole “3 seconds” thing does not work in the real world. Good luck driving in any big cities. By the time 3 seconds have passed I have already flipped my signal lights on and off and took my lane. I think cautious / timid drivers are more dangerous than someone who is confident and will just take their position when there is room and it is safe to do so…Nothing worse than being stuck behind someone with their lights blinking for a few seconds and then having to wait another 5 to 10 seconds for them to slowly drift over. Slows traffic right down
I‘m more impressed about the distance the other cars keep from each other. In Stuttgart they would honk for keeping that big of a gap. There would be only two cars passing the green light and another two driving over red light.
Lane changes have improved to such a high level of smoothness and confidence that I'm honestly impressed. It's reached a level above my own confidence in right squeezes without compromising safety with the other vehicles.
@@mrd2500 I don't think you get my point. It chose the far inside lane when it has to merge twice. You cant expect drivers in other lanes to give the right away for a quick merge. That's where it messed up.
Why did they even wait there then? It's about efficiency, believe me that if autopilots handled most of the stuff, the line of cars wouldn't even exist other than for the red light in front
Wow is that a Maryland Driver setting they added to FSD? Did it prompt you to extend your middle finger to all of the highlighted vehicles to the right as you pass them?
Hahaha Maryland drivers are the worst! Anytime someone cuts me off or does something reckless near me on the road, 90% of the time I guess it’s a Maryland driver… I’m right 😂
At least the robot knows to turn into the closest available lane and merge over only when clear, unlike 90% of drivers. It’s irritating if I’m taking an outer right or left turn lane and some doofus thinks they are allowed to turn into any lane they choose and completely disregard adjacent turning lanes. Hell, even law enforcement doesn’t follow this simple concept!
@@danharold3087 that’s true but this one was telling the truth. You do have to fill occupy a lane before you merge to another one. I’m not sure how they quantify what “claiming a lane” is but the law does say you have to go one lane at a time
@@greenxdshadow6635 From the comments here it is clear that the law is not uniform on this point. My point is that whatever the law is FSD will have to accommodate it. This should not be seen as a FSD bug.
Good, I hate people that merge right after. Too many times I’ve seen people jump 2-3 lanes over in seconds. That’s how you cause an accident. Ooo even worse when people don’t use their signal right, wait few seconds before merging and turn it off AFTER you’re fully in the lane.
yeah, i think self-driving would be great if it wasn't for humans. Thats why i think it shouldn't be allowed would really only work if humans weren't allowed to drive lol.
@@richardlee1472 eventually that should be how it is. If every car were self driving we could literally eliminate traffic as a whole, since congestiob happens when someone slows down and all the cars behind him have to slow down as well, but if every care drove the exact same speed at all time it would never happen.
@@NocturnalPyro I just can’t see people having the discipline to control their emotions. For some reason when folks see someone trying to merge, they instantly step on the gas and or/slow down in a way that doesent let you merge when you slow down. They have to assert their dominance in front and behind their car. Putting that feature on doesent mean most won’t just drive manually anyways
It'll get there.. this hostility parameter will be accounted for in 1-2 years. You just need a better defensive position and reduce the optimism of space to merge.
@@tarragoni4161 in CA you still have to meet the minimums for signaling a lane change which is a minimum of 100 ft and 5 seconds of blinker before changing lanes. Even in states where it's not explicitly illegal, most make it less legal whenever there is traffic as safety is hard to guarantee.
@@chestermartin2356 oh in the us you have to wait a certain amount of feet or time for each lane you change I forget which one or how much I don’t follow it lol. 99.9% of cops don’t care but if you’re in a high crime area at a bad time of day they may use it as an excuse to pull you over and see what you’re doing or if you have illegal things. If a cop pulls you over for it they’re looking for something else. I’ve seen it used on stings where they get a tip off about a car with let’s say weed in it, a marked cruiser follows them and waits for them to make the most minor mistake like this they then have probable cause to stop them and go from there with their actual intentions of the stop.
@@chestermartin2356 where I live (Lithuania) if you change lanes while crossing continuos white line, you get your drivers licence suspended for 30days.
I bet you don't stop fully at every stop sign. Everyone has made these manuevers, the only difference the tesla knew it was clear instead of cutting off people.
It would've been easier to just stick to the lane on the right, or take the center lane and merge to the right after the left turn. But it decided to be scumbag.
This has happened to me before as well where it wants to get into the leftmost left turn lane when it should really be in the rightmost lanes. And then at the last minute it tries to cut over when it could have put itself in the appropriate location at the beginning
@@tfGypsyKing correct, don't cross a solid line.. unless you start crossing it while that line is broken.. which is exactly what's done in this video. Not a ticket whatsoever. In fact, most people don't know this either, but you are allowed to cross a DOUBLE YELLOW as well; BUT only a double yellow where one of those lines is broken up (if you see one of these, the one line is only broken momentarily/briefly, and then turns back into a SOLID DOUBLE yellow. Huge ticket if crossed)
Right, but the computer doesn’t need to look forward to steer lanes and then sequentially check behind for the 2nd lane switch. It can do both at the same time because it’s a computer
@@blockobutter its also for making sure the people behins and in front of you kniw what you are doing. Turning a lane to the right, then turn off and on turn signal with a wait period of 2-5 second then turn one more lane over. This way everyone knows what your vehicle is doing, and is going to do.
@@jensenmusikk I agree, but it makes more sense to leave the right signal on. With the signal flashing and pause to shoulder check, it should be obvious what the car is going to do as you start to turn the wheels right.
@@blockobutter “Sorry that I cut you off, Officer, the car did it - I actually wasn’t looking at all” Yeah that’ll go over well. It’s still your responsibility to make sure your car is operating safely.
@@nesargent this definitely was not as horrible as some people's driving, but we expect autonomous driving to do a perfect job so it's not acceptable.
