Student NHS nurses reveal what drew them to the profession - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2023
- As thousands of nurses go on strike over pay and with over 50,000 vacancies, what does the younger generation think?
Clapped during the Covid pandemic, nurses in England and members of the Royal College of Nursing are calling for a 19% pay rise.
Kirsty Wark spoke to seven students at the University of Surrey who are in their second and third years.
They speak about their own personal journeys and why they want to be a nurse.
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Health care profession is kind of stressful job indeed. Doctors and nurses need to be recognized for thier effort and dedication on their job. Payment is one of the main causes of unsustainable and shortage of healthcare staffs.
nurses are on 35k a year. it's not poverty wages like they make out.
@@happyjonn9242 Absolute rubbish! A nurses stating salary is £27,055 a year. From that they have a student loan debt of £30,000 +. That aside, I doubt many people would work as nurse even if it was £35,000. The physicality and emotional drain is huge but also immensely rewarding. I speak as someone who spent 40+ years as a nurse in the NHS.
@@barbra7562 How does a nurse end up with a student loan debt of £30,000 when they get a FREE training GRANT (You don't have to pay back a grant) of £5,000 a year?
plus all the extras including an extra £6,000 of extra funding for the poorest. plus extra money they can claim if they are single parents, caring for someone or disabled and even travel cost support.
none of this is available to other students, only NHS nursing students. You were a nurse before they even required a degree, so as usual and just like most nurses you don't know how good nurses get it in the current job market.
@@happyjonn9242 You do have to pay tuition fees to study Nursing. This costs around a total of £9,250 a year, totalling £27,7750. Although this is paid via student loans, Nurses are expected to pay this back gradually throughout their career. Much like all other students. Nurses also need to complete 2300 practice hours as part of pre-registration in clinical placements as well as the theory hours. As a minimum, nursing students receive a non-means tested grant of £1000 a year. They can can also access a means-tested bursary, and the amount available varies up to £5000. They do not all get $5000 or all the other benefits you mention. Assistance with travel is to help them attend clinical placements that may be many miles from home. Students of other subjects are also entitled to support as well as Nursing students.
I may not have needed a degree but I do have one, completed post registration which I funded myself! Because nurses are required to continually up date and improve their knowledge. Not only to maintain their registration but also to maintain safe practice.
@@barbra7562 SAVE BRITISH LIVES.
SAVE THE NHS BEFORE IT GETS PRIVATISED...
We have to analyse facts:
Check the NHS employment statistics since 1960's its a Migrant Run system within that we deskilled our entire population and left them entitled.
(1) Import Indian Doctors and Management (it makes sense Indians already manage England everywhere else)
(2) Import Filipino Nurses
(3) Remove all Entitled British regardless of color even Indian or Filipino British will be too lazy and entitled it something in the culture.
Forget checking the NHS employment statistics these 2 Migrants are in the top 5 of Medical Care Globally 👏🏽 Facts need to be accepted.
But they are retiring and dying so the system is going back to the British people, with the combo of Brexit the curtain went back on the British Public to perform we Procrastinate and Strike instead....
Adjust laws and skilled Migrants ONLY.........
Import Indian Doctors and Management
Import Filipino Nurses before they are all imported TO DUBAI FACT!
DO IT OR FACE PRIVATISATION
BOTTOM LINE SAVE BRITISH LIVES
This was a very heartfelt and insightful interview. Well done ladies for such inspiring interview responses, I do hope you all receive the support that you so rightly deserve. Also I don’t understand why the government are still charging students £20-30k to study nursing? Surely the degree should be free to study. Also a majority of nurses have to pay for their own parking and shoes!
Couldn't the BBC News include even one male nurse in this discussion?
Don't be silly. Only women and black folk are victims on the BBC
As a student at this university, there really aren't many male nurses on the courses. Those invited probably declined. Most of the male healthcare professionals at the uni end up in paramedic science and not in nursing but unfortunately that is the demographic that they are working with
It takes a special kind of person to work in health care not for the money but provide care to people x
It's not about the money its about the safety x
I respect nurses. They directly care for another human being.
I'm sure that being told they should learn to budget by Tory MPs who've wasted hundreds of billions of taxpayer's money wasn't why they got into nursing! Solidarity with the nurses and all striking workers across the UK. #EnoughIsEnough #ToriesOut
The government need to respect these nurses . Pay these nurses properly
how much would you suggest? 60k? 80k? 100k? and are you willing to pay extra taxes to pay for it all?
