Almost jars the first shot! Nice review as always. Thank you. Looking forward to the comparison to the old JPX. Especially the tour version. Also interested in a comparison between JPX 921F and the mp20 HMB.
Great review, would love to see the Forged 921 against ping i210 ! definitely my 2 contenders for my custom fit which is looking like it wont happen until next year. Rotator cuff surgery in mid Dec 2019, rehab postponed for 6 weeks in April thru May after being infected with COVID-19 ! My rehab is still not 100% complete and now have severe Athritis/bursitis in my left hip due to so much inactivity ! NO BUENO ! LOL Been getting hip treatments with my shoulder PT but it doesn't look promising to be fit enough to get full swings in before Nov. What is the word of the replacement iron for the i210 ? Im sure by next spring it will be out ?
Great review, really interesting to see the data between HM and Forged side by side .... still puzzles me how we get fitted for irons just hitting a 7 iron
A Mizuno release isn’t official until your reviews are posted. Looks like you hit the pin on the first shot 🙌. Like the new data presentation even though I liked the details in the old way as well
Very interesting that despite being almost 3mph less in ball speed, 2 mph less clubhead speed and 2 degrees weaker loft it was very close in distance to Hot Metal. Was it the 700 RPM lower spin that kept the distance close?
I have the JPX Hot Metal Pro's, just new this year. I like them a lot. I just got a 7 iron JPX Forged in the mail today, after 14 weeks. Trying it out tomorrow. Price point is a big factor, especially if you're not sure you can hit them damn things! I have forged wedges and love them, that's why I thought I'd try this out.
Hi Greg. Just wondering what you went for in the end?. I’m going for my own fit next week and would be split like you between the forged and HM. Cheers. Peter
@@peterkelly9655 Hi, i actually ended up with neither, after PXG launched the 0211 irons i got fitted for those instead. It is a great fitting experience and all free of charge. The 0211 irons are £119 each so slightly cheaper then the Mizuno. I'm very pleased with them, but i'm sure i would have loved the Mizuno's also.
@@gregcarnall9097 Thanks Gregg, not sure I know of anywhere in Dublin that fits PXG to be honest but I will have a look. To me there are so many options out there at the minute and you never know what will come out of a fitting but at the minute the options that Mizuno offer with the JPX line with all the different shafts, grips etc it just seems like I will definitely find the right balance in there somewhere. throw in the Fly-Hi hybrids as well which look great I think I will have a large collection of Mizuno come the end of fitting. thanks for the reply and best of luck with the PXG!
In May 2021 I was custom fit for Titleist T-200’s 2019 version. How do you think they compare in terms of forgiveness compared to the JPX 921 Forged ? One thing for certain if I hit my Titleist T 200s off-center they have a loud clacking noise. I was told because the head is not filled with epoxy you get this strange sound. This is why I’m leaning towards the JPX 921 forged but I may have to delay that for another year. These irons are not cheap! Great review Jay
Great review Jay, looking forward to seeing the 919 comparison. Could you compare against the Srixon z785? Or the new ZX7? Would be keen to see how these two Japanese "heavyweights" stack up in a face off
Need to H2H the Forged v HMB - for me they occupy a similar space at very different price points and it would be nice to do a compare/contrast of the 2 models
Mizuno now has a number of clubs that aren't that different other than marketing - MP20 MMC, MP20 HMB, JPX Forged - especially if you make all the 7 irons 32 degrees. I think Marketing / Brand wise, they should move the JPX Tour into the MP Brand as a stronger lofted 'modern' blade and move the MMC into the JPX Brand as the 'techy' blade. So MP would be (MP Blade, JPX 'cavity' Blade, HMB(make it 10% smaller)) and JPX would be (MMC Cavity Tech Blade, Forged, Hot Metal). HM Pro is not needed now with the new Forged
Hi Paul an insightful concept and one that makes complete sense. Unfortunately companies rarely listen to sense as they mainly listen to marketing guru's that sometimes know very little about the subject they advise on.....
Please compare JPX 921 Forged vs Cobra King forged irons. Ready to purchase a NEW set and Imput would be helpful. Currently play Wilson D-7 stiff shaft.
Nice review Jay. How do you find the 921 forged and hot metal clubs blend with the T20 wedges (As in feel between them)? I play the jpx 900 forged and use the Orka rs10 wedges and my orka gap wedge feels so different from my jpx900 forged pw. I’ve spent a lot of time working on my short game and find its really off putting as the feeling is so different between the two clubs.