That's actually how to be a good driver, cutting people off is exactly what you shouldn't be afraid to do, and being afraid causes traffic. Tesla did an amazing job being a GOOD driver here. Most people would have been too pussy to take that open gap.
you'd probably still get in trouble for recklessness because as the person behind the steering wheel it's your responsibility to take over when it makes a mistake like that. letting the car just do its own thing without trying to stop it has led to a lot of accidents in recent years
Do this on the Jersey Turnpike. I left that crappy state a long time ago, but that turnpike is HELL to drive through lmfao. Everyone goes 90 with bumper to bumper traffic being aggro AF.
Did it as truck driver once. Fuck that. Also got to watch a woman almost kill herself by ramming into the posts of a bridge because she was on her phone instead of driving. Contrary to the Tesla fan boys, in my experience by allowing the car to drive for you it WILL result in people not paying attention abd playing with their phones or sleeping at the wheel.
I can say having a Tesla made merging into the roughest highways incredibly easy, due to the instant torque. Turnpike wasn't that bad with a normal car tho.
So that’s why my mom drives the way she does lol. She’s from Jersey but we’ve lived in Chicago my whole life but she still drives like her life’s on the line 💀
I usualy just appreciate the curiosity from what the ai is gonna do from these videos but the ai deffinitely had me rolling and the emoji was just perfect this morning lmao 😅
@@MickmickLP if you’re already crossing and it becomes solid it’s not a problem. The reason it’s solid is because they don’t want someone deciding to turn right AT the turn and yoinking themselves to the right.
@@amartyamishra6961 Traffic court does not care about your personal interpretation of the law. It does not engender confidence to see FSD casually neglecting traffic laws.
Literally crossed a solid white line technically a ticket PSA yes crossing a white line is a ticket as is not indicating you exiting on a off ramp at an exit or not indicating whether you’re going left or right at a fork in the road or not indicating going into a roundabout we all do it just don’t fight guys thanks
Idk, I feel like those solid lines are just to designate that the lane ends and you NEED to merge or turn. Most people get into turn lanes like that anyways, little sloppy but so long as it’s safe it should be fine. The real issue is double whites like from On/Off ramps
I mean it's not illegal in all states, such as California (where this video is taken from). You can find it by searching the streets East Duane and Indian Wells. Sunnyvale, CA. The car makes the lanes changes to get to the Lawrence Expressway. In such cases one should only cross a solid white line if it is safe to do so. Solid white lines are meant to discourage you from changing lanes. With this video the Tesla was already partially over into the next lane before it hit the white line. Even if it was only a small bit. I doubt an officer would be too worried about what occurred in this video. If the car was well past the white line, I think it would be a different story
@@daltonrich7658 literally seen someone stop in the dead middle of an intersection because I guess they looked up and noticed it had turned red. Instead of proceeding through like you’re supposed to, they just sat there til the light turned green again. I got it on dash cam but I was just sitting there watching it happen with my mouth open haha
I have issues with it getting in the wrong lane for the next turn. It also gets into this short right slow-lane that has a traffic light near the end. There are always agricultural big trucks that take a while to get up and go. FSD decides to get on the right lane every time, and that resulted in a rock cracking my windshield off those trucks. In the end I now consider FSD to have costed me an additional $1500 for my windshield replacement
I've done this before when in a hurry but always feel bad about it. I call this a "jerk merge" because it's usually something that jerks do. I usually don't get honked at for that because I only do it if the person in the next lane was asleep and lagging way behind. Instead, I get honked at in parking lots when people are creeping slowly towards me on the wrong side of the lane and expect someone in a little car to back up for them. If I just carefully go around them on their right, they freak out.
Guess I'm a jerk,I'll be in the far left lane and with one motion cross over everything and hit the off ramp and good to go. Usually gotta have good pedal work and know how your car moves.
Wonder how it would react if all the people in the lanes next to you were very aggressive drivers and left no room to lane change. See it all the time in rush hour. It’s like the people in the right lanes have a sense that you are trying to skip them by going to the left lane with less cars. Then they hug each others bumpers because people always have to be first.
Gotta be honest. That was stupid. Aside from being illegal it relied entirely on traffic in the right two lanes being slow enough that gaps opened up. Try this in a larger city during rush hour and it would have failed spectacularly. If this is what Tesla's ai is for their big trucks it worthless. Can't do stuff like this in a big truck.
The software in the Tesla assesses the traffic, people, lanes, lights and other inputs around it and then “decides” (or determines) what action to take based upon them. Not necessarily true “AI” as we think of it, but the car was doing the driving, so it gets the credit or blame for its actions. The problem here seemed to be a lack of thinking far enough ahead, like all the cars in the first turn who the narrator explains were all queued to take the immediate right after the left. The car was lucky other drivers gave it room. Would have been interesting to see how traffic would have become snarled if the Tesla couldn’t lane-change to the right without an opening and just sat there blocking traffic. That’s why that’s not how this is supposed to be done.
The reason they are backed up to the right is because some or most are either going straight or turning right because that is their only lane. Only the ones in the two left only lanes are definitely turning left.
Judging that is EXTREMELY subjective. What was he supposed to do instead? There isn't a set amount of time that you have to drive straight ahead after switching lanes before you switch lanes again. And there was an increment of time when the car was in the lane it first switched into, before switching lanes again into the right/final lane. This definitely was not an illegal maneuver, but a cop ABSOLUTELY could find away to give someone a ticket for it if they were bored enough..
"it's almost like it made all those lane changes at once instead of being 2 maneuvers" Yes that's exactly what it did was make multiple lane changes and could be ticketed for it
But it exactly did *NOT* what people do. The people where lining up middle and right lane just as the driver explained and the tesla went left to agressively lane change which only it did and noone else
you have to occupy each lane independently which is done in this video. in other words you can’t drive horizontally across traffic. as long as the vehicle is completely in the lane (not one end in the lane and one end out) it counts as occupying the lane
@@slr874 in California, you have to stay in each lane long enough to signal your change into the next lane, which is 100 ft per lane. if you can't do that, you just don't change lanes. there will always be a different route to get to your destination. You don't have to take that particular one just because Google is doing your thinking for you.
