I agree with your choices. I have been backpacking for 44 years and have stayed on the budget side of equipment. I'm not an ultralight guy but I don't carry a cast iron pan. I love showing people that they can have fun on the trail without breaking the bank. Well done sir.
Eric just gotta say I've seen a ton of "from Amazon " gear videos and yours stand out because of how well you explain your pros and cons. AND you offer alternative choices BOTH above and below the price points. Keep this series going.
Hey! My husband and I have been using the Paria Recharge XL for $85 (4.6 Rvalue) for 4 years now and it is still going strong. We go camping pretty much every weekend, even in the winter, and we have stayed comfortable and warm. I also LOVE my Paria 15 degree quilt for $150. I have been using that for 2 years in the mountains of VA. I hope this helps anyone that's on a budget =)
@@julieheim He goes camping in -25 degree camping in Canada so for him absolutely not. Even in the single digits we are good, we just throw on an extra fleece layer and sleep beautifully.
Agree 100% with you on the Paria quilt. It’s super warm and comfortable, and seems just as well constructed as my far more expensive Enlightened Equipment quilt.
Really appreciate pros making videos like this! It really gives me the impetus to actually go solo dispersed camping without having the fanciest/best gear.
Appreciate that you not only took a look but really put these to the test and showed us along the way. It’s been fun to watch this ‘series’ if you call it that, we were also able to see some of your epic trips too
I clicked on this video so that I could recommend it to my son and we could talk about some inexpensive gear he can gather since he's just now getting into hiking, camping, and even edging in on survival methods. Thanks for the great review on specifically less expensive products. Also, I've been using the elements hydration and the electrolyte booster since you recommended it a while back. My dad who is 79, myself at 54 and my son-in-law in his thirties, all started using this after our first day of a pretty extreme elk hunt after we woke up cramping. Taking one a day stopped the cramps all together for the remainder of the trip. Thanks for the great recommendations!
I’ve really enjoyed this series. Super helpful, and weirdly validating for some of the choices I’ve made. Your blend of longer form trips and shorter gear stuff makes your channel really valuable to me and others I’m sure. Your friends deserve the same credit
I see above someone already suggested it but Hikenture released a 6.2 R for 100cad (i got it 80 on sale) and it honestly has worked quite well! Thanks again as always for checking out more affordable/reasonable gear! We appreciate it Eric!! 👍
Thank you so much for doing these videos. They are so enlightening. It seems like you have a lot of experience with the different products, and you give clear pros and cons on everything. That and you give options for each piece of gear is amazing. I have found this to be quite useful. The only thing left is I need a clothing gear video. You know, shoes, socks, gloves, hat, buff, etc. that you use/recommend and of course needs to be budget friendly. I love Eric Hanson videos! Thanks for all you do.
I love the LMNT sample pack. Don’t tell them I just gave the unflavored to my horse that was having dehydration issues. Vet was out at 10pm for him, today he got lmnt instead 😮😊
I love the BRS 3000T! So cheap, so light, and i love how you can really crank the output down low so you can simmer (way better than my friend's pocket rocket)
Good hiking, camping and gear vid's, as usual, much appreciated. I've been backpacking since '77, so I "dialed in" my rig DECADES ago. However, every year or two I try to see if there's any new/good gear out (if a bear hasn't torn through my camp first). RUclips makes it easier and your channel is one of the FEW I like (and subscribe) ❤
Just started doing videos about hiking, backpacking, camping, and outdoors. Love watching these videos. Working on getting my words to flow this smoothly. Great video!
I like this video a lot. I started my post-retirement backpacking with lower priced gear by River Country (super cheap tents) and Paria Outdoor (great quilts and other gear), and over time upgraded my components to shed weight - which at my age has been an important consideration. For me, the sweet spot between light weight and affordability has been Durston (I see you have one of their stickers behind you). I’ve hiked the Colorado Trail, Collegiate Loop, Benton MacKaye Trail and Four Pass Loop with their tents and packs, and while they’re a little more expensive than the gear you feature in this video they’re simply outstanding in design, weight and durability. I’d encourage anyone looking for a cheap, very lightweight, comfortable tent to look at the sil-poly Durston X-Mid.
I just got back from the Allegheny National Forest and I took the flextail mummy mattress with me. The outside temp got down around freezing and between the mattress and my sleeping bag I was very comfortable and toasty warm at night. I also used the camping moon stove (without the igniter) and the uco spork. Your recommendations helped out a lot.
You must've overloaded featherstone. This tent has been out of stock since you made your first video on it. Hope they give you a nice sales bonus! Thanks for the videos Eric
Instead of the Flextail sleeping pad I'd recommend the REI Helix. Very warm, comfortable, 1-year warranty, and comes with the inflation sack. I like the Helix much better than the Nemo Tensor.
I would steer clear of the klymit mattress, I had the same one and the glue inside delaminated and which put pressure on the points around it which caused more to come undone which made the material thinner and eventually started a slow leak. All with only light use.
I finally started to put together my first camping kit and money is definitely the biggest problem. Maybe this goes as a good tip: I got the Naturehike 650ml titanium pot for 21 euros. The Toaks 750ml was 35 euros here. Mine also has a handle that allows one to hang the pot if necessary. And it easily fits 100g gas canister, lighter and BRS3000T inside.
Featherstone was my first backpacking tent. I still have it and use it for for kayaking. If 8 hadnt got a used Hubba for $50, id still be using the Featherstone
Hi Eric Love the vids. I see a lot of "budget" vids, also "top end" kit vids but... I normally can't afford top end kit but I'm not wanting budget kit either so this vid is great but I've been buying clearance, end of line kit lately. I find I can get 95% of the performance from mid to top end kit but bought for 50-70% less than the current years models by buying last year's kit as it gets cleared out. Example, I'd love a Zenbivy set up but in the end I bought a Biganes Anvil Horn 15 for $190 (long and wide). I'd love to see you make a film about this middle ground way of buying kit. No one else is talking about this way if getting great kit at an affordable price. Cheers from the UK
I’ll have to google this. I’m starting out and don’t have a pad yet. Been looking at flextail tho. Wanting something comfortable for my slipped disc. It looks like a swimming float every time I see it.
