This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Titans didn’t show a controversial touchdown on its video system in a 2000 game against the Giants.
This game also went to show how deep those Bills teams were in the early-90's. Despite the fact that this was a meaningless game for them. Lose a Jim Kelly? Frank Reich filled in very capably. Lose a Thurman Thomas? Kenneth Davis filled in very capably. Even when Bruce Smith was lost for most of that 91 season, the Bills defense might have bent, but didn't break. And for a unit that spent more time on the field than any other in the league in 91 (thanks mainly to the Bills' up-tempo offense), it could have been worse. Needless to say, a month later, Thurman Thomas lost his helmet, and he couldn't play (at least until it was found). That joke aside, it's hard to have a team so deep nowadays. If your quarterback goes down, your team's fortunes go down with it, too.
@@chriswoodsports Nope. Since the divisional realignment in 2002, the Lions and Browns are the only teams to not win a division title. The Jets and Raiders both won division titles in 2002, but none since.
In “The Game Behind the Game” Terry O’Neil talked about covering the 1983 Pan Am Games from Venezuela. The Venezuelan organizing committee promised O’Neil and CBS they would provide coverage of the opening ceremony, but changed their minds about 72 hours before the ceremony. O’Neil said he had to scramble. Among other things he did was taking and old production truck that resembled a family camping trailer and packing it with all the television equipment they needed.
Broadcast issues..... I'll never forget the 1998 NFC championship game, the OT game between the Dirty Bird Falcons and the Minnesota Vikings. The local Fox affiliate in East Central Illinois (WCCU 27) was out all day, nothing but snow on the channel, cable or antenna. I was able to see the 2nd half because a co worker had DirecTV, which was still new at that time, and since they couldn't broadcast local channels yet, they would show the national network feeds. Was wondering if you had any info on that situation
WCCU didn't air about half of the 2001 Daytona 500 (IIRC, the broadcast went out not long after the start of the race and didn't resume until not long before the multi-car crash in which Tony Stewart's car flipped) due to technical issues, and they were the de facto primary Fox affiliate for the Bears later that year because the Bears relocated to Champaign for one season while Soldier Field was rebuilt. I remember that station from when I was a kid because it was the station that would go out on the cable system anytime their microwave link from their parent station WRSP in Springfield, Illinois would malfunction for whatever reason. When DirecTV started carrying local channels for the Champaign-Springfield DMA, they carried WRSP as the sole Fox affiliate for the market, which they still do to this day.
@@heartlandauthor I moved away from the area just before the 2001 Daytona, so I didn't see that glitch. I do remember them carrying the Bears games quite a bit. I can't remember if they had any reason for it being out all damn day that championship Sunday. Sounds like they probably weren't very well managed
9:50 31 years later, and I still don't know how Barry pulled that move off. I remember watching the game on VHS, and my dad rewound it 5 times on that play alone. He was one of a kind.
As Chris Berman stated on the "NFL Primetime" highlight for this game, " There's Bruce Smith! There's Darryl Talley! There's Barry Sanders! Unbelievable..."
Thank goodness for that unusual solution so those who were slated to watch the action from Orchard Park, N.Y. still could. That's a crazy story that I didn't know about back then.
That was an epic year for the Lions! I so wish they went to the Super Bowl that year. Why the hell Lions chose to pass versus handing it to Barry on the 1st Play in the NFC Championship was beyond stupid!
Wow this is a fantastic video! I remember this game because the Lions got the 2 seed. The Niners were playing the best football in the NFC but missed the playoffs due to tiebreakers. They buried the Bears on Monday. Back in those days the last Monday night game impacted the playoff standings. I got to see the Jets beat the Miami Dolphins to make the playoffs. Plus you did a video on that game
So did the Eagles, who finished 10-6 in spite of losing Randall Cunningham in the opening game of the year in Green Bay (some Eagles fans felt Bryce Paup, who hit Cunningham in the knee should have been suspended for the entire season for that hit, which knocked Cunningham out for the year) and at times because of Jim McMahon's elbow issues having to play with third-stringer Pat Ryan at QB.
