I work at REI and was showing a customer the toaks 750 pot. Right as I said "too bad that lid doesnt snap on" they turned it upside down and it stayed put. Too my surprise, just that one on the shelf was slightly bent or out of shape enough to just barely snap on. He was sold immediately haha.
Perfect cook kit for a one night is stopping by Subway before I hit the trail. No cooking, no cleanup, and no weight on the way back. Even comes in its own trash bag!
I live in Alaska. We’ve had wildfires a lot recently. So I adjusted by grabbing a Taco Bell Crunchwrap Supreme when heading out before getting to the wilderness. And a sub for the first lunch or dinner whilst setting up camp. It makes life easier. The trash gets thrown in a gallon baggie in the bear canister to cut down on food smells. Bears are big here 🐻😂💕🏕️
I absolutely love your channel. My wife and I recently started backpacking and using advice from you and other youtubers we've been able to build out our packs nicely and on a budget and keep our base weight under 20lbs each.
My cook kit consist of the Stanley 700 ml pot, a 14oz gsi outdoor mug, BSR stove, and a tea strainer for my coffee, all of which plus fuel fits inside the stanley. It may weigh twice as much as other kits all together but its all tough and cost me about $50 all together.
Try the lid from the Stanley cook kit! Yes, the lid is stainless, but it fits well and the weight difference is minimal. The strainer in the lid is far better than others. Granted, I do replace the plastic lid tab in the middle of the lid with a tiny keyring.
The Soto Amicus stove on Amazon shows at $48.95 (NOT $84.00, like the MSR, which, by the way has been reduced to $75.15, as of 01/10/2024) The Soto Windmaster stove (my personal favorite) shows at $64.99 (regular $69.99). I'll stick with my Windmaster; it has been a GREAT stove, with no problems, regarding the igniter! Another GREAT video, Dan!!! Thanks for all you do and all you are! Happy Trails, my friend!
Others have mentioned the GSI Minimalist (which often goes on sale for ~$29 vs normal price of $35). I use this cook system and found that it is the best for those who just want to boil water for themselves. It is so versatile and lightweight. Ive used mine for 5 years now and haven’t found a better cook for system. It comes with a silicon grip handle which works great. Ive never burned myself using it. It also has a coozie which is great for handling the pot and keeping hot drinks hot when its cold. The lid it comes with can be used to sip or as a lid for boiling water by simply turning the lid upside down so it fits loosely. I highly recommend this cookset! Its the only piece of gear that i have not upgraded or replaced because it has lasted so long and imho, i havent seen a better replacement.
Strictly water boiling here also. For my hikes I use a 750 alu pot (+wobbly lid) which fits a gas canister and a MSR Pocketrocket 2 stove, true to it's name. Plus I use a foldable plastic tripod for the canister for stability and also a piece of 'extra strong version/ribbed' household alu foil (with double folded edges for some extra strength) as a windscreen or protection for inside-tent cooking. The alu can be folded/reused many times and also quite small for packing. I'm amazed when seeing people prepare meals with fresh ingredients, on a trangia burner, filet mignon in mushroom-pepper sauce and sautéed asparagus and all. Usually at the end of the day, I'm famished, almost counting the minutes of my just hydrated meal and I have to tell myself to actually let it hydrate properly. Still too much other stuff on my 'nice to have' hike gear list, to consider a titanium pot...
That orange cozy serves an important role. If you ever use your pot on an open flame, you will get black soot all over it. That orange cozy will protect your other gear from getting soot all over it. (To clean the soot off the pot, use a green Scotch-Brite scouring pad with baking soda and a little water.)
Everyone knows the old adage about ounces, pounds and pain but at point there’s diminishing returns. Sometimes just having better food, gear or whatever just makes the experience better. I remember listening to a podcast discussing backpacking elk hunts and one of the guys was incredibly weight conscious to the point that all of his meals were drinkable in a protein shake mixer. Didn’t take a stove of any kind, he viewed it all as calories intake. By the end of the 6 day hunt his partner who was telling the story says that he noticed the weight conscious guy was watching his every bite. Instead he had packed mountain house, instant potatoes, and even ramen noodles. Yeah, he had to carry all the extra weight but he felt better, slept better and had better emotional energy.
After watching an older video of yours, have been using the Toaks pot and Soto stove for all the reasons you mentioned in both that and this video, but have still been using the original Toaks lid and securing it in my pack with that orange Toaks sack, which then doubles as my throw bag for bear hangs, has worked out great, can't imagine changing this setup...
I have a 650ml Toaks for ultralight trips, and an OLICAMP Hard Anodized XTS Pot, 1-Litre pot with the heat transfer fins for trips when I want to prioritize faster boil times and fuel efficiency. Pick your favorite stove. Any long handle spoon will do.
I don't care about weight, I vanlife so I'm in the camp with the vanlifers, overlanders, car campers, and teardrop community who loves the Stanley Two-Cup cookset nesting with an Ozark Trails stainless steel cup with the butterfly handles. For your money, that is the best buy system because you get the full cookset plus a mug, a straining lid that fits both and locks on the cook kit for about $20. It's the perfect thing for a cup of coffee or tea on the go if weight isn't a deal breaker.