Justin Outdoors recommended or at least gave it thought. 100 and change CDN. I bought it, used it twice and will use it 3 more nights this coming week in the Charlevoix, Quebec. Ticks inflatable pads worth considering.
This! I have the hikenture and I was going to comment almost the same. I don't understand how someone can advice to buy a 120-140 dollars mattress, the US market must be really really different from the EU's. The hikenture has higher R value, higher comfort, less bulk, less weight, and comes with a pump sack, for less than 80€! I bought mine on sale for 65€, I would love to see some of these experts guys review it :)
My biggest flip point here is the Nevo Rhino ($80) vs Decathlon MT100 Eazylift 50L ($100). The Decathlon has a fit system that everyone seems to love, it's a bit heavier though. The padding is super thick, and i think it'd carry the weight of more inexpensive gear WAY better.
I 100% agree with this. The decathlon easy fit system is great (I'm on the taller end but have a shorter torso length so finding something that fits me well can be challenging). I have the previous generation of the MT100 50L and love it.
I really enjoy the direction of your channel. I find channels like mylifeoutdoors and Dan beckers channel are just guys saying "your doing everything wrong, and im the best and have the best gear and the most knowledge." It doesn't feel like a creator respecting their audience. As an experienced hiker, climber and alpine climber i still have a great time watching your films Eric and i feel the general enjoyment you have hiking and exploring new gear. I also really enjoy the hiking footage as a photographer i really apreceate the quality of the shots and your creativity. Thanks for this series and all the others! Happy hiking!
i had been a close follower of Darwin On The Trail in his youtube prime and i loved his budget gear reviews. im so happy to see you take up that torch and vet some new budget gear options for the 2024/25 seasons.
I've really appreciated this series and I love how thoroughly you've explained both the pros and the cons. You don't just hype gear. I would love to see you do some budget rain gear (My current rain shell is a $25 shell from Decathlon and it's been great for 3 years and still going strong) and cold weather/shoulder season gear. Also, on the headlamps, I have a Petzl Actik and a Princeton Tech Sync. Both are great headlamps! I got the Petzl for $35 brand new on eBay. The big selling point for me was the lumens (450) combined with the fact that it can run on AAAs or its own USB rechargeable pack. The Princeton Tech is dead simple to use (and the first lighting mode on the dial is red so it's my primary headlamp when I'm hunting) and only cost me $25 brand new.
Great video. Not everyone wants to spend a boat load of money to go out a couple times a year. The only place I'm not willing to use a budget alternative is sleep. My Zenbivy hurts the wallet but makes the whole experience so much better.
I bought two of those uco utensils right at Walmart for $3 each a few years ago. They work great. Still prefer my towns log handled spoon, but I bought those for my kids, or bringing newbies.
Great video, thank you for doing these. I’m relatively new to backpacking and always appreciate the budget friendly options if they work just as well. It’s all about just getting out there to enjoy the great outdoirs
Awesome round up! I'm 5'11 and 7/8 as well, just tall enough that most regular size sleeping bags are just a little short, always spring for the long version
I would be great if you did a budget vs weight comparison video to help people figure out where it’s worthwhile spending their budget to have a better pack weight while maintaining comfort.
Thank you for the recommendation of the Camping Moon stove! I just got one, a Soto triplex pot stand, and the Fire Maple pot. Excited to use it on trips that are at higher altitudes and windy conditions!
Great video, love the gear testing and the honesty when you are surprised at the viability of the budget finds. I’m a gear nut and struggle with trusting budget gear.
The Klymit Static V matt is actually a pretty decent matt for exclusively stomach sleepers. I sleep on my stomach and dont use a pillow either and the V static has been great for me :)
you should have a look at Unigear Camfy P3. It's the most comfortable sleepeng pad I've ever used (at the end of the day I could really feel my back relaxing on it) and has a decent insulation (I slept at ~-1/-3 celsius and did not get the cold from my back). It's a little on the heavy side but packs down small and comes with a pump back. Also, the tents... I started with a Naturehike mongar2 (a palace) which weights about the same as the 1st tent you talked about. Now I'm on the light-er side with a lanshan1 (trekking pole tent) with which I walked from Bologna down to Florence across the Appenini in April: no problem with the rain, up in less than 3 minutes (once you're used to it) and it's about 2 lb with the 4 season inner. Oh ! Thanks for spotting out the camping moon ! (On aliexpress I found a discount and got it for ~20$)
My Static V never left my living room. Bought it at a local outdoors shop, tried it in the house, and absolutely hated it. While searching for a better pad, I found out I qualified for Nemo's pro program, so a Tensor was an easy decision.
Thank you for the gear review, I’m considering section backpacking, I’ve done a lot of LD cycling, canoe camping, bike touring but getting older and overuse injuries make me consider backpacking, I’m planning to do the Camino next spring so all this helps in deciding what to consider for my gear. I do 10 mi hikes regularly and I will probably extend the distance so now overnighting is the next step. I’m looking at reasonably priced gear, maybe the step up you mentioned in your video, not the cheapest but not the most expensive, something intermediate where the gear is getting lighter and less bulky without breaking the bank to get there.
Eric enjoyed your videos. I have a comment about the Kelty Cosmic 20. As background, I have been backpacking for most of my life, late fifties now. Recently decided, however, I wanted to do multiple day loops and through sections before I was too old. LOL This meant updating, and more importantly, lightening my pack. Not wanting to go crazy money wise, I began extensive research at price, weight and quality for the big three, as well as other aspects of my kit. IMO the Cosmic 20 is a no brainer, can get as low as $110 for previous years model. From price, performance and weight, you may be spending upwards of $400 to save 8oz from the Kelty! Keep in mind, I live in Colorado so a 30 degree bag might be pretty limiting. This money saved means you could buy an excellent tent and pack (I got Six Moons Lunar Solo and Durston Kakwa 55 which are almost budget priced) which gives you more weight savings per dollar than most bags! I have my base weight down to 14lbs and will still tinker a bit. I may eventually replace the Kelty Cosmic 20, but there are bigger priorities for cost and weight savings right now. I did 30 mile trip in the Gore Range, Colorado this summer, the bag was great. Just got back from an overnight in 11,500' in Colorado mid October bag still performed well.