NHS employees get very good perks like generous annual leave and defined benefit pensions.
@@happyjonn9242 meanwhile, bailing out companies when this chaos is non-existing during Labor Party governance
Never mind all this. The government just have to look at the current situation - the salaries they're offering is leading to a shortfall of tens of thousands of nurses - they can simply find a better paid job with less stress.
Supply and demand.
Pay these upcoming nurses properly otherwise more of problems for the future!
i know its not for the money especially in the NHS and the governments lack of support of home grown nurses
I'm about to qualify as a nurse. Throughout my journey to becoming a nurse, I've experienced firsthand the dedication and hard work required to meet patients' needs, even with the burden of heavy caseloads on a daily basis. It's frustrating that student nurses receive a mere 0.28p per mile for fuel costs (if it’s further away than the distance you travel to uni from your home/accommodation so if you live close, you get nothing), and the time spent traveling to and from placements can be quite challenging. However, it's a relief that full expenses for parking, bus, and train tickets are provided when receipts are kept. If staying in accommodation, you get partially refunded.cAs students, we don't receive any pay during placements, and we need to complete at least 2300 hours to qualify as nurses.
Nurses handle diverse responsibilities across different fields, be it inpatient, community, or GP settings. The demand for our services continues to rise due to an aging population and an increase in multi-comorbidity.
Working as a nurse in the NHS can be highly stressful. The never-ending paperwork and frequent understaffing put immense pressure on us. I've witnessed scheduled appointments being canceled, leading to a backlog of work and healthcare professionals sacrificing their breaks to meet the demands. To cope, many nurses I know take up bank shifts alongside their 37.5-hour full-time hours to manage financial burdens, as NI and tax are deducted from our monthly salary. Despite all the challenges, my determination to work as a nurse remains strong because I deeply understand how essential our role is. People rely on us, and the opportunity to be there for our patients drives me forward.
We hope all is well ✍🏻
Really well articulated response. I'm so happy these nurses spoke on behalf of the current state of the NHS. This is the reality of slashing pay and funding.
Pay good salary to the nurses.
No good deed shall go unpunished. These people will be punished severely by distressing work conditions and a pittance of a wage, for the crime of caring for others.
£35k a year is a pittance of a wage?
@@sassysam6998how is it a pittance when it’s above the average salary for the UK? Plus nurses get 27 days annual leave minimum and a guaranteed pension at retirement with 20% employer contributions.
@@chrisj9700 A nurses stating salary is £27,055 a year. From that they have a student loan debt of £30,000 +
Nurses get increased holiday because they can be rostered to work 7 days a week 52 weeks of the year. So when most people are at home eating their Christmas dinner nurses are working. The reason they have access to a good pension is because the physicality and emotional drain was recognised as potentially debilitating.
@Quasimofo while I am behind the nurses totally, it is a shame that healthcare assistants, who spend all of their time on the wards with patients, seem to have almost disappeared from the media's awareness of the NHS, despite being included in safe care staffing planning for every single shift. Also, private care assistants in nursing homes do not get the support they should.
Why should education and training programs for the essential front line service roles such as nursing, only be available to higher education students (after college/sixth form)? When the UK economy could benefit from having a nursing educational system available for college students.
This will definitely be an option to close the gap in shortage of essential front line service members amongst the population of British citizens.
I hear you! However , registered nursing has always required a high educational standard even back in the days when its wasn’t a degree! Interesting to note that nursing is actually easier to get into than it used to be! Students nurses knew very quickly what the job entailed and there was always those few that dropped out when they realised how demanding the job was/is . There were a few that even actually failed their state finals! Back then you had 3 attempts and then you were out! You’ve always had to have half a brain to be a competent RN! There are many in the field back then that advocated for the training to undertaken at uni instead of teaching hospitals with nursing colleges. The reason being that all professions go the uni and this would give more leverage in terms of pay and conditions!, What a load of BS that has turned to be! When something not broke don’t try to fix it!
Taking care of others, it is one of our humans' natural abilities. It is inborn and it should be inherited from our parents, who took care of us when we were still children. We are all inspired by them, no matter whether you are nurses or not.
However, then, what tells nurses apart from laymen? As everyone is supposed to know what 'care' is about, especially now we all can access so much information online via RUclips and Wikipedia etc., nurses are still different from the general public.