Been running a similar setup for years, snow peak 1l titanium pot pr2 stove, snow peaks also came with a 500ml drinking cup that the 1l fit into. Changed last year to a msr windburner, its a bit heavier but so much better on bc’s west coast.
I made a pot lid for my cup out of the lid of a pie can. It clips on an everything. Its amazing what you can achieve when you stop trying to solve all of your problems with a credit card.
That's a lot of stuff to buy just to basically recreate the GSI Minimalist which you can pick up for 35 bucks. It also includes a much better pot grabber that I actually prefer over handles. The one advantage this setup has is packability. With the GSI set, the lid won't quite go on snug when I put my pocket rocket deluxe in. Other stoves fit fine, the PRD is just a big stove.
I have one of those stoves and I noticed the screw holding the igniter was loose. I put a spot of JB weld and retightened it, and it has been good ever since.
I started off with the jet boil and I now have a small little stove in the same pot as you and a gas canister and I personally find it to be the best set up as the taste of less space and is significantly lighter than a jet boil
I found a silicone sipper lid that fits my Toaks 550. LOVE IT! It stays firmly on so I can use it as a lid when I store my canister in the pot. Unfortunately the company I bought it from (Riveted Oaks designs) doesn’t make anymore.
yeah this^. Recently saw setup this on My Life Outdoors (I think???) who I think noticed this from Justin. The collapsible Sea to Summit silly-cone mug fits on my Toaks - yet I am still using a rubberband.
my go to is a 2L MSR aluminum pot... i'm only boiling water... but in one pot I can boil enough for 2 cups of coffee, breakfast, and still have some warm water to wash up with.
I found the yeti cup lid or the Ozark trail Tumblr lid fit my 750 ML pot perfectly. Of course it weighs a little bit more than your covers but I use it on almost a daily basis for my coffee at work.
Been using the Coleman F1 lite 4800W 77g stove with Toaks 750ml titanium pot for a while now. I think at 4800W it was the most powerful stove for its size. The Coleman F1 has been in use for over 10 years now. It’s so small you can fit it in palm of your hand and close your hand.
Different trips require different cook kits. Long marches with a light pack and for just boiling water, I go for the MSR Pocket rocket or the MSR Reactor. For fishing trips or basecamp I go for a bigger burning head like the MSR Windpro. If it's cold you have to use a multifuel like the MSR Whisperlite. I myself have more than 20 different burners. It's crazy but can't think of selling a single one of them.
Fire maple petrel paired with the fire maple green peak stove offers pretty much everything you're looking for here with the exception of being titanium. I'm extremely happy with the setup
Hey Dan, I highly recommend the BRS3000 stove. It’s 26 grams, cost $20, and you can find it at garage grown gear. My personal cooking setup is the Vargo 700ml bot (has a screw on top that doesn’t leak), the brs3000t, and the fuel canister. All 3 together weigh .79 oz
I have one of those stoves. Very small and super light! But found it a bit unstable. That, and when it comes to wind performance, simmer settings or fuel efficiency it falls behind a number of other stoves. I ended up grabbing a Soto Windmaster. The extra weight is worth it I reckon.
Appreciate the frankenkit I've been running a Trangia with a JetBoil companion cup for a while and a folding spoon. A lot of the same reasoning but I also pack a few more items into the pot in favour of a bottle of fuel outside the pot.
I am a huge fan of Ozark Trail. I got 7 buddies into bwca camping with OT stuff. Cheap enough for a beginner that might not go again, and does the job until you slowly replace gear.
On that missing screw... Bring your stove to a hardware store with open bins of screws. Randomly try various small metric stainless steel machine screws, till you find the correct thread pitch and diameter (it will screw in the old threaded hole, nicely). If it is too long, careful work with pliers, a grindstone and a tin of cooling water will fix that excess length.
I liked the video. I’m a sucker for more efficient cooking stuff. BTW, The reason the Toaks weighs almost as much as the Soto is due to the aluminum handles and bracket on the Toaks. The Soto titanium pot will need either handles or the coozy with some sort of claw handle because the titanium will convey heat better than aluminum. I’d bet the Soto pot with coozy and handle is going to be heavier than the Toaks pot. I think if Soto sold just the top more folks would buy that item. I know I would. But I’m not paying $38 for a plastic top. That’s something only rich Dudes like Dan can afford.
Hey Dan! Sorry to bum you out, but Soto came out with the titanium pots recently, and they’re THE lightest on the market. They also come with lids and a pot grabber. I know you were excited about your cookset, but you’re gonna have to replace it with this 😂
I have all the stuff he mentioned but I settled on the MSR Windburner I bought for $130 on sale because I only do day hikes where weight is not an issue. I used it last spring in Northern California in a steady 30 mph wind with no issues.Try that with any sit on top canister stove.