I miss more options on sleeping bags instead of quilts because there are more lightweight sleeping bags over quilts 😊 but it was a really good film and amazing spreed sheet 😍
I've used the AO2 stove for a while and then gave it to my son. I've been using the BRS for a while but have been really disappointed with its performance with the wind. The camping moon is currently in my cart
This is good video - there a few things where it seems on paper that that mid-wieght cheap alternatives aren't much different to expensive ones. For example self-standing tents - there are plenty of inexpensive tents around 1.4-1.8kg (3-4lb) that seem to be as good expensive tents (MSR, Big Anges, Sea to Summit) tents in the same weight range.
Might be a dumb question but why don’t you use the tent footprint? Are you using any ground cloth? I know it shaves weight but what about having a moisture barrier?
Hey Eric! I've been a long-time viewer on the channel and absolutely love your content. The video and audio quality is fantastic, and the trail cinematography is unmatched. I am starting to make videos, and I'm having a hard time locking down a good microphone to use for indoor gear reviews, as well as on trail when wind noise is introduced. I'm wondering what microphone(s) you use for your videos, if you wouldn't mind sharing! Love all that you do, keep up the good work sir!
That insulated klymit static V only has an astm R rating of 1.9 (as opposed to the un insulated version of R 1.3) which is due to the baffling cold spots. The insulated version advertises R4.4 but is much less transparent about the true astm rated R value
Yeah the Klymit Static V has been panned for it's actual insulation value, but I did notice the insulated version to feel warmer. That's anecdotal of course. It's still better than just going with a closed cell foam pad in my opinion.
Oh such a useful video. Have about 3 items from the list but came to it in a hard way by making tons of mistakes. I wish I could see it before I completely upgraded my kit.
Regarding the camping moon stove, what about the fact you can’t return it or some reviews talking about the quality control aspect and some being reported as not straight? I’m looking to purchase my first stove and trying to decide if I want to rock the camping moon or go straight for the Soto or even the jetboil mightymo.
Great video Eric! Might I suggest Paria Outdoors products for budget backpacking. Their sleeping pad is pretty good, tents are pretty well designed, and their bags/quilts are comparable to bigger named stuff. I’m sure you have heard of them, but figured I’d add it for others. Thanks again for a great budget gear video!
Great video! What next level sleeping bags around $250 would you recommend that improve the fabric feel and retain the 800FP and at least as good temp?
How about a first time backpacking in the snow video? Can I take my nemo hornet into the snow and be safe if it starts to snow? Lake Tahoe area not extreme winter blizzard but still change of snow
I think that's a good idea for a video. And yes you can definitely camp in the snow in your normal backpacking tent, I've done it many times. They won't handle snow load nearly as well, so if it snows heavily on you you just have to clear the tent frequently. They're also not as strong at withstanding wind which can be more problematic in the winter. But if conditions are not crazy, you can definitely do it!
Good choices. I use a couple cheap duck down bags which work fine for me. I haven't tried the cold weather bag I got for 45 dollars yet, but it's really warm. It weighs 3.5 lbs, but I would only use it on cold nights. My other duck down, 40 dollar bag weighs 2.5 lbs and is reasonably warm. I've used it down to 30 degrees. I wasn't shivering but I wasn't toasty warm either. I think you are right on the average backpacker. I only go in the spring and fall on trails pretty close by. I might go on a trip to another state but that would be a big deal. I would never through hike. I use alcohol stoves. I don't know why, it just seems more fun. One home made, and a Trangia, which I really like. I don't like the whole canister thing. I have a little coated fry pan, I don't just boil bags. Nice budget run, there. I get so sick of the expensive equipment garbage.
The thing with sleeping bags like that is that you can likely achieve the same warmth rating of really expensive bags, they just need more insulating material to get there. Sounds like that's what you have. And for the stoves, I haven't gotten into the alcohol stoves but if you like them, that's awesome!
@@eric_hanson Yeah, they are inbetween synthetic fiber and expensive down bags. Fine with me. They still pack down pretty small and are a bit lighter than synthetics. It's also a pig in a poke on the quality. I bought one that just gets used indoors in the winter because that's all it's good for. 2 out of 3 were about what I expected and usable for outdoors.
Since all sizes of Exped 5R sleeping pads are $159 at REI, does the flextail pad make sense? The flextail pad does have a higher R rating. Comfort? PS REI gives a 10% dividend on full price purchases. The pad is also periodically on sale for $129.
Ampex has a pretty comfortable pad with a claimed r-value of 5.5 that can be purchased for $50-$60 depending on size. Not sure how it would hold up to the felxtail but definitely better than the kylmit and for a comparable price.
I have this pad and love it! For the price is great and definitely keeps you warm. The insulation is a bit noisy at first, but after the first couple uses it quiets down. The pump sack that this pad comes with is also top notch.
Thanks for the gear recommendations Eric. Great video as always. Hey I'd love to see what you think about the Forclaz Men's MT100 Easyfit 70 L backpack from Decathlon.
At that price, you should not buy the Flextail pads unless you really like vertical baffles. I just picked up Kilos Gear Elite which is less than the Flextail. And the price to performance is out of this world.
Thanks for all the info. I have a trekking pole tent for long miles but was looking for a self standing tent as a base camp so I would not have to take my poles out to do day hikes. Have a REI half dome but is somewhat heavy and is actually my husband's. I looked at the featherstone after I saw that tent only video but after reading it's wt was not interested. The ampex one though looked promising. This is great for me and my doggie, bought from bass pro after I saw your last video. 🐕I agree with you on the mattress/ pad regarding comfort, Klymit is way overrated. I did find other brands on Amazon that come with the blow up sack that are light wt and much more comfortable, I use the 1/8in foam from outdoor vitals in combo under my sleeping bag to add warmth and works great. I have a thermarest bag but I bought the aegemax compression bag as it is smaller than what came with the thermarest. I have the NU25 headlamp, have had for yrs, is great. CNOC 2L bag, 3L bag was sold out at the time, has not had a leak but I have only had it a few months. Can use the smart water bottle for collection also in a pinch. I used the gear aid seam grip glue on an osprey bladder that had a leak and it worked and has held up for about 10 yrs now, it is my day pack and I use that thing all the time yr round for hiking and snowboarding. I also used the the gear aid seam grip on a running soft flask and it still works. Also used for my tent to repair a rip in the mesh, from the doggo, and to fix multiple holes in the mesh pockets of my osprey day pack, the pack is 15 yrs old and like I said I use it yr round. The gear aid seam grip works great, love the stuff for repairs. I will have to take a look at the spoon/knife/fork, I cold soak most the time and already have the folding titanium utensils. I have been hiking for yrs but try to watch the budget. My backpacking tent was off Amazon, Modase, not on anymore. Was recommended by a person who did the AT so thought I would try it. Was on sale for $25, only 1lb, no internal support but if you are carrying light loads you don't need it, just need to load the bag correctly. I told the zpack fans I was with the cost and wt of my pack, and they said, but the quality... all my buckles worked, one of his did not hold, so much for quality at over $200.
