Old Motorcycle Won’t Start? Cheap Checks and Easy Fixes
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Got a stored motorcycle that won't start? Or even scarier - thinking of buying one? Here are the easiest tests and fixes to get her running again.
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At this point most followers don't even care what's the topic..Ryan f9 is so good we would listen to him even if it was a sermon.
Totally agree, i just set his video on playlist to have him talking. I love the content, i know nothing of bikes but i learn a lot from him!
I would listen to him talk about toilets
It's the script man , I love em
I disagree.
I hate gods & religions more then I like Ryan.
The edit, the scenario, and.. Ryan is perfect.
Sorry dude after that two wheeled dog came and stole the show from your two wheeled dog I didn't listen to that last part
This dog is semi-famous in North Van. If you've spent time there, you've seen it. Super nice.
Dog is also famous in Hollywood as Flealick.
Me either 😁😁
Agreed! The corgi was VERY distracting! Too cute
i didn't notice the dog at all because he had my full attention...so takes all sorts i guess?
Why did I not know about Viton cord stock until now?? I literally just bought specific float bowl seals two days ago
You can buy custom oring replacement kits that come with yards at different diameters and a jig for glueing
I didn't either. I used my 3D printer and TPU to make one.
@@maxxgraphix how's that hold up? wonder long term, between gas, heat, and vibration, but it would be nice.
There is also gasket sheet material which you can just cut to fit whatever you need to put a new gasket on
There is not a single channel on RUclips I like more than fortnine
@Scott Riverwood 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eh. I think "Action Movie FX" may be slightly better.
ruclips.net/video/GpiPirE3Qr0/видео.html
Agreed
@Scott Riverwood lol!!!!!
Right!?!
HOLY CRAP IT'S ROBYN THE CORGI!
Robyn's a famous North Vancouver resident. Amazing to see her in a Fortnine video.
Ryan F9 has his R & D office in North Van, somewhere in the vicinity of East Esplanade Ave.
Might as well mention the tires are likely rotten garbage.
SuperSneakySteve no doubt, it’s been sitting, every gasket on that SOB will start leaking, he’s in for a lot more than he thinks.
@@deborahchesser7375 As many old bikes as he has, I'm sure he is well aware
You don't think lol
@@deborahchesser7375 I started more than one fire by running old barn bikes that leaked fuel and had a hole in the exhaust. It can be a crazy mess, however, I think the focus was on making the engine run, everything else will need attention to be ridden more than down the drive way. Tires that seem ok will turn to dust in mere miles. Bushings become hard, the chain is dry, I hope there is oil in it too.
All that said, I had no idea custom gaskets were so easy. I bet I have half a dozen gaskets I could remake between two motorcycles and two 4wheelers.
@@residentmusician I concur about the focus on making the engine run; he alludes to it twice, once up front by saying car buyers should start on the "less trivial" end of the continuum, while owners should start on the easy end. That, and his near the closing comment about getting the engine running before worrying about the breaks, chains, etc, comes down to the idea of why work on a bike if the engine is shot. So, confirming the mill is viable is job #1. Not job # only! there will, in all likelihood, be other tasks for a bike that has spent most of my adult life sitting. But, there are rewards...the first time in x-years the engine turns over...the first time you squeeze the break handle, and feel actual, bona fide resistance...no one has even mentioned the transmission, yet! tires, lights, chain/belt bits and pieces...a muffler-shaped-object is important, too. Yeah, homey is got some work ahead of him. Lucky B*st*rd....
Top tip! If the ignition key is in a silly location (eg next to the left rear shock) then triple-check that you actually remembered to turn the stupid thing on. 85% of the starting issues I've had with old Kawasaki trail bikes were caused by this.
Wonderfully done!