Nice video showing how to problem-solve a serious cook kit dilemma ;) I also carry a 750 Ti pot (by Boundless Voyage), Soto Windmaster & 110 g fuel canister. For longer trips, I'll carry the 220 g canister loose in my pack. Main effort is to boil water & rehydrate meals.
I was experimenting with the toak mug and I actually really love the soto setup. I would probably bring both as I do love a mug but that handle always heats up pretty good when I'm pulling it off the stove (though titanium can lose heat like nothing else, really incredible stuff). I think Soto actually just started to sell their lid separately but I got their full kit and I love it. The pot grabber is really nice and it comes with an insulated sleeve which I love so that I can boil my water and then insulate it and add my food to that the titanium doesn't lose all that heat as fast. Because the toaks lid really does suck unfortunately.
Thanks for the info Dan, I love the channel and all the videos!!! You have inspired me to get off the couch and get back into the outdoors. You have helped me navigate the overwhelming world of camping gear to make some great choices so that I enjoy my time out on trail. Thanks for reintroducing the great escape of hiking and camping. It’s nice to step away from the hustle and bustle of daily life and disconnect with the world for a few days!!! Keep up the great work!!!
I was looking for that spoon & like everyone else out of stock. However I found one very similar 9 3/4" from GSI essential spoon long. I have tried it out & I really like it. Bought it at Cabelas & bought all 3 that were there. $4.99 each
I had this sort of serendipity with my OG GSI Halulite Minimalist lid and a 750ml titanium pot I just got :D it weighs an ounce more than your lid there, but it's a backpacking sippy cup lol and again lol, I weighed my Halulite pot against titanium and went "welp" so, TIL, locktite the screw holding the igniter on my new Amicus... I feel like I saw that spoon in the camping section at Walmart tonight while grabbing a new backpack (it has a duffle-style zipper/opening vs top load, I ADORE this setup). Thanks for sharing, I love cobbling together gear sets
Ive just recently got into backpacking but have been aware of it my entire life because of my dad going when i was young. Hes no longer here to talk about it with but ive always been intrigued by it. Ive watched many of your videos and even bought the flextail zero pump from watching your video. Waited months for it but finally got it recently. I got the Stanley 2 cup kit too because of your video on it. The main thing is that i appreciate you continuing to search for the latest most up to date best equipment out there and i hope you keep it up! I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the time you you put into this 👍
Human gear duo has got to be my favorite utensil. Picked it up after watching one of your videos. I had the chance to use it on the PCT last year and it lasted the whole trip 😮
I nest a toaks 550 inside a MSR Titan(850ml) which nests inside MSR Big Titan(2L) and a small fuel canister, lighter, wash cloth, neck buff(doubles as dish towel), small bottle of soap, Snow peak Gigapower stove + windscreen which all weigh about 820grams. Unbeatable versatility at a bearable weight.
For quite a while I used the old aluminum fosters can with fiberglass cord wrapped around it... but those are quite flimsy. Much lighter than titanium though!
Great video! Always enjoy your work and appreciate your POV. For just boiling water, I've been using the Jetboil Stash mostly. The fluxring makes it super efficient and it's very space efficient. I have too many stoves and pots in my collection so it's been surprising that the stash has gotten the most use this past year
Great video thank you. Do you buy multiple gas canisters or do you refill your gas canisters. If you refill them, do you have a video that shows how you refill them thanks a lot.
Soto windmaster with the 3 prongs tri-flex weighs 62 grams and its igniter is way better than the pocket rocket deluxe. So, weighs less and is better, that’s a win.
First a question for you: Have you tried the FlipFuel Fuel Transfer Device yet? I'd really like to know what you think of it! Same here Dan, I just cook water. My cookware line up: Toaks 750mm titanium pot. I have to rubber band the lid anyway, the pot gets packed so tight with stuff, even a tight fitting lid would pop off. Toaks long handle, smooth bowl, titanium spoon -- sans carabiner. Pocket Rocket 2 -- w/o Piezo Igniter. I carry a Bic lighter anyway. Then I clip on a small aluminum windbreak. Finally, I wrap my camp rag around the inside of the pot to keep things from rattling around in there. There's not much more annoying than having something clanking inside the pack.
Still using my grandfather's cookset. Used during the war. He walked thousends of kilometers with it in the Soviet Union (and the weight of the pot was the smallest of his problems...). When it breaks, I'll think of a new one. But it probably won't.