Hey Eric, please check out the Naturehike 1lb 5.8R sleeping pad and let us know what you think! Looking for an extra pad to bring friends without having to give them my Tensor Extreme. Also check out the Gear Doctors Apolloair pad, also around a pound and claiming 5.2R. Thanks 🙏🏼
Hello! I love your videos! You're a genius!!! Could you please make a video or recommendations for travelling with a trekking backpack by plane? I want to go to Torres del Paine and I'm kind of lost on how to organise travelling with a backpack by plane, if I should check it in, if it goes in another bag (and what do I do with that bag?) etc etc... Hugs!!!!
Just got a titanium 750 pot from Temu £5. And the long handled spoon in titanium for £4. 😂 looks the same to me. So I’ve ordered a stove, I’ll let you know if it’s any good when it arrives it’s small and titanium so I’m hopeful 🇬🇧🙏🏻
I won’t use down, do you happen to have tried anything that’s decent and warm that is not an animal product? Thank you so much for all your valuable information I’m so glad I found your channel
I tried the comparable North Face synthetic sleeping bag but I honestly thought it was terrible. It's around $170 but I'd check out the Marmot Trestles Elite Eco 20.
Thanks for these kinds of videos. I know I’ve used some of your suggestions. Just recently I changed my cooking gear to exactly what you have. My main hiking concern is weight because I have lots of spinal/nerve injuries from my 21 years as a grunt in our military.but when I can find a good cost/quality/weight item I’m all over it. I also live in Texas so I have the Static V pad loaded up in my fall bag right now. My total weight, minus food and water, is currently at 13 pounds so I might try some of the tents you reviewed. You and Dan Becker should get salesman awards because every item you guys review are sold out or have months long waiting lists.🤣
@@eric_hansonyou shouldn't be. It just goes to show that your reviews are honest and that people trust your opinions. That's a great thing. Love your content. No fuss no muss.
Hi! I'm begging you, try the Steinwood 35l backpack. It costs €70 and has great functionality. I've been looking for a backpack up to 40l, up to 80€ for half a year now, and it's important that it's suitable for tall people, and this one is my favorite so far
I agree with your choices. I have been backpacking for 44 years and have stayed on the budget side of equipment. I'm not an ultralight guy but I don't carry a cast iron pan. I love showing people that they can have fun on the trail without breaking the bank. Well done sir.
Thank you so much. Yeah it's pretty cool that inexpensive gear can be good enough to use and really enjoy as a dedicated user. Keep going friend!
Hi from Newfoundland Canada great video buddy lots of great gear
Funny story... My first ever backpacking trip, I carried a cast iron pan. No joke. It was not a fun trip (on the AT no less!)
@@fathersonoutdoors7487 Hello! I love Newfoundland, had a blast on the East Coast trail.
@@adventureswithcorrine No joke? That's my kind of dead pan humor.
Eric just gotta say I've seen a ton of "from Amazon " gear videos and yours stand out because of how well you explain your pros and cons. AND you offer alternative choices BOTH above and below the price points. Keep this series going.
Hey thank you! It seems to be a trend this year to do budget gear videos, which is great! I'm glad to hear mine are particularly helpful.
Hey! My husband and I have been using the Paria Recharge XL for $85 (4.6 Rvalue) for 4 years now and it is still going strong. We go camping pretty much every weekend, even in the winter, and we have stayed comfortable and warm. I also LOVE my Paria 15 degree quilt for $150. I have been using that for 2 years in the mountains of VA. I hope this helps anyone that's on a budget =)
Do you think that the hightened R value he showed would be overkill?
@@julieheim He goes camping in -25 degree camping in Canada so for him absolutely not. Even in the single digits we are good, we just throw on an extra fleece layer and sleep beautifully.
Agree 100% with you on the Paria quilt. It’s super warm and comfortable, and seems just as well constructed as my far more expensive Enlightened Equipment quilt.
Really appreciate pros making videos like this! It really gives me the impetus to actually go solo dispersed camping without having the fanciest/best gear.
I love this, that's the goal! I am trying to make getting out there feel more accessible and not overwhelming.
Appreciate that you not only took a look but really put these to the test and showed us along the way. It’s been fun to watch this ‘series’ if you call it that, we were also able to see some of your epic trips too
I'm so glad you've enjoyed it! It's been really fun.
I clicked on this video so that I could recommend it to my son and we could talk about some inexpensive gear he can gather since he's just now getting into hiking, camping, and even edging in on survival methods. Thanks for the great review on specifically less expensive products. Also, I've been using the elements hydration and the electrolyte booster since you recommended it a while back. My dad who is 79, myself at 54 and my son-in-law in his thirties, all started using this after our first day of a pretty extreme elk hunt after we woke up cramping. Taking one a day stopped the cramps all together for the remainder of the trip. Thanks for the great recommendations!
Love seeing pro backpackers doing budget gear reviews!! Thanks bro!
I’ve really enjoyed this series. Super helpful, and weirdly validating for some of the choices I’ve made. Your blend of longer form trips and shorter gear stuff makes your channel really valuable to me and others I’m sure. Your friends deserve the same credit
I see above someone already suggested it but Hikenture released a 6.2 R for 100cad (i got it 80 on sale) and it honestly has worked quite well!
Thanks again as always for checking out more affordable/reasonable gear! We appreciate it Eric!! 👍
No one else is doing this. Esp ones with monetary incentives. Kudos to you dude! Thank u!
Thank you so much for doing these videos. They are so enlightening. It seems like you have a lot of experience with the different products, and you give clear pros and cons on everything. That and you give options for each piece of gear is amazing. I have found this to be quite useful.