Hi Jay - switched from Mizuno to Ping as swing got slower but would love to see how the JPX 921 HM compares to the G710. Always admired Mizuno, used MX 921 then MP52, then JPX EZ (horrid) before moving over to Ping GMax (actually good irons although very chunky) before G710 but not sure could play the 921 HM as well. Thanks
@askgolfnut the KBS $ taper claims to cut a load of spin. Would that shaft have impact on the low spin numbers ? I suppose one could weaken the loft a degree or 2 if more spin was needed.
Hi Jason, the lower spin numbers are from the head design and delivery angles specific to the golfer. The shaft has minimal effect on spin creation or removal. Having a very kicky flexible shaft can increase dynamic loft and therefore potential spin, however the more a shaft kicks then it will also lessen angle of attack removing spin loft.... So in reality the shaft has minimal effect on spin numbers 👍 Thanks for the comment and for watching.
@@AskGolfNut good to know! I must say, I'm jealous of your delivery, it must suck to be so neutral and send them down the pipe time and again. You likely don't get to enjoy the full left and right scenery of the Fairway like the rest of us 😅. Great reviews as always, one of the most trusted and thorough guys out there.
Hi Stephen, most if not all Game Improvement clubs are more toe biased for forgiveness, most players irons are middle to slightly heel. Rather than trying to find a club to suit your heel strikes (again it would all depend on how much heel) I would look to try and move that to slightly toe as a general miss as a toe miss is so so much more helpful than heel 👍 Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks for getting back to me that explains why I hit my Wilson V6 irons better than game improvement irons . I am working on slight heel strikes . Thanks Stephen
To me, it seems they've made the Forged into a Hot Metal Pro Forged type club - thus they don't need both. I'm an owner of the 919 Hot Metal Pros, bent 2 degrees weaker 7@32 degrees, and after seeing these reviews, I would now buy the Forged and weaken the set by 1 degree to hit my numbers and increase spin. I'm a 6 handicap and we have very similar numbers. I play PW-6 in HM Pro (47,42,37,32,28) then HMB 5@24 (don't like to see back of club and thinner sole better through turf). Can you see back of Forged 5 iron at address?
Borderline depending on ball position and your own head tilt location at address..... Not a very good answer I know but it does all depend on the golfers setup 👍
First, Thank you for your videos, very helpful and good data. That said, I am an 8-10 handicap. The more i play the the lower I score. I have ben as low as a 6. That said, I plan on playing more and like the Mizuno's. If it helps, I hit my 4 and 5 iron as good, or even better than my seven and 8 iron at times. This all said, would you recommend the Mizuno JPX921 Forged, Tour, or Hot Metal Pros. Your opinion is appreciated. Thanks, Mark
Hi Mark, not the channel owner but I play Mizunos and I’ve hit all 3. The Tours are undoubtedly amazing, BUT unless you’re a serious ball striker you won’t get the most out of them. Forged are fab clubs, easier to hit with the blade length and feel amazing. Wouldn’t play the HMBs given your handicap.
A little more help on off centre his, more ball speed from nominal strikes and well the looks side of things..... That's all down to what you want to look at when using them... Give both a test 👍
I'm not sold on this chromoly . I've had my Mp30s for 15 years and am looking to upgrade to the mp20 line. Long live the mp line with that COPPER underlay. Nothing better . End of story.....
You going to leave us hanging here? Just thought I’d follow up on what you found particularly in the forgiveness and distance in the long irons. Thanks.
Sorry Gary it was a request @askgolfnut. I did hit a few myself with the mmc & 921 forged 7 iron at range the other week, but left just as confused as I did before I hit them. I havent had my full fitting yet, but I'll be going with mmc with hmb 4,5,6 unless the jpx 921 forged impress. Currently gaming mp53 still.
Ok - thanks for clearing that up for me. Yes, I’ve hit the 7 iron mmc a while back and was very impressed. I’m looking for a new set of clubs with just a little more forgiveness in just the long irons, and a little more distance there as well. Might end up with that combo as well.
Yes, I do. I have used Mizuno MP irons for most of my adult life. They continue to be one of the very best players irons. Mizuno also make extremely good game improvement irons and many independent tests show they do. Any opinions and conclusions I give is always backed up with head data to show it physically rather than just what some people could see as a generalised bias statement. Key is in the head data 👍
No probs, it's just there for people that don't understand comments based on measured data and just stare at a cap and base their opinion on what logo it has 😊 Hope you enjoyed the content 👍
@@AskGolfNut ya I was just referring to your clothes. Everything you were wearing was Mizuno. Which is why I said, “I wonder if he likes Mizuno”. Wasn’t trying to ruffle yur panties. ✌🏻
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Nice video. Would love to see a comparison to Ping i210 irons and Mizuno MP-20 HMB vs the 921 Forged. I carry the HMB 5-7 irons.