We know how to care, and how to do it right. We know how to give medications to our patients in a safer way. We know how to take care of patients with different physical and mental illnesses.
We also have a holy commitment to our profession. We stand with the poor and the needy. Just like what a famous Japanese writer, Haruki Murakami, said, between a high, hard wall and a fragile egg, we, nurses, should always stand on the side of the egg.
Really interesting
These were dream careers but they are very intensive too. Having a 10+ year training period medicine is one of the harder areas facing heavy attrition. However that doesn't stop others from dreaming I guess!!!
Disable the comments section for all videos and you will be helping more people than all these nurses combined.
The NHS is a brilliant concept that has got out of control. Expanding into mega hospital resorts is bring the NHS spending into overdrive. As an example I remember local Hospitals that were loccal and a lot smaller, run by the lead Consultant and Administrator. They hired, fired and purchased evrything becuaese they were hands on and at ground level. Thats what the NHS needs to be.
So creditable speeches by nurses
nothing about the oud you do not know about that huh taqsim music that is the tough music
5;58 baby doll at the back was moving its hand that's so spooky
Honestly you should see it in person
Thanks to all of You for your dedication and service.
Did anyone realise the baby doll that moves behind 😂😂
It shows how warped our priorities are when bankster get high rewards for screwing people over and nurses get screwed over for helpling people. madness
I can’t get the logic of striking and leaving the patients unattended an action for the patience, what’s the logic here?
“Ultimately it’s about patient safety” so we won’t show up to work en masse unless we get a 19% raise. People actually believe this bs.
Nurses are leaving the profession because they can no longer survive on the pay. That’s the reality.
Oh ya by Mona noorch
NHS Nurses are inspirational; they are the best in the entire world and there will be shortage of valuables things on planet EARTH.
Secure NHS.
Import Indian Doctors
Import Filipino Nurses
Harsh but true check out the NHS employment statistics since 1960's till now, facts state.
Import Indian Doctors
Import Filipino Nurses
They are Robust, Consistent and do not have a understanding of how to be lazy and think its smart.
BOTTOM LINE
Save British Lives.
They are literally some of the worse in the entire world, but enjoy being brainwashed
FREE TUITION FEES !!!!
They got rid of the NHS bursary 6 years ago what the fuck are you talking about but don't worry I won't be paying back my uni debt when I emigrate
Vast majority of nurses are female. Unless the genders in nursing are balanced, government and society will never take this profession seriously. This is a highly skilled role that involves a lot of medical and social knowledge but the stereotype is well outdated. It's a vicious circular issue that results in persistent low pay.
Errrrr 87% of teachers are also female. Civil service is dominated by woman. Not long before over 50% of cops are also woman
@@sebastianguerre6868 massive efforts and public money are being used to try and get more woman into engineering, police force, fire service and IT. Nothing is being done to try and get more males into schools, NHS, civil service, or any work associated with social care .
Nurse with 5 years experience = £32K. Loads of flexibility , best pension scheme on the planet, clear promotion paths, great ongoing training, loads of other perks… including all the Over Time you can eat, if you want it. Most nurses are still able to retire at 55, most able to retire at 60. So less of the woe nonsense
Ok, third time lucky at not having my comment cancelled. There are biological differences between men and women.
@@jimcourt9164 Also automatic promotion after time served, even the worst nurse in the country will progress through the bands and get more and more pay the longer they work there regardless of how good they are or how hard they work. I believe they had similar systems in the Soviet Union.
Unconditional right to stop our own life medically whenever we want for all adults, my body my choice.
"Everybody loves success, but they hate successful people."
A nation can not be so short sight to offer tax breaks and refuse to fund its population’s healthcare requirements…
That political thinking will lead to failure for a growing % of population…
Poor dears.
BBC make a documentary on vinsten churchil on world war ii
Nurses and drs but no one thinks of the overworked NHS receptionists. Absolutely mad for such poor pay. Currently applying for any other jobs to get away from this
No one talking about their onlyfans on the side
Money is the main driver ...and the opportunity to work abroad!!.💕🇬🇧🇺🇦
Actually Money is not A Driver for
The growth and prosperity of countries buy......
Happiness never perchase from money.....,
@@M.Hassan28 oooook!!.🤔
Oh ya
Lions….👍🌹
😡All my frends don't wonna work beacouse bills are so high.....they just lost motivation for work ...if you cant safe nothing you better off staying with your parents and claim benefits.....THANKS TO this government!!!!