The only thing left is I need a clothing gear video. You know, shoes, socks, gloves, hat, buff, etc. that you use/recommend and of course needs to be budget friendly.
I love Eric Hanson videos! Thanks for all you do.
I love the LMNT sample pack. Don’t tell them I just gave the unflavored to my horse that was having dehydration issues. Vet was out at 10pm for him, today he got lmnt instead 😮😊
haha wow! Well that's quite the testimonial!
The electrolytes from the feed store are so expensive and my horses don’t really like them. I’ll have to remember LMNT for them 😅
@@emilymetler7014 it’s not a long term solution but I am out of Apple dex. He has been colicky post-hurricane. I have been walking him for two days
I love the BRS 3000T! So cheap, so light, and i love how you can really crank the output down low so you can simmer (way better than my friend's pocket rocket)
It's surprisingly great!
Good hiking, camping and gear vid's, as usual, much appreciated. I've been backpacking since '77, so I "dialed in" my rig DECADES ago. However, every year or two I try to see if there's any new/good gear out (if a bear hasn't torn through my camp first). RUclips makes it easier and your channel is one of the FEW I like (and subscribe) ❤
Just started doing videos about hiking, backpacking, camping, and outdoors. Love watching these videos. Working on getting my words to flow this smoothly. Great video!
I like this video a lot. I started my post-retirement backpacking with lower priced gear by River Country (super cheap tents) and Paria Outdoor (great quilts and other gear), and over time upgraded my components to shed weight - which at my age has been an important consideration. For me, the sweet spot between light weight and affordability has been Durston (I see you have one of their stickers behind you). I’ve hiked the Colorado Trail, Collegiate Loop, Benton MacKaye Trail and Four Pass Loop with their tents and packs, and while they’re a little more expensive than the gear you feature in this video they’re simply outstanding in design, weight and durability. I’d encourage anyone looking for a cheap, very lightweight, comfortable tent to look at the sil-poly Durston X-Mid.
I just got back from the Allegheny National Forest and I took the flextail mummy mattress with me. The outside temp got down around freezing and between the mattress and my sleeping bag I was very comfortable and toasty warm at night.
I also used the camping moon stove (without the igniter) and the uco spork. Your recommendations helped out a lot.
I love the ANF. I hope no one else finds out about it!😂
You must've overloaded featherstone. This tent has been out of stock since you made your first video on it. Hope they give you a nice sales bonus! Thanks for the videos Eric
haha yeah, I think they sold a lot after that video. Looks like the tent is coming back in stock shortly.
@@eric_hanson yes I would’ve learned that if i watched your video for more than ten seconds without commenting. You’re awesome
I mean the video made me buy one! :)
@@rockmusicrules97 cool! I hope you enjoy it!
Instead of the Flextail sleeping pad I'd recommend the REI Helix. Very warm, comfortable, 1-year warranty, and comes with the inflation sack. I like the Helix much better than the Nemo Tensor.
I would steer clear of the klymit mattress, I had the same one and the glue inside delaminated and which put pressure on the points around it which caused more to come undone which made the material thinner and eventually started a slow leak. All with only light use.
it is also not performing to its advertised r-value. i think its 100% worth spending more money on a pad that will satisfy you
Great video! I liked the detailed review of each item, especially that Ampex tent.
I finally started to put together my first camping kit and money is definitely the biggest problem.
Maybe this goes as a good tip:
I got the Naturehike 650ml titanium pot for 21 euros. The Toaks 750ml was 35 euros here.
Mine also has a handle that allows one to hang the pot if necessary.
And it easily fits 100g gas canister, lighter and BRS3000T inside.
My mom bought one kislux and she loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when she went out with it.
Very comfortable and not noisy.First use was late summer and will now use it mid-october in the fall
Loved it ty - backpacking on a budget is fun in its own way
Featherstone was my first backpacking tent. I still have it and use it for for kayaking. If 8 hadnt got a used Hubba for $50, id still be using the Featherstone
Hi Eric
Love the vids.
I see a lot of "budget" vids, also "top end" kit vids but...
I normally can't afford top end kit but I'm not wanting budget kit either so this vid is great but I've been buying clearance, end of line kit lately.
I find I can get 95% of the performance from mid to top end kit but bought for 50-70% less than the current years models by buying last year's kit as it gets cleared out.
Example, I'd love a Zenbivy set up but in the end I bought a Biganes Anvil Horn 15 for $190 (long and wide).
I'd love to see you make a film about this middle ground way of buying kit. No one else is talking about this way if getting great kit at an affordable price.
Cheers from the UK
The Hikenture 6.2R pad just absolutely outclasses the Klymit and it's cheaper too. Unfortunate that you guys in the US don't have it available yet.
I’ll have to google this. I’m starting out and don’t have a pad yet. Been looking at flextail tho. Wanting something comfortable for my slipped disc. It looks like a swimming float every time I see it.
interesting, I'll have to see if I can find one!
Justin Outdoors recommended or at least gave it thought. 100 and change CDN. I bought it, used it twice and will use it 3 more nights this coming week in the Charlevoix, Quebec. Ticks inflatable pads worth considering.
Tracey, was it comfortable?
This! I have the hikenture and I was going to comment almost the same. I don't understand how someone can advice to buy a 120-140 dollars mattress, the US market must be really really different from the EU's. The hikenture has higher R value, higher comfort, less bulk, less weight, and comes with a pump sack, for less than 80€! I bought mine on sale for 65€, I would love to see some of these experts guys review it :)
My biggest flip point here is the Nevo Rhino ($80) vs Decathlon MT100 Eazylift 50L ($100). The Decathlon has a fit system that everyone seems to love, it's a bit heavier though. The padding is super thick, and i think it'd carry the weight of more inexpensive gear WAY better.
I 100% agree with this. The decathlon easy fit system is great (I'm on the taller end but have a shorter torso length so finding something that fits me well can be challenging). I have the previous generation of the MT100 50L and love it.
I really enjoy the direction of your channel. I find channels like mylifeoutdoors and Dan beckers channel are just guys saying "your doing everything wrong, and im the best and have the best gear and the most knowledge." It doesn't feel like a creator respecting their audience.