Almost jars the first shot! Nice review as always. Thank you. Looking forward to the comparison to the old JPX. Especially the tour version. Also interested in a comparison between JPX 921F and the mp20 HMB.
Agreed ! 921 forged vs MP-20 HMB
Great review, thinking of upgrading from the JPX900 forged, would love a review against recent models.
Same mate
Looking forward to seeing the 919 comparison! It will be interesting to know your thoughts on if there’s much of a change!
Would like to see the 921 forged vs p770 vs HMB
Great review, would love to see the Forged 921 against ping i210 ! definitely my 2 contenders for my custom fit which is looking like it wont happen until next year. Rotator cuff surgery in mid Dec 2019, rehab postponed for 6 weeks in April thru May after being infected with COVID-19 ! My rehab is still not 100% complete and now have severe Athritis/bursitis in my left hip due to so much inactivity ! NO BUENO ! LOL Been getting hip treatments with my shoulder PT but it doesn't look promising to be fit enough to get full swings in before Nov. What is the word of the replacement iron for the i210 ? Im sure by next spring it will be out ?
Great review, really interesting to see the data between HM and Forged side by side .... still puzzles me how we get fitted for irons just hitting a 7 iron
A Mizuno release isn’t official until your reviews are posted. Looks like you hit the pin on the first shot 🙌. Like the new data presentation even though I liked the details in the old way as well
Great review Jay, looking forward to the rest of the range
Very interesting that despite being almost 3mph less in ball speed, 2 mph less clubhead speed and 2 degrees weaker loft it was very close in distance to Hot Metal. Was it the 700 RPM lower spin that kept the distance close?
Great review, how about a comparison with the 919 and 900 forged, shall shaft and grip, feel, dispersion and length?
Thinking about buying this set
I have the JPX Hot Metal Pro's, just new this year. I like them a lot. I just got a 7 iron JPX Forged in the mail today, after 14 weeks. Trying it out tomorrow. Price point is a big factor, especially if you're not sure you can hit them damn things! I have forged wedges and love them, that's why I thought I'd try this out.
Please! MP20 MMC vs JPX 921 Forged: numbers and your thoughts please!!!
Great content. Me, like many others love to see the new HPX models compared to the 919s. Love the charted data after you hit them. Thank You!
Background music is a bit loud (1st few minutes at least).
I would love a comparison of the Titliest T200 and the JPX 921 Forged
Would love to see a video on how you would blend the JPX 921 lineup
Coming soon Devin, awaiting like many at the moment for the Custom Fitted Blended set to arrive 👍
Another great video, im torn now between the forged or hot metal!! going for a fitting next week.
Let me know how you get on and what the split ends up being 👍
Hi Greg. Just wondering what you went for in the end?. I’m going for my own fit next week and would be split like you between the forged and HM. Cheers. Peter
@@peterkelly9655 Hi, i actually ended up with neither, after PXG launched the 0211 irons i got fitted for those instead. It is a great fitting experience and all free of charge. The 0211 irons are £119 each so slightly cheaper then the Mizuno. I'm very pleased with them, but i'm sure i would have loved the Mizuno's also.
@@gregcarnall9097 Thanks Gregg, not sure I know of anywhere in Dublin that fits PXG to be honest but I will have a look. To me there are so many options out there at the minute and you never know what will come out of a fitting but at the minute the options that Mizuno offer with the JPX line with all the different shafts, grips etc it just seems like I will definitely find the right balance in there somewhere. throw in the Fly-Hi hybrids as well which look great I think I will have a large collection of Mizuno come the end of fitting. thanks for the reply and best of luck with the PXG!
Any possibility of comparing the JPX 921 Forged (and/or HM Pro) with the new Srixon ZX5?
In May 2021 I was custom fit for Titleist T-200’s 2019 version. How do you think they compare in terms of forgiveness compared to the JPX 921 Forged ? One thing for certain if I hit my Titleist T 200s off-center they have a loud clacking noise. I was told because the head is not filled with epoxy you get this strange sound. This is why I’m leaning towards the JPX 921 forged but I may have to delay that for another year. These irons are not cheap! Great review Jay
Great review Jay, looking forward to seeing the 919 comparison.