What about Daria Dugina?
the car of her kuiller was found in Kiev.
Thanks 🇬🇧 for sponsoring that 👍
Now you know what you are getting yourself into. If you don’t like it, don’t become a nurse!
Hope their demands are met!🫡
Not a single male nurse?
Why anyone would want to be a nurse in the UK, I don't know...
Very poor news report.
what drew them? they watched bbc saving Afghan women and now in trap
We're stuck we've got the corrupt Tories or corrupt labour - Starmer currently in Davos.
35k minimum for nurses
also free university degree, £5 a year living expenses while getting the degree, good public sector pension, secure work and good employee benefits scheme.
@@happyjonn9242 or under the Tories we could fly in under qualified immigrant nurses and get cheap labor as the UK did after the war
We already know the Tories will run them out
Student NHS nurses reveal what drew them to the profession - Sexy Doctors?
I don't know where you live, but I haven't seen any evidence of sexy doctors in any hospitals I've been in.
Money !
No no no stop listening to right wing propaganda
The French Revolution! It has shown a sense of superiority in capitalist society!
Members of the public, can make what I'm doing to say make sense!!! As you know Madonna is in the the headlines about a painting she has that was supposed to be destroyed years ago, why now that she's going on tour this news has just come out considering they new Madonna had this picture since 2015? Could it a publicity stunt to boost ticket sales for her tour?! I would not be supporting anyone who's been to Epstiens Island, see the public follow the stars and celebrities not knowing nothing about their real backgrounds and when you learn about Madonna and others you'd stay far
How many stabjab deaths
Aww bless. So much hope. The future is bright and secure. World beating. So much propaganda on other news outlets.
As an empathetic, feminine and liberal minded progressive Brit I'm proud about not having a country, people or borders of my own. It makes me feel virtuous and morally superior over everyone else and in my head I tell myself that my thinking is natural and normal globally.
Good troll account, almost as good a fatgeezer.
@@nota77thbot48 It feels great belonging everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
All bumf for TV
Where is modi documentary
Well done to them, but how do you weed out the psychopaths? There are some bad doctors and nurses out there and it seems you cant do anything until something goes wrong and when it does its crazy the hoops you have to jump through to get a complaint done.
We wanna watch ur truth
Waste of life. They should change their minds.
If they say it’s because they care about people hire them, because they’ll never strike. If you can let someone die because you want more money you don’t care!
Women talking to women about women who're crying. >every BBC 'news' report
Clap for the NHS that had empty hospitals during lockdown
What are you talking about? Have you been watching too much GB news?
Money end of conversation.
Oh ya by Mona noorch
first
May Allah be your helper, so that you can serve the creation 🤲
BBC RIP
"Be on your guard against greed of any kind." - (The Prophet and Messiah Jesus of Nazareth at Luke 12: 15) -
if you start a business or make money, you need to master a high income skill to be able to do it... based on my own experience. enjoyed watching your video... a fellow creator,
These students don’t have a clue
Guaranteed pension and can never be sacked.
free university degree as well and a £5k a year to help with living expenses while qualifying.
@@happyjonn9242 other countries don’t give them such benefits and they don’t have problems.
@@davidrobertsemailI guess the nurses are more motivated by salaries rather than perks. Perhaps the NHS pension scheme should reduce employer contributions or become a defined contribution scheme in exchange for a higher salary.
@@chrisj9700 there’s no pension fund. It’s make believe like teachers pensions.
All funded by future taxpayers.
Bycut BBC Channel From India ( Due To Blame on PM Modi)🇮🇳
🤮🤮🤮
They've had the applause, now the striking nhs workers need to get back to work, it's not like their on the minimum wage like a lot of carers are who basically do the same job, also they get full pay if they are on the sick, and they are working in nice warm conditions, its like everyone who is striking at the moment, they don't realise how easy they have it.
So because other people have it worse they shouldn't ask for better conditions? Maybe those other workplaces should strike as well.
@@hatientacetlen4246 They didn't twist on when the flu virus was on the go over the last couple of years, half empty wards and all that tik tok dancing going on and now whrn there's work to be done, they start with all this nonsense.
worst decision of there lifes
lets try Islam
lazy , work shy layabouts , hurry and make it private and sack them all .
It not good nurse's we need it good managers and get ride of the delusional ones.