I uploaded the Pre game show several years ago, My area in Northern NY we were probably supposed to get Bills-Lions. We got Cowboys-Falcons instead and I switched over to NBC to watch Dolphins-Jets.
Two other 1972 games on CBS, Redskins at Jets (week 8) and Eagles at Giants (week 11), were not shown due to the IBEW strike. Much of the 49ers-Packers game in Milwaukee (week 8) was also knocked off the air, and two others (Cowboys at Chargers week 8 and Packers at Bears week 9) had to use substitute announcers.
My parents and I lived in Kenmore, NY at the time, not too far from Orchard Park. The game was a local blackout, so what we needed was to rewire the attendance figure. It was all okay though, Jets/Dolphins was a gem, and I'm not a Bills fan ( I do like the more recent Bills teams though, and might've become a fan if I grew up with these squads). This was a gutty & inspired Lions team though: I think the first game against the Vikings (winning 24-20 after being down 20-3), the 2nd Packers game the previous week (winning 21-17 outdoors), and this game defined their regular season.
That crap happened again jg9, when overtime was just about to start. My CBS station. KHOU (Houston,tx) cut away from the game to broadcast a tornado warning. And by the time it was over, the game was over.
Considering the lions made the NFC Championship had the Lions in it, and the Bills made the Super Bowl, it's crazy to think this game could've been a Super Bowl preview
On this day, 31 years ago, the 91 bills offense slipped up in foxboro, as they fell 16-13 to the hugh millen led patriots, with jim kelly throwing 4 interceptions
The 1991 Detroit Lions playoff win over Dallas got me into being a huge Detroit Lions fan! God I wish they had beaten Washington that year because no doubt about it, the Lions were the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NFL that year.
And fast forward to this afternoon and CBS affiliate KHOU's decision to cut away from the end of today's Bills/Lions game to cover a tornado warning. Why they didn't go with a split screen?
This is very similar to what happened a decade later with the 1st version of the XFL in a game between the LA Extreme & the Chicago Enforcers where the production truck went out. However that situation was much worse because it happened in the middle of the game & because the XFL was totally reliant on NBC for coverage of Saturday night games (due to Vince McMahon being absolutely determined on getting the highest possible ratings) the game was basically lost for an extended period of time in many areas of the country. NBC was forced to switch to the other game they were airing between the Orlando Rage & the SF Demons while the problem was being fixed. When the LA-Chicago game finally came back (and almost cut off the ending of SF-Orlando), it was heading towards a thrilling double OT finish. This created another major issue as the ending of this game delayed the start of Saturday Night Live which instead of starting at 11:30 PM ET started at 12:15 AM ET Sunday morning 45 minutes late. This really angered Lorne Michaels the creator & producer of SNL because he expected high ratings for that week's show because Jennifer Lopez was guest hosting. Because SNL was joined in progress, the ratings absolutely tanked for that week. For those wondering why the production truck went out in the first place, it was because someone at NBC had forgotten to fuel the generator an hour before the game. Because of all this, NBC was forced to cut off all future XFL telecasts that season on Saturday nights at 11 PM ET regardless if the game was over or not in order to keep SNL on time.
What i remember was that they sent both teams to the clubhouse while NBC was forced to switch to the other game they were airing between the Orlando Rage & the SF Demons while the problem was being fixed. As far as NBC was forced to cut off all future XFL telecasts that season on Saturday nights at 11 PM ET regardless, i believe that in one case, WMAQ in Chicago was allowed to stick with a Enforcers game into SNL and the rating was quite good for that time period.
