First try for the Stormers by “See a belo sa nat la”. Loved him at sevens, the fastest player in the Blitzbokke ever. Glad to see him back after a tough period in his life. I hope we mention his name many times in the URC.
Re Sascha: agree. His potentially massive future contributions is NOT crashing into props and locks. But stepping them and passing. It reminds me Naas Botha who possibly was the best 10 that SA ever had. Was a 90 percent kicker in all aspects and had a serious acceleration and good passing. When he played for the Blue Bulls the coach had him EVADE contact - even tackling - and the loosies protect him. Cause he was the creator of points. And points won them competitions.
@@subbie5498 she made many bad calls today. Still can't believe that clear-out on Esterhuizen was "only a penalty"...that was a potential career ending knee injury if it had been on a less physical player...she had a shocker. Sharks weren't at their best though, and that is that.
@@aldobonaso3481JLDP didn't do it intentionally he missed the clearout on Esterhuizen because AE moved left right at the moment of contact and he over balanced and fell on the guys leg
@@bravestarr1797 I'm not here to argue, but you are 100% incorrect. Also intentions do not factor in here at all. But besides his intent, he went in with no arms, indefensible my friend. But honestly don't feel like arguing about it. You guys won, and on balance deserved it. Well done.
@@zwet4269 Even with fatigue aside, too many games + the resultant lack of focus which comes with playing too many games = more opportunities / likelihood of getting injured in the first place... it's not rocket science! 🤘😆
Teacher handed the test back to you face down huh? The more you play the higher the likelyhood of any form of injury 🤦♂️ Its basic probability… its like some one who droves every day has a higher chance of getting in a crash than someone who drives once a month…
Stormers fan. 1. We need a kicker. 2. We need better conditioning ( too many injuries) 3. We need a coach with a game plan. 4. We need better defence 5. We need a new lineout coach. ...what was good: 1. Creativity in attack. 2. Powerful scrum. 3. Good depth in a lot of positions.
Oh FFS grow up and stop whining. You have multiple kickers, injuries happen when players have a 12 month season, the coach is the same one who took the team to two finals in the last 3 years, and his team is far better qualified than you are to be making any assessments. Seriously, if you can't understand the how's and why's of what's happening on the field, you'd do better to ask instead of spewing garbage and looking doff
No amount of conditioning will help when you playing 12 months on the year… only solution to keep that schedule is more players and more rotation… sure people as usual are btching when we rotate second squads but it does help build depth… sire its never fun to lose by 30-40 but gives youngsters valuable experience and thats where you learn most when you getting your ass whooped then you come back tougher. So curious to see next few seasons the affect going through the ringer will have on the youngsters
Definitely think the Jean Luc clean out was a red. Went straight into André knee which injured him. But alas, Stormers needed that massively. But we can’t bank on 5 pointers in games, our goal kicking is diabolical. Let Manie play but let Sacha kick PLEASE! #Iamastromer
Felt sorry a bit for the ref she looked a bit flustered and was in the way of the player quite a few times and felt she was not sure enough of herself to make the difficult calls (both ways) but well done to the stormers. Hope they get a bit more experienced refs for the next game. Maybe give her a few games in the varsity cup rather before well such a high profile game
Sacha is doing what Pollard used to do, challenge forwards constantly. Pollard was injured more often than not 2017-2018 but started getting a bit smarter later on. Sacha will get there
I don’t get why Dobbo doesn’t just take the pressure of goal kicking duties off Manie and hand Sacha the tee, at least until he goes off injured in a game, which is starting to look inevitable. Sacha has demonstrated that he’s more consistent, and even if you don’t decide he needs to be a 10, not a 12 (separate discussion), having him take the kicks should ease Manie’s mind and make him even more creative as a playmaker.
@ Odd! Though I suppose that would explain it. It just seems to my mind something that should be in the purview of the head coach or director of rugby.