Got a bike that won't start, Mr. Regular? ~RF9
@@FortNine Do collabs like the old youtube
@@FortNine you wrote the ultimate tutorial for our jalopy motorcycle tour! Www.reliabilityrally.com
I love both of your vids
Yoooo this epic
“Old motorcycle won’t start”
It’s broken sell it to me 😉
Fineline Industries me too 😂
Hang on I was promised first refusal months ago. ☹️
wish I knew how to fix my own bike, but I got it for $600 and barely ever been ridden...would cost more to fix than i bought it for and the bike itself isn't that great just a cheap 125 chinese pitbike. Got any tips on how to start a bike that hasn't been used in over 10 years and had fuel sitting in the tank the whole time? I tried most the tips in this video none worked
@@GrowingDownUnder Hello if you have spark and compression then just pour a little bit of petrol mixed with 2 stroke oil down the spark plug hole, just a little roughly about a cap full 2 or 3ml then refit the plug and try stating it again.
It should now run for a few seconds on that little bit of petrol you just poured down the sparkplug hole, so if it now starts & runs for a few seconds then stops again it's telling you it's a fuel problem/carburettor. ☺️
@@GrowingDownUnder drain fuel tank of old gas put fresh fuel with stabil or something similar replace Chinese spark plugs with ngk's and maybe ngk spark plug cap as well just make sure only one or the other has the resistor not both turn drain valve loose on carburetor check for good fuel flow put a uni filter on carb Chinese sparkplugs are notoriously bad rejet carb after installing unifilter or removing exhaust restriction some run yo lean or to little fuel straight from new change exhaust or filter changes tuning or if engine is gy6 whatch rolling wrenches videos clean carb screens or add a filter in line a see through filter if there is a vacuum operated fuel shut off valve the diaphragm go bad in those if it's safe to do so just eliminate the valve they are usually in the fuel line
Was that you hiding your shame because the gas was off when you tried to start it. Amazing
It was a staged joke. The answer was obvious, therefore pretty darn funny.
@@marcjohnson7882 complete engine rebuild then back to scene 2, lol
😂
I was thinking that it had something tot do with safety. He takes his helmet and after he puts it on the bike started. Maybe I'm over thinking it 😂
....kill switch....but has never happened to me...
The rolling dog!
most important part of the video
Hah, just knew he was gonna be a hit the moment I saw him out of frame
Doggo
As always great content and universal. Dirt bikes, cars any 4 stroke you can follow the facs. On 2 strokes I always pull the stator cover and spark plug so I can roll/rock the engine by hand and feel the main bearings. See if it’s worth spending the time on.
Dognine
3:30 he wasn't checking on the bike (͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)
Yeah that tarmac looks awful. Wouldn't trust my bike on it for sure..
Missed Connections: Polar Bear 4 Twunk.
Ryan got them CHEEKS
That dog at the end doe
Love of two wheels is apparently universal
It was a subliminal msg. from Ryan F9 ...
about what he was really thinking about that late 70's Honda CB360T ....
and that msg. is ....
"two dogs, on two wheels"
"ultra violet light and ultra violent mice" I love it :D
And ultra virulent zoomers.
I don't get it?
@@blackwersus which one?
@@markmark2961 All of them lol
@@blackwersus literally it is in the video :) play with the words. ultra violet light and ultra VIOLENT mice. English is not my native language, it is hard for me to detail you the joke XD
Me: Knows how to check out a bike that doesn't start
Also Me: Watches FortNine video anyway just because i love them
Likewise & I still watched, now I am reading comments and replying lol.
I sheet you not: I’ve had a *‘76 CJ360T* in my garage for 20 years, unused, not started once, bought from eBay in Seattle in the late 90s. The CJ is identical to the CB except for having *drum* brakes front and rear, and a *kickstarter* rather than an electric.
I’ve been trying to motivae to deal with it this summer; guilt and dread have held me back. God spoke to me through this video. Or the algorithm. The point is, it’s time.
A tip: watch the video in slow mo so that it lasts longer
Just got my Yamaha SR500 (1989) revived last month, after it stood for 7 years. Wish I had seen this video before.
I'd love to see a little more Content on older Motorcycles like this one!
I have a project 1982 Yamaha SR250 that I'm having issues with the brakes. I fixed EVERYTHING on the bike except for the brakes. They just don't wanna tighten.
@@joemilich Replace them? They're not that expensive.
I'm old (68) and I have an SR400. I have four bikes total but I'm shopping for a Yamaha XS650. I just love the engine on that bike.