Correct me if I'm wrong but today that would be a non starter cuz NFL network (to be dubbed over for foreign/foreign language broadcasts has a secondary feed that can be routed and used in an emergency) i remember that being done when Fox had a failure during the world series and the bigger controversy was it going so long they kicked out the international announcers (who fans liked better lol) I believe also with portable technology you in absolutely WORST CASE SCENARIO route a dub of your crew over the stadium jumbotron feed (ive seen low level bootleg college broadcasts do this)
Chicago-Detroit 1980. Dave Williams OT kick return for a game winning TD. First ever Thanksgiving OT game, first time an opening OT kickoff was returned for a TD, shortest OT period (at that time). And all that on top of a Bears 4th qtr comeback to tie the game
Snow piled up along the sideline wall. 0:54. I miss when NFL stadiums had piles of snow along the sideline and end zone walls. Now they have to remove every square inch of snow from the stadiums. Another reason why football was better back then.
wow i remember it well. the last time lions were relevant. needed the win against bills team that had the top spot in afc wrapped up in buffalo and got it to give lions a bye week and no. two seed in nfc playoffs. then lions whopped the boys two weeks later handing jimmy his only playoff loss as boys coach. and lions only playoff win in 60+ years. ahhh good times. HAPPY THANKGIVING jg9 and fans.
In Jimmy Johnson's time with the Cowboys and Dolphins, his four playoff losses were by a combined score of 155-19. His final game was a 62-7 loss to the Jaguars, which was also Dan Marino's final NFL game.
@@RichV20 The Bears still had the opportunity to win the division title the next night against the 49ers, but got blown out, giving the Lions the division title. Plus earlier that year, the Bears lost a game against the Bills. Many consider the 1991 Niners as the best ever NFL team to miss the playoffs, and the 1991 Lions team as the worst to ever make it to a conference championship game.
Lions won game in overtime. No tied games in 1991. Would not be another NFL tied game until 1997. With the Eagles and Ravens playing to a tie.. And also the Redskins and Giants on Sunday night football. . 👍 Wont see another tied game rest of the 2022 season Nor will we see one the rest of the 2020s decade. I guarantee it.
Exactly like how KHOU decided not to show the ending of the thanksgiving game between those 2 teams this year on Thanksgiving 2022. Can you make a video about that stupid management decision by KHOU CBS, Official JaguarGator9?
Cross-flexing didn't exist back then. From 2023 on, the traditional CBS-AFC and FOX-NFC designations will be deemphasized even more than they have been in recent years. For example, a Sunday afternoon Lions/Rams doesn't necessarily have to air on FOX.
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This story is the ultimate “Try unplugging it, and then plug it in again” scenario!
Good theme for today! (Lions v Bills)
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Titans didn’t show a controversial touchdown on its video system in a 2000 game against the Giants.
This game also went to show how deep those Bills teams were in the early-90's. Despite the fact that this was a meaningless game for them.
Lose a Jim Kelly? Frank Reich filled in very capably.
Lose a Thurman Thomas? Kenneth Davis filled in very capably.
Even when Bruce Smith was lost for most of that 91 season, the Bills defense might have bent, but didn't break. And for a unit that spent more time on the field than any other in the league in 91 (thanks mainly to the Bills' up-tempo offense), it could have been worse.
Needless to say, a month later, Thurman Thomas lost his helmet, and he couldn't play (at least until it was found).
That joke aside, it's hard to have a team so deep nowadays. If your quarterback goes down, your team's fortunes go down with it, too.
2 weeks later the Lions beat the Cowboys 38 to 6. That's the Lions only postseason victory in the Super Bowl era.
Plus the Lions have won only three division titles since the 1970 merger (1983, 1991, 1993).
I thought the Lions had another division title after 1993??
@@chriswoodsports Nope. Since the divisional realignment in 2002, the Lions and Browns are the only teams to not win a division title. The Jets and Raiders both won division titles in 2002, but none since.
Interesting but the Browns have a longer drought ( since 1989 )
It's Thanksgiving, I'm gonna get me a second helping of CONTEXT. HOWEVER, I'm on a diet.
In “The Game Behind the Game” Terry O’Neil talked about covering the 1983 Pan Am Games from Venezuela. The Venezuelan organizing committee promised O’Neil and CBS they would provide coverage of the opening ceremony, but changed their minds about 72 hours before the ceremony. O’Neil said he had to scramble. Among other things he did was taking and old production truck that resembled a family camping trailer and packing it with all the television equipment they needed.