As an experienced hiker, climber and alpine climber i still have a great time watching your films Eric and i feel the general enjoyment you have hiking and exploring new gear. I also really enjoy the hiking footage as a photographer i really apreceate the quality of the shots and your creativity.
Thanks for this series and all the others! Happy hiking!
i had been a close follower of Darwin On The Trail in his youtube prime and i loved his budget gear reviews. im so happy to see you take up that torch and vet some new budget gear options for the 2024/25 seasons.
I've really appreciated this series and I love how thoroughly you've explained both the pros and the cons. You don't just hype gear. I would love to see you do some budget rain gear (My current rain shell is a $25 shell from Decathlon and it's been great for 3 years and still going strong) and cold weather/shoulder season gear.
Also, on the headlamps, I have a Petzl Actik and a Princeton Tech Sync. Both are great headlamps! I got the Petzl for $35 brand new on eBay. The big selling point for me was the lumens (450) combined with the fact that it can run on AAAs or its own USB rechargeable pack. The Princeton Tech is dead simple to use (and the first lighting mode on the dial is red so it's my primary headlamp when I'm hunting) and only cost me $25 brand new.
I tried mountainsmith bear creek 2p tent. 149$ and about 4lbs. Will fit 2 wide pads. Love the tent!!! Great room and design
Great video. Not everyone wants to spend a boat load of money to go out a couple times a year. The only place I'm not willing to use a budget alternative is sleep. My Zenbivy hurts the wallet but makes the whole experience so much better.
I got a $99 bag from REI during a sale. Did great and had the water pockets i needed. Perfect and under 100 before tax
I bought two of those uco utensils right at Walmart for $3 each a few years ago. They work great. Still prefer my towns log handled spoon, but I bought those for my kids, or bringing newbies.
Nitecore NU25 UL is my daily-carry headlamp and also backpacking headlamp. Love it.
Great video, thank you for doing these. I’m relatively new to backpacking and always appreciate the budget friendly options if they work just as well. It’s all about just getting out there to enjoy the great outdoirs
Awesome round up! I'm 5'11 and 7/8 as well, just tall enough that most regular size sleeping bags are just a little short, always spring for the long version
Glad to meet another 6'er that other 6'ers look down upon.
I would be great if you did a budget vs weight comparison video to help people figure out where it’s worthwhile spending their budget to have a better pack weight while maintaining comfort.
20:48 Even if your stove has a piezo igniter, you're still going to have to bring some alternative backup. Piezo igniters are infamously unreliable.
I agree, gotta have a backup lighter regardless of the stove you're using.
Thank you for the recommendation of the Camping Moon stove! I just got one, a Soto triplex pot stand, and the Fire Maple pot. Excited to use it on trips that are at higher altitudes and windy conditions!
ooooh I also just got the triflex stand and the Fire Maple pot. I'm trying it out on my next trip. We're on the same wavelength!
@@eric_hanson too cool! Yeah, I’ve fused together some top favorites this year from yourself and Devin at Backcountry Exposure!
Great video, love the gear testing and the honesty when you are surprised at the viability of the budget finds. I’m a gear nut and struggle with trusting budget gear.
I am a huge fan of not cheaping out on sleep gear. I ended up picking up a big agnes Rapide SL mattress for 140$ at REI and haven't looked back since.
The Klymit Static V matt is actually a pretty decent matt for exclusively stomach sleepers. I sleep on my stomach and dont use a pillow either and the V static has been great for me :)
Oh nice! That's helpful information!
you should have a look at Unigear Camfy P3. It's the most comfortable sleepeng pad I've ever used (at the end of the day I could really feel my back relaxing on it) and has a decent insulation (I slept at ~-1/-3 celsius and did not get the cold from my back). It's a little on the heavy side but packs down small and comes with a pump back. Also, the tents... I started with a Naturehike mongar2 (a palace) which weights about the same as the 1st tent you talked about. Now I'm on the light-er side with a lanshan1 (trekking pole tent) with which I walked from Bologna down to Florence across the Appenini in April: no problem with the rain, up in less than 3 minutes (once you're used to it) and it's about 2 lb with the 4 season inner. Oh ! Thanks for spotting out the camping moon ! (On aliexpress I found a discount and got it for ~20$)
My Static V never left my living room. Bought it at a local outdoors shop, tried it in the house, and absolutely hated it. While searching for a better pad, I found out I qualified for Nemo's pro program, so a Tensor was an easy decision.
Thank you for the gear review, I’m considering section backpacking, I’ve done a lot of LD cycling, canoe camping, bike touring but getting older and overuse injuries make me consider backpacking, I’m planning to do the Camino next spring so all this helps in deciding what to consider for my gear. I do 10 mi hikes regularly and I will probably extend the distance so now overnighting is the next step. I’m looking at reasonably priced gear, maybe the step up you mentioned in your video, not the cheapest but not the most expensive, something intermediate where the gear is getting lighter and less bulky without breaking the bank to get there.
Eric enjoyed your videos. I have a comment about the Kelty Cosmic 20. As background, I have been backpacking for most of my life, late fifties now. Recently decided, however, I wanted to do multiple day loops and through sections before I was too old. LOL This meant updating, and more importantly, lightening my pack. Not wanting to go crazy money wise, I began extensive research at price, weight and quality for the big three, as well as other aspects of my kit. IMO the Cosmic 20 is a no brainer, can get as low as $110 for previous years model. From price, performance and weight, you may be spending upwards of $400 to save 8oz from the Kelty! Keep in mind, I live in Colorado so a 30 degree bag might be pretty limiting. This money saved means you could buy an excellent tent and pack (I got Six Moons Lunar Solo and Durston Kakwa 55 which are almost budget priced) which gives you more weight savings per dollar than most bags! I have my base weight down to 14lbs and will still tinker a bit. I may eventually replace the Kelty Cosmic 20, but there are bigger priorities for cost and weight savings right now. I did 30 mile trip in the Gore Range, Colorado this summer, the bag was great. Just got back from an overnight in 11,500' in Colorado mid October bag still performed well.
I miss more options on sleeping bags instead of quilts because there are more lightweight sleeping bags over quilts 😊 but it was a really good film and amazing spreed sheet 😍
I think I remember reading that the ampex mystery string is a clothes line for socks, hats and smaller wet items.