Could you compare against the Srixon z785? Or the new ZX7? Would be keen to see how these two Japanese "heavyweights" stack up in a face off
Need to H2H the Forged v HMB - for me they occupy a similar space at very different price points and it would be nice to do a compare/contrast of the 2 models
Strike point forgiveness differences between the two models 👍
AskGolfNut which is the most forgiving, in your opinion?
What's your strike point miss? Heel or Toe?
AskGolfNut probably toe, currently use JOX900 HM’s
In that case, definitely the 921 Forged 👍
Mizuno now has a number of clubs that aren't that different other than marketing - MP20 MMC, MP20 HMB, JPX Forged - especially if you make all the 7 irons 32 degrees. I think Marketing / Brand wise, they should move the JPX Tour into the MP Brand as a stronger lofted 'modern' blade and move the MMC into the JPX Brand as the 'techy' blade. So MP would be (MP Blade, JPX 'cavity' Blade, HMB(make it 10% smaller)) and JPX would be (MMC Cavity Tech Blade, Forged, Hot Metal). HM Pro is not needed now with the new Forged
Hi Paul an insightful concept and one that makes complete sense. Unfortunately companies rarely listen to sense as they mainly listen to marketing guru's that sometimes know very little about the subject they advise on.....
Please compare JPX 921 Forged vs Cobra King forged irons. Ready to purchase a NEW set and Imput would be helpful. Currently play Wilson D-7 stiff shaft.
Would like to see the Ping G410 irons up against the 921 Hot Metals please.
Hmmm that's a great comparison to do..... On the list 👍
Please compare Ping i210 to 921 forged.
Hi Peter, definitely on the list go do 👍
Nice review Jay.
How do you find the 921 forged and hot metal clubs blend with the T20 wedges (As in feel between them)?
I play the jpx 900 forged and use the Orka rs10 wedges and my orka gap wedge feels so different from my jpx900 forged pw. I’ve spent a lot of time working on my short game and find its really off putting as the feeling is so different between the two clubs.
Hi Jay - switched from Mizuno to Ping as swing got slower but would love to see how the JPX 921 HM compares to the G710. Always admired Mizuno, used MX 921 then MP52, then JPX EZ (horrid) before moving over to Ping GMax (actually good irons although very chunky) before G710 but not sure could play the 921 HM as well. Thanks
Go on then John.... Added to the list to compare 😊
@askgolfnut the KBS $ taper claims to cut a load of spin. Would that shaft have impact on the low spin numbers ? I suppose one could weaken the loft a degree or 2 if more spin was needed.
Hi Jason, the lower spin numbers are from the head design and delivery angles specific to the golfer. The shaft has minimal effect on spin creation or removal. Having a very kicky flexible shaft can increase dynamic loft and therefore potential spin, however the more a shaft kicks then it will also lessen angle of attack removing spin loft.... So in reality the shaft has minimal effect on spin numbers 👍
Thanks for the comment and for watching.
@@AskGolfNut good to know! I must say, I'm jealous of your delivery, it must suck to be so neutral and send them down the pipe time and again. You likely don't get to enjoy the full left and right scenery of the Fairway like the rest of us 😅. Great reviews as always, one of the most trusted and thorough guys out there.
That's really kind of you to say Jason, it's feedback like that which make all the effort and time youtube takes worth while 👍
Hi like the new jpx but you say they are toe bias which is good for heel bias golfers keep up the good work Thanks Steve
Hi Stephen, most if not all Game Improvement clubs are more toe biased for forgiveness, most players irons are middle to slightly heel. Rather than trying to find a club to suit your heel strikes (again it would all depend on how much heel) I would look to try and move that to slightly toe as a general miss as a toe miss is so so much more helpful than heel 👍
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks for getting back to me that explains why I hit my Wilson V6 irons better than game improvement irons . I am working on slight heel strikes .
Thanks Stephen
How much significant gain from the 850/900 forged to the 921 forged?
Hi David. Haven't done the 850 irons but the 900 to 921 Forged video is on its way (editing)
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
Yep, my question, too. I decided to enter the ‘forged club’ club with a cheap set of 850s. I liked them so much, well, here I am.
Is there much of a difference between the 921 forged and 850 forged?
So similar to Callaway Apex cf19?
feel compaired to an AP2 ? as soft or not
How does this setup against the 921 Hot Metal Pro ? Feel wise especially
Hot Metal Pro hopefully coming tonight should everything go well today. The Forged feels softer though to put a spoiler out there 😊
900 forged vs these please
Oohhh that may be a very interesting video 😊
Please compare the ping I500 to the JPX 921 forged.