Aluminum typically is similar weight to titanium and aluminum transfers heat much better than titanium. I carry an aluminum 2.5 cup pot with a tight fitting lid and it weighs 5oz
Oh man I got to laughing so hard when you asked Alexa a question about the 18 grams and at the same time I'm sitting here next to my Alexa and it heard you ask your Alexa and they both went off at the same time and was talking and saying the same thing, that was funny🤣. Great video
My setup is very similar. I use the BOT 1 liter titanium with the screw-on lid. I wrap the canister in a small bandana to reduce the rattle and prevent rust stains on the pot. (the rim of the canister always seems to rust a little.) Stove is some Ti Pocket Rocket knockoff that has worked fine for several years now. The extra height of the pot fits my flexible spork (no idea on the brand - something I grabbed at Hilton Tent City years ago and it's still in one piece) I also keep some heavy aluminum foil for a wind block and a mini Bic lighter. Why? Always felt the igniter on the stove would fail - never has. But I've used the Bic many times to get a fire started in challenging conditions. Yea, it's a bit more weight, but it's pretty much bomb proof. The bandana allows me to screw the lid on or off on those really windy days were you fear (and sometimes predict) the pot is going to blow off the stove. I'm still looking for a spoon that is long enough to reach into the bottom corners of a mountainhouse pouch without your hand getting icky, but somehow collapse to fit into my pot. It's the one missing link.
The value of a long spoon is keeping our icky hands out of the glorious food we shovel into our mouths. Remember The Oregon Trail constant: you died of dysentery (short sporks).
I use (or “borrow “) the spoon from those milkshakes machines you buy at gas station . They are long enough and light weight that I don’t need to buy a $20 titanium spoon from REI. Plus I get the shake
I have two kits: 1) 750ml Toaks titanium pot with nest Toaks cup and MSR burner 2) 750ml Boundless Voyage titanium canteen (military style) pot with nesting cup, modified BCB FireDragon folding stand, and Evernew titanium alcohol burner with cross bars. Kit one is for miles, kit 2 is for quiet and relaxing…
I bought the toaks pot and MSR PRD for my partner for Christmas based on your videos. We’re excited to use them this year! Hoping the igniter works better in the Tetons than JetBoil’s🤞.
FYI: Another lid that fits (albeit a tad snug) into the Toaks 750 is the lid for the GSI halulite minimalist set. That lid is amazing for sipping coffee. 👌🏻
If you want your drink to stay hotter longer, get a dedicated mug for that purpose -- that is double walled, vacuum insulated. MSR Titan Ultralight Titanium Double Wall Camp Mug with Lid. 375 ml
Awesome video. Have you tried 1-cup pyrex silicon lids? I opted for the Bestergot titanium french press. Same size with the option for coffee and the lid has a strainer. Swap the strainer rod with a thumb screw when you don't need it and it keeps the wood knob in place. It's not perfect but has been great so far.
Their new arrival 750 titanium cup at REI website is like a wide pot as opposed to the tall cup form. Probably not what you were hoping for, if that's the thing.
Dan, you should try the Fire-Maple 600ml G3 Petrel Ultralight Pot, it has the straining plastic lid, a heat exchanger, is made in a way that you don't need a wind screen (you do have to have a 3 arm stove, like the Pocket Rocket) and saves fuel because of the heat exchanger.
I work at REI and was showing a customer the toaks 750 pot. Right as I said "too bad that lid doesnt snap on" they turned it upside down and it stayed put. Too my surprise, just that one on the shelf was slightly bent or out of shape enough to just barely snap on. He was sold immediately haha.
Perfect cook kit for a one night is stopping by Subway before I hit the trail. No cooking, no cleanup, and no weight on the way back. Even comes in its own trash bag!
Good point!
Subway is garbage. Plenty of other better sub spots.
Fact!
The big drawback though is you have to eat subway with their fake bread and questionable cuts.... So Idk lol
I live in Alaska. We’ve had wildfires a lot recently. So I adjusted by grabbing a Taco Bell Crunchwrap Supreme when heading out before getting to the wilderness. And a sub for the first lunch or dinner whilst setting up camp. It makes life easier. The trash gets thrown in a gallon baggie in the bear canister to cut down on food smells. Bears are big here 🐻😂💕🏕️
I absolutely love your channel. My wife and I recently started backpacking and using advice from you and other youtubers we've been able to build out our packs nicely and on a budget and keep our base weight under 20lbs each.
Glad to hear it!
My cook kit consist of the Stanley 700 ml pot, a 14oz gsi outdoor mug, BSR stove, and a tea strainer for my coffee, all of which plus fuel fits inside the stanley. It may weigh twice as much as other kits all together but its all tough and cost me about $50 all together.
Try the lid from the Stanley cook kit! Yes, the lid is stainless, but it fits well and the weight difference is minimal. The strainer in the lid is far better than others. Granted, I do replace the plastic lid tab in the middle of the lid with a tiny keyring.
The Soto Amicus stove on Amazon shows at $48.95 (NOT $84.00, like the MSR, which, by the way has been reduced to $75.15, as of 01/10/2024) The Soto Windmaster stove (my personal favorite) shows at $64.99 (regular $69.99). I'll stick with my Windmaster; it has been a GREAT stove, with no problems, regarding the igniter!
Another GREAT video, Dan!!! Thanks for all you do and all you are! Happy Trails, my friend!
I absolutely agree with you, the wind master, is an incredible stove!
and if you choose the Triflex for Windmaster it is much lighter than Pocket Rocket Deluxe.
@@christophmichel3380 cool- I just bought the triflex also because it’s so much easier to pack in a pot can’t wait to try it
@russelljackman1413 is the windmaster same footprint? Making sure it fits in the toaks 750ml.