I've used the AO2 stove for a while and then gave it to my son. I've been using the BRS for a while but have been really disappointed with its performance with the wind. The camping moon is currently in my cart
This is good video - there a few things where it seems on paper that that mid-wieght cheap alternatives aren't much different to expensive ones. For example self-standing tents - there are plenty of inexpensive tents around 1.4-1.8kg (3-4lb) that seem to be as good expensive tents (MSR, Big Anges, Sea to Summit) tents in the same weight range.
This is great, I have great gear but trying to get some extra gear so I can take friends along, great vid!
Yeah this is great loaner gear to get your friends who don't own gear to go on trips with you!
Might be a dumb question but why don’t you use the tent footprint? Are you using any ground cloth? I know it shaves weight but what about having a moisture barrier?
Thanks, Eric!
I’d like to throw in a budget drink additive- pure kik and it’s cheap at dollar general. Sorry to your sponsor but we need this budget option too!
Love the series!
awesome recommendations for budget gear :)
glad to be helpful!
Hey Eric! I've been a long-time viewer on the channel and absolutely love your content. The video and audio quality is fantastic, and the trail cinematography is unmatched. I am starting to make videos, and I'm having a hard time locking down a good microphone to use for indoor gear reviews, as well as on trail when wind noise is introduced. I'm wondering what microphone(s) you use for your videos, if you wouldn't mind sharing! Love all that you do, keep up the good work sir!
That insulated klymit static V only has an astm R rating of 1.9 (as opposed to the un insulated version of R 1.3) which is due to the baffling cold spots. The insulated version advertises R4.4 but is much less transparent about the true astm rated R value
Yeah the Klymit Static V has been panned for it's actual insulation value, but I did notice the insulated version to feel warmer. That's anecdotal of course. It's still better than just going with a closed cell foam pad in my opinion.
@@eric_hanson Yeah for sure I’d agree with that I used the uninsulated one for a while and actually found the pad quite comfortable
Oh such a useful video. Have about 3 items from the list but came to it in a hard way by making tons of mistakes. I wish I could see it before I completely upgraded my kit.
What kind of camera microphone do you use for your trips?
Regarding the camping moon stove, what about the fact you can’t return it or some reviews talking about the quality control aspect and some being reported as not straight?
I’m looking to purchase my first stove and trying to decide if I want to rock the camping moon or go straight for the Soto or even the jetboil mightymo.
Good stuff. The NU20 CLASSIC is awesome.
Great video Eric! Might I suggest Paria Outdoors products for budget backpacking. Their sleeping pad is pretty good, tents are pretty well designed, and their bags/quilts are comparable to bigger named stuff. I’m sure you have heard of them, but figured I’d add it for others. Thanks again for a great budget gear video!
I'm aware of Paria Outdoors but I haven't tried anything from them yet. I'm sure I will though!
@@eric_hanson They have some pretty good options for the prices. I think they are a great budget option for most. Thanks again!
Great video! What next level sleeping bags around $250 would you recommend that improve the fabric feel and retain the 800FP and at least as good temp?
Ive been waiting for the best of the best video. I have the campingmoon stove on the way here to Norway. Thanks for the suggestions!!
Nice! You're gonna love it.
How about a first time backpacking in the snow video? Can I take my nemo hornet into the snow and be safe if it starts to snow? Lake Tahoe area not extreme winter blizzard but still change of snow
I think that's a good idea for a video. And yes you can definitely camp in the snow in your normal backpacking tent, I've done it many times. They won't handle snow load nearly as well, so if it snows heavily on you you just have to clear the tent frequently. They're also not as strong at withstanding wind which can be more problematic in the winter. But if conditions are not crazy, you can definitely do it!
Good choices. I use a couple cheap duck down bags which work fine for me. I haven't tried the cold weather bag I got for 45 dollars yet, but it's really warm. It weighs 3.5 lbs, but I would only use it on cold nights. My other duck down, 40 dollar bag weighs 2.5 lbs and is reasonably warm. I've used it down to 30 degrees. I wasn't shivering but I wasn't toasty warm either. I think you are right on the average backpacker. I only go in the spring and fall on trails pretty close by. I might go on a trip to another state but that would be a big deal. I would never through hike. I use alcohol stoves. I don't know why, it just seems more fun. One home made, and a Trangia, which I really like. I don't like the whole canister thing. I have a little coated fry pan, I don't just boil bags. Nice budget run, there. I get so sick of the expensive equipment garbage.
The thing with sleeping bags like that is that you can likely achieve the same warmth rating of really expensive bags, they just need more insulating material to get there. Sounds like that's what you have. And for the stoves, I haven't gotten into the alcohol stoves but if you like them, that's awesome!
@@eric_hanson Yeah, they are inbetween synthetic fiber and expensive down bags. Fine with me. They still pack down pretty small and are a bit lighter than synthetics. It's also a pig in a poke on the quality. I bought one that just gets used indoors in the winter because that's all it's good for. 2 out of 3 were about what I expected and usable for outdoors.
Have you used the saker canyon pro for a dog pack?
I currently have a Nemo Dragonfly OSMO 2P but man... that Ampex is a nice tent for the price. Considering switching...
Since all sizes of Exped 5R sleeping pads are $159 at REI, does the flextail pad make sense? The flextail pad does have a higher R rating. Comfort?
PS REI gives a 10% dividend on full price purchases. The pad is also periodically on sale for $129.
I was surprised with the Aoto stove as well. Did a little video on my channel comparing some stoves I have.
What is the comfort rating of the ageis sleeping bag? Thanks
It's also a 20 degree F bag so the comfort rating is at 32F. I camped with it down to 30 and was quite warm. Pleasant surprise.
I use 2, 3-liter Cnoc bags. 1 clean and 1 dirty
I love my BRS stove :)
It's a fantastic stove!
Are you still using Grayl? Can you do a review on the new Grayl 24oz GeoPress Ti with lid?
Hey man thanks for the vids
Any chance to do a gear area walk through on how u organize
Just food for thought :)
Check out the Ampex ultralight Inflatable sleeping pad, as well as the one Tigris obsidian, for other budget. Amazon pad options with decent r values
There's definitely more options I want to explore, thanks for the recommendations!