@ nope even at boks level Rassie has no say, the boys sort it out and it would usually be a question of seniority. Now an experienced kicker knows when he’s having a bad day and will give kicking duties to someone else… my guess since Mani is a decent kicker and at the very least experienced, if Sasha ain’t taking it most likely he doesn’t feel up to it which would make sense since he went off for injury. See one thing to understand about rugby is players have a high tolerance to pain to they won’t go off unless it’s really serious or the threshold where their performance drops is reached at which point either they will go off themselves or they’ll be replaced by the coach to limit further damage but some players just keep going. Back in the day there was a lot more of that but now days players are a bit smarter and know not to be stubborn, when they start to feel something is off or they just not performing they’ll go off cause else it affects how long it’ll take you to recover… what could be 2 weeks off can easily turn to 2 months off or worse if you keep playing. Being a kicker myself I’ve had times where I’m not sore enough to go off but idk maybe I got a bit of tweak to the knee which will affect my kicking in which case I’d give the duties to someone else. If there’s no one then fck it, I’ll just do what I can but if I know there’s someone to take over then I’ll make the call. Each team sorts it different, we use to have contests, if you wanted to kick you had to challenge the kicker (I’m still I defeated lol) but then again some kickers may be not very accurate but have lot of range so they can be an option for long range. Someone like Frans Steyn for example wasn’t necessarily the go to for conversions but if you need someone to slot it from 60m then he’s your guy 😂 kicking straight and far doesn’t require much accuracy just requires a bit boot and to not fck it up, kicking from the 5m or outline is as hard as it gets cause it’s pretty far and that angle is a btch so it really depends on how the team decides to sort themselves but at pro level I highly suspect most teams will go by seniority aka you gotta prove yourself. Sasha has proved himself and I don’t think mani is the biggest fan of kicking so I’ll assume Sasha just wasn’t feeling it. He has been struggling with injury since his games in the championship and it can be tough to recover back to full 100% physically but also get your confidence back 100%
You were kind to Warrick Galant. I thought he butchered a few try scoring opportunities , felt he hung on to the ball too long, not offloading when the man outside was a better option.
I really enjoyed the game, i was at the stadium as a neutral and it was a great show. But watching the game live is a different experience, and i didnt pick up a lot of the issues that guys seem to be having with the ref. We couldnt hear the comms between the ref and the players or tmo. Regarding Hookers yellow, i thought it was given for cynical play, it was the 2nd maul infringement in a row. I thought it would be a warning, and was a bit surprised by the yellow, but weve seen straight yellows given on the second infringement before in certain circumstances so im not convinced it has to be either penalty try or penalty only
I’m a Stormer and ask if the music detracts from the rugby during play and technically they could play the officials comms which would enlighten the crowd?
Pretty dismal rugby coming from the SA clubs at the moment. The handling errors over the last few weekends are chronic. I think it's too much rugby at the moment for our boys. I agree with below comments. Sacha at 12 is just dumb. That's not his future and Dobson is @##% that up. Good things: Deon picked up where he left off. Brilliant. Manie's gameplay is awesome...but OMG the kicking.
Ref was poor , could see both captains got very frustrated with her calls and interprutations, even some giggles from the players at the calls made. Malherbe showed Ox whos the boss and Deon keeps going what a player.
Agree felt she was a bit flustered and unsure of herself.... and she was a bit in the way of the players on several occasions. But bad calls went both ways feel like she was avoiding any difficult decisions
Some shocker of calls from the match. I couldn't understand how stopping a rolling maul illegally where the team would have scored results in a yellow card but no penalty try. I also couldn't understand that although injuries were checked it didn't result in the correct sanction. I am glad JLdP managed to score at the end. Only thought that it wasn't properly referred to in the TMO. Calls going against us, going against them. And several tries chalked off.
Injuries should impact SA team far less as their playing pool is just so big. Compared to smaller nations they have a huge advantage in this area so injuries although are bad it’s also an opportunity for other talent to show what they can do
Jordan Hendrikse seem to be on a trajectory to regular 10 for the Boks? Dependable kicker with a looong range. Good 10 and has a playing style that keeps him away from silly crashes into the fat boys...
The Sharks aggrieved when their SuperSport director who didn’t take us back to the view from behind where JLdP’s right hand was wrapped until he hit Esterhuizen’s shoulder and glancing off and tackling the leg. If you can’t clear out on the head WTF else can you, the target has to be reasonable. 🤯
I use to watch every Urc and premiership match every week... Now probably one game a week. Officiating killing the game for me... (URC) No consistency with ANY rulling not even a Knock ON.... Maybe it's just me but I'll only be waiting for international season.