Can't wait to see how you cook Frankenstein
Others have mentioned the GSI Minimalist (which often goes on sale for ~$29 vs normal price of $35). I use this cook system and found that it is the best for those who just want to boil water for themselves.
It is so versatile and lightweight. Ive used mine for 5 years now and haven’t found a better cook for system.
It comes with a silicon grip handle which works great. Ive never burned myself using it. It also has a coozie which is great for handling the pot and keeping hot drinks hot when its cold. The lid it comes with can be used to sip or as a lid for boiling water by simply turning the lid upside down so it fits loosely.
I highly recommend this cookset! Its the only piece of gear that i have not upgraded or replaced because it has lasted so long and imho, i havent seen a better replacement.
Same, no desire to replace it. I have others, but when on long distance hiking, it always comes with me.
Strictly water boiling here also.
For my hikes I use a 750 alu pot (+wobbly lid) which fits a gas canister and a MSR Pocketrocket 2 stove, true to it's name.
Plus I use a foldable plastic tripod for the canister for stability and also a piece of 'extra strong version/ribbed' household alu foil (with double folded edges for some extra strength) as a windscreen or protection for inside-tent cooking.
The alu can be folded/reused many times and also quite small for packing.
I'm amazed when seeing people prepare meals with fresh ingredients, on a trangia burner, filet mignon in mushroom-pepper sauce and sautéed asparagus and all.
Usually at the end of the day, I'm famished, almost counting the minutes of my just hydrated meal and I have to tell myself to actually let it hydrate properly.
Still too much other stuff on my 'nice to have' hike gear list, to consider a titanium pot...
That orange cozy serves an important role. If you ever use your pot on an open flame, you will get black soot all over it. That orange cozy will protect your other gear from getting soot all over it. (To clean the soot off the pot, use a green Scotch-Brite scouring pad with baking soda and a little water.)
Everyone knows the old adage about ounces, pounds and pain but at point there’s diminishing returns. Sometimes just having better food, gear or whatever just makes the experience better. I remember listening to a podcast discussing backpacking elk hunts and one of the guys was incredibly weight conscious to the point that all of his meals were drinkable in a protein shake mixer. Didn’t take a stove of any kind, he viewed it all as calories intake.
By the end of the 6 day hunt his partner who was telling the story says that he noticed the weight conscious guy was watching his every bite. Instead he had packed mountain house, instant potatoes, and even ramen noodles. Yeah, he had to carry all the extra weight but he felt better, slept better and had better emotional energy.
if buddy thinks he can save weight by drinking all his meals he needs a lesson in nutrition. that's pretty much the worst way to go.
After watching an older video of yours, have been using the Toaks pot and Soto stove for all the reasons you mentioned in both that and this video, but have still been using the original Toaks lid and securing it in my pack with that orange Toaks sack, which then doubles as my throw bag for bear hangs, has worked out great, can't imagine changing this setup...
I really appreciate vids like this!
Getting "Coffee with Carl" vibes
I have a 650ml Toaks for ultralight trips, and an OLICAMP Hard Anodized XTS Pot, 1-Litre pot with the heat transfer fins for trips when I want to prioritize faster boil times and fuel efficiency. Pick your favorite stove. Any long handle spoon will do.
I love the stanley pot, it bomb proof, intergrated handle that keeps the lid secure, its aluminum though.
I don't care about weight, I vanlife so I'm in the camp with the vanlifers, overlanders, car campers, and teardrop community who loves the Stanley Two-Cup cookset nesting with an Ozark Trails stainless steel cup with the butterfly handles. For your money, that is the best buy system because you get the full cookset plus a mug, a straining lid that fits both and locks on the cook kit for about $20. It's the perfect thing for a cup of coffee or tea on the go if weight isn't a deal breaker.
Been running a similar setup for years, snow peak 1l titanium pot pr2 stove, snow peaks also came with a 500ml drinking cup that the 1l fit into.
Changed last year to a msr windburner, its a bit heavier but so much better on bc’s west coast.
I made a pot lid for my cup out of the lid of a pie can.
It clips on an everything.
Its amazing what you can achieve when you stop trying to solve all of your problems with a credit card.
That's a lot of stuff to buy just to basically recreate the GSI Minimalist which you can pick up for 35 bucks. It also includes a much better pot grabber that I actually prefer over handles.
The one advantage this setup has is packability. With the GSI set, the lid won't quite go on snug when I put my pocket rocket deluxe in. Other stoves fit fine, the PRD is just a big stove.
Great tip!
I have one of those stoves and I noticed the screw holding the igniter was loose. I put a spot of JB weld and retightened it, and it has been good ever since.