Broadcast issues..... I'll never forget the 1998 NFC championship game, the OT game between the Dirty Bird Falcons and the Minnesota Vikings. The local Fox affiliate in East Central Illinois (WCCU 27) was out all day, nothing but snow on the channel, cable or antenna. I was able to see the 2nd half because a co worker had DirecTV, which was still new at that time, and since they couldn't broadcast local channels yet, they would show the national network feeds. Was wondering if you had any info on that situation
WCCU didn't air about half of the 2001 Daytona 500 (IIRC, the broadcast went out not long after the start of the race and didn't resume until not long before the multi-car crash in which Tony Stewart's car flipped) due to technical issues, and they were the de facto primary Fox affiliate for the Bears later that year because the Bears relocated to Champaign for one season while Soldier Field was rebuilt. I remember that station from when I was a kid because it was the station that would go out on the cable system anytime their microwave link from their parent station WRSP in Springfield, Illinois would malfunction for whatever reason. When DirecTV started carrying local channels for the Champaign-Springfield DMA, they carried WRSP as the sole Fox affiliate for the market, which they still do to this day.
@@heartlandauthor I moved away from the area just before the 2001 Daytona, so I didn't see that glitch. I do remember them carrying the Bears games quite a bit. I can't remember if they had any reason for it being out all damn day that championship Sunday. Sounds like they probably weren't very well managed
9:50 31 years later, and I still don't know how Barry pulled that move off. I remember watching the game on VHS, and my dad rewound it 5 times on that play alone. He was one of a kind.
It still didn’t do anything, but what a move.
I was just gonna post the same thing!!! I'm glad I'm old enough to have watched him play
That guy would embarrass defenses throughout the league.
@@saintbrownthetrojan Yeah, he actually lost yardage!
As Chris Berman stated on the "NFL Primetime" highlight for this game, " There's Bruce Smith! There's Darryl Talley! There's Barry Sanders! Unbelievable..."
Thank goodness for that unusual solution so those who were slated to watch the action from Orchard Park, N.Y. still could. That's a crazy story that I didn't know about back then.
Ahh, the '91 Lions, the ONLY Detroit Lions team to win a playoff game in my lifetime. (I'm 57 years old.)
That was an epic year for the Lions! I so wish they went to the Super Bowl that year. Why the hell Lions chose to pass versus handing it to Barry on the 1st Play in the NFC Championship was beyond stupid!
Wow this is a fantastic video! I remember this game because the Lions got the 2 seed. The Niners were playing the best football in the NFC but missed the playoffs due to tiebreakers. They buried the Bears on Monday. Back in those days the last Monday night game impacted the playoff standings. I got to see the Jets beat the Miami Dolphins to make the playoffs. Plus you did a video on that game
Hail Mary to Michael Haynes.
So did the Eagles, who finished 10-6 in spite of losing Randall Cunningham in the opening game of the year in Green Bay (some Eagles fans felt Bryce Paup, who hit Cunningham in the knee should have been suspended for the entire season for that hit, which knocked Cunningham out for the year) and at times because of Jim McMahon's elbow issues having to play with third-stringer Pat Ryan at QB.
49ers always played the MNF finale each season for some reason
Happy Thanksgiving! Very thankful for this channel (and the rest of the JG9 media empire!). These videos are definite must-watches!
There's a great DS9 quote from O'Brien about having multiple backups and I can't remember it in full, but man it applies here
Great video, JG09. I'm a Broadcasting major and love this sort of stuff.
I uploaded the Pre game show several years ago, My area in Northern NY we were probably supposed to get Bills-Lions. We got Cowboys-Falcons instead and I switched over to NBC to watch Dolphins-Jets.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING
Two other 1972 games on CBS, Redskins at Jets (week 8) and Eagles at Giants (week 11), were not shown due to the IBEW strike. Much of the 49ers-Packers game in Milwaukee (week 8) was also knocked off the air, and two others (Cowboys at Chargers week 8 and Packers at Bears week 9) had to use substitute announcers.
I watched this game live and I don't remember CBS having an issue broadcasting the game
My parents and I lived in Kenmore, NY at the time, not too far from Orchard Park. The game was a local blackout, so what we needed was to rewire the attendance figure. It was all okay though, Jets/Dolphins was a gem, and I'm not a Bills fan ( I do like the more recent Bills teams though, and might've become a fan if I grew up with these squads).