Ampex has a pretty comfortable pad with a claimed r-value of 5.5 that can be purchased for $50-$60 depending on size. Not sure how it would hold up to the felxtail but definitely better than the kylmit and for a comparable price.
I didn't know they had a sleeping pad with that good of a rating, I'll have to check that out!
I have this pad and love it! For the price is great and definitely keeps you warm. The insulation is a bit noisy at first, but after the first couple uses it quiets down. The pump sack that this pad comes with is also top notch.
Thanks for the gear recommendations Eric. Great video as always. Hey I'd love to see what you think about the Forclaz Men's MT100 Easyfit 70 L backpack from Decathlon.
After purchasing the expensive gear (my husband was not amused)...then watching this video, my husband would like to talk to you...lolol.
wait, he wants to talk to me?! Am I in trouble?
@@eric_hanson@midnightcrywithkate hahahaha! ff! The husband might need more info on next level gear!
At that price, you should not buy the Flextail pads unless you really like vertical baffles. I just picked up Kilos Gear Elite which is less than the Flextail. And the price to performance is out of this world.
Thanks for all the info. I have a trekking pole tent for long miles but was looking for a self standing tent as a base camp so I would not have to take my poles out to do day hikes. Have a REI half dome but is somewhat heavy and is actually my husband's. I looked at the featherstone after I saw that tent only video but after reading it's wt was not interested. The ampex one though looked promising. This is great for me and my doggie, bought from bass pro after I saw your last video. 🐕I agree with you on the mattress/ pad regarding comfort, Klymit is way overrated. I did find other brands on Amazon that come with the blow up sack that are light wt and much more comfortable, I use the 1/8in foam from outdoor vitals in combo under my sleeping bag to add warmth and works great. I have a thermarest bag but I bought the aegemax compression bag as it is smaller than what came with the thermarest. I have the NU25 headlamp, have had for yrs, is great. CNOC 2L bag, 3L bag was sold out at the time, has not had a leak but I have only had it a few months. Can use the smart water bottle for collection also in a pinch. I used the gear aid seam grip glue on an osprey bladder that had a leak and it worked and has held up for about 10 yrs now, it is my day pack and I use that thing all the time yr round for hiking and snowboarding. I also used the the gear aid seam grip on a running soft flask and it still works. Also used for my tent to repair a rip in the mesh, from the doggo, and to fix multiple holes in the mesh pockets of my osprey day pack, the pack is 15 yrs old and like I said I use it yr round. The gear aid seam grip works great, love the stuff for repairs. I will have to take a look at the spoon/knife/fork, I cold soak most the time and already have the folding titanium utensils. I have been hiking for yrs but try to watch the budget. My backpacking tent was off Amazon, Modase, not on anymore. Was recommended by a person who did the AT so thought I would try it. Was on sale for $25, only 1lb, no internal support but if you are carrying light loads you don't need it, just need to load the bag correctly. I told the zpack fans I was with the cost and wt of my pack, and they said, but the quality... all my buckles worked, one of his did not hold, so much for quality at over $200.
Hey Eric, please check out the Naturehike 1lb 5.8R sleeping pad and let us know what you think! Looking for an extra pad to bring friends without having to give them my Tensor Extreme. Also check out the Gear Doctors Apolloair pad, also around a pound and claiming 5.2R. Thanks 🙏🏼
rest in peace that beautiful uco cup. May it's replacement be just as good.
this is a very touching tribute, I really appreciate it.
Good info! TY!
Question: Can the knife on the spork combo cut a steak properly?
I think it's sharp enough that it *could cut a steak. Will it do it properly? Not sure. I've definitely used it to cut cured meats though.
Problem with Amazon budget gear is as soon as someone reccomends it and it begins to sell they jack up the price.
Hello! I love your videos! You're a genius!!! Could you please make a video or recommendations for travelling with a trekking backpack by plane? I want to go to Torres del Paine and I'm kind of lost on how to organise travelling with a backpack by plane, if I should check it in, if it goes in another bag (and what do I do with that bag?) etc etc... Hugs!!!!
Ampex tent is advertised and labeled on the box as being longer than it is.
Just got a titanium 750 pot from Temu £5. And the long handled spoon in titanium for £4. 😂 looks the same to me. So I’ve ordered a stove, I’ll let you know if it’s any good when it arrives it’s small and titanium so I’m hopeful 🇬🇧🙏🏻
Good luck to you! Hope that works out!
Great review, gosh darn.
I'd like to see more gear videos from youtubers that don't rely on Amazon.
Unfortunately the stove is not available in the EU, I can't find it.
I won’t use down, do you happen to have tried anything that’s decent and warm that is not an animal product? Thank you so much for all your valuable information I’m so glad I found your channel
I tried the comparable North Face synthetic sleeping bag but I honestly thought it was terrible. It's around $170 but I'd check out the Marmot Trestles Elite Eco 20.
@@eric_hanson thank you, I will..Theres gotta be something. 🙏🏻😇
I use a decathlon sleeping bag with a 0 degrees celcius rating, it was about 80 euros so not very expensive either. It is a bit bulkier but very warm
The only thing is that the newer and lighter version is not yet available in the us so it is a bit heavier (the one I have is around 1100 grams
@@maritelkerbout thank you!
Thanks for these kinds of videos. I know I’ve used some of your suggestions. Just recently I changed my cooking gear to exactly what you have. My main hiking concern is weight because I have lots of spinal/nerve injuries from my 21 years as a grunt in our military.but when I can find a good cost/quality/weight item I’m all over it. I also live in Texas so I have the Static V pad loaded up in my fall bag right now. My total weight, minus food and water, is currently at 13 pounds so I might try some of the tents you reviewed.
You and Dan Becker should get salesman awards because every item you guys review are sold out or have months long waiting lists.🤣
13 pounds that's great! Nice work! Sorry for the waiting lists on gear!
@@eric_hansonyou shouldn't be. It just goes to show that your reviews are honest and that people trust your opinions. That's a great thing. Love your content. No fuss no muss.
Hi! I'm begging you, try the Steinwood 35l backpack. It costs €70 and has great functionality. I've been looking for a backpack up to 40l, up to 80€ for half a year now, and it's important that it's suitable for tall people, and this one is my favorite so far
New challenge...what can you put together on a budget buying used gear. Like how much quality gear can you get at the Amazon price!!!