I started off with the jet boil and I now have a small little stove in the same pot as you and a gas canister and I personally find it to be the best set up as the taste of less space and is significantly lighter than a jet boil
Speaking of which, the lid on the jetboil micromo does not stay on either, which sucks
I found a silicone sipper lid that fits my Toaks 550. LOVE IT! It stays firmly on so I can use it as a lid when I store my canister in the pot. Unfortunately the company I bought it from (Riveted Oaks designs) doesn’t make anymore.
yeah this^. Recently saw setup this on My Life Outdoors (I think???) who I think noticed this from Justin. The collapsible Sea to Summit silly-cone mug fits on my Toaks - yet I am still using a rubberband.
So glad i was able to scoop the MSR pocket rocket deluxe up for like $35 on sale, ive had nothing but great experiences with it
Just bought the Evolved 750 pot and BSR stove, perfect set up!
I use the same Toaks pot, BRS stove, and rubber band. It's perfect for boiling water. I may add or make a windscreen for it. Cheers
my go to is a 2L MSR aluminum pot... i'm only boiling water... but in one pot I can boil enough for 2 cups of coffee, breakfast, and still have some warm water to wash up with.
I am happy with my Toaks 750 and Titanium spork and BRS stove .
I use the Sea to Summit X-mug with the Toaks 750. It fits perfectly on top.
I found the yeti cup lid or the Ozark trail Tumblr lid fit my 750 ML pot perfectly. Of course it weighs a little bit more than your covers but I use it on almost a daily basis for my coffee at work.
Been using the Coleman F1 lite 4800W 77g stove with Toaks 750ml titanium pot for a while now. I think at 4800W it was the most powerful stove for its size.
The Coleman F1 has been in use for over 10 years now. It’s so small you can fit it in palm of your hand and close your hand.
Different trips require different cook kits. Long marches with a light pack and for just boiling water, I go for the MSR Pocket rocket or the MSR Reactor. For fishing trips or basecamp I go for a bigger burning head like the MSR Windpro. If it's cold you have to use a multifuel like the MSR Whisperlite. I myself have more than 20 different burners. It's crazy but can't think of selling a single one of them.
Fire maple petrel paired with the fire maple green peak stove offers pretty much everything you're looking for here with the exception of being titanium. I'm extremely happy with the setup
Msr deluxe handles pans of most sizes brilliantly. Easy win.
Hey Dan, I highly recommend the BRS3000 stove. It’s 26 grams, cost $20, and you can find it at garage grown gear. My personal cooking setup is the Vargo 700ml bot (has a screw on top that doesn’t leak), the brs3000t, and the fuel canister. All 3 together weigh .79 oz
I have one of those stoves. Very small and super light! But found it a bit unstable. That, and when it comes to wind performance, simmer settings or fuel efficiency it falls behind a number of other stoves. I ended up grabbing a Soto Windmaster. The extra weight is worth it I reckon.
Appreciate the frankenkit I've been running a Trangia with a JetBoil companion cup for a while and a folding spoon. A lot of the same reasoning but I also pack a few more items into the pot in favour of a bottle of fuel outside the pot.
I am a huge fan of Ozark Trail. I got 7 buddies into bwca camping with OT stuff. Cheap enough for a beginner that might not go again, and does the job until you slowly replace gear.
I use the soto amicus stove but the one without the igniter a totes 750 pot and have a mini clipper lighter and love that setup
On that missing screw...
Bring your stove to a hardware store with open bins of screws. Randomly try various small metric stainless steel machine screws, till you find the correct thread pitch and diameter (it will screw in the old threaded hole, nicely).
If it is too long, careful work with pliers, a grindstone and a tin of cooling water will fix that excess length.
❤Ember mug. That’s a super nice mug. Good call! Bought one for my wife.
I liked the video. I’m a sucker for more efficient cooking stuff.
BTW, The reason the Toaks weighs almost as much as the Soto is due to the aluminum handles and bracket on the Toaks.
The Soto titanium pot will need either handles or the coozy with some sort of claw handle because the titanium will convey heat better than aluminum. I’d bet the Soto pot with coozy and handle is going to be heavier than the Toaks pot.
I think if Soto sold just the top more folks would buy that item. I know I would. But I’m not paying $38 for a plastic top. That’s something only rich Dudes like Dan can afford.
True but 38 for a top and a coozy maybe 😇?
Hey Dan! Sorry to bum you out, but Soto came out with the titanium pots recently, and they’re THE lightest on the market. They also come with lids and a pot grabber. I know you were excited about your cookset, but you’re gonna have to replace it with this 😂
I have all the stuff he mentioned but I settled on the MSR Windburner I bought for $130 on sale because I only do day hikes where weight is not an issue. I used it last spring in Northern California in a steady 30 mph wind with no issues.Try that with any sit on top canister stove.
Thanks, Dan, for correcting your pronunciation of Oregon "Ory-gun".👍
From an Oregonian 🙂
and he still managed to over-correct from "gone" to "gun" but at least he tried. :)
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At least he got the memo! (Oregonian too)
Nice video showing how to problem-solve a serious cook kit dilemma ;) I also carry a 750 Ti pot (by Boundless Voyage), Soto Windmaster & 110 g fuel canister. For longer trips, I'll carry the 220 g canister loose in my pack. Main effort is to boil water & rehydrate meals.