Yeah URC and especially premeriership officiating is killing the game for me. Every close game in premeriership is decided by the ref and not the players these days... use to watch all the games now maybe one a week if there is a decent match up but nothing going to change and then the suits will blame it on the supporters or players again like always for their failure to act
Nah, im not having it that Moerat had helped the set piece. He's not a lineout forward. Schickerling is the one who calls the lineout. He is the new signing and suddenly the Stormers lineout had gone from one of the worst in the league to one the best (i think before this weekend it was actually the best)
Malherbe was scrumming inwards, yet the Stormers kept getting the penalty. Ref should have gone to the otherside of the scrum to see what was going on. Definitely no yellow card for Ethan. Mall splintered and he made a legal tackle. Red card for Du Preez any day of the week, plus Sunday. Anyway, to be honest, the Sharks did not deserve the penalty try last week against the Bulls. What you lose in the round abouts, you win in the swings.
One has to wonder how the on field ref and two assistants miss so much. The game gets stopped for long periods by the TV ref, for clear infringements that are clear and obvious to most viewers, but not seen by the ref and assistants in game, like the forward pass on the Sharks try and the illegal clear out by Du Plessis. If the on field refs are so reliant on the TV ref, then they're clearly not good enough. This and not scrums being reset, is the no1 cause of an inferior spectacle. Having been at the game yesterday, I saw how all momentum and intensity was lost, while the ref and assistants took their time reviewing incidents that they shouldn't have missed in the first place.
@paulredelinghuys7790 so we have to all share your opinion correct? And if we don't the you use expletives. We've seen our team drop since URC 1 fact or opinion?
Absolute game of two halves. First one sucked, second was near test level. Well, at least for intensity. The penalty against du plessis for the clearout was rediculous. After that I saw at least another 5 no-arms clear-outs in the game. Manie’s kicking is shocking, but his general game-play… damn. Julius is absolutely one for the future. Future Bok 13. Hooker is not a wing, and is another brilliant 13. Senatla being back and gaining form is brilliant. That Hendrikse try was never gonna be stopped. Galant had his best game this whole season. Stormers missed Dweba at line-out time. Sasha is a great player, but not at 12. All SA teams will only play 6 games between now and the end of the 6N (March 22nd). Three of those will be local derbies, so no traveling. I sincerely hope some players can get extended breaks. At least 2-4 weeks of no rugby. Guys need a break.
@@chris5240 good point. I would love to see an international season though. The players might be out for a period, but the season is still continuing. Do they also mentally rest? Genuinely curious.
The SA derbys have always been terribly attrrional to the national cause... Atleast it isn't springboks slogging it out over the entire curry Cup against each other like it used to be 😂
Nah, you guys deserved a red card. You are lucky this time. The ref was too scared to disallow the try and give a red. He almost ended Esterhuizen's whole career. Awful. Awful. Awful. He is lucky Esterhuizen's leg didn't lock.
@@chris5240CRAP, his arm was wrapped until he hit the shoulder! WTF else can you tackle and SuperSport didn’t show the rear view again where it was obvious.
@@chris5240You Sharkies are always so emotional.Stormers probably should have been given a penalty try..nobody in front of the ball carrier but ref says there is other players that can tackle!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I loved it of course but some of these guys should be relaxing on the beach instead of playing. They need an off season. Playing for 12 months is not going to be good for us in the long run.
Damian Willemse played 12 for two seasons predominantly and rarely got injured. Sacha's misfortune is just another reason to push the narrative, I'd say let him just play 10 and see he goes off again in the first half.
As a stormers fan, this game was fscking trash. Both teams deserved to lose by 30 points. Talk all you want about the ref, but both teams were kak and I feel for the 50k people in the stadium that paid to watch this dumpster fire of a game. Neither flyhalf can kick, 50% of both teams can't catch, some of the stupidest tackles I've seen in real time. I should have rather worked than watch this
Are the gentlemen involved in game just to nice ? If the ref was a male we would have climbed into them, personally. I.e Wayne Barnes had a shocker , Jaco Peyper is blind etc. It's difficult to ref a game when you 6m behind the players. I do not get what world rugby is trying to achieve here.
Im a big stormers fan but my goodness, what a terrible game. SO many mistakes, bad skills, and no game plan, so frustrating to watch. We need better coaches!
Horrible game of rugby. Jeez, the skills or lack thereof were appalling to see. As a Stormer, glad a heap of our players are either leaving or retiring. A massive rebuild is needed. I know a few club rugby teams, perhaps school teams that would have given both the Stormers and the Sharks a run for their money today.