It's amazing to me in my lifetime that Tesla is so close to self driving yet to others it's " dumb and stupid" because it's not perfect. it is improving and will continue to do so.
It’s not that it’s „not perfect”, it just literally can’t identify turn lanes, it’s such a fundamental issue that causes illegal maneuvers, yet it isn’t fixed
“To properly change multiple lanes, the driver must occupy each lane independently before changing into another lane” This varies by state but implies that vehicle autopilot could potentially land you a ticket in some states.
@@takingafatdump Except you're completely wrong and spreading bullshit, which is why your "to the best of my knowledge" shows you have 0 knowledge onn the situation.
Pass all fun and games until Siri gets mad you haven't talked to her in a while and she takes the wheel
Luckily this is a Tesla and not an Apple
Jexi who 💀
SIRI TAKE THE WHEEELLLLLL
@@Fifth_Entertainment facts
Elon takes over the wheel😂
Officer my tesla made the aggressive lane changes, I swear 😂😂😂😂😂
Cop: "Sir this is a 96' Accord"
@@mrjth10000 "But officer, it identifies as a Tesla"
Jesus: Thanks for joining me. I told you humans not to trust those computers.
@@mrjth10000 it's actually a 97 civic with a spoon engine peace ✌🏼 💨
@Donald Trummp you get that from Harry's?
Crossed two lanes in one maneuver and crossed a solid white line 😂
Lines are not walls :)
Crossed two white lines. On entry to junction and when leaving. That's two strikes and an automatic fail on EU driving license. Twice.
it clips them man... and it telegraphed its moves well and was very safe.
Technical correct maneuver is two distinct independent signal lane then changes is my understanding, isn't it? Other drivers can't predict you moving more than one lane.
@@MK_094 Cool story. Still an illegal maneuver. I thought computers were supposed to be better at driving than monkeys.
Still better than 90% of Florida drivers which includes myself
I live in Montreal, you’d have 4 cars tailgating you, 3 that just refuse to let you in, and one flipping you off in french
Oui Oui tabarnAk calis
How do you flip someone off the french way? Waving a white flag?
sounds miserable
@@kameeI it is. It fucking is
In douchebag french*
Those were very kind drivers. I honestly expected them to be an inch apart making sure nobody could sneak in.
you dont find it sus that the car infront of him at first is a tesla and the car he needs to get behind to make the right hand turn is also a tesla? its set up for stupid youtube videos to push shit electric cars
@@noidontthinksolol critical thinking skills at an all time low clearly. You think they closed off an entire main road, cross road, and multiple intersections to film a simple video of a car changing lanes? Just be because 3 out of the 20 or so cars in the clip are Tesla's?
@@panthergame you don’t need to close the whole street. You just need a few cars and a few tries to get this to play out how you want.
@@noidontthinksolol Take off the tinfoil hat. Teslas are VERY common nowadays and especially when you drive in certain wealthier areas, certain vehicles will show up more often.
@@fredr0fc not everything is a conspiracy. I see Teslas EVERYWHERE where I live. I normally see at least 20 of them a day, they're incredibly common here.
The chances of there being multiple Teslas next to each other is incredibly high, I see it all the time lol.
One of the most telling gaps in these systems is that it only knows what it sees. The pedestrian cross the street is "lost" as its obfuscated from the sensors passing in front of the other cars.
This may seem trivial but the ability to predict what one hasn't seen is probably the most important part of driving.
They supposedly added that ability to the beta. Maybe just not on the visualization. Basically it remembers what was seen and prepares/looks out for it.
You assume most regular average Joe's do that or even pay attention enough to do that.
@@MisterPhysics511 object permanence is something toddlers have already
@@NJ-wb1cz a lot of people definitely don’t use that perk.
@@NJ-wb1cz Litterally what toddlers don t have! that s why peakaboo works so well!
In many states you could get pulled over for that. You crossed two lanes without stopping. You're supposed to pause once you move over one lane so people realize that you intend to move a second lane also. Otherwise it can cause accidents. I've seen it happen.
I think it was done slow enough that no cop is going to pull you over. It was actually done pretty smoothly and safely.
Uhh, his turn signal was on??? drivers who have their signals i respect, but it's when drivers don't have their signals and then turn two lanes I have a problem with.
@Laba Daba I don't really have a problem with it either. I was just pointing out that in many states it's technically illegal to make a lane change across multiple lanes without stopping before moving to the next. Even if your turn signal is on. I just found it weird for Tesla to program it to do something that is technically illegal. Though you probably wouldn't ever get pulled over for it.
@@Midwestmint It does pause between lanes though. I think you may be overthinking that law. It's not designed for this type of thing. It's designed for people that dart across all the lanes quickly and dangerously. What was done here was perfectly legal.
Whatever
That's what happens when you train an AI on Californian drivers
California driving is pretty close to Indian driving. At least here in Bay Area. I can't see the coincidence though.
By californian drivers you mean the people that moved here from NewYork and took the metro/taxis their entire lives,
then bought a car in CA only to be blamed for being californian drivers correct?
Thats what youre supposed to do technically according to the law. No one does it, but the tesla is only following traffic laws
@@AshikVetrivelu no one cares about India bro
designed in california
It's crazy how even AI ignores the rules of solid white lines.
Right front wheel passed on the right side, didn’t it?
Its not illegal in some states
@Tj Sheras doubt the tesla detects which State its in and looks the laws up...
@Koltan Weaks you guys act like you have never broken any rules. You probably speed to and from work everyday . 🤣
@@tjsheras9280 at what point did I say I don't break rules lol. But an AI driver shouldn't lol
remember fellas, slowing down is recommended instead of driving recklessly
I love how it knows that’s a solid white but, like a human, it just says “screw it”. 😂
Try this in Michigan where no one allows anyone to merge in front of them
Next exit i guess then :D
Agreed. In MI there wouldn't have been that much of a gap between cars.