Great idea there 👍 it's on the list 👌
To me, it seems they've made the Forged into a Hot Metal Pro Forged type club - thus they don't need both. I'm an owner of the 919 Hot Metal Pros, bent 2 degrees weaker 7@32 degrees, and after seeing these reviews, I would now buy the Forged and weaken the set by 1 degree to hit my numbers and increase spin. I'm a 6 handicap and we have very similar numbers. I play PW-6 in HM Pro (47,42,37,32,28) then HMB 5@24 (don't like to see back of club and thinner sole better through turf). Can you see back of Forged 5 iron at address?
Borderline depending on ball position and your own head tilt location at address..... Not a very good answer I know but it does all depend on the golfers setup 👍
Why does the Chromoly stop at the 7 iron?
Hi Jim, just answered this question on another video 👍
First, Thank you for your videos, very helpful and good data. That said, I am an 8-10 handicap. The more i play the the lower I score. I have ben as low as a 6. That said, I plan on playing more and like the Mizuno's. If it helps, I hit my 4 and 5 iron as good, or even better than my seven and 8 iron at times. This all said, would you recommend the Mizuno JPX921 Forged, Tour, or Hot Metal Pros. Your opinion is appreciated. Thanks, Mark
Hi Mark, not the channel owner but I play Mizunos and I’ve hit all 3.
The Tours are undoubtedly amazing, BUT unless you’re a serious ball striker you won’t get the most out of them. Forged are fab clubs, easier to hit with the blade length and feel amazing. Wouldn’t play the HMBs given your handicap.
@@Tomshanksit Thank you for your comments
Any thoughts on how this compares to the Wilson D7 Forged?
A little more help on off centre his, more ball speed from nominal strikes and well the looks side of things..... That's all down to what you want to look at when using them... Give both a test 👍
AskGolfNut thanks Jay, I assume your reply was suggesting the help and speed favoured the Mizuno? I will test both.
Yep should have said that 😊😊
I'm not sold on this chromoly . I've had my Mp30s for 15 years and am looking to upgrade to the mp20 line. Long live the mp line with that COPPER underlay. Nothing better . End of story.....
Awesome review!
Thanks Jack 👍
All the reviewers keep acting like this is the first Forged Chromoly Iron, that is what the HMB MP 20 is!
jetdr feels like the mp20 hmb is the players irons and these ones are the game improvement irons. Maybe I’m wrong.
rykim514 HMB is Hot Metal Blade so it’s designed with forgiveness and distance help in a compact package - I reckon they occupy the same space
Hit a "load" of shots comparing mp20 mmc vs 921 forged :)
Be interested in what you saw.
You going to leave us hanging here? Just thought I’d follow up on what you found particularly in the forgiveness and distance in the long irons. Thanks.
Sorry Gary it was a request @askgolfnut. I did hit a few myself with the mmc & 921 forged 7 iron at range the other week, but left just as confused as I did before I hit them. I havent had my full fitting yet, but I'll be going with mmc with hmb 4,5,6 unless the jpx 921 forged impress. Currently gaming mp53 still.
Ok - thanks for clearing that up for me. Yes, I’ve hit the 7 iron mmc a while back and was very impressed. I’m looking for a new set of clubs with just a little more forgiveness in just the long irons, and a little more distance there as well. Might end up with that combo as well.
@@garyhanford I think the 921 forged 4 & 5 might also go well blended with mmc 6-pw.
I210 v 921 forged v H M Pro 👍🏴
I210 is getting a lot of attention for a compare. Probably closest in lofts to the Forged than the HMP though....
I wonder if this guy likes Mizuno?
Yes, I do. I have used Mizuno MP irons for most of my adult life. They continue to be one of the very best players irons. Mizuno also make extremely good game improvement irons and many independent tests show they do. Any opinions and conclusions I give is always backed up with head data to show it physically rather than just what some people could see as a generalised bias statement.
Key is in the head data 👍
@@AskGolfNut I was just being sarcastic. 😄✌🏻
No probs, it's just there for people that don't understand comments based on measured data and just stare at a cap and base their opinion on what logo it has 😊
Hope you enjoyed the content 👍
@@AskGolfNut ya I was just referring to your clothes. Everything you were wearing was Mizuno. Which is why I said, “I wonder if he likes Mizuno”. Wasn’t trying to ruffle yur panties. ✌🏻
I will never leave the MP family...... They are simply a better club . In my opinion of course. No offense to the JPX players out there.....
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