This perfectly describes my springtime ritual with my lawnmower.
"Viton Cord Stock" I never even heard about this. Amazing. Thanks Brother. Another reason why i love FortNine.
Someone needs to give that pup some knobbies. Can't off road with slicks.
The thing about Ryan is that he cranks out stuff that nobody does. He makes it logical and scientific and doesn't care about etiquette. Pure honesty and the scientific method (to a certain degree and most of the time) are his landmark. A mark nobody else reaches in quality and content by the way. As a matter of fact it is scary to think about how he is coming up with all this off the hook stuff. And here is exactly why we love Ryan from Fortnine. He is in a league of his own 'cause nobody can talk about motorcycle stuff with a science spin as confident as he can. Nobody is more professional, serious and funnier than him. Nobody knows more about teaching the viewers about motorcycling science more effectively. Nobody works as consistently at the same high level and shocks the viewers with another off the wall review each time. Continue to razzle dazzle us and spin our heads Ryan... maybe a review why motorcycling under the influence is dangerous... throw charts and calculations at us... ending up with a bunch of liquor using a wet lab to prove your point... hmmmm... we love your stuff Ryan F9... whatever you come up with next...
Great tip for old motorcycles - change every bulb for LED. Less drain on the battery / alternator, less chance of those ancient spade connectors frazzling. And remember to change the flasher unit for an LED - or the flashers wont. Thanks Allan! No problem Ryan!
Great idea! Though you should take care to get the specific type of bulb, in order for it to work with the reflector.
Doubt it. Waste of time and money. Keep it original . Most LED bulbs are made in China and very poor quality . Your local gas station won't stock them either when you are stuck without lights ...
@@waynepantry7023 extra bulbs take up very little room
That moment when Ryan posts a video about the thing I’m in the middle of googling
it's almost as if the season is just starting and thousands of us are doing the same thing 😂
Same....I'm trying to breathe life into a Gen.1 KLR650!!.... Why do petrol taps take so long to be delivered???
@@team419 lol scepticism how dare you it's predetermined fate. 👍
Seriously
For an engine that's been neglected, i like to give it a bit of oil down the spark plug hole before cranking. Not a whole lot, just lubricate the piston rings while the engine's own oil starts flowing again
Great to see and hear you, Ryan...hope this finds you and yours well! Glad to get a well-needed Ryan fix!
I'd add two things...first, check that engine oil! While it won't magically disappear, innumerable heat and cold cycles may have added condensation, perhaps diluting that all important lubricant. I've been over numerous "in storage" bikes and always make a habit of starting with fresh fluids.
The other biggie is check the tires. If that bike has been in storage for any length of time, the tires are probably cracked and rotted. Be a shame to do the work to get it running, only to crash on the test ride because a tire (or two) failed...
Cheers! 😎
Great points
20 years of me being stupid summed up in 7 min.
I owned that bike! I was 16, just got my beginners’ permit and rode the girl all over northern Ontario. Great memories. Needed that! Thanks again for the awesomeness that is your content. Cheers.
I loved that bike when I was a kid, but I couldn't buy one :(
Me too...first bike I ever owned. I recall part of the front fender was missing LOL. That thing looks pretty tiny compared to my Indian Roadmaster though. Great video as always!!
Cheers
Kevin
My first bike also. Bought it so I could ride to my first job. Borrowed money from my dad, and took all summer to pay him off. Added crash bars and hooker headers and thought I was a big man. Remember replacing the cam chain tensioner one summer. Rode it to Dayton bike week in 79. Bought and RD400 to replace it. Thanks for reviving those days.
Had a 350 and a 360. 360 liked to fall over at low speed stops, good learner's bike! Fun!
The last comment about making sure your vintage restoration actually runs before you begin is excellent advice. I have spent several thousand dollars on a basket case 1960's vintage that now looks very nice, but many issues getting it running. Always great videos.
I never imagined a motorcycle diagnostic video would take me back to high school English class, but I'm not unhappy about it. Thanks for the informative and entertaining content!
And after one season you realize it's weeping oil out of nearly every seal on it.
That's just self-lubrication, it's fine.