@@dweiss1 gab
@@soarstar which is the exact opposite of how people should be logically driving. Half the people driving lose their minds when traffic from an on-ramp is trying to zipper merge, when everyone is stuck going 15 mph.
I was thinking this exact thing. Ppl wouldn't let him in so easy over here
It passed a solid white line. And this would not work where I live… people wouldn’t let you in 😂
The longer I live in rural Canada, the happier I am with drivers here. They're not the sharpest, but they'll let you in if you're having a moment of stupidity.
@@ulogy I live in socal and drivers here aren't the sharpest either. At least they're nice where you live.
Who told you that you CAN'T cross over a solid white line?? You need to take another driver's ed course😂😂
The only lines you aren't supposed to cross are DOUBLE solid.
@@jaysrandomnesschannel I never said you CAN'T cross it.. Also, I think YOU need to take a drivers course because you shouldn't cross either of them. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean you should do it. Crossing a double solid is illegal and you CAN'T do it. Crossing a single solid isn't illegal, but it's bad to cross them. It's a solid line for a reason dude. It's there to prevent accidents and/or traffic jams.
@@ilovehotdogs125790 but you mentioned it...
Tesla FSD is taking notes watching Family Guy "I turn now, good luck everyone else". 😂
As a southeast Asian, I didn’t realise why that whole procedure would be problematic 😂
Exactly... Why is switching lanes 2 consecutive times illegal there?
Right! As a south American, I can relate! 🤣 I thought he would have to turn right at the first traffic light and that would be very problematic... But everyone turned left and only further ahead there was a single turn right lane. I see that the solid lane trespass was an issue, but had it made before that point it would be reasonably ok, I guess 😅
@@pastelpink5587 Its just a higher safety standard. Changing lanes in inherently dangerous so we're limited to doing 1 at a time
I believe this is called "being an asshole". I didn't know computers could capture that so well, lol.
op was def a bmw driver before this
Computers are programmed by humans, which meands they can be both: helpful genious and stupid assholes at the same time.
Was hoping for this comment
@@MooseGaming33 this ain't reddit kid
@@bettafishlive1 “OP” isn’t Reddit specific, it just means original poster
Those lane changes are illegal in some jurisdictions. Some states you can only do a single lane change at a time.
Same in Denmark
That's a disgrace lol
@@iROMine Its called safety. Multiple lane changes at ones make it harder to predict where a car is going. You never know if they will just continue to change lanes.
@@martinfisker7438 he even crossed a Whole white lane which is also illegal. Good AI :-)
I mean it’s America home to some of the worst drivers imaginable plus terrible road design, car dependent society and no joke 0 public transportation outside of major cities and awful unsafe bike lanes poorly designed and never used.
Always watch these videos twice. Once looking at the graphics, and the second time looking at the live shot. It's amazing that this stuff exists now.
I drive like I'm in gta 5💀
Better than most drivers could've handled it tbh
Not really
@@Gl-my8fw yes really
@@chillies4156 if your need your vehicle to drive itself you shouldn't be driving
Most would use the middle lane so they don‘t cut any traffic and comparing it to the worst drivers that should not and might not have a license isn‘t a good thing
@@kylew1950 some people need this tho, like how do other drivers see two left turn lanes and not know to pull into the correct lane? Smh.
That's exactly how you're not supposed to change lanes. It makes you unpredictable when you cut across multiple lanes.
But in all fairness, if you have the lane change, then you have it. It was unpredictable but luckily they weren't tailgating each other.
Unpredictable? That’s what signal lights are for
@@BASED.88you still have to give other drivers "reasonable time" to notice your signal that car gave you 3-6 seconds tops when most people would be looking in front of them also shouldn't the car of stayed in its original lane to be safe.
Bullshit, i was taught this in my lessons. Just do it safely. If there is plenty of space to change across 2 lanes, go for it.
@@shawdcummings2160 the whole “3 seconds” thing does not work in the real world. Good luck driving in any big cities. By the time 3 seconds have passed I have already flipped my signal lights on and off and took my lane.
I think cautious / timid drivers are more dangerous than someone who is confident and will just take their position when there is room and it is safe to do so…Nothing worse than being stuck behind someone with their lights blinking for a few seconds and then having to wait another 5 to 10 seconds for them to slowly drift over. Slows traffic right down
The last lane change crossed was solid line.
...yeah, and check out how smooth it does cross a solid line LOL
It's crossed a solid white lane lol that's a ticket in my area.
It was already crossing before the line turned solid. Sounds like the cops in your area have nothing better to do
@@falalala83 laws are laws regardless of hows petty you think they are
@@falalala83 no it wasn't
@@falalala83 sounds like you don't know what you're talking about
@@lambbosbread123 Victimless crimes are not crimes.
Just remember this, bad drivers never miss an exit.
Ashole drivers are still good at driving😂
One almost made me hit them today...
pfp checks out
I purposely do that. To get in front of the sheep
I miss turns all the time because it would just make me look like an ass in front of everyone if i went for it
I‘m more impressed about the distance the other cars keep from each other. In Stuttgart they would honk for keeping that big of a gap.
There would be only two cars passing the green light and another two driving over red light.
Lane changes have improved to such a high level of smoothness and confidence that I'm honestly impressed. It's reached a level above my own confidence in right squeezes without compromising safety with the other vehicles.
Totally agree! FSD Beta is always improving....
Now imagine if none of the cars gave the AI room to merge. GG.
It simply wouldn't merge and would probably then alter the navigation.
@@kieran7655 No it wouldn't. It would slam on the brakes and park in the middle of the road. The Tesla self drive is notoriously terrible at this
@@kieran7655 Either way it screwed up hard and I would never expect to be able to merge 2 lanes directly after a turn.