@PeterGarnett007 Try been objective no? There's been no recruitment or serious development of players since we won URC 1. If you think the handling and decision making today was great then let's just agree to disagree. Manie had made a kick in 3 weeks, Herschel can't catch a ball, Gelant can't run straight. All the tries come from moments of brilliance. Nothing lasts forever my man. A new voice and energy is required at some juncture.
@ Okay, have it your way mate but believe me when I say that the current rugby calendar is way overbooked. The fact of the matter is that there were 46 players on the pitch all with burnout/exhaustion. It’s an unsustainable situation made far worse for the players when they read armchair criticism of their efforts from the very people who supposedly support them. Please, give the players a break
@PeterGarnett007 I completely agree with regards to the amount of rugby our players are playing these days. They look shattered, but some of the hands on display were atrocious. I'll throw in the officiating there too. Surely we have some talent in the western cape better than some of the stuff we see on display. Since we won it, we've seen our team continue to drop down the log. Where we were competing for top 2-4, now we praying for top 8. Next up are Leinster and the Bulls. I could see the frustration from Dobbo and his coaching staff at what they were seeing today. We seem to have no precision and struggle to build phases. This has blighted us for a while now. Alas, we both want whats best for the Stormers and the region. Next season we looking at Reinach and Siya to come back. I believe we should rather develop new players. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Dewald Duvenage playing again which is taking us back 10 years.
That most useless fly-half is still the highest point scorer in the history of the URC. His return last year took em from 13th to 5th place quickly after Sacha started the season. This time he did it again. Willemse is the only 10 that can play at 12 and complete a game for two seasons predominantly. I want em to give Sacha the 10 jersey and let him lead the Stormers as general to a URC final and win it like Libbok did..
I loved it of course but some of these guys should be relaxing on the beach instead of playing. They need an off season. Playing for 12 months is not going to be good for us in the long run.
Great sec half stormers jou lekker ding ! Really enjoyed being live at the stadium 50 + thousand ❤ summer vibes nothing better
First try for the Stormers by “See a belo sa nat la”. Loved him at sevens, the fastest player in the Blitzbokke ever. Glad to see him back after a tough period in his life. I hope we mention his name many times in the URC.
@@etiennebeukes9384 man needs to sort out his sobriety issues
Massive crowd in cape town
You love to see it
Re Sascha: agree. His potentially massive future contributions is NOT crashing into props and locks. But stepping them and passing.
It reminds me Naas Botha who possibly was the best 10 that SA ever had. Was a 90 percent kicker in all aspects and had a serious acceleration and good passing. When he played for the Blue Bulls the coach had him EVADE contact - even tackling - and the loosies protect him.
Cause he was the creator of points. And points won them competitions.
Good point 👏 Let's hope they use Sacha this way
the ref...my word. Well done Stormers though, tough match
tried her best to deny the stormers tries but we still weren't good enough
@@subbie5498 she made many bad calls today. Still can't believe that clear-out on Esterhuizen was "only a penalty"...that was a potential career ending knee injury if it had been on a less physical player...she had a shocker. Sharks weren't at their best though, and that is that.
@@aldobonaso3481JLDP didn't do it intentionally he missed the clearout on Esterhuizen because AE moved left right at the moment of contact and he over balanced and fell on the guys leg
@@aldobonaso3481 for me thats play on how else must you clean ive been cleaned like that 1000 times and i don't even think abt it
@@bravestarr1797 I'm not here to argue, but you are 100% incorrect. Also intentions do not factor in here at all. But besides his intent, he went in with no arms, indefensible my friend. But honestly don't feel like arguing about it. You guys won, and on balance deserved it. Well done.
When your players play 12 months in a year, you get lots of injuries. Who'd have thunk 🤷♂️
These aren't muscle injuries though😂😂 so it has nothing to do with fatigue
@@zwet4269 Even with fatigue aside, too many games + the resultant lack of focus which comes with playing too many games = more opportunities / likelihood of getting injured in the first place... it's not rocket science! 🤘😆
Teacher handed the test back to you face down huh? The more you play the higher the likelyhood of any form of injury 🤦♂️ Its basic probability… its like some one who droves every day has a higher chance of getting in a crash than someone who drives once a month…
@adamvanderriet9669 this makes no sense😭 a player can play one match and in that 1 match they can get croc rolled.