I was experimenting with the toak mug and I actually really love the soto setup. I would probably bring both as I do love a mug but that handle always heats up pretty good when I'm pulling it off the stove (though titanium can lose heat like nothing else, really incredible stuff). I think Soto actually just started to sell their lid separately but I got their full kit and I love it. The pot grabber is really nice and it comes with an insulated sleeve which I love so that I can boil my water and then insulate it and add my food to that the titanium doesn't lose all that heat as fast. Because the toaks lid really does suck unfortunately.
You can buy the soto lid set for the thermo cup cook set for cheap. 2 size lids come in the kit
I have two of the spoons love it
Thanks for the info Dan, I love the channel and all the videos!!! You have inspired me to get off the couch and get back into the outdoors. You have helped me navigate the overwhelming world of camping gear to make some great choices so that I enjoy my time out on trail. Thanks for reintroducing the great escape of hiking and camping. It’s nice to step away from the hustle and bustle of daily life and disconnect with the world for a few days!!! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks that’s awesome to hear!
I'd highly recommend the Soto Windmaster. Absolutely cracking stove.
I was looking for that spoon & like everyone else out of stock. However I found one very similar 9 3/4" from GSI essential spoon long. I have tried it out & I really like it. Bought it at Cabelas & bought all 3 that were there. $4.99 each
I had this sort of serendipity with my OG GSI Halulite Minimalist lid and a 750ml titanium pot I just got :D it weighs an ounce more than your lid there, but it's a backpacking sippy cup lol and again lol, I weighed my Halulite pot against titanium and went "welp"
so, TIL, locktite the screw holding the igniter on my new Amicus...
I feel like I saw that spoon in the camping section at Walmart tonight while grabbing a new backpack (it has a duffle-style zipper/opening vs top load, I ADORE this setup).
Thanks for sharing, I love cobbling together gear sets
Ive just recently got into backpacking but have been aware of it my entire life because of my dad going when i was young. Hes no longer here to talk about it with but ive always been intrigued by it. Ive watched many of your videos and even bought the flextail zero pump from watching your video. Waited months for it but finally got it recently. I got the Stanley 2 cup kit too because of your video on it. The main thing is that i appreciate you continuing to search for the latest most up to date best equipment out there and i hope you keep it up! I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the time you you put into this 👍
Human gear duo has got to be my favorite utensil. Picked it up after watching one of your videos. I had the chance to use it on the PCT last year and it lasted the whole trip 😮
Most fuel efficient setup is Jetboil Stash pot with a Sotowindmaster totaling 7.4 oz. There is a Reddit thread with someone doing testing
Jetboil stash pot with MSR Deluxe Maybe a bit heavier 🤷
GSI Minimalist set had this year's ago in halulite aluminum.
I nest a toaks 550 inside a MSR Titan(850ml) which nests inside MSR Big Titan(2L) and a small fuel canister, lighter, wash cloth, neck buff(doubles as dish towel), small bottle of soap, Snow peak Gigapower stove + windscreen which all weigh about 820grams. Unbeatable versatility at a bearable weight.
Will the Soto lid fit the Toaks 550 mug? ... please be a yes 🙏
❤😂🎉🎉🎉 Great to see you, Dan!!
Great idea to reach out to Soto. Respect, Dan.
The SOTO Amicus (no igniter version) and Thermostack pot set is what does it for me. I don't ever buy stoves with igniters.
For quite a while I used the old aluminum fosters can with fiberglass cord wrapped around it... but those are quite flimsy. Much lighter than titanium though!
Love the run and gun vibe today
Thanks for sharing this….so cool!! Think I will splurge for the combo!
Great video! Always enjoy your work and appreciate your POV. For just boiling water, I've been using the Jetboil Stash mostly. The fluxring makes it super efficient and it's very space efficient. I have too many stoves and pots in my collection so it's been surprising that the stash has gotten the most use this past year
Great video thank you. Do you buy multiple gas canisters or do you refill your gas canisters. If you refill them, do you have a video that shows how you refill them thanks a lot.
Soto windmaster with the 3 prongs tri-flex weighs 62 grams and its igniter is way better than the pocket rocket deluxe. So, weighs less and is better, that’s a win.
First a question for you: Have you tried the FlipFuel Fuel Transfer Device yet? I'd really like to know what you think of it!
Same here Dan, I just cook water. My cookware line up:
Toaks 750mm titanium pot. I have to rubber band the lid anyway, the pot gets packed so tight with stuff, even a tight fitting lid would pop off.
Toaks long handle, smooth bowl, titanium spoon -- sans carabiner.
Pocket Rocket 2 -- w/o Piezo Igniter. I carry a Bic lighter anyway. Then I clip on a small aluminum windbreak.
Finally, I wrap my camp rag around the inside of the pot to keep things from rattling around in there. There's not much more annoying than having something clanking inside the pack.
Still using my grandfather's cookset. Used during the war. He walked thousends of kilometers with it in the Soviet Union (and the weight of the pot was the smallest of his problems...). When it breaks, I'll think of a new one. But it probably won't.