This was a gutty & inspired Lions team though: I think the first game against the Vikings (winning 24-20 after being down 20-3), the 2nd Packers game the previous week (winning 21-17 outdoors), and this game defined their regular season.
That crap happened again jg9, when overtime was just about to start. My CBS station. KHOU (Houston,tx) cut away from the game to broadcast a tornado warning. And by the time it was over, the game was over.
But if they didn't broadcast the tornado warning they could have been punished by the FCC, even going as far as to revoke their silence.
Thank you for this video Mr JaguarGator.
Considering the lions made the NFC Championship had the Lions in it, and the Bills made the Super Bowl, it's crazy to think this game could've been a Super Bowl preview
On this day, 31 years ago, the 91 bills offense slipped up in foxboro, as they fell 16-13 to the hugh millen led patriots, with jim kelly throwing 4 interceptions
Step aside, Heidi Bowl! Here comes the DOUBLE DRICK Bowl!! ⚡
The 1991 Detroit Lions playoff win over Dallas got me into being a huge Detroit Lions fan! God I wish they had beaten Washington that year because no doubt about it, the Lions were the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NFL that year.
Still hard to believe how bad the nfl division were geographically till the realignment in 2002
Ahh the old CBS graphics package with lines over the logos. I never understood why they did that. It made no sense visually
And fast forward to this afternoon and CBS affiliate KHOU's decision to cut away from the end of today's Bills/Lions game to cover a tornado warning. Why they didn't go with a split screen?
I’ve met Greg Gumbel once. We’re both graduates of Loras College in Dubuque, IA and I met him at an alumni event
I miss the second first round bye. Made things much more exciting and byes seem more attainable.
Happy Thanksgiving!
I was at this game.
So was I!
91 lions made to the nfc championship
Future video teaser at 7:54?
I’ve been thinking about doing a vid on that for a while now. Hopefully this offseason I can get around to it, because there’s a lot to break down
The Bills were quarterbacked in this game by two-time Dumb Decisions winner Frank Reich
9:45 - The "Go For Broke" solution. Or is it "Hail Mary"?
Happy Thanksgiving.
Nice videos.
I remember watching the OG xfl in 2000 they show another game while the main game had issues with power
This is very similar to what happened a decade later with the 1st version of the XFL in a game between the LA Extreme & the Chicago Enforcers where the production truck went out. However that situation was much worse because it happened in the middle of the game & because the XFL was totally reliant on NBC for coverage of Saturday night games (due to Vince McMahon being absolutely determined on getting the highest possible ratings) the game was basically lost for an extended period of time in many areas of the country. NBC was forced to switch to the other game they were airing between the Orlando Rage & the SF Demons while the problem was being fixed. When the LA-Chicago game finally came back (and almost cut off the ending of SF-Orlando), it was heading towards a thrilling double OT finish. This created another major issue as the ending of this game delayed the start of Saturday Night Live which instead of starting at 11:30 PM ET started at 12:15 AM ET Sunday morning 45 minutes late. This really angered Lorne Michaels the creator & producer of SNL because he expected high ratings for that week's show because Jennifer Lopez was guest hosting. Because SNL was joined in progress, the ratings absolutely tanked for that week. For those wondering why the production truck went out in the first place, it was because someone at NBC had forgotten to fuel the generator an hour before the game. Because of all this, NBC was forced to cut off all future XFL telecasts that season on Saturday nights at 11 PM ET regardless if the game was over or not in order to keep SNL on time.
What i remember was that they sent both teams to the clubhouse while NBC was forced to switch to the other game they were airing between the Orlando Rage & the SF Demons while the problem was being fixed. As far as NBC was forced to cut off all future XFL telecasts that season on Saturday nights at 11 PM ET regardless, i believe that in one case, WMAQ in Chicago was allowed to stick with a Enforcers game into SNL and the rating was quite good for that time period.