@zwet4269 go check the difference between possibility vs probability
It was packed that stadium.
That stadium was electric! So happy to have been there. Well done Stormers, hopefully we turn the season around like a couple of years ago 🔥
Jurenzo already a successor to AM for both Sharks and Boks
I had to go back to hear you pronounce Senatla again 😅
Crowd was sensational!!!
As an impartial viewer, it really felt like the ref was favoring the Stormers, despite the disallowed tries.
Seems like she was guessing at scrumtime.
Howzit Tim. Did not think Stormers will turn it one in the second half. But surely they did amp it up. Bok players will need a year's rest soon..
Malherbe scrummed Ox today😂😂
With help from bj Dixon, twice he became a 4th front row. Theron missed alot today.
She missed too much today@@xavierbrown4250
Whenever Dixon was the 4th front rower yes🤷
I was at the match today, it was an absolute vibe!
Stormers fan. 1. We need a kicker. 2. We need better conditioning ( too many injuries) 3. We need a coach with a game plan. 4. We need better defence 5. We need a new lineout coach. ...what was good: 1. Creativity in attack. 2. Powerful scrum. 3. Good depth in a lot of positions.
Stormers has a kicker but its like the coach enjoys making Manie look a fool and fans ripping him apart.
Oh FFS grow up and stop whining.
You have multiple kickers, injuries happen when players have a 12 month season, the coach is the same one who took the team to two finals in the last 3 years, and his team is far better qualified than you are to be making any assessments.
Seriously, if you can't understand the how's and why's of what's happening on the field, you'd do better to ask instead of spewing garbage and looking doff
No amount of conditioning will help when you playing 12 months on the year… only solution to keep that schedule is more players and more rotation… sure people as usual are btching when we rotate second squads but it does help build depth… sire its never fun to lose by 30-40 but gives youngsters valuable experience and thats where you learn most when you getting your ass whooped then you come back tougher. So curious to see next few seasons the affect going through the ringer will have on the youngsters
1:08 oh there were plenty of folk from kzn at the match gauging from the number plates I saw in and around the stadium.
Bloody immigrants don’t support local 🤷🏽♂️
Definitely think the Jean Luc clean out was a red. Went straight into André knee which injured him. But alas, Stormers needed that massively. But we can’t bank on 5 pointers in games, our goal kicking is diabolical. Let Manie play but let Sacha kick PLEASE! #Iamastromer
Kak, the clean out was fine his right arm was knocked in when he hit the shoulder. If he had to miss the head what else is there left to target 🤷🏽♂️
Felt sorry a bit for the ref she looked a bit flustered and was in the way of the player quite a few times and felt she was not sure enough of herself to make the difficult calls (both ways) but well done to the stormers.
Hope they get a bit more experienced refs for the next game. Maybe give her a few games in the varsity cup rather before well such a high profile game
Frans where scrumming in on Ox, but the Sharks were penalized
Ox wasn’t an Ox full stop. Mulherbe munched him repeatedly 😂😂😅
Pull the other one....Stormers props had the number on Ox and koch all match.
Not once, not twice... the ref had a shocker both ways.
Sacha is doing what Pollard used to do, challenge forwards constantly. Pollard was injured more often than not 2017-2018 but started getting a bit smarter later on. Sacha will get there
JLDP should have been cited for that clear out on Esterhuizen. High degree of danger, no wrap of the arms, in from the side.
Ox should have had a rest the whole December, when was the last time he had 2 weeks off?
So will all 4 SA Teams go on to finish in the Top 8 of the URC?!
Would love for that to happen - especially if they steer clear of each other in the QFs
I don’t get why Dobbo doesn’t just take the pressure of goal kicking duties off Manie and hand Sacha the tee, at least until he goes off injured in a game, which is starting to look inevitable. Sacha has demonstrated that he’s more consistent, and even if you don’t decide he needs to be a 10, not a 12 (separate discussion), having him take the kicks should ease Manie’s mind and make him even more creative as a playmaker.
Probably seniority and its not dobbo that decides, kicking duties usually is sorted amongst the players
@ Odd! Though I suppose that would explain it. It just seems to my mind something that should be in the purview of the head coach or director of rugby.