Rust inhibitor
Thirty years ago I bought a oxy-act torch, a chainsaw, and a truck. in the past two years I replaced all the seals on all of them, and they are now all good for another thirty years. Nevermind about the other parts I put on the truck over the years. Also got a Suzuki 2000 650SV last year, and just replaced all seals and fuel lines this past winter. The worst were the choke plunger O-rings. I could have just stopped there, but by the time I found how bad they were, the carbs were halfway out.
Love the retro look of the Honda 360. My first bike was a 1970 Honda 350 "dual sport". It kind of sucked, but my next bike was a Norton 850 (1974) which I got in 1975. It was a four speed, kick start, vibrating, oil leaking, Whitworth threaded, beauty.
Thanks for the seal making lesson FortNine! X1000!
Sorted the fuel issue on my bike after buying a dud and then when it finally started I got a nice cloud of blue smoke that didn't go away...
Engine rebuild etc later, No more smoke issues :) wasn't worth the hassle
Ah pessimism, the salve of the lazy & dull . . .
The dog made my day😂😂😂
Having been working on two 72 Hondas this week, that intro was so close to home I laughed! Both run as of last night though!
i first read that you worked on 72 hondas this week xD
@@GameCyborgCh lmao sameee
@@GameCyborgCh I also thought that's a lot of Honda's. ☺️
Much needed video for this lockdown situation our bike not starts for long time period and then we try to start it it wont starts.
Love from Pakistan
One of the important part of motorcycle which is not available now a days is kick. My bike was also standing for 6 months, but it's kick saved me. After several tries it got Started.
The “Dog On Wheels” didn’t even care to look...!!! 😆 😆 😆 And by the way the Red switch was in the “Off” position, so the bike did not start for the second time. No magic...!!! 😉
3:52 keeping your tradesecrets safe, huh?
I think it was the Off-On-Run
I had the CL360 when I was a young lad back in the 1980s. Great bike, 6 speed transmission and the exhaust came up close to the seat making it a bit more appropriate if you wanted to do any off road shenanigans. Which I did. Such memories.
Absolutely love it. I would like to see more of this bike. This was my first street bike and I rode it too high school and college and sold it when I joined the Marines. Of course mine was the better version.... it was red. Nice work.
Same here. Rode it through high school and sold it before joining the Canadian Forces in 86.
Hold up, Yall see that spark plug MOVING in the head at @0:57 ?
prob. not screwed in all the way
@@chyrt Yeah most likely
Another awesome video guys! Thank you so much for the amazing, consistent, content to help keep us all sane while in stuck in lockdown or quarantine.
I hope RyanF9 and the whole FortNine family are safe and healthy. 😁
18 days into owning my first bike. You, sir, are an inspiration!
How is it so far?
This and your restoration in a can video are fantastic for someone staring down a fixer-upper bike. Keep up the great vids!
3:50 Only a true motorcycle mechanic knows what he did here.
Yep, been there done that too many times to admit it!!!
Do tell, please!
Tsubaki13 lol he just turned on the kill switch
@@tsubarider13 fuel petcock was set to off, move to on or reserve, carb boys know that failure
Multi-electrode spark plugs don't hurt.
Congrats on 800k subs! Keep up the good work.
Congrats on 1.23 million now. Strength to strength.
im going to try this. my 2001 Yamaha fz1 has been sitting for 8 years. has stabilized in it but I know that's a long time. please oh please work.
Ultra violent mice!!? Lmao you just gained a subscriber
I have a sport bike and two cruisers but I'm an old guy (68) and miss the old days so when I saw Yamaha's SR400 I had to have it. I mean come on, kick start only. It's so damn fun and wouldn't sell it for the world. But what I really want is a Yamaha XS650. Had one when it first came out and I'm sorry I sold it.
I just watch fortnine for Ryan. If only I lived in Canada or fortnine shipped to the USA
Their USA partner is Revzilla.
No point in having a good spark if its happening at the wrong time! check the ignition timing to make sure the timing marks line up in the right place too!...
Also what superglue are you using on that 'O' ring as cyanoacrylate will dissolve in petroleum based fuels?
this is going to be very useful for me, just found an old honda xl185s in an old shed
The British Biker I had an ’83. Xl185 when I was in college. It would do 74 mph downhill with my chin on the handlebars lol. Great times.