My guess, my theory for why last weeks bills/browns game particularly moved to Detroit because they know the bills play the lions 4 days later
That’s probably one reason, but Detroit showed it could host neutral games on short notice twice.
Well that, plus it's such a short trip for both teams
Correct me if I'm wrong but today that would be a non starter cuz NFL network (to be dubbed over for foreign/foreign language broadcasts has a secondary feed that can be routed and used in an emergency) i remember that being done when Fox had a failure during the world series and the bigger controversy was it going so long they kicked out the international announcers (who fans liked better lol)
I believe also with portable technology you in absolutely WORST CASE SCENARIO route a dub of your crew over the stadium jumbotron feed (ive seen low level bootleg college broadcasts do this)
What’s your favorite Thanksgiving game you watched? I’ll go with Green Bay-Detroit in 1986.
lions getting beat on kick return to start ot then on a pick six by LT in back to back years '81-'82.
The Phil Luckett coin toss game, for sure
Leon Lett! Oh No!
Chicago-Detroit 1980. Dave Williams OT kick return for a game winning TD. First ever Thanksgiving OT game, first time an opening OT kickoff was returned for a TD, shortest OT period (at that time). And all that on top of a Bears 4th qtr comeback to tie the game
@@leogetz3570 You cited what I think is the best Thanksgiving game moment (though I didn’t watch it live. Leo Getz it done!
First
Snow piled up along the sideline wall. 0:54. I miss when NFL stadiums had piles of snow along the sideline and end zone walls. Now they have to remove every square inch of snow from the stadiums. Another reason why football was better back then.
wow i remember it well. the last time lions were relevant. needed the win against bills team that had the top spot in afc wrapped up in buffalo and got it to give lions a bye week and no. two seed in nfc playoffs. then lions whopped the boys two weeks later handing jimmy his only playoff loss as boys coach. and lions only playoff win in 60+ years. ahhh good times. HAPPY THANKGIVING jg9 and fans.
In Jimmy Johnson's time with the Cowboys and Dolphins, his four playoff losses were by a combined score of 155-19. His final game was a 62-7 loss to the Jaguars, which was also Dan Marino's final NFL game.
@@johnwiesner9590 i yep. I remember phin ass licking but wow jimmy took some playoff ass kickings as coach.
Ditka was openly pissed at Levy that week in the press
@@RichV20 yes he was. levy rested his players and that sent 11-5 bears off to play boys in w c round.
@@RichV20 The Bears still had the opportunity to win the division title the next night against the 49ers, but got blown out, giving the Lions the division title. Plus earlier that year, the Bears lost a game against the Bills. Many consider the 1991 Niners as the best ever NFL team to miss the playoffs, and the 1991 Lions team as the worst to ever make it to a conference championship game.
Lions won game in overtime. No tied games in 1991. Would not be another NFL tied game until 1997. With the Eagles and Ravens playing to a tie.. And also the Redskins and Giants on Sunday night football. . 👍 Wont see another tied game rest of the 2022 season Nor will we see one the rest of the 2020s decade. I guarantee it.
Exactly like how KHOU decided not to show the ending of the thanksgiving game between those 2 teams this year on Thanksgiving 2022. Can you make a video about that stupid management decision by KHOU CBS, Official JaguarGator9?
That's coming in the near future for sure
you gotta be kidding me
I was at this game.
Once again a video from my favorite year ‘91. I still remember everything from that year. Even this game.
Coincidence? I think not......
Two weeks later was the Lions only playoff win over the last 64 years, a win over the Cowboys in the divisional round.
Why was this game on CBS...oh, that's right! CBS was the NFC network back then.
Cross-flexing didn't exist back then. From 2023 on, the traditional CBS-AFC and FOX-NFC designations will be deemphasized even more than they have been in recent years. For example, a Sunday afternoon Lions/Rams doesn't necessarily have to air on FOX.
It doesn’t now. What’s your point?
@@chrisp679 I thought it was Bills @ Lions at first.
@@Tubewings besides the point, if the game was there, the Lions would likely have won.
They didn’t lose a game inside all year.
I watched this game on tv in buffalo 1991 and I had no idea there was a problem. Nice job crew