@ nope even at boks level Rassie has no say, the boys sort it out and it would usually be a question of seniority. Now an experienced kicker knows when he’s having a bad day and will give kicking duties to someone else… my guess since Mani is a decent kicker and at the very least experienced, if Sasha ain’t taking it most likely he doesn’t feel up to it which would make sense since he went off for injury. See one thing to understand about rugby is players have a high tolerance to pain to they won’t go off unless it’s really serious or the threshold where their performance drops is reached at which point either they will go off themselves or they’ll be replaced by the coach to limit further damage but some players just keep going. Back in the day there was a lot more of that but now days players are a bit smarter and know not to be stubborn, when they start to feel something is off or they just not performing they’ll go off cause else it affects how long it’ll take you to recover… what could be 2 weeks off can easily turn to 2 months off or worse if you keep playing.
Being a kicker myself I’ve had times where I’m not sore enough to go off but idk maybe I got a bit of tweak to the knee which will affect my kicking in which case I’d give the duties to someone else. If there’s no one then fck it, I’ll just do what I can but if I know there’s someone to take over then I’ll make the call. Each team sorts it different, we use to have contests, if you wanted to kick you had to challenge the kicker (I’m still I defeated lol) but then again some kickers may be not very accurate but have lot of range so they can be an option for long range. Someone like Frans Steyn for example wasn’t necessarily the go to for conversions but if you need someone to slot it from 60m then he’s your guy 😂 kicking straight and far doesn’t require much accuracy just requires a bit boot and to not fck it up, kicking from the 5m or outline is as hard as it gets cause it’s pretty far and that angle is a btch so it really depends on how the team decides to sort themselves but at pro level I highly suspect most teams will go by seniority aka you gotta prove yourself. Sasha has proved himself and I don’t think mani is the biggest fan of kicking so I’ll assume Sasha just wasn’t feeling it. He has been struggling with injury since his games in the championship and it can be tough to recover back to full 100% physically but also get your confidence back 100%
12 months is far too much game time for top players.
If we Don't look after our players we won't have a winning bok team by 2027
Libbok is such a play maker, but my goodness wish he wasn’t the goal kicker
You were kind to Warrick Galant. I thought he butchered a few try scoring opportunities , felt he hung on to the ball too long, not offloading when the man outside was a better option.
I was at the game.. great atmosphere but the stop start by the ref team was highly annoying.. rugby really needs to address this issue..
I also wondered exactly what you did about Hooker’s play on that maul: Why wasn’t it either a penalty try or “play on”? A curious moment.
I really enjoyed the game, i was at the stadium as a neutral and it was a great show. But watching the game live is a different experience, and i didnt pick up a lot of the issues that guys seem to be having with the ref. We couldnt hear the comms between the ref and the players or tmo.
Regarding Hookers yellow, i thought it was given for cynical play, it was the 2nd maul infringement in a row. I thought it would be a warning, and was a bit surprised by the yellow, but weve seen straight yellows given on the second infringement before in certain circumstances so im not convinced it has to be either penalty try or penalty only
I’m a Stormer and ask if the music detracts from the rugby during play and technically they could play the officials comms which would enlighten the crowd?
Pretty dismal rugby coming from the SA clubs at the moment. The handling errors over the last few weekends are chronic. I think it's too much rugby at the moment for our boys. I agree with below comments. Sacha at 12 is just dumb. That's not his future and Dobson is @##% that up. Good things: Deon picked up where he left off. Brilliant. Manie's gameplay is awesome...but OMG the kicking.
Ref was poor , could see both captains got very frustrated with her calls and interprutations, even some giggles from the players at the calls made. Malherbe showed Ox whos the boss and Deon keeps going what a player.
the ref was shocking.....the crowd decided for her
Agree felt she was a bit flustered and unsure of herself.... and she was a bit in the way of the players on several occasions. But bad calls went both ways feel like she was avoiding any difficult decisions
Some shocker of calls from the match. I couldn't understand how stopping a rolling maul illegally where the team would have scored results in a yellow card but no penalty try.
I also couldn't understand that although injuries were checked it didn't result in the correct sanction. I am glad JLdP managed to score at the end. Only thought that it wasn't properly referred to in the TMO. Calls going against us, going against them. And several tries chalked off.
Injuries should impact SA team far less as their playing pool is just so big.
Compared to smaller nations they have a huge advantage in this area so injuries although are bad it’s also an opportunity for other talent to show what they can do
Jordan Hendrikse seem to be on a trajectory to regular 10 for the Boks? Dependable kicker with a looong range. Good 10 and has a playing style that keeps him away from silly crashes into the fat boys...