They probably gave Ryan all of their advertising budget and I’m all for it
Always fun to watch and learning in a fun way at the same time! You inspired me to start my channel! Thank you!
That's a really nice old Honda, that's a good looking motorcycle. the way motorcycles should look. not like these abominations that are supposed to pass for motorcycles today. I'll take a motorcycle that looks like a motorcycle any day.
A review is in line with this timeless beauty!
I nominate Ryan to be the next James Bud…
I watch your videos because I own a motorcycle and I want to learn something, but man, the video edit and the thought you put into each one its outstanding. Thank you for sharing this content.
Speaking of the edit, what do you think he did when the director/editor blocked the shot towards the end of the video
i got a used 2010 chinese virago vtwin 250cc (Same exact engine and looks, it's named Keeway Supershadow), it was only running the front cylinder and the bike was stored for a LOT of time in his garage.
When i checked it had 3L of oil(It stores 1.6L of oil) and the spark plug on the back cylinder was poorly placed...
Bought a new battery, new spark plugs, changed oil and filters and now it runs like a brand new bike, the problem was due to the owner not giving the bike the love that she needed.
It's a 10 year old bike and it only has 15.500KM done (About 9.650 miles)
The engine runs good but because he added twice the oil she needs it broke all the seals of the engine and now leaks oil...
Not really a big problem but i will take some time to fix it.
After the fix i plan to make it a bobber with some good open pipes hahaha
Man that old red kill switch brings back 3 wheeler memories!
If you sell that in India you could get it for nearly around $3000-4000. Especially if the engine is stock and you did a little clean up. This model along with the RX has a really rich history in India.
A couple seconds in....wtf..look at the color of that bike😍🥺
Was your a gas and kill switch off??
@Johnny Blue 😆
That's what I saw
I vote for switch on and sparkplug cap off?
It’s a beautiful blue. That’s why I have two in the same color 😅.
@@Hedgehogz979 there's a green mixed in there at angles. Like pearlescent
Just got my first motorcycle! It’s got 48k miles on it, but doing a front brake overhaul, oil, plugs, fuel tank, and shifter fixes, this thing has ran. Too bad spring break is right now because I can’t start the bike under her own power and own gas tank. (Petcock was bad)
There can never be enough F9 during lockdown😔
Me: I'm gonna buy a 50cc scooter because its cheap
RUclips: come on bro buy something bigger check out this video
IM IN SO FAST!
thats what he said
you wish she said that.
That pretty cool, I didn't know about the custom o ring cords. But what about the carby intake boots? Those things for old bikes can cost an arm and a leg.
Another great video! Thanks!
One word of caution, though: air embolisms are not a hoax, and 100 psi can be sufficient to break the skin barrier. So please borrow a compression gauge, and never do that with your thumb.
@Dan Moyer Spec for my XR compression is 199 psi (not very high). Curious what rubber gloves you have rated for that.
@Oliva Gina 100+ psi is 100+ psi, regardless.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read
I'm watching this for my 23old suzuk max100r 2 stroke 100cc
*doesnt have a cycle or license* watches every fortnine video released
0:07 wtf.. most epic shot of a fender I've ever seen.
Clicked and liked before even watching. LOVE old bike restorations
By far the best 5 minute plus some video on starting a motorcycle that has been sitting.
Re-building a VT500C Shadow. First time ever for me, to get into the innards of a bike. Your various videos are invaluable, and I'm learning lots and losing the fear of taking things apart... Thanks for that!
I like to use FACTS. Fuel, Air, Compression, Timing, Spark.
The dude in the old car appreciating the old motorcycle is such a scene. Different fonts, same words
I bought this bike from Ryan for my dads birthday. He loves it. Thank you
My father literally do this every day to start our 11 yrs old hero splendor with over uncountable kilometer ridden
Oh My.
So, my uncle decided to give me his motorcycle last year, an old girl from the 70s.
I was wondering how I would make it run and maintain it (it will be my first motorcycle).