@@ShiloBuff are you serious? It changed lanes one at a time and waited until after the intersection. It was flawless execution.
@@mrd2500 I don't think you get my point. It chose the far inside lane when it has to merge twice. You cant expect drivers in other lanes to give the right away for a quick merge. That's where it messed up.
Im low-key impressed how damn early the pedestrian was detected 😳
now if only I could detect bicyclists that easily.
@@AlexandarHullRichter or a motorcycle at highway speeds
@@mjohan4998 yes, seriously! Did you see why the Tesla just ran over the motorcycle from behind? It's logical, but a major, horrible failure.
@@AlexandarHullRichter Or the rolled over box truck it just plowed into?
.....are you? It should be one of the most robust detection systems Telsa should have.....
Dude that turn in Sunnyvale I see it often :)
You just pissed of 15 other drivers who waited long long to make that turn
Why did they even wait there then? It's about efficiency, believe me that if autopilots handled most of the stuff, the line of cars wouldn't even exist other than for the red light in front
Beta saw that Amazon van and was like hold my algorithm I got this.
😂"...hold my algorithm."
Well done, mate.👏
An a DA I lol’ed at this lmao noticed it too 😂
ChOL 😂 (That’s chuckled out loud.😁)
Wow is that a Maryland Driver setting they added to FSD? Did it prompt you to extend your middle finger to all of the highlighted vehicles to the right as you pass them?
Hahaha Maryland drivers are the worst! Anytime someone cuts me off or does something reckless near me on the road, 90% of the time I guess it’s a Maryland driver… I’m right 😂
Damn dude you really got me with this one I fucking hate driving there
its road legal dummy
As a Maryland resident, this comment makes sense to me 😂
Add Columbus as a setting and watch angry drivers attempt to shoot your windows out on the I-85.
I've seen several people fail stuff like this and it pisses me off to no end
At least the robot knows to turn into the closest available lane and merge over only when clear, unlike 90% of drivers. It’s irritating if I’m taking an outer right or left turn lane and some doofus thinks they are allowed to turn into any lane they choose and completely disregard adjacent turning lanes. Hell, even law enforcement doesn’t follow this simple concept!
I got a warning ticket for doing this. You must “claim” a lane before you can switch to another. That’s what the officer said.
Officers are allowed to lie. Just saying they are not a good source of info on this.
@@danharold3087 that’s true but this one was telling the truth. You do have to fill occupy a lane before you merge to another one. I’m not sure how they quantify what “claiming a lane” is but the law does say you have to go one lane at a time
@@greenxdshadow6635 From the comments here it is clear that the law is not uniform on this point. My point is that whatever the law is FSD will have to accommodate it. This should not be seen as a FSD bug.
@@danharold3087 definitely agree on that part
Good, I hate people that merge right after. Too many times I’ve seen people jump 2-3 lanes over in seconds. That’s how you cause an accident. Ooo even worse when people don’t use their signal right, wait few seconds before merging and turn it off AFTER you’re fully in the lane.
The thing that this can’t account for is the drivers on the other lanes seeing your intent to turn and deciding they’ll block it lol
yeah, i think self-driving would be great if it wasn't for humans. Thats why i think it shouldn't be allowed would really only work if humans weren't allowed to drive lol.
The problem is the large number of people who still drive non-Teslas.
@@richardlee1472 eventually that should be how it is. If every car were self driving we could literally eliminate traffic as a whole, since congestiob happens when someone slows down and all the cars behind him have to slow down as well, but if every care drove the exact same speed at all time it would never happen.
@@NocturnalPyro I just can’t see people having the discipline to control their emotions. For some reason when folks see someone trying to merge, they instantly step on the gas and or/slow down in a way that doesent let you merge when you slow down. They have to assert their dominance in front and behind their car. Putting that feature on doesent mean most won’t just drive manually anyways
It'll get there.. this hostility parameter will be accounted for in 1-2 years. You just need a better defensive position and reduce the optimism of space to merge.
That was some F1 level manouvering.
So smooth it cuts solid line... I bet driver doesn't know basic traffic rules either since he didn't even made a notice.
Look how smooth that steering wheel is, like it did it in one manoeuvre… you aren’t meant to change two lanes in one go
depends on where you live but in most states its legal as long as you arent impeding traffic
@@tarragoni4161 in CA you still have to meet the minimums for signaling a lane change which is a minimum of 100 ft and 5 seconds of blinker before changing lanes. Even in states where it's not explicitly illegal, most make it less legal whenever there is traffic as safety is hard to guarantee.
I was also under the impression you cannot make multiple lane changes at once.
@nys that's a dumb law that has never worked, signaling 100ft before will misinform other drivers haha
@@nysiswatching That's why they only allow it as long as your doing it safely and not impeding traffic
Lmao till you get cited for improper lane change “sir it wasn’t me I swear”
that was a perfectly fine lane change...
@@Ryzot illegal in the eyes of the law. I’d have no problem with it. You can get pulled over if the cop wants to be a dick tho.
@@cpkvidz6096 how was it illegal? there was a broken white line...In the UK that means you can cross over it, is it different over there?
@@chestermartin2356 oh in the us you have to wait a certain amount of feet or time for each lane you change I forget which one or how much I don’t follow it lol. 99.9% of cops don’t care but if you’re in a high crime area at a bad time of day they may use it as an excuse to pull you over and see what you’re doing or if you have illegal things. If a cop pulls you over for it they’re looking for something else. I’ve seen it used on stings where they get a tip off about a car with let’s say weed in it, a marked cruiser follows them and waits for them to make the most minor mistake like this they then have probable cause to stop them and go from there with their actual intentions of the stop.
@@chestermartin2356 where I live (Lithuania) if you change lanes while crossing continuos white line, you get your drivers licence suspended for 30days.
bro the real-time environment is so cool
Sorry officer, I must’ve set it to California Mode!