Ive been rocking a $30 walmart kit for years. It’s a bit heavier but never had an issue with the hardware itself
Great info on new pots!
Grand Master Emmit I like your editing style man!
Aluminum typically is similar weight to titanium and aluminum transfers heat much better than titanium. I carry an aluminum 2.5 cup pot with a tight fitting lid and it weighs 5oz
Vargo bot. Works as an extra water container, cold cooker or standard pot with a lid. A size available for anyone
Oh man I got to laughing so hard when you asked Alexa a question about the 18 grams and at the same time I'm sitting here next to my Alexa and it heard you ask your Alexa and they both went off at the same time and was talking and saying the same thing, that was funny🤣. Great video
Same
My setup is very similar. I use the BOT 1 liter titanium with the screw-on lid. I wrap the canister in a small bandana to reduce the rattle and prevent rust stains on the pot. (the rim of the canister always seems to rust a little.) Stove is some Ti Pocket Rocket knockoff that has worked fine for several years now. The extra height of the pot fits my flexible spork (no idea on the brand - something I grabbed at Hilton Tent City years ago and it's still in one piece) I also keep some heavy aluminum foil for a wind block and a mini Bic lighter. Why? Always felt the igniter on the stove would fail - never has. But I've used the Bic many times to get a fire started in challenging conditions. Yea, it's a bit more weight, but it's pretty much bomb proof. The bandana allows me to screw the lid on or off on those really windy days were you fear (and sometimes predict) the pot is going to blow off the stove.
I'm still looking for a spoon that is long enough to reach into the bottom corners of a mountainhouse pouch without your hand getting icky, but somehow collapse to fit into my pot. It's the one missing link.
The value of a long spoon is keeping our icky hands out of the glorious food we shovel into our mouths. Remember The Oregon Trail constant: you died of dysentery (short sporks).
The titanium and aluminum pots weigh the same because of the handles on the Toaks. They also make a 750ml version without the handles that is lighter
I love Soto products. I have that Soto pot and lid. Mine came with a cup with a lid inside it as well.
Nice!
I use (or “borrow “) the spoon from those milkshakes machines you buy at gas station . They are long enough and light weight that I don’t need to buy a $20 titanium spoon from REI. Plus I get the shake
Just when I thought all my gear was dialed in and I was done spending money. Thanks Dan.
the titanium pot is lighter than the aluminum pot, but the handles account for the extra weight.
GearSkeptic did a great video series on Backpacking Stove Efficiency reviewing weights sizes stoves/pots/lidded or not ...
I have two kits:
1) 750ml Toaks titanium pot with nest Toaks cup and MSR burner
2) 750ml Boundless Voyage titanium canteen (military style) pot with nesting cup, modified BCB FireDragon folding stand, and Evernew titanium alcohol burner with cross bars.
Kit one is for miles, kit 2 is for quiet and relaxing…
I bought the toaks pot and MSR PRD for my partner for Christmas based on your videos. We’re excited to use them this year! Hoping the igniter works better in the Tetons than JetBoil’s🤞.
FYI: Another lid that fits (albeit a tad snug) into the Toaks 750 is the lid for the GSI halulite minimalist set. That lid is amazing for sipping coffee. 👌🏻
Thanks for the info!
Sea to Summit has a very similar spoon for less than 2$ and come in a few colors.
The GSI minimalist lid also fits.
Trangia makes a canister burner for thier stoves. I love mine.
Thanks Dan!
The Soto lid is available as a replacement from Soto
If you want your drink to stay hotter longer, get a dedicated mug for that purpose -- that is double walled, vacuum insulated. MSR Titan Ultralight Titanium Double Wall Camp Mug with Lid. 375 ml
Favorite part…Dan calling out “Dan.” 😂😂😂
Awesome video. Have you tried 1-cup pyrex silicon lids?
I opted for the Bestergot titanium french press. Same size with the option for coffee and the lid has a strainer. Swap the strainer rod with a thumb screw when you don't need it and it keeps the wood knob in place. It's not perfect but has been great so far.
Jetboil stash. Boils water pretty quick
Their new arrival 750 titanium cup at REI website is like a wide pot as opposed to the tall cup form. Probably not what you were hoping for, if that's the thing.
Dan have you tried the Vargo Bot ? I have both sizes and it solved a lot of my issues you stated in your video. I’d love to know what you think.
They make a repair kit for MSR stoves too. I have needed to use it twice.
Hey Dan- my Jetbboil lid fits on my Toaks 750ml pot…😉
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It only makes sense that you make your own product 😁
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Ohhhhhhh… monster COOK!
I totally misread that headline! Lololol 😂😂😂
Dan, you should try the Fire-Maple 600ml G3 Petrel Ultralight Pot, it has the straining plastic lid, a heat exchanger, is made in a way that you don't need a wind screen (you do have to have a 3 arm stove, like the Pocket Rocket) and saves fuel because of the heat exchanger.
Weight?
6 oz, but remember no wind screen, and the fuel savings.