What do I see? The most excellent bike channel on youtube *literally* doing an episode on the Honda CB360T, my uncle's old motorcycle?
FortNine, you just made week.
Merci, tabarn*k! :D
I don't mean to scare you, but depending on how long it sat, you might have to do a little top end rebuild. My CB250 sat for well over a decade, and when that is the case, the pistons will damage the cylinder by leaving a grove on the cylinder wall. You probably have to, at the very least, take off the cylinder and have it honed. If you don't you might suffer engine damage after a few hundred km's of riding. It was all over the forums when I tackled my bike. And in fact, my cylinders had quite the grove where the piston rings sat... So yeah, be warned and do it properly, to ensure having fun with it long term! Cheers!
A few dollars of rubber...hmm, what's on my mind?
Thank you for another helpful and informative video :-)
I have a challenge for you. Call it the "Bike Tool Kit Challenge".
Most motorcycles come with some sort of tool kit. Using ONLY the tools that came with the bike how many common maintenance tasks can you perform on it?
Are the tool kits supplied with "premium" motorcycles any better than those that come with "budget" motorcycles? If so, in what way are they better?
The best tool kit I have encountered was on a Jawa 350cc two-stroke that even included tyre levers and a pump.
That was me this morning 😂😂
1:55
"ultraviolet light and ultra-violent mice"
Lyrical genius 😂
My second bike was a 1977 CJ360T bought new. I miss that bike. :(
As long as you've got the spark plugs out anyway, spray a generous amount of WD-40 into the cylinder to free stuck rings. Preferably the day before trying to turn the motor over.
4:34 OMG The corgy is a two wheeler too! Such a lovely little rider!
We had a corgi when I was a kid. Best dogs ever!
I've been finding these long lost vintage Honda's all over the place. Tucked into sheds, back of garages and basements and barns, and every last one of them is begging to run. Nice low mileage examples are plentiful, but, flip side...so are the dogs that the son got a hold of and modified to oblivion. Choose your bike carefully and you'll be in it cheaper than the dollar street hotdog. Zip~
Maybe you could do a Video like (10 reasons your motorcycle does weird sounds and how to fix them) would be awesome because a lot of riders have some weird sounds but don't know what's wrong. Ps: love your videos, keep it up 👆
I am really sorry for my bad English.
Yee old fuel valve shut off, the main reason my kids (& ashamedly mine) bike shuts off after 3 mins...
This video is so incredible well done mate 🔥I really enjoyed this. I need a bigger garage i can work on old beauties like this. HAHAHA... the dog in the background 🤣
All good advice. Good too that you're keeping a classic running. The Honda 350 twin was their flagship bike until the 450 twin then the mighty 750 four. The 350 became the 360T to differentiate from the 350 four. The 350 four was a sales cool but became the popular 400 Super Sport. That was the first factory sport / cafe bike. History lives on with running motorcycles.
Thanks for the video man. Thumbs up from me :D
Had EXACTLY this bike except in orange and the high pipe scrambler version. Found it back by an old oil furnace at a garage sale. The soot covering everything protected it from rusting. Once running, it was a great little bike.
Saved by Soot?? What serendipity! ;)
that viton cord trick is genius!!! feeling at ease knowing I could make my own o ring.
That cb 360 looks damn great ryan
I know you’re US partners with revzilla but is there anything else us ‘mericans and do to support/buy from fortnine?
Hey Ryan what do you think about the upcoming Aprilia RS 660?
This fella is definitely the most interesting and intelligent American I have ever come across. _(maybe he spent time living abroad or something.)_
Canadian, eh. ~RF9
My old owners manual to Jawa 350 says this: If motorcycle dont start, there is nothing to ignite in the cylinders or you dont have spark.
P.S. That owners manual also contains schemes of engine (and bunch of other important stuff) and tells you how to do whole engine rebuild in your garage. Love it!
Ryan you didn't mention engine oil before starting,?making sure it has some 😊
Wont crank much.without oil
Hey, I love your videos. Especially ones involving old bikes, it might be a nice option when not reviewing new bikes.
By the way I've watched your 400k on a $400 bike, probably 50 times and I'm not going to lie I probably watched another 50 too.