The Sharks aggrieved when their SuperSport director who didn’t take us back to the view from behind where JLdP’s right hand was wrapped until he hit Esterhuizen’s shoulder and glancing off and tackling the leg. If you can’t clear out on the head WTF else can you, the target has to be reasonable. 🤯
Where 1 shark player was given yellow ..should have given penalty try to stormers
I use to watch every Urc and premiership match every week... Now probably one game a week. Officiating killing the game for me... (URC) No consistency with ANY rulling not even a Knock ON.... Maybe it's just me but I'll only be waiting for international season.
Yeah URC and especially premeriership officiating is killing the game for me. Every close game in premeriership is decided by the ref and not the players these days... use to watch all the games now maybe one a week if there is a decent match up but nothing going to change and then the suits will blame it on the supporters or players again like always for their failure to act
Nah, im not having it that Moerat had helped the set piece. He's not a lineout forward. Schickerling is the one who calls the lineout. He is the new signing and suddenly the Stormers lineout had gone from one of the worst in the league to one the best (i think before this weekend it was actually the best)
Malherbe was scrumming inwards, yet the Stormers kept getting the penalty. Ref should have gone to the otherside of the scrum to see what was going on. Definitely no yellow card for Ethan. Mall splintered and he made a legal tackle. Red card for Du Preez any day of the week, plus Sunday.
Anyway, to be honest, the Sharks did not deserve the penalty try last week against the Bulls. What you lose in the round abouts, you win in the swings.
One has to wonder how the on field ref and two assistants miss so much. The game gets stopped for long periods by the TV ref, for clear infringements that are clear and obvious to most viewers, but not seen by the ref and assistants in game, like the forward pass on the Sharks try and the illegal clear out by Du
Plessis.
If the on field refs are so reliant on the TV ref, then they're clearly not good enough. This and not scrums being reset, is the no1 cause of an inferior spectacle.
Having been at the game yesterday, I saw how all momentum and intensity was lost, while the ref and assistants took their time reviewing incidents that they shouldn't have missed in the first place.
Exciting game and a great review, well done Tim
have another look at the jantjies injury
the poor tackle technique? 100% his own fault that one, but I do feel bad for him, never nice to see players get injuries.
Nothing in it. Hookers arm was tucked to his body at contact.
Both teams were ultra shit, kicking was shocking, ref below standard AGAIN. Too much rugby now. So many injuries this is just worrying.
@johnsmithwinkwink1704 Finally someone who's objective. I concur.
@@rodwellchigome7567Negative AF
Negative AF. You couldn’t do better but here you are as a supporter 😳😂🤣🤣🤯
@paulredelinghuys7790 so we have to all share your opinion correct? And if we don't the you use expletives. We've seen our team drop since URC 1 fact or opinion?
Where is the Republic of Rugby?
Absolute game of two halves. First one sucked, second was near test level. Well, at least for intensity. The penalty against du plessis for the clearout was rediculous. After that I saw at least another 5 no-arms clear-outs in the game.
Manie’s kicking is shocking, but his general game-play… damn.
Julius is absolutely one for the future. Future Bok 13.
Hooker is not a wing, and is another brilliant 13.
Senatla being back and gaining form is brilliant.
That Hendrikse try was never gonna be stopped.
Galant had his best game this whole season.
Stormers missed Dweba at line-out time.
Sasha is a great player, but not at 12.
All SA teams will only play 6 games between now and the end of the 6N (March 22nd). Three of those will be local derbies, so no traveling. I sincerely hope some players can get extended breaks. At least 2-4 weeks of no rugby. Guys need a break.
They are each individually meant to have 2 months off at some point.
Lots of good points 👍🏽
@@chris5240 good point. I would love to see an international season though. The players might be out for a period, but the season is still continuing. Do they also mentally rest? Genuinely curious.
The SA derbys have always been terribly attrrional to the national cause... Atleast it isn't springboks slogging it out over the entire curry Cup against each other like it used to be 😂
Scoreline flatters the Sharks. The Stormers dominated and had a few tries disallowed
I'm really pleased that someone (you) noticed! ;-) 🥵It was stinking hot out there
Nah, you guys deserved a red card. You are lucky this time. The ref was too scared to disallow the try and give a red. He almost ended Esterhuizen's whole career. Awful. Awful. Awful. He is lucky Esterhuizen's leg didn't lock.