I like how impressed he is with the illegal multiple lane change.
I was thinking the same thing! It changed lines through a solid white line!
@@codywhatshisface7220 Yep, two major fails here. No license for you, FSD!
I bet you don't stop fully at every stop sign. Everyone has made these manuevers, the only difference the tesla knew it was clear instead of cutting off people.
@@ogzombieblunt4626 apparently everyone drives like a Saint on here and knw "the law" 😂
And then a pretty violent slamming of the brakes.
Your autopilot illegally merged, you have to do two separate merges
Dudes letting Elon get him traffic tickets
Different in some states
@@BillyHudson1 idk I think he could show the video as proof he wasn't the one driving 🗿
Only in certain states
@@s.m.fmania7212 second merge was across solid line tho
You have to see me changing lanes with one hand only.. masterpiece
That was really good! Very smooth timing too.
Did an illegal maneuver, dope.
Two in fact, double lane change and cut across solid white.
It would've been easier to just stick to the lane on the right, or take the center lane and merge to the right after the left turn. But it decided to be scumbag.
Reading these comments I feel like I'm in fucking crazy town. The machine broke the fucking law, that's a bad thing 😂
Tesla's also don't come to a complete 0 mph stop at stop signs. Bet you don't either.
@@jhanley788 means it's not smart enough and don't blame fsd if you got fined
I live in Miami. This is how everyone changes lanes.
This has happened to me before as well where it wants to get into the leftmost left turn lane when it should really be in the rightmost lanes. And then at the last minute it tries to cut over when it could have put itself in the appropriate location at the beginning
Crossed a Solid line 🎫
@@doyleelad1113 dude DON'T CROSS SOLID LINES is the rule 😂
It is frowned upon, but it is not illegal to cross over a “double” white line.
Single solid is not illegal, dimwhit!
Not in California where this video is from.
@@tfGypsyKing correct, don't cross a solid line.. unless you start crossing it while that line is broken.. which is exactly what's done in this video. Not a ticket whatsoever. In fact, most people don't know this either, but you are allowed to cross a DOUBLE YELLOW as well; BUT only a double yellow where one of those lines is broken up (if you see one of these, the one line is only broken momentarily/briefly, and then turns back into a SOLID DOUBLE yellow. Huge ticket if crossed)
Technically when you lane change, it should be two separate lane changes for safety. Shoulder checking each time.
Right, but the computer doesn’t need to look forward to steer lanes and then sequentially check behind for the 2nd lane switch. It can do both at the same time because it’s a computer
@@blockobutter its also for making sure the people behins and in front of you kniw what you are doing. Turning a lane to the right, then turn off and on turn signal with a wait period of 2-5 second then turn one more lane over. This way everyone knows what your vehicle is doing, and is going to do.
@@jensenmusikk I agree, but it makes more sense to leave the right signal on. With the signal flashing and pause to shoulder check, it should be obvious what the car is going to do as you start to turn the wheels right.
@@blockobutter “Sorry that I cut you off, Officer, the car did it - I actually wasn’t looking at all”
Yeah that’ll go over well.
It’s still your responsibility to make sure your car is operating safely.
@@nesargent this definitely was not as horrible as some people's driving, but we expect autonomous driving to do a perfect job so it's not acceptable.
...which is illegal. But anyway, cool that it drives so smoothly and knows how to get the best of a situation.
Well that solid white lane was the dream of every examinator
Teaching a computer on how to be a bad driver makes alot of sense
Aren't you excited yet?
That's actually how to be a good driver, cutting people off is exactly what you shouldn't be afraid to do, and being afraid causes traffic. Tesla did an amazing job being a GOOD driver here. Most people would have been too pussy to take that open gap.
How is getting in the lane faster being a bad driver? Not everyone wants to go 5 mph waiting for you to finally commit 🤦🏻♂️
It's can be seen as an illegal lane change
Right. Not how you make two lane changes. You're supposed to make one. Keep driving and check, then make the second one. Not supposed to do two as one
Got lucky the other lanes didn't hit the gas hard. Would love to see what it would do then.
ngl that was smooth af and i wouldnt have pulled that off
I'd love too see the police officers face when they find out no one was driving the car.
you'd probably still get in trouble for recklessness because as the person behind the steering wheel it's your responsibility to take over when it makes a mistake like that. letting the car just do its own thing without trying to stop it has led to a lot of accidents in recent years
Double lane change can be dangerous
It’s more human like. And it’s not illegal
The Car has multiple eyes and can see far more than we can. Also it is seeing spots that for a human driver would be blind spots.
@@nicos3druck303 I wonder why FSD got recalled if Tesla’s are better than a human at spotting blind spots as you say.
Car can see more then a human can, so it really isn't that dangerous.
@@Nthsey It got recalled because it was violating certain traffic laws. That has nothing to do with the safety of this maneuver in question.
Do this on the Jersey Turnpike. I left that crappy state a long time ago, but that turnpike is HELL to drive through lmfao. Everyone goes 90 with bumper to bumper traffic being aggro AF.
Did it as truck driver once. Fuck that. Also got to watch a woman almost kill herself by ramming into the posts of a bridge because she was on her phone instead of driving. Contrary to the Tesla fan boys, in my experience by allowing the car to drive for you it WILL result in people not paying attention abd playing with their phones or sleeping at the wheel.
I can say having a Tesla made merging into the roughest highways incredibly easy, due to the instant torque. Turnpike wasn't that bad with a normal car tho.
So that’s why my mom drives the way she does lol. She’s from Jersey but we’ve lived in Chicago my whole life but she still drives like her life’s on the line 💀
NJ Turnpike is not for the weak or weary.
Lol growing up driving on NJ roads and highways at least makes me feel prepared for when I hit the rest of the country!
That "smooth" double lane change was actually an illegal maneuver. You are supposed to change one lane at a time.