@@chris5240CRAP, his arm was wrapped until he hit the shoulder! WTF else can you tackle and SuperSport didn’t show the rear view again where it was obvious.
At the stadium it was obviously who had the greatest potential and where creating all the plays.
@@chris5240You Sharkies are always so emotional.Stormers probably should have been given a penalty try..nobody in front of the ball carrier but ref says there is other players that can tackle!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I loved it of course but some of these guys should be relaxing on the beach instead of playing. They need an off season. Playing for 12 months is not going to be good for us in the long run.
Sacha at 12 is so pointless now since the boks see him as our next 10. It’s a problem.
For the rest. SA teams just seem like terrible quality.
Malherbe is die baas van scrums
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Sasha should not be playing at 12! Idiot coach! Sasha is very injury prone…
He got injured at 10 as well??
Sacha is too fragile for 12
Damian Willemse played 12 for two seasons predominantly and rarely got injured. Sacha's misfortune is just another reason to push the narrative, I'd say let him just play 10 and see he goes off again in the first half.
As a stormers fan, this game was fscking trash. Both teams deserved to lose by 30 points. Talk all you want about the ref, but both teams were kak and I feel for the 50k people in the stadium that paid to watch this dumpster fire of a game. Neither flyhalf can kick, 50% of both teams can't catch, some of the stupidest tackles I've seen in real time.
I should have rather worked than watch this
Are the gentlemen involved in game just to nice ?
If the ref was a male we would have climbed into them, personally. I.e Wayne Barnes had a shocker , Jaco Peyper is blind etc.
It's difficult to ref a game when you 6m behind the players.
I do not get what world rugby is trying to achieve here.
Drop Manie
Im a big stormers fan but my goodness, what a terrible game. SO many mistakes, bad skills, and no game plan, so frustrating to watch. We need better coaches!
Well listen to the coaches and captains as they are aware and trying to address it in an attacking structure.
Horrible game of rugby. Jeez, the skills or lack thereof were appalling to see. As a Stormer, glad a heap of our players are either leaving or retiring. A massive rebuild is needed. I know a few club rugby teams, perhaps school teams that would have given both the Stormers and the Sharks a run for their money today.
In your dreams, mate! If you can play better, apply to John Dobson for a job.
@PeterGarnett007 Try been objective no? There's been no recruitment or serious development of players since we won URC 1. If you think the handling and decision making today was great then let's just agree to disagree. Manie had made a kick in 3 weeks, Herschel can't catch a ball, Gelant can't run straight. All the tries come from moments of brilliance. Nothing lasts forever my man. A new voice and energy is required at some juncture.
@ Okay, have it your way mate but believe me when I say that the current rugby calendar is way overbooked. The fact of the matter is that there were 46 players on the pitch all with burnout/exhaustion. It’s an unsustainable situation made far worse for the players when they read armchair criticism of their efforts from the very people who supposedly support them. Please, give the players a break
@PeterGarnett007 I completely agree with regards to the amount of rugby our players are playing these days. They look shattered, but some of the hands on display were atrocious. I'll throw in the officiating there too. Surely we have some talent in the western cape better than some of the stuff we see on display. Since we won it, we've seen our team continue to drop down the log. Where we were competing for top 2-4, now we praying for top 8. Next up are Leinster and the Bulls. I could see the frustration from Dobbo and his coaching staff at what they were seeing today. We seem to have no precision and struggle to build phases. This has blighted us for a while now. Alas, we both want whats best for the Stormers and the region. Next season we looking at Reinach and Siya to come back. I believe we should rather develop new players. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Dewald Duvenage playing again which is taking us back 10 years.
So Dobson playing Sascha at centre tying to end his career early? Just because they want to use that useless Skeefskop? Most useless flyhalf in URC
That most useless fly-half is still the highest point scorer in the history of the URC. His return last year took em from 13th to 5th place quickly after Sacha started the season. This time he did it again. Willemse is the only 10 that can play at 12 and complete a game for two seasons predominantly. I want em to give Sacha the 10 jersey and let him lead the Stormers as general to a URC final and win it like Libbok did..
@ jy praat kak. Skeefskop is useless even sy Pa Weet dit.
I loved it of course but some of these guys should be relaxing on the beach instead of playing. They need an off season. Playing for 12 months is not going to be good for us in the long run.