I usualy just appreciate the curiosity from what the ai is gonna do from these videos but the ai deffinitely had me rolling and the emoji was just perfect this morning lmao 😅
Ah, yes. Very smooth. Breaking lane change rules multiple times in one move.
I dont see a problem there were no cars around and it wasnt dangerous
Not only that but it crosses a straight line, that's a rule break as well in the usa no
Crossing a straight line
@@MickmickLP if you’re already crossing and it becomes solid it’s not a problem. The reason it’s solid is because they don’t want someone deciding to turn right AT the turn and yoinking themselves to the right.
@@amartyamishra6961 Traffic court does not care about your personal interpretation of the law. It does not engender confidence to see FSD casually neglecting traffic laws.
Literally crossed a solid white line technically a ticket
PSA yes crossing a white line is a ticket as is not indicating you exiting on a off ramp at an exit or not indicating whether you’re going left or right at a fork in the road or not indicating going into a roundabout we all do it just don’t fight guys thanks
That means the system is doing a job of emulating human behavior
Sheep
@@Michael-zn2jc facts we all do it but when he said it was smooth and did nothing wrong I’m like are you sure about that
Idk, I feel like those solid lines are just to designate that the lane ends and you NEED to merge or turn. Most people get into turn lanes like that anyways, little sloppy but so long as it’s safe it should be fine. The real issue is double whites like from On/Off ramps
@@dyldog Your "feelings" don't change the fact that a solid white means don't cross. You should already be in that lane.
It's ignoring all the painted lines. Completely ILLEGAL.
Are solid lines just decorations for you?
I mean it's not illegal in all states, such as California (where this video is taken from). You can find it by searching the streets East Duane and Indian Wells. Sunnyvale, CA. The car makes the lanes changes to get to the Lawrence Expressway.
In such cases one should only cross a solid white line if it is safe to do so. Solid white lines are meant to discourage you from changing lanes. With this video the Tesla was already partially over into the next lane before it hit the white line. Even if it was only a small bit. I doubt an officer would be too worried about what occurred in this video. If the car was well past the white line, I think it would be a different story
Yes
It crossed the line to the right lane like 1 foot after the line starts
Are solid white lines an obstacle to you?
There’s no way you’re serious.
lane changed over a solid line, thats breaking the law isnt it?
Yup. Solid white is a big nono. People do it but it's a guaranteed ticket if a cop sees it
It turned at the start of the solid line, so it just barely made it in my opinion
I guarantee no cop on earth would give a ticket for getting in the right lane. It's weird you think they would.
@Carl Gallagher It is a reason to stop you and waste 15 minutes, though
It actually crossed over before reaching the Solid line, but even if, it's not illegal to cross a single solid white line.
Of course I’ve had zero notifications for the past hour or so but as soon as I start looking at the steering wheel I get 7 texts
Jigsaw starts talking through the Tesla's Speakers: Hello there! I want to play a game.
If it can’t merge does it stop in the middle of traffic or reroute?
Good question My best guess would be reroute as safe option but still I dont know
It would reroute
No, tesla decided to program it to slam the brakes on and sit in the middle of the road.
@@Jonesy1701 Like a true American driver (or at least your average one lol)
@@daltonrich7658 literally seen someone stop in the dead middle of an intersection because I guess they looked up and noticed it had turned red. Instead of proceeding through like you’re supposed to, they just sat there til the light turned green again. I got it on dash cam but I was just sitting there watching it happen with my mouth open haha
Try this in the UK and you'll have Ronnie Pickering on your case in no time
Who?!...
@@gibbsm RONNIE FUCKING PICKERING!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂
Officer: Why did you cross the solid line?
This guy: Sir, sir chill... everything is alright. My tesla just got a bit of an attitude
I have issues with it getting in the wrong lane for the next turn.
It also gets into this short right slow-lane that has a traffic light near the end. There are always agricultural big trucks that take a while to get up and go. FSD decides to get on the right lane every time, and that resulted in a rock cracking my windshield off those trucks.
In the end I now consider FSD to have costed me an additional $1500 for my windshield replacement
The amount of details it can track is amazing
And still didn't get cod3d not to swap multiply lanes
Computer vision is so interesting
And still merged fast as fuck with nearly no warning
I've done this before when in a hurry but always feel bad about it. I call this a "jerk merge" because it's usually something that jerks do. I usually don't get honked at for that because I only do it if the person in the next lane was asleep and lagging way behind.
Instead, I get honked at in parking lots when people are creeping slowly towards me on the wrong side of the lane and expect someone in a little car to back up for them. If I just carefully go around them on their right, they freak out.
You don’t get honked at, but everybody’s calling you a cunt
I never feel bad about outsmarting traffic.
The jerks are the ones who dont let people merge.
Guess I'm a jerk,I'll be in the far left lane and with one motion cross over everything and hit the off ramp and good to go. Usually gotta have good pedal work and know how your car moves.
@@pyramidion5911both? One is increasing the level of risk for everybody near them and the other is also doing so. Equally jerk moves.
But if a driver instructor was in the seat, Tesla would fail the test. Each lane change requires a fresh signal light.
I have never see a triple lane turn in my 35 years of driving. That’s an insane concept.
first that was just lucky you had room and the other drivers were going slow.
also im pretty sure you can't legally make a double lane change.
Helps when other cars are also tesla that are going the same way
@@SWFLAerialGuylet's get murdering boys
“yOu cAnT lEgAlLy mAkE a DoUbLe lAnE cHanGe 🤓”
Yeah, you have to remain in your lane for 5 seconds before making another lane change, otherwise it's considered lane splitting.
@@genocyber4842 they are correct and imagine getting a ticket for something the computer did? It should be fixed in the software.
Wonder how it would react if all the people in the lanes next to you were very aggressive drivers and left no room to lane change. See it all the time in rush hour. It’s like the people in the right lanes have a sense that you are trying to skip them by going to the left lane with less cars. Then they hug each others bumpers because people always have to be first.
That Tesla is just as self-aware as I am, haha!😅😂
Gotta be honest. That was stupid. Aside from being illegal it relied entirely on traffic in the right two lanes being slow enough that gaps opened up. Try this in a larger city during rush hour and it would have failed spectacularly. If this is what Tesla's ai is for their big trucks it worthless. Can't do stuff like this in a big truck.
What AI? There is no AI involved.
@Triage Oh, come on, you know exactly what I meant!
The software in the Tesla assesses the traffic, people, lanes, lights and other inputs around it and then “decides” (or determines) what action to take based upon them. Not necessarily true “AI” as we think of it, but the car was doing the driving, so it gets the credit or blame for its actions. The problem here seemed to be a lack of thinking far enough ahead, like all the cars in the first turn who the narrator explains were all queued to take the immediate right after the left. The car was lucky other drivers gave it room. Would have been interesting to see how traffic would have become snarled if the Tesla couldn’t lane-change to the right without an opening and just sat there blocking traffic. That’s why that’s not how this is supposed to be done.
Ah, yes, the super awesome double lane switch in an intersection!
Lovely.
What it already made the full turn in the same lane then switched. You high
How else are you supposed to get across to the right turn otherwise?
@@spicysnowman8886
I like your sense of humor, my dude!
You get it!
The reason they are backed up to the right is because some or most are either going straight or turning right because that is their only lane. Only the ones in the two left only lanes are definitely turning left.
Tesla in front: Saved your spot bro, sneak in behind me
Here in Kenya we change lanes in the roundabout
Wait, what's wrong with it? If the line is dashed, it means you're allowed to. How else do you exit the roundabout?
Typical in France, Italy and Spain too. Freaks me out as a German 😂
Youre suppose to treat each lane change as a separate movement xD moving across both lanes like that would be a ticket where im from
Judging that is EXTREMELY subjective. What was he supposed to do instead? There isn't a set amount of time that you have to drive straight ahead after switching lanes before you switch lanes again. And there was an increment of time when the car was in the lane it first switched into, before switching lanes again into the right/final lane. This definitely was not an illegal maneuver, but a cop ABSOLUTELY could find away to give someone a ticket for it if they were bored enough..
@@jamesschmidt3191 but cops themselves do it all the time too
@@geraltofrivia4651 what do you mean? They do what all the time?
@@jamesschmidt3191 im my home state its states 3 seconds between merging so yes a designated time minimum is set
@@tdollars8052 I hope you have a stop watch in your hand so you can time it
"it's almost like it made all those lane changes at once instead of being 2 maneuvers"
Yes that's exactly what it did was make multiple lane changes and could be ticketed for it
How is this a year ago already? It feels like I just saw this come out!
It would never be able to do this in Boston. No one would let it in.
Do this over here and people will get out of their car to beat you up for your "smooth" lane change.
‘Here’
that is kind of silly to have such little patience
@@digidecks It's not about patience, it's about you cutting people off like that and you creating a dangerous situation.
@@onee nah I doubt they will beat anybody up its gonna be a massacre. If you want to confront me you better be ready to lose your life
Are there a lot of people with emotional issues where you are? There was hardly anything aggressive about this and no one on his tail..
Crossing solid line is apparently Tesla's fetish. It does it in every video.
I love that the Tesla self driving drives exactly like you expect a tesla driver to drive.
Damn, it did that exactly how a person would do it
That's what I was thinking. Really wasn't too bad I guess.
Minus brake checking three of the people it cut off.
You d9nt have driving knowledge do you
*how someone that can't drive would do it
But it exactly did *NOT* what people do. The people where lining up middle and right lane just as the driver explained and the tesla went left to agressively lane change which only it did and noone else
But the book of driving (California rules) states that you have to change lanes one at a time, not all in one swoop.
Huh, in Minnesota we were recommended to do multiple lane changes in one swoop
In Canada you can technically get a ticket for that, only 1 lane change at a time.
you have to occupy each lane independently which is done in this video. in other words you can’t drive horizontally across traffic. as long as the vehicle is completely in the lane (not one end in the lane and one end out) it counts as occupying the lane
@@slr874 in California, you have to stay in each lane long enough to signal your change into the next lane, which is 100 ft per lane.
if you can't do that, you just don't change lanes. there will always be a different route to get to your destination. You don't have to take that particular one just because Google is doing your thinking for you.
It's amazing to me in my lifetime that Tesla is so close to self driving yet to others it's " dumb and stupid" because it's not perfect. it is improving and will continue to do so.
It’s not that it’s „not perfect”, it just literally can’t identify turn lanes, it’s such a fundamental issue that causes illegal maneuvers, yet it isn’t fixed
@@clone7825 Does Tesla steadily improve their products yes or no?
@@clone7825 What company is 2nd In self driving and how's that going?
@@ExploringCabinsandMines it doesn’t matter at all if it’s steadily improving, that’s a literal straw man.
The safer maneuver isn't always a legal one
“your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
It changed lanes on the solid white line. That's a fine.
Iirc it's only on solid lines and intersections. Not sure if it applies to turn lanes however.
Depends on the state. In California it's legal to cross solid white
Sheep
Vert Karen, go learn how to drive, it's not illegal. 🫠
@@evanislost in california it is illegal to change 2 lanes at once though ....
“To properly change multiple lanes, the driver must occupy each lane independently before changing into another lane”
This varies by state but implies that vehicle autopilot could potentially land you a ticket in some states.
P.S. the quote is taken from Florida state trooper Steve Montiero. The statement after is my own speculation.
it's illegal everywhere in the US because its a federal standard. You have to travel for 5 seconds in each lane before changing again.
@@takingafatdump not true. See my above comment.
@@takingafatdump"To the best of my knowledge"
You must change lanes 1 at a time bud
@@takingafatdump Except you're completely wrong and spreading bullshit, which is why your "to the best of my knowledge" shows you have 0 knowledge onn the situation.